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>>427

There is none

>>427

He shat on the constitution by suggesting we selectively apply birthright citizenship.

Also, if he fucks up no one under 20 right now will ever take a conservative candidacy seriously again

>>41

>>506

Some points are out of date.

>>453

>Also, if he fucks up no one under 20 right now will ever take a conservative candidacy seriously again

Worked for Obama, even got elected for a second round.

>>511

See the first bullet point.

>The man vacillates between whatever "truth" is the most popular.

He's white and doesn't like anti-white slurs being used.

>>516

There's a popular saying, anon...

>If you're not a liberal at 25, you have no heart

>If you're not a conservative at 35, you have no brain

Young people are inclined to vote for more socialist-leaning, degenerate candidates when they're younger because they have no real world experience fresh out of college, and they think redistribution works. Anyone who's a democrat can be a shit and get re-elected.

It's the Conservatives who have to fight for the young person's vote because of this.

Trump or Sanders would fuck up the economy so badly that we might even potentially have a revolution on hand. Personally I hope a Democrat gets elected so we can finally admit socialism even in mild forms is a burden on the community, but fortunately even Trump would screw it up badly enough.

I want my freedom back, but no one is gonna fucking vote Libertarian, and they sure as hell aren't gonna vote in any of my Anarchist/Minarchist friends until they get a few dozen bullets shot into them by the state.

>>427

Eminent domain. He loves that shit.

He knew he was likely going up against Hillary when he implied that Megyn Kelly must be having her period and Carly Fiorina's face is too ugly for the oval office. Trump made himself the dream "opponent" for a candidate basically running on a platform of being a female.

Having the same position on global warming as Reagan did over half a century ago is also preposterous.

>>427

Because you're an intelligent human bean who realizes the sociopathic shitheads on wall street are the ones responsible for the mess of the last 8 years in the first place. You're an intelligent human bean who easily sees past all the talking points and all the rhetoric and understands that voting a shameless self-promoter with no experience in government to the highest office in the country is just about the dumbest fucking thing you could do.

are you there Al?

He's an opportunist who believes vaccines cause autism, climate change doesn't real, and loves Israel and legal non-white immigration. Also, I think he called Pat Buchanan a Nazi at one point.

He's still the best major candidate, though.

>>705

>He's an opportunist who believes vaccines cause autism

He said vaccines cause autism indirectly.

Lots of vaccines over a short time -> symptoms like fever -> some damage to the brain -> autism

He's ok with vaccines as long as you give them over a long period of time. That's what I heard him say.

Not shilling for trump, just commenting on this point.

>>506

HAHAHA

Nice quotes from fucking 1998

What if he does a bad job as president and inadvertently swings the country back to the Left at a critical moment?

That's my biggest concern.

>>942

The country's largely pretty far left right now.

>>942

The country is already left.

>>942

The country is already overwhelmingly left, this is very likely the last election convervatives can win on their current set of values.

>>427

The biggest argument is that he very likely can not accomplish most of his campaign promises politically

>>942

The last two presidents have been major fuck ups and puppets and the public didn't give a shit as the MSM coviniently ignored thier worst mistakes. For Trump this might be different, every little thing will probably provoke a media uproar, and will therefore further reinforce the left.

>>977

>wellSureBut.png

well sure but what?

just because we're anti-moderation bias it doesn't mean we welcome shitposting

sage for off topic

If you're looking forward to the collapse, Trump is going to postpone it at least 8 years.

>>685

> sociopathic shitheads on wall street

Lmao you don't even know what Trump does for a living

>le every conservative works on wall street meme

>>705

>loves Israel

This is why I refuse to vote for any candidate. They're all shilling kikeland.

> legal non-white immigration

You say that as if it were a bad thing

>>427

He wants to shut down the internet

>>6765

>You say that as if it were a bad thing

Not the guy you were talking to but agreed. Even the Reich had some non-whites living there. This includes Kai-shek's kid.

So, how likley it is that he will get nominated? As far as I see he gets constant coverage on TV, like in the past two days, and although it's mostly negative he still seems to have a lot of support considering the poll numbers.

And while some of his ideas sound good, the same amount of them sound as if he's some retard that tries to fuck with everyone and set himself up to fail.

Would the republicans really nominate him who looks like a pr-disaster in human form?

>>6765

>You say that as if it were a bad thing

It is. A small percentage of non-whites is fine, but there are far too many in the United States as it is. Bringing over more is just going to lower trust and social capital and further erode American culture.

>>6769

Wasn't that taken out of context? I've heard that he was talking specifically about ISIS-related sites, though that could be wrong.

>>427

>no better alternatives (Ron Paul is not running, Rand lacks backbone)

>makes sense, at least most of the time

>likes 2nd amendment

>shits on PC

>isn't ashamed of being white, heterosexual man

>media hates him in such an over the top way that more people will lose faith in the media

However

>he uses 'common sense' against the Internet

>however, this 'common sense' argument will be used against us, because of >/islam/

>IF his daughter isn't Jewish because of political reasons, it is looking pretty bad.

>he is pretty old

>media going 'all in' means that they either do not need support anymore (something big will happen and rights will be removed) or that they are shitting their pants

What I'd like to know:

>what are his dealings with Jews, Jesuits, skull n' bones, Turks... If any.

>is he religious? If so, which religion and/or denomination

>what is his ideology? Pure reactionary meme?

>did he get his wealth completely legally?

