/politics/ - News & Politics

>>5626

Unions should have struck a good balance instead of assuming their jobs were cozy/demanding more constantly for an extremely easy job.

Immigrants shouldn't receive any special corporate benefits as they currently do. Natives shouldn't be massive cunts who form monopolies of labor.

>>5631

There is a difference between "fuck them they're too stupid" and "fuck them, their job doesn't deserve X pay." You're trying to justify paying employees more than they're worth because you feel bad for them. Both the migrants and the union were equally responsible in this situation, no shit the packing firms would start to resort to automation which is dirt cheap.

Here's a better one for you, beef is kept up by subsidies and shitty laws. Otherwise we'd be eating buffalo, which is just as nutritious AND lower fat content.

Not to mention the shitty laws that require meat to be processed in shitty facilities, otherwise the farmers would process, prepare, and sell it from their homes resorting in better quality meat.

>>5640

Did you eat a lot of paint chips as kid?

natives shouldn't form monopolies of labor? Why not? It's their country. The labor market like any market needs some regulation. Flood the labor market and wages drop. That's simple supply and demand. Markets need some regulation so the little guy doesn't get completely boned.

Eating Buffalo meat?? Do you realize how absurd that is? We'd have to leave the entire great plains as wild prairie and it still wouldn't produce enough to meet the demand.. (Not to mention all that grain that would no longer be coming from Kansas)

Farmers prepare and process and sell it from their homes. Let's have everyone from Chicago drive out into the countryside once a week to buy sausage? That didn't even exist in the old days. Division of labor is the hallmark of economic advancement.

There have been specialized butchers for centuries. Farmer Brown doesn't have the time or the talent to process his own cattle.

Damn, you are a very disappointing first responder for my first post on this board.

>>5649

>natives shouldn't form monopolies of labor? Why not? It's their country

So then you must support the abolition of the federal government and re-establishment of each state (or even city's) right to self-governance, correct? Because otherwise, non-natives (those in the next city over, those in the next state over) will fuck around with your union monopolies, jackass.

>Regulation

Not gonna open up that can of worms and make you sperg out. Lets just say this; burden of proof lies with the one who wants to establish a precedent not based in axioms, and "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."

>Eating Buffalo meat?? Do you realize how absurd that is?

Not absurd at all, otherwise the beef industry wouldn't need massive subsidies and favors from the government.

>We'd have to leave the entire great plains as wild prairie and it still wouldn't produce enough to meet the demand.

Except we wouldn't and you're full of shit. I live in those Great Plains and I've worked with those buffalo/bison herders. Bison eat about half of what cows eat (which you're perfectly fine with letting overgraze everywhere anyways), are a native species, and happen to breed like oversized rabbits when properly raised. There's restrictions that force bison meat to be priced at a certain point (passed by the federal govt. and beef lobbyists) as well as limits on how many you can have as a farmer, which is effectively keeping them as an at-risk species.

>Let's have everyone from Chicago drive out into the countryside once a week to buy sausage?

Because everyone totally drives down to the processing facilities, right? Oh wait, you actually believe the processing facilities are in the middle of urban populations, don't you? I'm not sure which idea is more childish.

those facilities are just a middle man raising the price of your meat.

>There have been specialized butchers for centuries.

And there will continue to be such. A butcher is not the same thing as a meat processor, dumbass.

Damn, I can't believe we have to deal with these sorts of retards who probably grew up with shitty public education standards.

>>5657

For further reading on the topic of how government fucks over farmers for big corporations that the OP is endorsing, please see...

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>>5631

>college students who will just glide into a high paying job after college

That doesn't really happen anymore outside of the top performers. The college educated market now is saturated beyond all belief, and graduate schools are starting to march on that road as well.

Hell, we're at the point where we literally have too many STEM degree holders, roughly 2:1 for degree holders:STEM jobs

Even in some areas you're starting to see Trades oversaturation as well, depending on whether or not the old timers lock arms against the new kids

>>5672

colonizing space? What the fuck that have to do with this thread?

Goddamn space cadets.. going to the stars is your solution to everything.

>kick out 25% of the current legal population

>actually thinking that it'll improve things

>>7379

How are they legal?

and removing 25% of the work force would increase wages due to simple supply and demand.

Got a better idea,, or do you just want to pretend everything is great and you have the same economic opportunities as your grandparents did?