/politics/ - News & Politics

>>5613

"Yay TPP!" - Barack Obama

>>5613

he's a gommie, he hates jobs and infrastructure

it limits state's ability to hand out social support

>>5613

I think Keystone should have never had a politician touch it, and that we'd be using hemp oil anyways to power cars if not for the government.

Good decision. A fucking oil pipeline has little to do with infrastructure, and it doesn't create anywhere near the amount of jobs that cuckservative dipshits claim it does. This has become little more than a political talking point.

>>5624

I think the point still remains that it's ridiculous that the oil pipeline needed to get permission from the feds (or be funded by the feds) in the first place.

>>5628

Not when it has significant environmental consequences.

>>5629

Versus trains, which is what they're currently using? >>5622

The people you're defending are also the ones against nuclear reactors which are 100x cheaper, safer, more powerful, etc.

>>5628

The pipeline cuts though two indian reservations

>>5632

Then let the Indian reservations decide if they want it or not.

>>5633

>>5633

Yeah but boundaries between the reservation and non-reservation is owned by the federal government and any environmental issues are handled by the federal government because the Natives don't want to police it themselves.

>>5638

Why does the federal government need to own those boundaries in the first place?

"We don't want to deal with it" is not a valid excuse unless they're hiring someone to do it like a security firm. Last I checked, they're not hiring the feds to perform a service there.

>>5633

>>5633

Yeah but boundaries between the reservation and non-reservation is owned by the federal government and any environmental issues are handled by the federal government because the Natives don't want to police it themselves. >>5639

>Why does the federal government need to own those boundaries in the first place?

Because State Law and Tribal law have totally different rules and punishments

>>5624

How's that electric car powered by wind energy and hugs going for you?

>>5641

>Because State Law and Tribal law have totally different rules and punishments

Then the local states, or even better, the surrounding cities should be in charge of it. If there aren't any notable authorities, than it doesn't matter.

I've been saying this for years, the states should just start saying "look, if you want X law enforced, do it yourselves." Feds wouldn't be able to keep in business.

>We love Trump because he puts America first

>Fuck Nebraskans for trying to put Nebraska first, they should let Canadians pump oil over the Aquifer so they can refine it and ship it to China

Maybe if the stupid niggers didn't try to put it over the Ogallala Aquifer and threaten an agrarian state's source of water, we wouldn't have this problem. Keystone XL had the potential to kill Nebraska's economy.

>>5622

Not putting it over an underground Great Lake that basically finances the state's economy is the better option.

>>5643

>Then the local states, or even better, the surrounding cities should be in charge of it

The feds (BLM) OWN the land and refuse to sell it

>>5642

>How's that electric car powered by wind energy and hugs going for you?

breddy gud bro!

>>5644

I'm all for doing it safely and responsibly, and so were the majority of Nebraskans

http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/of-nebraskans-polled-said-they-back-building-keystone-xl-pipeline/article_b4e5559d-187b-5c23-96b4-7aa4a1b33c1c.html

>>5613

the XL project is retarded, it wouldn't bring very many jobs, and if a leak did occur, due to the tar sands oil quality, it would be damn near impossible to clean, especially since tar sands oil sinks in water, making conventional cleaning techniques useless.

It's pointless now, especially since the tar sands oil patches are going to be unprofitable in the near term, and the US has shale sources we're developing from.

>>5655

Here's where I get my power from you n00b

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altamont_Pass_Wind_Farm

>>5667

>California

Double kek.

Anon, wind power only powers towns/cities during certain peak hours, which happen to not coincide with peak usage times. I'm not going to explain the intricacies of batteries and why you can't just make them bigger, but your city is using even more pollutant sources than coal during those peak hours that your windmills fail during.

I think this vid is related to the thread

>>5652

Exactly. People here aren't anti-pipeline, they're just against running it through the Sandhills and over the Aquifer.

>>5630

Ultimately we need a source of energy that isn't pig disgusting.

I suggest solar, as it has the largest potential.

>>6161

they had to cancel colbert because his eagle got hit by a windmill