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f99657 No.4849

I found a little video which concerns the corruption of Christian memes for pushing a agenda. This is a doodle animation of one of C.S. Lewis Screw Tape Letters, a work of fiction about two demons talking about tempting people into sin. The maxim we should special attention to is:

>Don't believe something because its true, but believe it because it serves a purpose.

This has been a major political concern since the end of the ancient world. Although common people tolerated heresies the high church has usually intervened with peaceful means. Rarely the pope declared a crusades. If you don't trust me on that, just look up Catharism. Nowadays heresies hasn't been properly addressed for about 300 years and the notion that state should legislate morality has gotten a foothold in the West. I know that it would fit better on /christian/ on the first glance but I don't wont to concern myself with Theology in this thread. I rather want to discuss the the effects of these dynamics on political decision making and believes. Many things like Climate Change, Social Justice, Race, Science etc. has effectively replaced god as object of worship. The logical end of this are cruddy assumption borne out of hubris like the assumption that you can legislate global weather.

d41fb2 No.4856

>>4849

>state should legislate morality has gotten a foothold in the West

I'd argue it's been like this for quite a while, just look at how some of the reformation movements got started, specifically the Anglicans. Prior to that the State had a great deal of say in their local/national church. The difference is that there's been a divergence of moralities between the Church and the State in the last few centuries.

>Many things like Climate Change, Social Justice, Race, Science etc. has effectively replaced god as object of worship

Certainly, in many ways the situation is becoming similar to how the Roman pagan faiths died out to Christianity. The "new" religion, progressivism, is starting to take over the "old" religion Christianity, they adopt some of the values of the old religion and change them ever so slightly to support their new position. An example of this is original sin turning into privilege.

>believe it because it serves a purpose.

For better or worse, this is how the world tends to work. Everyone has an agenda or motive and uses the tools at hand to try and push or achieve a goal.


434714 No.5096

>>4856

>I'd argue it's been like this for quite a while, just look at how some of the reformation movements got started, specifically the Anglicans. Prior to that the State had a great deal of say in their local/national church. The difference is that there's been a divergence of moralities between the Church and the State in the last few centuries.

Different nations, different eras.

During the reign of the Borgia Pope, I'd argue that Spain was fairly Christian. Yes, including Inquisition.


f7cbd8 No.5119

can someone explain what this is about?


d06f39 No.5120

>>5119

Watch the video. Then ask yourself: What has that to do with SJW?


434714 No.5276

>>5120

Yeah, SJWs are tied in the spiritual sense.


9f0cce No.5310

I don't understand the point you're trying to make with the Cathars. The local Cathar leaders were excommunicated, meaning other local leaders basically had to kill them and take their shit before Spain did, ultimately leading to the Albigensian Crusade (declared via papal edict iirc)

Or were you trying to say that this was a rare example of the state legislating morality?


93733a No.5331

>>5310

The church is not the state. What I wanted to point is that heresy against mainstream morality ,no matter how sophisticated it is, is much older problem than the Hippie movement.


0f88de No.5338

>>5331

>The church is not the state.

Before the separation of church and state, it was.




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