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c79397 No.2343
So tell me /politcs/ why do you need guns so bad. I live in Australia we had gun control for a while and it's been fine for nearly 20 years.
5d0d5f No.2348
why do you consider Australians dying a bad thing?
sounds like you need more guns mateys.
5a52e1 No.2349
>>2343
I don't believe guns are necessary. I live in Seattle and my state recently passed stricter gun laws. The government hasn't tried to kill us and we haven't become a dictatorship. Honestly most of the muh guns come from /k/
a052bc No.2350
Because were (USA) decedents of revolutionary warriors, nice people but fuck with us and we take you out, i carry a glock 26 all the time, have a backpack that i carry an ar pistol in if i go into nigger parts of town, or when i feel like it, its also my house and truck gun, never had to use them but i like being ready.
I can be found in /k/ and /fit/ also
c79397 No.2352
>>2348
I'm good with my people not trying to kill each other.
a052bc No.2353
>>2349
>I live in Seattle and my state recently passed stricter gun laws
not really, it only matters when you buy a gun, you can open carry in WA without a permit
02e5d5 No.2354
Gang violence contributes a lot to America's gun homicide rate. Get rid of that and I imagine it'd go below Australia.
And aussies are too focused on fending off the terrifying fauna to be concerned with killing each other.
ad00ed No.2355
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x35gma5
Aussie comedian on gun control. Lots of misinformation but funny as fuck. Kike comedians really fucked up with our perception of what's funny.
037348 No.2356
>>2353
Open carry is lawful in Washington without any permit. Open carry of aloadedhandgun in a vehicle is legal only with a concealed pistol license. Open carry of a loaded long gun in a vehicle is illegal, regardless of CPL possessio
ad00ed No.2357
>>2350
>pic
looks bad ass. Does your family know how to use weapons too?
d9bd7c No.2358
a052bc No.2359
>>2358
>You sound paranoid
I also wear a seat belt, is that paranoid, have insurance on my home and car too.,
78cb08 No.2361
defense against tyrants is a right. self defense is a right. ergo, gun control is an infringement of human rights.
also, england has extremely strict gun control and higher violent crime rates than south africa
def72f No.2362
>>2359
>Safety precaution
Unless you live in a warzone or a dangerous neighborhood there shouldn't be a reason to care such heat
a052bc No.2363
>>2357
>Does your family know how to use weapons too?
yes, all gun nuts, we all shoot skeet and trap for fun, have around 25 guns in the house, insured for $40,000
53a512 No.2364
>>2343
>I live in Australia we had gun control
You also have a 1984-tier police state. Granted, we're heading that way too, but the key difference is that we'll be able to do something about it.
ad00ed No.2365
>>2363
Jealous, the only time I was allowed to use one is on the army, ak-47, and we had to lay down while using it to prevent accidents (i.e. so faggot officers feel safe). So fucking gay.
a052bc No.2372
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>>2365
You would love 3 gun comps, i have done a few, fun as hell and good practice
c79397 No.2374
>>2364
That's not true. Believe or not there is more to freedom than guns
fb4bbe No.2375
>>2361
I get people that like guns but blantly lying on a statistic is embrassing
c79397 No.2377
>>2375
Well Guntards aren't now for intelligence.
c79397 No.2378
fecee1 No.2379
>>2343
I noticed that your graph says gun deaths. What about stabbing deaths? Last I heard, the stabbing rate in Australia went through the roof after those gun control laws were passed.
a052bc No.2380
>>2375
>I get people that like guns but blantly lying on a statistic is embrassing
Even worse are people that post ill informed lib drivel, england keeps track of crimes in a retarded manner, murder for one is swept under the rug because of their methods of not counting murders as such, often they rank murder as just a death so as to keep them off the books.
