No.799
How does it feel knowing that posting here means you are LITERALLY being useful idiots for the shills? You do understand the vast majority of the moderation complaints had been actual shitposters from /int/ constantly trying to stir up drama? You understand these people are spurred on by shills in order to split the community up? It's like you idiots have never read the snowden leaks or gentleman's guide, you have no idea that you're just furthering their own goals in the name of "fair moderation", when no problem had existed in the first place, aside from inactivity in the month of december (which has clearly since been addressed)?
If you're a good poster, beware. You won't enjoy being here, it will be horribly slow, because the rest of the board won't fall for the divisive tactics.
Pic related. These are the shitposters pretending to be mods who you're letting deceive you into believing there's any real issues in moderation. Compare those posts to the average thread in
>>>/int/ , and you get your culprits. More images in next posts.
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>>804
I have to take screencaps of every ban I make like this, now. Otherwise these cunts will run to /polmeta/ and whine without providing context. I never hid that I'm a vol, the screens are clearly from post records. If you had to put up with these peoples constant whining every time you banned them, you would be taking screens to give yourself proof too.
From a volunteer who cares. I don't want you to fall for this shit. We're doing the best we can, we're not perfect, but we're always striving to improve, and always mean well. If you have a legitimate suggestion on how we can do better at that, we will listen to you provided you post in /polmeta/.
That is all I have to say here, Unsurprisingly once the /int/ raid ended, shitposting dropped to near zil (since their entire list of proxies and main IPs were range banned). There hasn't even been a report for 5 hours, which is practically a record for /pol/.
No.811
>>799>waaah shillsEvery time a stormfag whines about shills and calls someone they're arguing with a shill or a Jew, I laugh. I laugh because it doesn't stop that person from having an actual argument, it just means you can't argue with them and just resort to calling them a shill instead. "Hurr, I called you a Jew, that means I win and your arguments are invalid!"
Honestly, you guys are a blessing in disguise to any real shills, if they exist at all on 8/pol/, because your constant paranoia drives people away from your batshit insanity. Sucks to suck.
No.812
>>799>gentleman's guidewho wrote that?
some autistic sperg in a tinfoil hat?
No.816
TEH SHILLZ
TEH SHILLZ
TEH SHILLZ
ALIENZ DID SANDY HOOK
No.821
>>813
good luck shouting over shills who ban evade and spam new posts in 15 seconds.
>muh conspiracy theories!
you don't have a clue.
No.822
>>806>trusting the /pol/ volunteer to be honest about his behaviorOYYYY VEYYYYY
No.826
>>821>part of shill teamAnd how do you determine that?
No.827
>>821I think this board is data mining, some guy asked me what music I liked. He was probably an NSA shill.
No.828
>>825
/pol/ack don't like the idea of "shills" subverting the fuhrer.
No.829
>>822Well? The board log is public. The ban list is public. Soon individual volunteer names will show up next to bans on the banlist for /pol/, whenever board owner enables it.
You don't have to trust anyone. You can just watch our bans and moderating like a hawk, if you wish.
>>825I don't mind one bit if all the idiots stay here, I'm leaving a thread up to warn any good anons who haven't reached a decision yet.
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No.834
>>829Right, and I remember a month or two back seeing a bunch of bans coming from /pol/ for people being "kikes".
/pol/ is shit becuase:
1. you take this way too seriously to the point of squeezing out the fun and existing solely to bash what you consider "degenerate". Coincidentally, this is also exactly how SJW groups like SRS behave.
2. If you do want to be for serious political discussion, your board is already too biased for such to happen. A lot of /pol/ is just circlejerking about how superior the right wing is and contradictory opinions are either shitposted to death or deleted as shilling.
Honestly, /leftypol/ is less controlling than you guys are. Check them out, despite having a clear leftist stance they have more threads arguing over leftist ideology than /pol/ has posts disputing popular right wing theory.
Weird, innit?
No.835
If this thread sways even one anon away from buying into this crap, then it is worth it. Say whatever you want about me, I do what I think is best for the board, and that includes warning you against psyops. You are practically being used as a textbook example of image.
http://cryptome.org/2014/02/gchq-online-deception.pdf page 48, these are from the snowden leaks.
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>>838
None of these complaints ever state why, or specific reasons. They're just complaints for the sake of complaining, because there's no substance for actual complaints. Like I said, our board log and ban lists are public. If we started censoring opinions, even leftist ones, there would be a far worse outcry, and it would have specific proof or post IDs named with them.
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>>840
I remember the mod publicly apologized for that, and reversed the ban...
Got anything better than that?
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>>840
You know I publicly apologized for that, and reversed the ban? Mistakes happen, at least we fess up to them when it does.
No.843
>>841The retarded tinfoil stickies.
