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I think 14 is a good number

>>1423

>It should be based entirely on the healthiest age a woman could beat children.

>beat

nice typo

>>1425

>You think the chick in the pic will stay married to one guy

If she doesn't seek divorce, she will whore around or ask for open marriage.

>>1428

yeah i know a couple like that, the guy is in denial, she has fucked everyone of his friends that didnt turn her down, she has hit on me a few times even though i have a girlfriend and she is married, maybe if she was hotter but she isnt worth it.

>>1431

very pathetic, did someone confront him about this and explicitly tell him his wife is a whore?

>>1432

na most of his friends fuck her and dont say anything, like i said he is in hardcore denial, he knows it, he just do ignores the truth, they have two kids also, one time we stopped by his house when she was out of town, it was morning, we were going MTB riding, on the coffee table was a gay magazine, he hide it fast and said it was a drunk thing, he's kind of a joke to a bunch of us, so he has some issues.

>>1422

How about different ages of consent for girls and boys?

>>1431

Is his name Anthony?

http://www.christianpost.com/news/is-pedophilia-next-146009/

>>1453

Romeo and Juliet laws are good. I like what my state does. It's 14, but if you're 21 or over, they have to at least be 17. Doesn't make 19 and 14 any less creepy, but it's a good law for the books I think.

>>1453

>Romeo and Juliet standard. If they're younger than 17, you can fuck up to four years younger than you without criminal prosecution.

Makes. A 14 yo girl can be good for marriage, but getting married to a 40 yo would be creepy

>>2025

*makes sense

>>2025

>getting married to a 40 yo would be creepy

I have always said when i get really old i will just get a hooker, 40 ? but 50-60 plus is nightmare ugly

15 Is fine, but both parties have to be on the same page more or less, giving a kid to an old fart is nothing but pure hedonism.

>but muh providers

The parties could have up to a 6 year gap between eachother, otherwise, as pedos are fond to say, "it's too old".

It shouldn't be just consent though, as it implies intercourse only, it should be marriage, girls should remain virgin until they get a husband, which they can do so starting at 15, otherwise you get shit like >>1425

Lowering consent in a culture that treats sex as a hobby will only create younger cumdumpsters.

>2015

>getting married

>>2066

>not passing on your genes

>not acquiring a non whore

aoc shouldnt be as high as 18

>>7686

why?

>>1417

Age of consent :

should be not symmetric about the sexs

its known that if boys of too young age fuck adult women then they are prone to wrongly get the idea of fucking their guardian. i.e. a 11 yo boy who has a relationship with an 18yo woman has an increased and significant chance of later having a sex relationship with his mum.

This is as fucked up as possible and should be avoided.

boys ought to have at least some feels of being alpha, being in control of the female he is fucking so that the " I'm fucking my guardian " feel does not enter his mind, and for this, boys should not be allowed to fuck much older women.

i.e. boys of 13-15 should not have partners age over +3 years older than them.

This is something that /pol/ has completely missed over the years. Hence a steady trickle of motherfuckers are brought into existence, even within red-pilled communities.

Of course, a large part of it is the personality of the couple. If the younger boy is alpha and arrogant, while the older woman is submissive, then that should be sufficient to stop the 'fucking my guardian' feel. So its a grey area. But the potential for mental damage is high, so I'd support a law for it or at least guidelines and awareness campaigns.

>>7717

Of course the feel of ' I'm having sex with my guardian ' is not a problem for the female. Because this is the natural way. Women are attracted to men who are better guardians.

This is the core reason why AoC laws should not be symmetric about the sexes.

since females don't have the danger of the motherfucker psychological effect that boys can have, they can be more free to have older partners.

How exactly is a 13yo girl psychologically damaged if she has consensual sex with an 18yo male?

I don't think there is any damage. Her interests will just shift off learning \ school and towards sex.

Bad?

I don't think so.

1.) Thinking about sex is something that is very consuming, and sooner or later, its going to happen to every young person. At some point a large amount of their time is going to shift away from other activities and towards sex.

2.) Nearly all the time of thinking about sex is before you get it. Once you've had it, you lose interest. By having more sex, you can better focus on other stuff i.e. the rest of life becomes visible again.

