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8c3e13 No.31[Reply]

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c2300c No.14125

>>13902

I meant to say political stance. Have any of you written a letter to your government representative(assuming you live in a democracy), signed a petition, protested?




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c42a43 No.14056[Reply]

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c42a43 No.14569

>>14432

Your brother is a cunt. Thinking back my brother would ask my mum if he could have a party, but if she wasn't here he would ask me instead, he is also as tall as me and /fit/, so he wasn't scared of me physically. Your brother has no respect and consideration for anyone.

>>14436

Could you spend the money on making one yourself?

>>14445

Glad you made it back safe lad.

>>14475

You're a bully tbh

>>14478

I did it, I just ended up playing shitty games on my phone, but then again I had nothing else to do.

>>14523

>It's annoying because I've gained all the weight I lost last year thanks to mum.

>thanks to mum

Lad you're the one choosing to eat the sweets, not your mum. Just don't eat them, so what if they get thrown away. Just becuase they're there doesn't mean you have to eat them, I have sweets in the house all the time but it's extremely rare for me to eat them.

>>14527

>If she starts shit I'll just do another Chef Ramsay on her.

Lad I want you to film this so bad.

>>14528

>It's not her fault.

>It's my fault for being so weak willed as to give into it.

Atleast you admit it lad.


c42a43 No.14570

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Woke up like an hour ago lads, ate some kippers, then made a pasty and had it with some brown sauce.

>mum ask me what day it is

>tell her idk

>she asks me again

>remember seeing a piece of paper with my mums brith date on it yesterday

>tell her it's her brithday

>tell her i only know becuase I saw that piece of paper

>she says well?

>tell her ok

>a little awkward silence

>I walk away without telling her happy birthday

I'm sorry lads some of you might not like what I did but I still resent her after what she did to me when I was younger. I won't be mean to her, but I won't be nice to her either.


f15e23 No.14571

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Where are the breakfast pictures of Susan, REEEEEEEE!

>>14520

Maybe Germany's armaments in particular were a better expenditure for the Keynsian model, since it's only a one off payment which can be recovered, unlike pensions, welfare and the NHS.

>>14523

It would be a lot easier to have control of the food that's in the house, do some sit ups and lift not so heavy weights over 15 reps, trust me a communist told me that's how you loose weight, they should be good at that.

>>14551

Alberto, why no trip?

>>14527

>>14570

I don't really understand this not having a nice mummy thing tbh lads.


c42a43 No.14572

>>14571

>I don't really understand this not having a nice mummy thing tbh lads.

Lucky you.


bcb06b No.14574

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Had a good poo yesterday. Just all came out within seconds in one big lump, well, most of it. I did some pushing after just to check that was all and some very liquidy poo dribbled out. Spent a few minutes having to clean up. But it was pretty good.




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4dadca No.11129[Reply]

Subject says it all.

/politics/ needs a diverse array of political opinions from across the spectrum.

Nazi faggots and communist faggots retreating into their hugboxes whenever they're confronted with opinions different to their own is boring and shit.

How's /politics/ going to attract more lively debate in the future?

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38f6f9 No.14507

>>14329

I'm more a traditionalist than anything else, but you are quite retarded if you think anarchism and nationalism aren't closely related. Read more books.

I'm anti-globalist and just think commune/tribe/regionalism are better than nationalism.


26ceb9 No.14510

>>11963

Thanks! I'm really just a straight anarchist, they should have a black flag.

>>14507

I agreed with everything you said.

For those who don't know about it, Troy Southgate has a site and some writings on National Anarchism, though it is similarly about groups & communities & peoples, and not so much what are called nations today.

http://www.national-anarchist.net/


dc921e No.14541

>>14507

>anarchism and nationalism are closely related

First of all, I'm a Libertarian, hence the flag. Second of all, you must be the one that is retarded friend. Anarchism means that there is no government at all, and people live by an innate code of ethics.

Nationalism is a mixture of the free-market, as well as statist policies. Anarchy is the exact opposite of statist, so how could what you said be true?


dc921e No.14542

>>14507

Also, it's inevitable that some sort of government would form in a state of "anarchy." Human beings are rational creatures, as well as cooperative creatures. The very being of human nature is cooperation, so what you are proposing (anarchy) is absurd. If oyu had argued anarcho-capitalism, you would have a point. In an anarcho-capitalist society, the very definition of capitalism means that people are all working together, through self-interest, to benefit each other. While I reject any anarchy on principle, pure anarchy is an absurd concept for what I pointed out here >>14541.


be5137 No.14573

>>14541

>>14542

For fuck sake, read what I wrote, you're talking about leftist anarchism, I'm not a leftist anarchist and hate /anarcho/. Quit reading lolbertarian litterature and start reading european classics, you really need it because you act like a living meme.