You are redditors trying to tell /pol/ users that are smarter than you what to think.
That forum spies shit is fucking embarrassing.
No.847
>>843The stickies were needed, they were being slid. Next you're going to say sliding doesn't exist either, right?
You are making an ad hominem with zero proof.
The forum spies thread was constantly requested to be put up, and for a reason. Whether you want to (or can't) admit it or not.
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>>844
The more you talk the more I'm convinced you're a toaster.
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>>850
No, just dismissing your accusation as what it is - worthless conjecture based on your own projections.
Answer my first point. Do you refuse to accept that threads get slid. Don't try to change the discussion, everyone knows this trick.
No.856
>>799>How does it feel knowing that posting here means you are LITERALLY being useful idiots for the shills?How does /pol/'s dick feel as it tickles your bladder from inside your asshole?
No.878
>>852>worthless conjecture based on your own projections.that's you though.
"muh boards are being slid by NSA shills, here's theis tinfoil rant I found on an alien conspiracy website that proves it's true"
That's fucking retarded reddit tier shit.
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>>799>>800>>801>>802>>803
>all these user histories posted for no good reasonthis could definitely backfire, why did you do this.
>>806
>mocking people who criticize your behavior as a modyou know, this
>>834 poster has a point. I think the moderation on /pol/ is going way too far right now.
We shouldn't be trying to create a walled-off garden where only /pol/-approved ideas can ever be posted. The whole point of having mods is to get rid of excessive spam so the board remains usable, nothing more. Lately I've been thinking we shouldn't be so zealous in removing everything that isn't 100% serious, either; I think humor is one of the reasons that 4chan's /pol/ (and /new/) used to be so great back in the day. Mods aren't here to enforce their beliefs on the userbase, either, and by doing so you're only going to cause the ideas you're enforcing to actually lose credibility (people will start to wonder why /pol/'s ideas aren't allowed to stand up to scrutiny on their own, and why they need to be "protected" from criticism by the moderation. You can already see that kind of backlash in how /int/ has treated /pol/ lately). Don't get me wrong, I do think a lot of /pol/'s ideas are great, but you have to let people freely argue for/against them, otherwise people aren't going to take /pol/ seriously at all.
Also, by being so paranoid about shills, you're encouraging people to have a kneejerk reaction where whenever they see an opposing idea, they just assume it's a shill. You're training people to never question their own ideas, even in the face on new evidence. This is not how /pol/ should work. It should be a free uninterrupted exchange of ideas, and moderators should be there to make sure it stays that way, not to decide which ideas are allowed to be posted or not.
pic unrelated
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>>927
I wish I knew, anon.
I found it on 8chan a couple of months ago, sorry.
No.929
>now that there's competition for a proper politics board, /pol/ mod tries desperately to justify his bullshit moderation
Okay.
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>>929Answer this thread:
>>917If this board is really fair competition then why didn't /pol/'s post rate decrease? It's clear that the posts here are coming from an external source, not /pol/ users themselves.
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>>936
It seems kinda stupid to make a new board just because of a retarded volunteer that is probably going to get removed anyway. /pol/'s moderation is excellent aside from that.
Also, you didn't get into the top 25 legitimately, faggot.
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>>941
Give me a single recent example of the mods fucking up that didn't involve the retarded volunteer.
The rules also seem to act on "ban everything I don't like" too, so you're a total hypocrite if you try to criticize /pol/'s moderation for that.
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> LITERALLY being useful idiots for the shillsBuzzword generator 2.0
Ever since that video of the russian guy it's been non-stop "useful idiots" and all the "useful idiots" are is people who happen to not agree with your socio-political beliefs. Didn't even bother to read the post.
>>811This.
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>>943
>The rules of this boardFix'd.
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>>952
>It's about fairness and having all standards for moderation out in the open. There is no rule against "shitposting" and "spam" is precisely defined.
Just because you're being specific about it that doesn't mean your rules aren't hotpocket-tier too. It's still "ban anything I don't like" except with a bit more context. /pol/'s BO wanted to make the sticky short for enough people to bother reading it. Mods and users give the definition of the consensus around what is "shitposting" or "spam" all the time on /polmeta/. You just need to ask them about it if you have any doubts.
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "SHILL"
NO GOVERNMENT HAS TIME OR RESOURCES TO MONITOR A TINY COMMUNITY OF 3000 INTERNET NAZI AUTISTS
NOBODY CARES WHAT YOU THINK, NOT EVEN THE GOVERNMENT
NOT EVEN THE JEWS
YOU'RE JUST A TINY COMMUNITY OF 3000 BASEMENT DWELLING NAZIS
YOU'RE NOT IMPORTANT
TO ANYONE
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>>956
>Sorry you're not going to convince me that banning based on "board consensus" is a good idea. Hiding the rules so that you have to ask a board volunteer for their understanding of the rules in a way that is non-binding and can be reneged is really not something I'm interested in.