The best reason why someone wouldn't want to vote for him is because we don't actually know if he's genuine about the majority of the stuff he says. I will remind all of you that he was a democrat for a very long time before this election. In fact, he only switched republican in 2012.

but then again, you could dig up shit for anyone, so this isn't really a big point against him

>>6798

wrong flag

Supporting the NSA, thinking what Snowden did was a bad thing, and internet censorship.

He's still still the best thing to happen to politics in ages.

>>453

WRONG

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422723/trumps-critics-are-wrong-about-14th-amendment-and-birthright-citizenship-edward-j

>In 1866, Congress passed a Civil Rights Act to guarantee black Americans their constitutional rights as citizens, claiming that the Constitution’s Thirteenth Amendment gave Congress the power to pass such laws.

>The Civil Rights Act included a definition for national citizenship, to guarantee that former slaves would forever be free of the infamous Dred Scott decision which declared black people were not American citizens. That provision read, “All persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States.”

>That was the original meaning of the jurisdiction language in the Fourteenth Amendment. A person who is “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States is a person who is “not subject to any foreign power”—that is, a person who was entirely native to the United States, not the citizen or subject of any foreign government. The same members of Congress who voted for the Thirteenth Amendment in 1865 then voted to define citizenship for freed slaves in a federal law in 1866, then voted again months later in 1866—using only slightly different language—to put that definition of citizenship in the Constitution, language that was ultimately ratified by the states in 1868 as the Fourteenth Amendment.

>In 1884, the Supreme Court in Elk v. Wilkins noted that the language of the Civil Rights Act was condensed and rephrased in the Fourteenth Amendment and that courts can therefore look to the Civil Rights Act to understand better the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. The Court reasoned that if a person is a foreign citizen, then their children are likewise not constitutionally under the jurisdiction of the United States, and therefore not entitled to citizenship. In fact, the Court specifically then added that this rule is why the children of foreign ambassadors are not American citizens.

>That is why Congress can specify that the children of foreign diplomats and foreign soldiers are not Americans by birth. They’re not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. Congress’s INA does not grant them citizenship; federal law never has.

>>6804

fuck wrong link

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/18/constitution-doesnt-mandate-birthright-citizenship/

probably similar info anyway

He's an authoritarian

>>944

>>954

>>976

lol. all this spooky identity politics

>>527

Someone who appreciates when people can be proud of themselves and disrespects self hate is apparently bad.

How does it benefit you?

>>7006

Lower taxes for every bracket, Bernie Sanders proposes $19.6 trillion in tax hikes over ten years.

inb4 "the rich will pay for it"

The total net worth (Net Worth =/= annual income, mind you) of every single millionaire and billionaire in this country is about $2.5 trillion, every year the national debt in this country increases by $2 trillion, so taxing the rich at even 100 percent will do approximately jack shit to resolve the underlying fiscal insanity and failure, as well as the problems with the Fed, Trumps tax plan cuts taxes for everyone, rich or poor, so given the choice between exorbitant tax hikes and less taxes and rational adult will choose less taxes.

>>427

he thinks Putin is a good guy

he doesn't give a fuck about Europe and wants to extort money from it for protection

>>7101

t. Europoor

>>7007

Sanders has anticipated this criticism, his point is that a single payer system will save you more money.

“If you are paying $10,000 a year to a private health insurance company, and I say to you, hypothetically, that you are going to pay $5,000 more a year in taxes…but you’re not going to pay any more private health insurance, are you going to be complaining about the fact that I’ve saved you $5,000 in your total bills?”

>>7102

how does that make what I wrote untrue?

Trump said that shit himself

>>6769

All the powers-that-be want to shut down the internet

>>427

He is rich and you are not.

He doesn't represent you.

>>528

Underrated post, bravo anon, you nailed it

>>7115

and whats wrong with that? Why do you feel entitled to free money?

>>7144

The same could be said of all the other candidates.

>>427

Supports eminent domain

>worships israel

>son and daughter married to jews

>>7150

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>>427

Here's a better question. Give me a reason to vote for anyone who isn't Trump. i bet you can't find one

>>7150

All of the current candidates support eminent domain. They're all hardcore statists for fuck's sake. Trump doesn't pretend to be a sheep about it at least.

He is a suit that really never had a real struggle on his life like your everyday man does, he probably struggled though not like we do.

>>6765

>>7152

That's because The Jews rule over the USA. If Trump will support Israel, then the Jews will let him run for office

>>6951

Compared to...? They're all extreme authoritarians. The only one who was running that was less of an authoritarian than Trump was Rand Paul.

He's nothing more than a yuppie looking out for his own wealthy interests. If you think he gives a single shit about middle/lower class workers you're just deluding yourself.

It's really not in your best interest m8.

But the system's a joke anyways.

The only good reason I could give you is that Trump is inexperienced and Gary Johnson is the single best candidate this year and all years. But since Johnson has 0 coverage, and absolutely nobody knows who he is, Trump or Hillary are our best options since they'll block TPP. Trump exudes leadership and frankly is good friends with Putin. Considering Putin managed to wrangle Russia's national bank under his control, we might see Trump take a crack at bringing the Federal Reserve under control. Another good reason not to vote Trump is that we have no idea how congress will react to him as president.

Wallstreet arguments are not applicable to Trump, he may invest here and there, but he isn't a stock broker, speculator or trader leeching off the economy.

>>7674

Also this should not be interpreted as I support any other candidate, I support none of them as I believe that any candidate is pre selected, whomever wins israel wins,elections are just there to give the illusion of freedom of choice.

The system is rigged and no matter who you vote for israel still gets into the oval office.

>>437

no