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3231fc No.14448[Reply]

Utah, Arizona, Idaho, & American Samoa are voting today.

What do you predict?

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d88737 No.14496

>>14483

Really, Cruz is going to win Utah, I think even Kasich will beat Trump there. Mormans are a weird bunch.


a7a208 No.14508

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>>14483

>>14496

You're both right.

>Mormons

Every major variant of Christianity is cucked. Even Mormonism, which has an atypically masculine vibe due to its embrace of polygamy.


b83097 No.14511

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

What do you guys think of Trump being pro-israel?


a7a208 No.14535

>>14511

Nobody honestly knows when Trump is telling the truth or not.


d88737 No.14568

>>14483

>>14496

Holy fuck was I wrong on the Democratic side..

Sanders won Idaho by 57 points with 100% reporting and Utah by 49 points with 15% reporting. Hillary won Arizona by 19 points with 79% reporting. Even though Sanders only got a couple more delegates, tonight is a huge win for Sanders. He dominated Hillary in Idaho and Utah.

I was about right on the Republican side. Trump won Arizona beating Cruz by 23 points with 79% reporting. Cruz won Utah, beating Kasich by 52 points with Trump coming in last. Kasich beat Trump by 3 points with 42% reporting.




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ba707a No.14000[Reply]

>build the perfect country

describe what it would be like, what political system would it be, what the culture and traditions are, the races of people, welfare, the history of the nation, basically anything you want in a perfect country to live in

for me,

>social democracy

>white majority with other races as minorities

>music, culinary, architecture is asian mixed with european

>free healthcare and education for all

>independent and green party are the dominant parties

>little to no spendings on military

>gay friendly but trans are to be mentally tested and treated before they are granted any operations

>abortion legality is to be decided by the respective states/cities

>all drugs legal and let natural selection do its work

>allow true free speech, even opinions that go directly against the government

>net neutrality is supported

>loose immigration policies

>offers a diverse media, with very different thoughts and opinions being shared widely

>location is pic related, north america is a perfect continent geographically

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f4faef No.14558

>>14555

Do I look like I need a safespace?


225d89 No.14559


f4faef No.14560

>>14559

Well, I don't. Got any more questions?


a6ac7c No.14563

>constitutional monarchy

>white ethnostate

>free speech

>all weapons guns legal except for WMDs., including anti-vehicle weapons.

>nationalized banking, debt-free fiat currency earmarked for public projects.

>mandatory 2 year military training for all males, after which limited benefits and 4 years of free tuition is available, public sector employees also get moderate benefits for unemployment, otherwise no welfare.

>citizenship earned through service in military or public sector if not natural citizen.

>drug trafficking punished harshly with death penalty for possession/sale of more than 10k worth of drugs, drug addiction is approached as a matter of public health instead of criminal justice and drug users are offered compulsory rehabilitation instead of jail, pot, tobacco, modafinil, and booze are legal.

>no artificial barriers of entry into the market for new firms, free market.

>Corporate welfare of any kind explicitly prohibited in the constitution.

>Government deficit/national debt of any quantity for more than 1 year is constitutional basis for impeachment, and if there is a surplus or at least a balanced budget the ruling class is given extremely lucrative commission of millions of dollars, ruling aristocrats earn 10 percent of national surplus.

>Taxation constitutionally prohibited from being more than 5 percent of GDP.

>nationalist foreign policy, if it doesn't benefit

the homeland and your countrymen it is not pursued, no foreign intervention that doesn't concern you.

>International trade is done on a barter system with direct exchange of goods, if there is comparative advantage by trading commodities with other nations it will not affect the currency and the volatility of being a world reserve currency will not be a problem, also parasitic banking cartels cannot profit from currency arbitrage.


fef36b No.14567

>>14563

While I fundamentally disagree with making drug selling or possession illegal, especially a death penalty and think that if men are required to serve the military for two years then women should be required to perform a similar public service, I like how you want incentives to push politicians/aristocrats to do the right thing regarding budgets and taxation. Incentives work.




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6ab250 No.336[Reply]

What is your opinion on white men race mixing with asian women?

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d9713b No.14417

>>14380

This kind of poster is either a paid disruptor or a brainwashed divisive. Either way we need to get rid of this kind of trash with vigilant modding. This place is not active enough to survive against such completely destructive hyperactivity


1c6a6a No.14421

>>14417

Welcome back, Rey.


8a9f0e No.14537

>>14421

Who is Rey? Is he a board volunteer or something? This guy (>>14417, >>14347, >>14334) obviously doesn't belong on an imageboard, if he is bothered by the way we post.