This understanding seemed to be universal apart from the volunteer that was making bad decisions in his bans though. I don't know if Doorways instructs his mods into what is "shitposting", "off-topic", or "spam", but he should from now on to avoid more cases like that.
This is something that can be easily fixed. Making a new board just because of that only divides the community and makes us weaker. Not that this had any impact on /pol/'s activity so far, but it's still a foolish thing to do.
>You mean "there are actual rules so that the board does something besides spam cuck porn and spurdo"?
I didn't said the rules were bad, but they still serve the same purpose as the ones on /pol/ too. They are there to ensure a decent standard of quality of the discussions. They're no different from /pol/'s rules except for the fact that they are a bit more specific.
>There should be clear guidelines as to what a mod is and isn't allowed to do and I'm sorry you feel otherwise.
But these guidelines exist on /pol/ too, and the volunteer who has been violating them is getting a lot of shit for it.
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>>970
>It's not the same userbase, this is not /pol/.
Can I ask where all of your posts are coming from then? Are you telling people to samefag here for free?
>I don't believe the system there can be saved. If you think it can you should try to work with them to save it, nothing you can do here will change their behavior.
They listened to a lot of the suggestions I've made there. I don't see why this would be any different. Doorways is slow as fuck in resolving things like these, true, but he finds a way eventually.
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>>799tl;dr
So all this time you were scared of shills posting on your board and now that you have a place to direct them to and maintain your "quality" posting you're upset?
What do you want exactly? Maybe people started distrusting /pol/ because they're so eager to control and maintain a narrative instead of letting truth speak for itself like they used to. No matter how many shills were allegedly on the board /pol/ was in good company as far as the site was concerned. While shills might be a concern and the top 3 boards probably have them, you don't see mods on /v/ stalking users and banning anyone for suspicion.
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>>961Sweet pasta, dude, but like I explained to you earlier governments aren't the only ones who like to shill, and plenty of autistic SJWs attack this site daily. It's retarded to assume there's no possible chance of shills.
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>>811To be fair they never make any arguments, unless you consider ad hominems arguments. The kinds of posts that do get banned for shilling basically amounts to someone calling you a retard and dismissing that something is a possibility without backing it up. I don't like mod stalking either, but the site at large is misunderstanding the facts, and the fact is people getting banned for an actual disagreement is not a common occurrence.
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>>1210
That doesn't make it common. May as well post a picture of corpses and call it a holocaust while you're at it.
The thing is people act like they come to /pol/ and craft a concise and sound argument, then those dumb stormweenies lose their shit(because they can't argue) and call them a shill, and then finally they're banned.
Like it's one of those I AM SILLY comics, and even now it's nowhere near true. People did the same shit on cuckchan, and they would also do dumb shit on other boards and tell them that /pol/ was raiding them. This is why I don't hate the /pol/ mods, but I think they're going about things the wrong way, and I do think they're losing prestige with the rest of the site.
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POL IS ALWAYS RIGHT! XXXXDDDDDDD
We aren't useful idiots. It's you guys who are. The SJW's see your lunacy and use it as a tool to further their agenda. You idiots only feed them. For too god damned long you people have tried to have a stranglehold on this site. Remember how /leftypol/ and /fem/ were results of your dumb stormfag asses? I do. Shit was hilarious. The more you people try to own 8chan, the more the people on here who have views you shout and sage down hate you. So many of you are miniature kingofpols.
You want to know about your sites moderation? I called you guys out in an appropriate thread ranting about how you shits put yourself on a pedestal because you are so convinced you are right, and how you guys are reverse SJW's (not a good thing). That rant was deleted before the entire thread was.
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>>1225
>Concern trolling
>MUH PR
>Too retarded to understand that they need real enemies to blame boogeymenIronic that you're the one comparing anyone to SJWs. Faggots like you are the reason HW abandoned /meta/.
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>>1227That they
don't need enemies to blame booogeymen*
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>>1227Did I hurt your /pol/ack feelings? I don't even care about PR, I'm just speaking against your "YOU ALL ARE USEFUL IDIOTS TO THE SHILL CONSPIRACY" because it's fucking retarded and showing how all of you are the useful idiots here. And in typical pollack fashion, what you said is perfectly fine but what I said is somehow a completely different thing.
>>1231nah
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yeah this is totally acceptable
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>>1234You say /pol/ are "useful idiots", but how would that be so when our detractors need no legitimate opposition to operate? That doesn't sound so useful to me.