Over all thefts are crazy high in the whole EU
Belgium is considered rather safe when it comes to its low number of violent crimes, it is one of the worst in the world when it comes to theft. According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime’s most recent findings (from 2012), Belgium reported 191,126 robberies that year, a rate of 1,728.1 per 100,000 people
the EU is full of pick pockets, in large citys you cant carry your wallet in your pants, they would be beaten or killed in the US if it was that big of a proble.
c0325a No.2386
>>2374
Of course there's more to freedom than guns.
Like being able to say what the fuck you want on the internet.
Which is a liberty Shitpostland lacks because of their lack of ability to stand against their own government.
Haven't you noticed?
All of the west is shit, but it's in degrees.
Oh sure, most Europeans are more "cultured" than us, but they get robbed, raped, and stabbed far more often than the most lenient of gun states, and if anybody points out how it's the fault of mass immigration, then it's straight to PC excommunication (and possible prison time for being a radical racist) for them.
Sure, Aussies get to openly shitpost on American boards, but they don't get to openly pirate anything, or say/do anything bad against Muslims for fear of social butthurt from their own commie PC collective.
For fucks sake, you have Halal KFCs full of employees that flip their shit if you ask for anything remotely contradictory to the typical Islamic diet.
Hell, Canada is far better than your shit wasteland continent will ever be, despite how cucked they are by chinks and other assorted immigrants.
Not saying America will last forever btw (we have too many nigs and spics to last much longer), but I am saying the fact our government actually has some sort of fear of the firearm owning population is what keeps us from being completely and totally censored in every aspect of life.
If even a small fraction of gun owners in America stood up to federal faggotry everything would turn into a glorious clusterfuck where nobody wins, which leaves our land ripe for China and Russia to swoop in and buttfuck everything.
c0325a No.2388
>>2365
Come to America before retards who tell everyone "guns aren't necessary" pollute everyday life.
Being able to go target practicing or hunting without hundreds of euros worth of charges is fun as shit.
Just be sure to avoid California. New York, and New Jersey entirely if you ever actually come here.
a052bc No.2390
The US government loves to play war games, it loses in allmost of them, they would have to damn near nuke us to win.
Pic is Red Game outcome
Russia knows Texas is the closest to going independent, this summer they sent the Russian navy off the coast of Texas for war games in support of Texas http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1881.htm
efa380 No.2392
>>2343
I don't feel like pointing out that "gun deaths" or "gun crimes" arent the only dearths or crimes that matter since you're probably too consumed by sensationalist media to care, so here.
761cd0 No.2393
>>2390
>Russia openly supports one of the most gun loving states in clapistan
It's actually starting to look like fucking Russia, our longtime enemy, is actually greatest ally in comparison to the rest of NATO.
This is fucked beyond measure.
Fuck anti-gun useful cucks
I hate you all and I hope you die under a truly oppressive totalitarian state where thought crimes carry a death sentence because you're all too cucked to ever defend yourselves at all.
a052bc No.2398
>>2393
Texas is crazy strong, has its own power grid that can be cut from the US and still work, no other start can do that, has its own oil and refineries, has one of the biggest ports, can grow its own food, has forests for wood, is a high tech hub with various fabs for chips, like intel, Samsung, plus other smaller fabs,
The Texas Medical Center is the largest medical center in the world, it has 54 medicine-related institutions.
If Texas was a country it would be ranked 13th by GDP behind Canada and austraila
3f7d10 No.2399
>>2343
> why do you need guns so bad
Niggers.
I've had my house broken into four times. I don't live in a bad neighborhood, but its becoming bad because we are being targeted.
Australia doesn't have America's problems.
6bc664 No.2404
>Gun Deaths
What about total homicides?
a052bc No.2405
>>2404
>What about total homicides?
Doctors kill 200,000 people a year by mistakes, more than guns plus cars plus about everything else, Ban Doctors....
fbe4c0 No.2412
>>2398
>Texas Fags cry muh secession
Well first most people in Texas want to be in the United States. Secessionist are a minority and when most people talk about secession they aren't serious.