I pointed out that different races have different IQ's, which is a verifiable fact. We did not all evolve evenly, and it would be absurd to insist that we did. Race mixing ruins the various beautiful cultures of the world by making us all "one human race." It also lowers the overall IQ of different people. If Rey, or whoever the fuck this is, doesn't agree, tell him to argue his point. Calling me "retarded" is the very bottom of the hierarchy of argumentation: ad hominem.


a35262 No.14549

>>14537

If you haven't realized yet that you were being trolled then it's you who don't belong on imageboards tbh

>who's Rey

Google: !Ry9.FWKNDY

He used to post here, it's probably him.


3bc076 No.14566

>>14549

Oh shit, the guy who would post in italicized caps? I haven't seen him since December 2014.




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b5edd6 No.14351[Reply]

What is the most pro-freedom ideology out there? I find myself conflicted on where I should stand politically and I don't want to be a fence sitting moderate any longer.

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b95de0 No.14547

>>14539

By vehicles related regulations I meant tests that they must undergo before they released in the market. What prevents someone from creating a vehicles in his garage that will break into parts in the road and kill everyone? What prevents other countries from flooding the market with low quality vehicles?

>environment regulations

don't know if you are agreeing with me or just commenting or what.

>drug regulations

what I meant is FDA testing process. Allowing pharmaceutical companies to dump their drugs on the market is not good, it's more free, but not good

>inb4 if you abolish FDA, independent agencies will emerge

Agencies will emerge, they won't be independent. Is FDA perfect? No. Is it the least bad solution? Yes, or at least, it's better than no giving the companies direct access to the market.

Death to anarchists, lolbertarians and commies.


b95de0 No.14548

>>14547

Lots of typos so I won't even bother to fix them.


9e6b0a No.14550

Objectively it's libertarianism but it's stance on immigration isn't trendy among the alt-right these days.


f59369 No.14564

>>14550

Why do you say that? Prominent Libertarians like Ron Paul have typically advocated in favor of strong national defense.


f59369 No.14565

>>14564

and borders




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b1d7f5 No.14305[Reply]

First the simple truth for which I shall provide support:

Women truly and honestly believe anything they hear within the social sphere in which they are raised. Their method of forming a conscious model of the world relies directly on the information that is conveyed to them by speech. This contrasts with the method by which men (traditionally and historically) form their conscious model of the world, which relies on objectivity; the direct sensation of events.

From the clearly apparent dimorphism of the sexes it must be assumed that there have been consistent pressures throughout the history of humanity which have made two modes of behavior respective to the two sexes. It must then be assumed that these two modes have in turn made two forms of body and mind which complement each other to support one way of life [vitae].

It is the traditional and historical tendency of women to stay sheltered and it is the tendency of men to go venturing.

Since this truth is somewhat hidden in these days, it can be most simply proved by the differences in the composition of the bodies of men and women. Women carry more fat to provide milk for the young. Women are smaller in form to give efficiency to the effort of sustaining the young amidst the necessities of survival [if they were larger as men are they would spend too much energy sustaining themselves to guarantee the sustenance of the young].

Men have a larger form and carry more muscle to aid exploration, combat, and labor, and so they excel beyond women in these tasks.

<'evolutionary' reasoning for this divergence>

So it is that the task of watching and tending the home is the traditional and historical task of women. So it is that the task of gathering information about the land [terrain, water, plants/fungi, animals, people] is the tradition and historical task of men.

So it is that two different models of consciousness were forged respective of men and women. The model of men is made and supported primarily by the direct sensation of events [the movements of the land [terrain, water, plants/fungi, animals, people]]. It is secondarily made and supported by the sPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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b73ce1 No.14506

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>From having to watch over others constantly since the beginning of humanity, they became selfless.

I don't agree with this at all. Men are in most respects the more altruistic and generous sex, ready to take enormous risks and hardships to protect the family and the tribe. Women by contrast are very self-absorbed and obsessed with their own comfort. That has a natural basis given that they are the sex that bears children. They want as kind an environment for that as they can get.

One of the few areas where women tend to be more altruistic than men is that they are better caregivers for the very weak, feeble, and ill. This is not a surprise either given that women get a satisfaction from babies, who are essentially helpless, that is incomprehensible to most men.


b1d7f5 No.14522

>>14506

It seems like you are speaking from experience of the state of things now rather than from a historical perspective, as the statement to which you are referring was made from.

Summarily; what women are now is not what they were or are supposed to be.

It think we are in agreement here.

What you are remarking on is the result of the self-unawareness that I referenced. This is a good point for me to improve my argument. It's not just self-unawareness. It's unawareness of the people who depend on them. Selfishness.


b73ce1 No.14534

>>14522

I am speaking of women everywhere and always. Women have never been selfless relative to men. More women than children survived the sinking of the Titanic.