Does this fit in with your experiences?

2b.) The mass media is obsessed with the trauma of sex. But in my experience and observations of others, its not having sex that does most mental damage. Depression, low self esteem , anger, and general negative feels and behaviours result in long periods of no sex. Hence that why fat ugly lesbians are the ones the kikes so often choose to run all the destructive institutions in western society - because they have the most hate due to least sex ( or at least, least sex with attractive people ) and blame society for it.

>>7717

>>7718

Great point! I never thought about this way.

>This is something that /pol/ has completely missed over the years. Hence a steady trickle of motherfuckers are brought into existence, even within red-pilled communities.

Did you read about it or is it your own idea?

>>7720

*about it

>>7720

Michele Elliot of KidScape charity ( one of the few true red pilled woman on social issues ) talked briefly about in an interview in the monwomanmyth series of vids. Recorded about 10 years ago.

I trust her + its makes sense to me, so that was good enough for me.

Wouldn't be suprised if kidscape has since been taken over by marxists, child abuses and LGBTs by now.

>>7723

Why does there need to be laws about this kind of thing telling us what we can and cannot do with our lives? If two families consent to their children being married, then let it be the case. Of course, those two people are a woman and a man . If you're a family and you want your 9 year old daughter to marry a 22 year old boy, and the other family agrees to it, and go ahead. There shouldn't be any arbitrary laws that decide when you can give consent. It's nonsense.

>>7720

>>7723

she mentions it at the end of this vid. If you haven't seen mwm vids you should watch all of them its top tier red-pills

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7xUk4_sDF0

>>7725

well the only issue i see is the personal choice of the 9yo female. Most kids would not have finished being kids at that age.

There is a danger she would be pressured into doing something she didn't want to do.

She would not want marriage with a fat ugly smelly 22 yo neck beard.

Not saying that a marriage between a 22 and a 9yo couldn't work - it has done ( as that fav example of poll shows ), but care should be taken to be sure that the 9yo's childhood isn't interrupted.

> " 22 yo boy "

Have you got some agenda here? why are you using an erroneous term?

> There shouldn't be any arbitrary laws that decide when you can give consent. It's nonsense.

>arbitrary

yes, the laws should be based on evidence that its damaging to the people involved and society in general.

>>7725

>If you're a family and you want your 9 year old daughter to marry a 22 year old boy, and the other family agrees to it, and go ahead. There shouldn't be any arbitrary laws that decide when you can give consent. It's nonsense.

Why stop at 9? Why not make it 5? It's simple. The girl's mind is not mature enough to make a decision, and you would also rip her of her childhood. Just because their family agrees, it doesn't mean it's ok. Some families abuse their children (sexually and non sexually). Does it make it ok? Some poor families (especially in the middle east) sell their children to rich old men. The society, represented by the gov, has the duty to protect children from this. If you were born to a sick father, you would want that too.

>>7736

I'm a Brit. Traditionally here AoC was 12 for most of our history. When the kikes gained control it was bumped up to 16 for with an adult for both male and female. But AoC is 13 for with someone age 13 to 17.

due to an event at our school I'd drop the AoC for kids with other kids from 13 to 12.

There was a highly sexed 12yo girl at our school, it was a school that was >99.5% white and was in a decent area. She wanted to have sex. None of the white boys would have sex with her, because they'd been brought up to not have sex with 12yo girls. So she found someone who didn't have such standards. A nigger. At 13 she gave birth to a nigglet.

Our AoC laws had turned a 12yo girl into a coalburner, just because she had matured a year too fast.

Also I'd consider dropping AoC with an adult from 16 to 15yo. At least for girls. I think psychologically its normal for 15yo girls to have sex with young adults like up to 30.

there should be a rule that boys shouldn't have sex with a female more than 3 years older than them. Applied up to and including 17yo. Its not natural. Males should acquire females by being alpha. It would not be possible for a boy to acquire females much older than him in the wild.

The problem with imposing blanket laws is that individuals vary a lot.

One of the 1st goals of marxism is to shift the justice \ legal system of a target society away from a moral case by case judgement and towards a codified law system. And today thats how everyone thinks of justice - as a set of laws.