Do you think your "call out" was anything more than inflammatory bait? Do you think it's actually something that needs to be argued against for some reason when you were essentially just talking shit? Do you really not think that's something that at the very least should be disregarded, and that it's solely a matter of your opinion, and not your tone, or the substance of your post?
I know the moderation is shit, but stop acting like you people are innocent lambs who are merely trying to express opinions, when really you do little more than talk shit and don't bother to be the least bit constructive.
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>>1244the mod apologised for the first one
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>>1250>constructive>>1251After a whole thread of people called him a faggot
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>>1251the fact he thought it as ok in the first place means he's shit
but i have more
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>>1252
>>1253
>>>/polmeta/5050
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>>1253>bootlickers will defend this No.1258
>>1252
>constructiveYeah, I'd assume you'd be looking for some kind of improvement with your "call out", or are you just looking for arguments to satisfy a victim complex?
>After a whole thread of people called him a faggotSo you want to control what people post instead then?
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>>1258what the fuck are you talking about
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>>1258The sage guy wasn't me. I just realized that there was no getting through your mental gymnastics and gave up.
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Vol here, I haven't even posted in here since last night. Good to see real /pol/acks refusing to fall for the bullshit. Out of every justification you used for your victimization complex,
>>1253 has the only real justified complaint. The two on the right and left of center are clearly metaposts outside of /polmeta/ (Read the rules, post moderation concerns out of /polmeta/ and you break those rules, deal with it). The middle one wasn't done by me, in fact its the mod I recommended to board owner we remove. He has luckily not been on to make more shitty bans since Friday. Eventually, that issue will get resolved, whenever Board Owner is finished with his IRL work.
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And every post claiming stalking is full of shit. I check post histories on reports only, and for good reason - it helps us make sure we don't ban a regular poster for one poor post, and this is how it's been used the vast majority of the time.
If you /int/ fucks weren't constantly whining over your bans without revealing any of the context behind them, I wouldn't need to take screens of users post histories before I ban them. I need the proof of what they were banned for when they inevitably crawl to /polmeta/ to whine like the little bitches they are. And yeah, I'm mocking you two cunts. Deal with it, you deserve every little bit of it. If you're gonna act like you have every right to call me a faggot and a hotpocket for doing a good job and keeping you from shitting up the board, I can respond in kind. Any regular /pol/ack knows I'm polite and reasonable when dealing with them, on the whole, so you are the only exception where I can justify treating you like trash.
Keep samefagging your board, eventually you'll come to regret wasting your time high fiving each other. You set no visible ID's for this reason, after all.
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>>964
>they care enough to have infiltrated the /pol/ mod staff and make anyone disaffected with the current political order into a paranoid schizophrenic
This is the one /pol/ related conspiracy theory I could believe.
No.1348
Yeah, get lost /pol/, your stupid conspiracy only proves that a board like this should exist.
No.1352
also fuck IDs
That cancer was brought to 4chan by cuck moot and marked the beginning of a massive decline.
Anyone thinking IDs are a good thing on an anonymous image board is wrong.
No.1356
>shills
>shilling
Do /pol/tards even know what these words mean anymore?
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>>839Really nigga? This board
is the outcry to your shit moderation.
>our board log and ban lists are publicBut there are no public deletion logs. You'd be lying if you said you haven't deleted a lot of shit because it offended your politics or feelings.
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>actually getting this buttblasted over /int/ shitposting
Don't you realize they do it just so you autistic fucks get angry, you dense piece of shit? Your pathetic board is so easy to troll it's not even a joke, must be a side effect of taking yourselves too seriously and honestly believing there are legitimate organizations out to get you
>inb4 some autistic tinfoiler nazi calls me a shill
/int/ IS TAKING THE PISS OUT OF YOU AND YOU ARE BEING PLAYED LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
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>>1360Incorrect, deleted posts are listed in the board log, along with its post number. I've been asking Hotwheels to enable viewing the post itself through the board log, like it works in the banlist. Once that is done you will see exactly what posts are deleted.
>>1362So you admit it is in fact /int/ shitposters?
>Calling out /int/shitposting as /int/shitposting>ha ha! that means he's getting played! xDDDThat's not how logic works, anon.
No.1382
>>1356No. No, they don't.
No.1386
>>1356the shill meme has gone too far
No.1403
Every time you post on /polidicks/ a /pol/ mod burns their hotpocket.
No.1697
>>1227nice buzzwords, bro
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>>878Plebbit is where this behavior comes from. R/Conspiracy had this same fucking problem. One week it was off the wall conspiracy theories and Bilderberger. Then one week it was Ebil Juice 24/7.
Anyone questioning it was called a kike shill JIDF NSA operator.
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the autism is real
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>>847>if you don't believe that /pol/ is being infiltrated by COINTELPRO you;re a shilllel