Also

http://theantifeminist.com/angry-harry-eleanor-of-aquitaine/


eaaf4d No.14536

>>14305

While I agree with you your post reeks of impotence and bitterness. The bottom line is that women, for the most part, go with the herd. Whatever is currently popular is what they will be drawn to, and what has been popular for quite some time is Marxism/socialism. And even though you're talking about society as a whole it feels more personal. Your only hope is to get a girl and bend her to your way of thinking. You will always be outnumbered because the media and government are against you, which makes a majority of the population against you. But there beliefs have no foundation and are easy to change you just have to have the energy, confidence and willingness to do it.

Although maybe I've read you wrong and your post wasn't personal at all


b1d7f5 No.14562

>>14534

But the proof is in the form of their bodies. They give nourishment to others from their bodies. Their form is smaller because they give form to others. They risk their lives for childbirth. They are inherently selfless. Additionally they inherently have no self like a man does, which makes them selfless in another sense. They are predominantly emotional. A man is both emotional and rational. Indeed since reason is made of emotion, an argument could be made that men are much more emotional and an easier argument could be made that men have much more complex emotion. I could provide an argument for all of this but I'm tired and I would just have to do it again tomorrow for this other thing i'm writing. But I'll post it here soon.

>>14536

I'd really like to understand where you are coming from. Can you describe more about why you think it reeks of impotence and bitterness and what you mean by thinking it's personal?




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fba045 No.13285[Reply]

As a french, I don't really know Hilary Clinton, anon, could you tell me the pros and cons about her please?

Spare me the usual bullshit like "biatch be a whore", I dont want read /pol/ non-sense, thanks.

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000000 No.13461

>>13285

you dont want to hear about traitors being traitors only their praises?


cb1e95 No.13780

>>13285

Hilary Clinton=François Hollande

Rubio/Cruz etc...= Sarkozy/Les Républicains

Donald Trump= Jean-Marie Lepen

Bernie Sanders= Jean Luc Mélanchon


0a08d7 No.13787

>>13780

>Rubio/Cruz etc...= Sarkozy/Les Républicains

I'll give you Rubio but there is no European equivalent of Cruz/tea party/evangelicals thankfully.


2372ce No.13789

>>13787

they believe in the same stuff as sarkozy but republicans and U.S. politicians as whole have to pretend they're not atheist/apatheist. It's kinda funny.


d86326 No.14557

>>13789

>they believe in the same stuff as sarkozy but republicans and U.S. politicians as whole have to pretend they're not atheist/apatheist. It's kinda funny.

You have no idea what you're talking about. John fucking Kasich is farther to the right than literally any 'right wing' politician in Europe. Even a Tea Party halfbreed like Rubio makes Le Pen look like Bernie Sanders. Cruz is nearly off the edge of the map even by US standards, in Europe he'd be totally incomprehensible to you cucks.




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899cda No.14359[Reply]

kikes do hoax terror attack at belgium airport to kick off invasion of Syria

russia gone, so gibs be dat Syrian oil.

Just as Russia withdraws from Syria, the kikes launch their war machine, kicking off with the now standard practice ( false flag \ hoax ) terror event.

With this hoax, euro governments will be poked into greenlighting military action in Syria and Ukraine.

Bah. I should have predicted this.

One question is whether Putin backed out of Syria because he knew the US and Israel where mustering an overwhelming force. Is it possible he was so naive that he didn't expect US-Israel to roll tanks in as soon as Russia left?

Anyway, 1st job here is evidence this hoax is a hoax.

chance this thread will be shitposted by shills. The kikes always dispatch a shill army to 8chan when they do a terror attack. the /pol/ has already been shitposted to hell twice to stop any discussion.

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094bd8 No.14519

>>14512

>That really doesn't make any sense. Do they send the other agencies home and say

>Don't worry about it, nobody got killed.

yes. the number of dead that pop up in the mass media is a lie.

are they saying 34 dead now? There will never be a speck of evidence that any of them died at the airport. Most of them you won't ever see photos of or names given.

Real people have facebook accounts, friends and family. Why isn't the 34 and their facebook accounts people listed in the media?

There is the odd hoax family that are put in front of the camera. They always pretend to cry. *

Because nobody gets killed at hoaxes. The emergencies agencies are instructed only to send specially trained staff. these trained staff have been on crisis actor courses and have signed secrecy agreements. They turn up, do some pretend work on pretend victims then pack up and go back to normal work and don't talk about it to media.