Secondly secession of a US State is illegal thus if Texas decided to secessed the United States won't allow it.
Thirdly when Texas was independent it had lots of debt and a devalued currency thus Annexation by the United States was favorable. Texas won't be the economic powerhouse as a independent country.
So if people genuinely believe that Texas will be an independent country in the future they are living a fantasy.
a052bc No.2413
>>2412
Things would have to get very bad, only a fool would think one day Texans wake just up and want succession, plus Russia has Texas back if you read the thread.
Come on name one state that is in a better off to do so, can you debate a point.
ee396f No.2421
>>2362
It's his right to carry. Your opinions on how he should manage his personal safety are irrelevant to you. If he isn't abusing the laws and it makes him feel safer/he enjoys it, it shouldn't bother you.
>Only obtain guns once you're in a war zone.
Well you better hope in such an event, that they are on your side and allow you to get guns. Not everyone wants to take that chance.
fbe4c0 No.2422
>>2413
Like I said most don't support secession. Unless it gets really bad in US which it hasn't. About Russia having Texas "back" at best you can expect weapons and that's all the support you will get. Texas will not secessed not matter how many Texan Fags say it will.
a052bc No.2427
>>2422
If shit gets bad it would be the 1st state, texas hates DC, texas gives way more money to DC than it get back, more Mil fags are from Texas than any state.
You cant name one start in a better position to do so which was my point that you never Addressed
To sum up your whole debate/point = it wont happen
916447 No.2430
>>2343
Fuck off kike. I am a true Australian and I love my guns. If Mohammed ever tries to break into my house and rape my gf he's getting a 12 gauge in the face.
Tell Tori Johnson and Katrina Dawson how great it is that only muzzies have guns
fe6e1b No.2438
>>2343
You draw a line of best fit on that graph, and it's sloping down before the gun ban. You can't look at one slope within the overall trend like that.
That said, you should probably post the homicide rate not gun deaths.
Either way, it's almost pointless arguing about, since I want my guns regardless of how many people who aren't me misuse them. I will not be responsible for them, so I will not be disarmed because you want "safety". I consider background deaths a price worth paying so that the people remain armed.
fbe4c0 No.2446
>>2427
Yep there it is that bullshit it going to happen fantasy. Texas will not I repeat will not secessed. The fact that you genuinely believe that Texas secession will happen in the near future is retarded.
c79397 No.2447
>>2421
I can't tell him what to do your right, but that doesn't mean I can't question his judgement.
e39f84 No.2448
>>2343
Are you triggered yet?
pun intended
5b1a89 No.2449
>>2343
So. You feel slightly weird about our freedom with guns and our trying to justify becoming a forcefully unarmed nation and that its OK to yourself. We have twice as many gun deaths per 100,000 people then you eh Australia? I guess that's supposed to make me feel bad. Discounting that a ton of those are black people and hispanics, gangs, and I'm white. I happen to think FREEDOM is about a little bit more then having a slightly lower gun death rate as a nation. I'll take the risk. I'm not in a gang and don't do illegal drugs. I can hunt. I can kill a crazy killer or drug addled idiot that tries to break into my house or hurt my family. Or if the government in D.C ever goes full retard and my state government secedes I can stand up to tyranny. For muh freedum. All good things a Freeman should be able to do. Rights enshrined in the Constitution and something I will forever defend. Just because your country has given up one of your most important freedoms for a bit of safety (but not safety from tyranny) doesn't mean you should try to export your degeneracy to us. Liberty dear gentleman. Is more important.
c79397 No.2453
>>2448
Not really. I don't actually hate guns. I just think that United States should have more regulations like most developed countries do.
fbe4c0 No.2454
>>2449
The United States is becoming non-white and these minorities are the future. I guess it will take a non-white majority to finally BTFO gunfags.
