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c993a5 No.11183

Was Obamacare unconstitutional?

ce3677 No.11345

No, it's embarrasing that anyone even tried to claim such a thing. That doesn't mean the law isn't completely retarded. Scrapping the idea of universal coverage was one of Obama's worst mistakes. Now we have conservatives screaming that we're a socialist country, but meanwhile we have this assbackwards law in which most of the lower class is now paying more for insurance than they were before. I have a coworker who had to balance out whether or not eating the fine would be cheaper than paying for coverage that gives him jackshit nothing. My mother now pays for more expensive insurance that gives her worse coverage than before. Total farce.


2ef777 No.11360

It's not unconstitutional in the same way that mandatory car insurance is not unconstitutional.

It is absolutely underhanded, retarded, and benefits literally nobody but the insurance companies who wrote it. It's disgustingly corporatist and has almost no real merits to anybody who's not a shareholder, but it isn't unconstitutional. Almost everybody is paying more for less coverage in this system. My insurance went up by $100 a month and I still have to balance how I can afford to take my kids to the doctor.

The only good term in it is that you can't be denied due to preexisting conditions, which should have been the only term in its own bill, rather than being part of the weird octopus law that is the Affordable Healthcare Act.

We should have either an open market or a socialized healthcare system, not this barely-functional money-funnel hybrid system.

I'm a libertarian, but come on. Free market, or socialism. You can't really compromise a single system between those two. I'm good with public services being socialized and everything else being a free market, but you can't have one thing being some farce that pretends to be both. It doesn't work.


fb8a7d No.11437

>>11183

>forcing people to buy something every month or else they have to pay a tax

absolutely coercive


c241a2 No.11458

>>11183

No it wasn't

but it's a completely idiotic concept that's only there to benefit the major insurance corporations


bd8257 No.12127

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Nope.

The last paragraph from the late justice Scalia's 3rd Obamacare dissent:

"Perhaps the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

will attain the enduring status of the Social Security Act

or the Taft-Hartley Act; perhaps not. But this Court’s two

decisions on the Act will surely be remembered through

the years. The somersaults of statutory interpretation

they have performed (“penalty” means tax, “further [Medi-

caid] payments to the State” means only incremental

Medicaid payments to the State, “established by the State”

means not established by the State) will be cited by liti-

gants endlessly, to the confusion of honest jurisprudence.

And the cases will publish forever the discouraging truth

that the Supreme Court of the United States favors some

laws over others, and is prepared to do whatever it takes

to uphold and assist its favorites.

I dissent"

You should read some of his opinions/dissents, the man was a true strict constitutionalist - not some Judicial activist hack trying to legislate from a court. I used to read his dissents even before he hit the news a little while ago. They're only a few pages long and always very interesting.


bd8257 No.12136

test


bd8257 No.12161

>>12127

I meant yes, it is unconstitutional


d9ea4c No.12311

>>11183

>Was Obamacare unconstitutional?

Yes, just like with 99% of everything else the government does these days.




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