* ( Incidentally do you remember the murder of Milly Dowler in march 2002? That was real. And her parents gave a real press appeal. The whole media affair was later uploaded to youtube by the police. Except one thing. The parents press appeal. Why did they miss that out? Because its would have been a benchmark of reality to compare with all the fake families crying fake tears at all the hoax events )


094bd8 No.14521

>Anyway, let's say that these types of convoluted conspiracy theories are correct and those of us who criticize them are wrong. So what? Where does that get you? The news that I get right now, even from pretty mainstream sources, already gives me enough data to support my views. How much time do you want to spend attempting to gather evidence for an extreme conspiracy theory?

you really don't mind sounding like a shill do you? Its ok here I spose. There is no-one here except us. They whole board has gone back to /pol/ to join in the shitfest on the happening threads.

Searching for the truth is always worthwhile. Lies stack and combine. i.e. if I was to let this one go unchecked, then other lies could be built around it, until a large completely fictitious view of reality could be given to a lot of people.

Of course this is whats happened to the goyim. The media is crammed from the 1st page to the last page b4 the sport with lies.

You are a much poorer person if you believe the crap in the media. Goyim don't realise how deeply the huge wall of fiction that have been erected to surround their view of reality by kikes and other ruthless individuals, damages them and their families.

Therefore as a matter of principle its always worth unweaving the lies in the media. Its also a fuckton of fun as an exercise in calling bulshit and seeing the truth.


094bd8 No.14526

>>14366

compare the brussels CCTV quality to this of some downtown shithole in some 3rd world country.

http://www.bestgore.com/suicide/couple-stroll-unfazed-suicide-man-land-sidewalk-next-to-them-cctv/


d75dc3 No.14538

>>14441

Tell that OP, not me. I prefer Judaism Rediscovered as source on the Jewish question. Its a hard one to swallow though, because you need the bible and the Talmud to get all the references.

As much as I can gather from there, the Judaic elite doesn't give much a shit about Gentiles and more about a shit about control over all the Jews.

The video serves more of the purpose to point out that there is indeed something fishy with the material provided by the and to the media.


0065f8 No.14552

>IT WAS DA JUICE

Sometimes a muslim suicide bomber is just a muslim suicide bomber.




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c64da6 No.2233[Reply]

We must craft a state run by experts judging only according to competence and IQ and not by race or class. We must consolidate capital into the state and free from market chaos, but not into the egalitarian chaos of collective ownership and populism. We must remain in a centrist stance of holding unity under correct and proper hierarchy that nurtures against the ravages of the extreme left, and the extreme right. We must remain steadfast in centralizing dictatorship and re-educate the populace for a sustainable balanced and meritocratic way of life.

We must pursue the formation of this state militantly, because the old centrists who were weak and moderate and neutral were compromising and allowed themselves to be drive this way and that by the currents of the times. We must swim against these currents and forge a revolutionary centrism, bringing order out from the chaos.

Such is the way of Militant Centrism. We are not moderates.

We need to convert or purge:

>Libertarians who produce plutocracy and private monopoly

>Communists and socialists who promote the schizophrenic and destructive egalitarian idea that you can centralize all capital and then have it owned and controlled by all people everywhere

>Ethno-Nationalists who put a proxy for characteristics above the characteristics themselves and promote an irrational immoral system, while engaging in destructive racial jihad that wrecks whole continents

>Theocrats who engage in a war to impress their irrational views on society in place of good solid, grounded secular governance

>Moderates and democratic centrists who allowed these chucklefucks free reign and can't create or defend good governance

Are you with me?

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51d48c No.13534

>>2233

ITT:

OP wants to try and create a mish-mash of current U.S fascist neolib/neocon that purges low I.Qs and non-compliers to create the ultimate Orwellian American Empire, run by robotic slave Asians and headed by Akhenazis

Essentially, OP is a Rothschild


96703a No.14327

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>>2233

>capital in the hands of the state


e19094 No.14344

>>2233

Militants centralism... so you don't believe in freedom or rights? How can you keep the peace without giving your populace what it wants in most societies?


553ce6 No.14391

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b95132 No.14416

>>14391

This is a bot. This is why we need moderarion




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b9fc1e No.7081[Reply]

Anarcho-capitatlism

So what are your thoughts on anarcho-capitalism?

Pro or against?

Is it still relevant or is it too unfeasible to be taken seriously in this current-day society?

General ancap discussion

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13cd7e No.11209

>>11181

Austrian economists have a variety of answers, but I think the general consensus is that:

1) Natural monopolies are hard to tell apart from the normal market process. Every producer is a "monopolist" of his product. The real issue is monopolistic pricing.

2) Monopolistic pricing, unless created by government intervention, is a result of innovation and hard work. As such, it's temporary (constantly challenged by market forces) and it's a good thing, because innovation should be rewarded.