e39f84 No.2456
>>2453
Status: fully triggered
Stay butt mad ausfag. Your country sucks, mine is great.
aa33bb No.2462
/leftypol/ here, the proletariat must be armed.
c79397 No.2465
>>2456
Eh if you say so. I'm perfectly happy in my country
e39f84 No.2469
>>2465
>Sour grapes, the post
a052bc No.2471
>>2454
>I guess it will take a non-white majority to finally BTFO gunfags
Give me liberty or give me death
I will die before they take my guns, im dead serious
a77dcf No.2472
i don't see the problem with the populace owning guns for self defense but gunfags are just so fucking autistic with their muh freedum babble and their holier than thou attitude
seriously, most insufferable bunch i've seen around
fbe4c0 No.2473
>>2471
Most of those are already dead
5b1a89 No.2474
>>2472
FROM OUR COLD DEAD HANDS!
c79397 No.2475
>>2469
Because I have the audacity to support regulations? Seriously what's so bad about having regulations in place to prevent retards from getting guns.
fbe4c0 No.2476
>>2474
Since he is already dead it should be easy lol.
5b1a89 No.2477
>>2475
1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN IF YOU TRY TO TAKE OUR FIREARMS!!!
a052bc No.2479
>>2473
WTF are you talking about faggot, im armed to the teeth and so are most of my friends and most of the people in my subdivision, we have millions of deer hunters who are basically snipers, their are 160 million white people here, i dont know one white person who doesn't own a gun.
a052bc No.2480
>>2473
WTF are you talking about faggot, im armed to the teeth and so are most of my friends and most of the people in my subdivision, we have millions of deer hunters who are basically snipers, there are 160 million white people here, i dont know one white person who doesn't own a gun.
5b1a89 No.2483
>>2479
Only white liberals don't and even a lot of regular white Democrats do have some. A lot of American gommies on leftypol also advocate gun ownership but they are a different burd then your average progressive. Also OP if you haven't noticed your home country Britain is becoming a bit of an Orwellian thought crime police state. You think they would have got this far if almost everyone or at least a lot of people in Britain valued gun ownership.
5b1a89 No.2485
>>2483
City people really are the ones that don't have guns in general. Outside the cities most people have something. In all conservative states even in the cities guns are easy to buy if you want them. Which is most of the country geographically. It's just some of the antigun cities have a large population.
f3746a No.2489
Why are all non-Americans so fucking retarded about gun rights?
a8d956 No.2494
Reminder that we communist suppport gun rights.
Dont confuse us with liberals.
5f213d No.2500
No one is against guns. Every gun control freak just wants a special class of people only to have guns.
If you say that only the government can have guns, then fine, I redefine myself as government and if you don't agree you, you can come take my guns off me.
965f64 No.2501
We need guns cause we have niggers, simple as that. As long as there is niggers there needs to be guns
c3360f No.2531
>>2343
You also get shived in the face a lot for one country.
But I suppose I can forgive that because, after all, you're getting shived in the face.
98644a No.2690
Some of these comments prove America needs better gun control laws
2314c5 No.2691
caddb3 No.2702
>>2343
>anti-gun shitposter
Enjoy being walked all over by your government, ausfag.
caddb3 No.2703
>>2494
>the token /leftypol/ shitposter
Because Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot, among others really gave their people gun rights, right?
b64ea4 No.2708
>>2343
>go hard on gun control
>"gun" crime drops
What about everything else? Why would you post "gun deaths" and not the overall homicide rate? is it because you're an idiot?
fe0e54 No.2714
Self-defence is a virtue; the brave and innocent survive and the criminal and guilty die. Maybe that is a bit idealistic, but I'd rather that than my life being ruled by criminals when they please.
045dd6 No.2731
The thing that's wrong with America is the fact that undesirable people and mental health issues, as well as the pressures of the oligarchy are driving people to suicide and homicide. There's no sense of true nationalism whatsoever in the masses so there's no feeling of purpose other than to their family and/or their selves. That's why guns are no longer a simple topic of power to the people, protection and freedom.