Marriage age is difficult to decide. Yes child marriages can work. But in countries where its legal, many kids are married against their will. They don't have the power to resist the will of their parents at young age.

So I'd actually keep minimum marriage ages high, like what they are at the moment. 16.

>marriage

Keep it 18, serious things like this are not made for children. Unless you want the divorce numbers rise even more.

>consent

The problem with the law is that different people are sexually active at different ages, maturity varies from one person to another. The key would be age of consent, let's say, 14-16 and have an administrative procedure that can authorize a child to have consenting sex with adults if they manage to pass a few tests which would measure if their suitability to make a choice which regards their body on their own. Also, children must have basic Sex Ed in order to prevent manipulation rape and must be encouraged to report to the police/teachers/etc in case of rape.

The key to this question is that rape is horrendous at any age but should laws limit children's natural development? I think not, sexuality is a part of human nature and we cannot simply ignore it. This question is much more complicated than that, we have to find therefore a com

>>7882

This question is much more complicated than that, we have to find therefore a complex solution.

Sent accidentally without the end of the last sentence.

>>7882

> Be my brother at school

> Class on first aid

> what to do if 1st on scene and victim is unconscious

> mouth to mouth resuscitation

> male teacher asks for volunteer

> boy volunteers

> male teacher does mouth to mouth on boy, who is lying on front desk in front of class

> boy gets massive boner that shows thru trousers

> maximum embarrassed giggles.jpg

Irrelevant, for all current moral standards are created by bourgeois hegemony, thus all values of society are de-facto expressions of ideology.

>>8077

> I abhor the idea of grown men marrying children

This can be prevented by setting a max age different for female under 18.

For example, if the max age different is 4, a 13 yo female can marry at most a 17 yo male.

>>8077

>, I abhor the idea of reducing it

likely then u are incapable of being rational about it since you are admitting to losing your head over it, no better than an animal, such as a nigger.

but lets pretend u are a human. at 16, females are fully mature biologically. They will likely take more than a decade to get their heads straight, if at all. 18 is just a line in the sand for them. There no reason why a woman would be more capable of raising a family at 18 than 16, other than 2 more years to learn about family. In other words, a 14-16yo girl taught family care for 3 years would be better able to raise a family than a 18yo who has spent her teenage years listening to justine bieber and lady gaga.

yet according to your conclusion based on emotional tantrum, its the deranged 18yo that is the better wife.

Why not let a mature man do the out-of-home thinking for both of them while she does the dishes?

>>8130

>They will likely take more than a decade to get their heads straight, if at all

True. Girls peak so early.

>>8123

I think this would be the way to go about it without getting too extreme.

>>8123

*difference

>>1417

In a country where intelligence, morality and personal responsibility were taught, age of consent laws would not be needed and it would be between families to settle disputes of sex (not rape, which would be deal with by the police) between people (who are currently considered) underage.

Arranged marriages would be fine as long as the people married were intelligent enough to understand what they were getting into and were doing it of their own free will (and the family wasn't doing it for nefarious reasons of course).

abandon marriage, at least for a period of a year, preferably more.

Too many differing opinions in too many differing countries

Some people do it for cash, just make a "financial pairing"

If marriage is for love between two things, even if one sided, let fags and weeaboos marry things

aoc should be 12-14 based on parental consent and arranged marriage and 14+ alone

Age of consent laws, like all laws, are in place for one reason only: to support economic efficiency.

Since the industrial revolution, women are wanted as workers first and as mothers second. Age of consent laws ensure that the vast majority of women go through schooling and absorb the messages of the media before they become wives to men who can support them.

The main goals of such policy are 1) to make women into androgynous workers and 2) to induce women to raise their offspring to be more inclined toward becoming the model of the efficient worker and 3) to suppress the ability of the common class to raise natural, strong families that could compete with the upper classes.

Do I need to explain further?

There should be no Age of Consent laws.

>>7865

Why isn't the man blonde?

>>13509

many brown haired people were blond as children

>>13503

>Do I need to explain further?

yes please

>>13503

this tbh.

>>13503

I think this is a pretty solid explanation.

>>8123

not a bad idea