3) Monopolistic pricing is often the result of barriers to entry, but in most cases those barriers are created by government intervention. For instance, onerous health and safety regulations, and the patent system.

4) Anti-trust regulations harm consumers by rewarding the less efficient "sore losers" at the expense of the market leaders. They are essentially protectionist measures pushed by industrial lobbyists.

5) Predatory pricing simply doesn't work. Almost nobody does it, and those who try end up worse off.

https://mises.org/library/antitrust-reform-predatory-practices-and-competitive-process


f436ce No.11332

>>11199

>>11209

You guys have an extremely positive outlook on monopolies, in my opinion.

I feel it is quite easy for a monopoly to grow way out of control. Monopolies can actively reduce competition on many fields. Consider how an operating system like microsoft can influence nearly everything. It has taken many years for web applications to no longer be made specifically for ie6 (and there still are plenty that cannot move away). Every day people are plagued by having to use microsoft office and although some reasonable replacements exists, most likely exist because of government having stepped in in many cases (requiring an open standard for their "word" and so on, meaning microsoft had to tell some others about how docx and the like are implemented. In a world where they have no regulations they have to care about, I don't believe it would be hard for them to ruin that even more. Who would have heard of google if internet explorer blocked it near the start, to protect its own search engine. Alternative browser? We are the only browser you can find.

You can just look at ISPs in locations where google fiber arrived. Suddenly prices dropped and speeds increased dramatically. However you have to keep in mind that US ISPs have already been split due to how big of a monopoly they were, what if it was still bell? These corporations would have so much money that they can easily lock anybody else out. Most small competition to large ISPs have to rent the network from the large ISPs, in many cases, the large ISPs have had regulations made by government forcing them to do so. It is no longer feasable once one corporation has a giant network, to make a second one, because the corporation doesn't have to allow you access to their network in any way.

Once you become big, you can do things like buy up any actual competition, or pay off those that have any power whatsoever to block others. It is not like anarcho will suddenly mean there are no more people of power.

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13cd7e No.11363

>>11332

> Consider how an operating system like microsoft can influence nearly everything.

Because, for a long time, only geeks cared about the lack of alternatives and the closed formats. Again, the market reflects people's preferences. To this day, everybody loves BIll Gates, and they idolize Steve Jobs. I tell you this as an Ubuntu user.

> most likely exist because of government having stepped in in many cases

Have you considered how the government had previously "stepped in" when it favored Microsoft products for official uses? Don't you think it matters that, for a long time, MS Office was a quasi-official government standard? For instance, in public schools and universities. That must count for something!

> microsoft had to tell some others about how docx and the like are implemented

The docx standard was opened shortly after ODF became an ISO standard. Governments already have a huge impact on the market. They should have less, not more.

> Who would have heard of google if internet explorer blocked it near the start

Young people wouldn't have heard of Microsoft. The company would be long dead by now if they had been dumb enough to try something like that. Apple would have stepped in and taken over most of the PC market. The rest would go to Ubuntu.

> You can just look at ISPs in locations where google fiber arrived. Suddenly prices dropped and speeds increased dramatically.

So what's your complaint? The free market fixed it.

> what if it was still bell?

Either it would be a high-quality service, or they would be facing competitors.

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9c4610 No.14379

>>8899

>Childish, hopelessly naive nonsense

>Communist flag

That's rich, Marx boy


e66289 No.14389

>>11199

>1) A monopoly must still compete if they are not a government sponsored monopoly. If they don't improve their product constantly, competitors move in with cheap knockoffs that perform essentially the same tasks, or come up with better things than them. Carnegie didn't remain the steel master by sitting on his ass and counting his shekels. He made steel cheap and easily accessible to the average American using an economy of scale, benefiting everyone significantly (and he was altruistic in the end to boot).

>

>2) Price manipulation doesn't work in reality unless you have government force to back you up. While monopolies operate on economies of scale, they are still dependent on the success of the individual businesses. When they lower prices below a certain threshold, they lose profit. A lot of businesses, due to their small nature, can afford to close down during this time. When the monopoly goes to raise prices through the roof, small businesses tend to spring up and steal their customers, causing the monopoly to lose money a second time. This happens a few times (woth consumers switching to small businesses more and more) until eventually, the monopoly decides that the region is incapable of bringing a profit in. Simply put, monopolies can only offer cheaper prices if they can maintain cheaper prices- if they maintain cheaper prices, then they need to maintain at least a similar number of staff as the small business if not more so it's not like people are losing jobs- in fact the business owner might make more per hour being a supervisor, much in the same way a personal restaurant owner might be better off cooking for a chain. The cheaper prices ensure that people also have more buying power.