That is why even some conservatives are starting to second guess gun laws (bar the Jews trying to weaken the people), because people know right now that guns aren't suitable for widespread availability anymore. Which is why Australia hasn't had a problem because if guns were available, the people who are degenerate junkies will have access to them and their presence in both suburban, urban and rural Australia threatens the law-abiding citizen. Australia would have equivalents of Detroit, except some will be Islamified areas such as Fairfield and Bankstown. I wouldn't want the people who attended the Hyde Park Muslim protests to own guns, they're disrespectful and irresponsible welfare thiefs.
Compare this to traditional America and Australia where our values were different and people gave a shit about their country where power to the people, protection and freedom were valid reasons to be able to buy and own guns. It's just too risky to sell guns to a wider public now because the quality of the people capable of buying it has gone to the shitter. Guns don't kill people, people kill people and the more shitty degenerates and/or angry citizens there are, the more homicides that will occur because of the abuse of the gun's power.
efa380 No.2736
>>2475
> Seriously what's so bad about having regulations in place to prevent retards from getting guns.
"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
3964b0 No.2741
>>2736
>"SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"
I hereby declare the person you replied to is a retard, no guns for him and no drivers license either, we cant have retards driving cars as seen by the 4 killed this weekend, think of the children.
2cc58b No.9087
28eee9 No.9369
absolutely nothing wrong with owning a gun, its funny because several OECD countries have easy access to guns but don't have the retarded gun """""culture""""" the US has, therefore non of its drawbacks
8a8ae5 No.9680
for it so the proles can revolt against the bourgeois
4602d8 No.9846
>>2343
Australia is not 13% black with a substantial beaner population.
61f4b3 No.9849
>>9846
Would be nice to have a beaner version of this.
28eee9 No.9856
>>9846
>>9849
certain latin american countries and states within them have lower homicide rate than america, a lower suicde rate aswell
try again
089ea7 No.9878
>>9856
>Certain Latin American countries
Yeah, the white ones.
Memes aside, Argentina and Uruguay are whiter than America at this point. To be fair they also have hardcore gun control laws, but so does majority black/mulatto Brazil and that obviously doesn't change anything,
0367bb No.9976
>>9856
As a non-Canadian... What the hell is up with Nunavut? What's their excuse?
716780 No.9985
>>9976
injuns... or more precisely, inuit
they're still uncivilized barbarians
28eee9 No.9996
>>9878
>argentina
>chile
>peru
>uruguay
>the caribean
>white
kek, dumb faggot needs to stop taking /int/ memes seriously and travel to south america himself
716780 No.9998
>>9996
>argentina
>uruguay
>chile
>peru
>in the same category regarding whiteness
kek, dumb faggot needs to stop taking /pol/ memes seriously and travel to south america himself
28eee9 No.10001
>>9998
I have, and they are as amerindian as the center/north of mexico
716780 No.10003
>>10001
I don't know what argentina/uruguay you travelled to tbh
28eee9 No.10005
>>10003
the same argentina and uruguay everyone travels to
the one that is full of mestizos claiming to be white and culturally european
716780 No.10006
>>10005
well tbh they are brown but you should see spain and italy for comparison too
28eee9 No.10008
>>10006
if you belive spaniards and italians have the same genetic make up as mestizos from the americas you are severely mistaken
8b00a1 No.10086
The right to bear arms without infringement has been explicitly penned by our forefathers. Politicians have slowly curtailed the rights our forefathers fought for and the second amendment is essentially the last remaining right we have. This is more about principles in defending what it means to be American than a half assed attempt at limiting gun violence. You will not find logic in the gun debate, it is rightfully rhetoric and emotional, it's about respecting our founder's wishes for Christ's sake.
818ae3 No.10092
I don't need to convince you because I have a gun, and you don't.