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38ff8c No.13926[Reply]

Brother is a staunch Bernie Sanders supporter. I talked with him today. I questioned him about what Bernie plans to do about the debt, what he thinks about the Federal Reserve, and whether or not Bernie is devoted to bringing all the troops home from all our overseas bases.

My brother gave shifty or at least ignorant answers to all of these things, and somehow thought it was sufficient to emphasize to me that Bernie "marched with blacks during civil rights" and "supported equality for gays before everyone." I literally don't care about such superfluous things. Our country's currency is probably already worthless and only sustainable given our massive foreign presence and bullying the rest of the world into private central banking system. We are the world's villain, and sooner or later more and more people are going to recognize this and demand that we withdraw our troops from foreign wars. At that point, other countries will declare our currency system as not credible and demand we repay our debt, which of course we cannot do. It's not like we can just make more money out of thin air from the Federal Reserve, because people won't accept it as tender.

Bernie Sanders doesn't address this. He's interested in a sort of Marxist struggle against the rich, which is great, except I'm not seeing any checks he has in place to prevent them from taking all their assets away and re-establishing themselves elsewhere. The rest of his proposals sound too utopic to be realistic: how does Bernie plan to negotiate with gridlocked congress in order to enact his FDR-like sweeping reforms of the nation? I'd be surprised if he accomplishes even a fifth of what he plans.

In Bernie Sanders I simply don't see the leader capable of remedying our present ills. I see an almost naive, unprepared idealist who doesn't have the skills to overcome partisan divisions. The fact that he doesn't seem committed, from what I have read, to bringing home all our troops, stopping unique aid to Israel, etc, just indicates to me that he, just like the other candidates, will inadvertently turn out to be George W Bush Mk. III.

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4d1014 No.13940

>>13931

Except most people with useful degrees are left leaning.


5a81a7 No.13957

>>13926

>plans to do about the debt

Not really that important, you need a currency change/collapse to solve the debt issue, deficit is solvable, but not the debt


59029c No.13964

socialists who are addicted to free shit are selfish people deep down

they are the kinds of people i remember from my college days who would always go on about "sharing", "caring" and muh greedy people but would always take your ganja or tobacco and would never have any of their own to give back


c5876d No.14330

>>13964

>Monarchism

kek


851e26 No.14348

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5de1ea No.5391[Reply]

Hello fellow >>>/pol/ iticians

We have a major problem on our hands.

The Jew has successfully tricked people into fighting race wars instead of overthrowing their governments;

into using corrupt government currencies instead of bit coin and a dozen other free alternatives.

The Jew has tricked them into accepting capitalism with all its government buying scandals and warmongering lies.

While some have accelerated a war on straight European Race men- others have decided that the biggest problem is Islam and the hordes coming from the Muslim lands.

The biggest problem is government and its many tentacles that infiltrate and corrupt everything they rake over.

From public education to zoning laws in cities.

From subsidization of major corporations to income taxes on individuals but not on corporate profits.

Even if you think government is necessary - the current governments in power are against man - against honest living. They perpetuate minor problems into bigger ones to make sure they remain relevant.

Know the real struggle here. A relatively few men with political and international business empires that have survived the centuries are strangling everyone to maintain their unnatural hierarchy. Humans are not a hive. Those who want leadership let them choose. And those who seek no guidance let them walk their own paths.

The modern governments consider all who aren't in the ruling ranks to be brainless drones. Are you a brainless drone? Do you not have a right to control your own body?

There is no new world to go to. And if we ever get off this earth while they still rule going to new worlds will not be as open as it was to go to the Americas.

Save this planet from these corrupt souls. Do not hide from criticism. You deserve everything you strive for. Fight for it. And the future generations will be so lucPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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5de1ea No.13489

>>13484

we dont want to go there


1da906 No.13736

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Hi, I'm a former /pol/ack and I approve this message.

The current crop of faggots on /pol/ seem to be having a really tough time understanding why I don't give a fuck about Trump, or any other candidate for that matter, or even voting in general.

Protip, it's basically because of what OP said in this thread. The entire system is a joke at this point. I honestly feel that the only way to save the earth at this point is to do a hard reset. Wipe the human race out as best as you can, and let the survivors live in a literal Eden, completely free, and bound only by the laws of nature, which are the only laws that are real and that truly matter.

No money, no economic slavery, no mass consumerism, no greed(or at least not at the levels we have now when our entire world, including the political machine, is fully controlled by the money that the Rothschild's central banks print.

There is no democracy in this country, or really any where. Humans are too susceptible to greed to live in a society where something like magical pieces of paper are printed by one incredibly powerful family. The person that controls the money is obviously going to control the world. That's why they created the central banks, they found out they could control the entire world through debt, so they went to work, and now we are at where we are now.

There is absolutely no possible chance that this isn't what is going on. I have spent years of my life searching for the truth. And I wasn't specifically looking for something, I use to make fun of cuckpol back even just like 5 years ago for blaming jews for shit. I thought it was all just comically absurd.

But then i started digging, and lo and behold, I ended up at the exact same conclusions as so many other people before me that chose to take the path of light.

It's the only logical explanation for what is going on, and once you accept it, shit makes sense. it starts making sense why every single president acts in basically in a completely same manner as the president before him when it comes toPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


1da906 No.13737

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>>13736

(cont)

I don't care how much of a faggot or a hippie I sound like. It's honestly how I feel. When it comes down to it, I don't hate black people, I only hate niggers, and niggers only act like niggers because of the programming they go through in their ghetto culture, which was designed by jews to cause blacks to cause even more racial tensions. It's not like their society is actually a natural way for human beings to conduct themselves. I've been locked up before, I spent 3 1/2 years in a penitentiary, and while I was there I was a tutor for people that were trying to get their GED, I actually got put into what they had to take before taking their GED, it was called the TABE test or something(they got time cuts for both, 3 months for TABE test and 6 months for GED, it's to give them incentive to do something so that the prisons can say they are rehabilitating people, they're not.

And in more than quite a few of the little niglets that came into my classroom for tutoring, quite a few of them were willing to open up to me(I guess they saw the education building as a safe space where they didn't have to act tough 24/7) and what I saw in every single one of them was a human being. Call me a kike JIDF shills or whatever, but it's the truth, and same goes for the blacks I was friends with in the Marines.

But every now and then they would start thinking that looking like they gave a fuck about getting out early or getting a GED made them look soft back up in the dorms, and then I would watch as someone started acting like a completely different human being, and I knew which was the real person, and which was the nigger that just had to keep it real.

And I'm talking about straight up Gary Indiana thugs, I'd be hanging out int he dorm or int eh weight room and see them with their shirts off and even the 18 and 19 year olds all had knife and bullet wounds. I knew dudes that had to literally push their shit out of their body by pressing on their stomachs because they had huge sections of their insides removed from GSWs. And even those dudes werePost too long. Click here to view the full text.


dca3a9 No.13748

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>>13737

I really agree with most of what you said

but saying that all that one really needs at the end is to have to "survive to be just simply surviving" is something that i think we have evolved from and we do now have the same need to fight to survive but in a different way. For example right now you have to prove yourself worth to be hired in most places and to have an PhD you have to prove you are the smartest.

the problem is what you said that the schools teach the children a life that is not encouraging them to be the best of the best. The safe spaces, and the so called free spaces for example or if you wanna go /pol/tier you can say cultural marxism that is being taught now.

while /pol/ is always exagerating there is a little bit of truth.

right now you are in a place where if you dont vote... then you shouldnt really discuss if one politician is bad or not. and if you do then what you said will happen, that they are all the same with the same lies and shit.

we have to wait until the population gets hit with a war or something to open the eyes of the people as they will only be awake with a boot on their asses.

im sry if my post was shit. Im just a lurker of the chans for so many time and I never post.

btw do you think I should post without vpn or tor or im already in somebodys list.


9eac0a No.14332

>>5391

>The Jew has tricked them into accepting capitalism

>The Jews are behind communism

Which is it, faggot? The reason that we achieved 1000 years worth of technological achievements in 100 years is because of capitalism.




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2c54b8 No.13925[Reply]

Hello /politics/ I have scoured the internet to find a place of political discussion which is welcoming to Reactionaries and I think this would do great. I don't mean the cancerous Dark Enlightenment with their pseudo-reactionary ideas. I mean pure Anti-Enlightenment and deeply religious Reactionaries. You may notice my flag is the symbol of Feudalism (btw what is that coat of arms anyway).

I am free to answer questions about my beliefs and even discuss with other Reactionaries in how we are similar or differ.

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fdafc7 No.14205

>namefag with meme political belief and obvious bait


44687c No.14215

>>14205

>meme political belief

Like anarchism?


822fed No.14220

>>14205

>anarchist

>criticizing anyone for his political beliefs

kek


cf41ee No.14233

I think to forsake the benefits of the Enlightenment is to spit on the graves all those who were killed to get it. If we keep what we gained, then they died for something.


2c54b8 No.14323

>>14233

>spit on the graves all those were killed to get it

So I spit at:

>Voltaire

>Rousseau

>Locke

>Robespierre

>Jacobins

>Napoleon

And I uphold:

>Joseph de Maistre

>Louis de Bonald

>The Catholic Church

>Faithful Peasants and Nobles

I don't really see a problem at "spitting" at those philosophes and revolutionaries




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