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over 100 dead

1500 people in concert hall and only killed 100?

Yes, yes. It's on /pol/ and /n/ too.

Since this isn't really political take a sage and I hope other anons do the same.

>>6215

How in the world is this not political?

>>6213

I assume they didn't have much time.

>>6215

It's absolutely political. They are killing for political Islam.

That and the political fallout from this is going to be immense. We can discuss that.

My prediction: Front Nationale is going to be the winners of the next French general election.

>>6219

Can they actually shut it down?

All mafias of Europe will be against this. With the exception of the nose and EUSSR mafia.

>>6217

It's snackbars so it's only tangentially political. It's first and foremost a terroristic act, making it news, not politics.

>>6218

see

>>6224

and this morning we found out who was responsible.

the mass media claim its ISIS.

This means rockefeller \ Israel are behind it : they want to drastically increase military activity in Syria. It's a response to Russian presence in Syria and Ukraine.

A large new deployment \ attack in Syria \ Ukraine is likely already underway.

We knew this was coming. I hope some of you still remember those vids of trainlines in west ukraine completely covered in long freight trains full of heavy military hardware in summer 2015.

>>6231

>>6233

So did it not actually happen or was it done by Israel and the "elites"?

keep your conspiracies in order

>>6233

>Israel to blame for ISIS

CAIR plz go.

>>6234

a fake crisis happened.

If you want to refute that claim and replace it with a claim that an actual crisis happened then post evidence : photo \ video of actual bomb bullet dmg or injury or death to parisians.

pic related : mass media pic : a completely uninjured man pretends to be injured. he appears to be hooked up to a gas cylinder.

He has a pressure gauge on his arm to see if he is rapidly losing blood. But he is not bleeding like a cut pig, he is not bleeding at all. He has been sat there for a at least a short time so there should be some sign of blood loss if he needs a blood pressure gauge.

18 hrs into this event and so far :

zero evidence of bomb blast dmg

zero evidence of bullet dmg

zero evidence of anyone injured

zero evidence of anyone killed

....and counting.

>>6241

fail vid : u have to watch it thru bestgore

http://www.bestgore.com/murder/torn-up-victims-bomb-blasts-hyderabad-india/

>>6242

Acneska at bestgore spotted it straight away for what it is a fake crisis used to justify a war in syria.

http://www.bestgore.com/murder/paris-hit-multiple-explosion-shooting-france/

>>6243

> israel \ rockefeller use a proxy militia ( ISIS ) to invade syria

> russian military boots ISIS the fuck out

> israel \ rockefeller need to invoke a overt war to invade syria now : hence : a staged crisis ( new 9/11 ) to go to war in the middle east.

>" We are going to lead a war which will be pitiless. Because when terrorists are capable of committing such atrocities, they must be certain that they are facing a determined France, a united France, a France that is together, and does not let itself be moved, even if today we express infinite sorrow. "

~ French President Hollande in response to 2015 November Paris fake crisis.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/paris-attacks-were-an-act-of-war-by-islamic-state-french-president-francois-hollande-says-1447498080

>>6244

>somehow shoehorning jews in as a source of islamic militants, despite the fact jews have given up bitching and begun FLEEING Europe a full 5 years ago, while Israel has actually implemented automated kebab-removal tools to assist their armies in removing kebab.

[mudslime shilling intensifies]

>>6241

>>6242

hey m8 maybe not all bombs make the same size of boom, ever thought of that?

The Bavarian has busted a potential accomplice of the terrorists for arms smuggling. Its some guy from Montenegro.

>>6245

>jews behind every political movement that has ruined europe

>its not the jews this time, trust me goys

Any new developments?

>>6231

*tips tinfoil hat*

here's the clip of the window hangers.

there's a few odd things about it, but the main thing :

At 0:41 the camera turns to 2 people who have suddenly become paralyzed and whose friends now drag them. A load of blood appears to be dumped, like there is severe bleeding, then it immediately stops, and the only continuation of bleeding appears to be a smear as he is dragged, from the initial burst of blood. The 2nd paralyzed person shows no sign of bleeding at all.

There is no apparent reason why these 2 suddenly became paralyzed. there is no gunshot sound or shooter. This is strong evidence that this scene is faked.

http://mobile.lemonde.fr/attaques-a-paris/video/2015/11/14/images-de-la-fusillade-au-bataclan_4809661_4809495.html?xtref=http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message3006616/pg1

The hopper : a man with a fresh injury severe enough to force him to hop on one leg, but at the same time he appears to suffer no pain at all while hopping rapidly. There is no visible wound or blood. Its as if he's hopping with 2 good legs.

I, and most will know, when you have a leg injury severe enough that it forces you to limp, the pain is usually severe. To force you to hop implies the leg can take no weight at all implying the pain and injury is even worse, except in that case L the jiggling of the bad leg with each hop should cause severe pain, so people with such injuries would crawl rather than hop.

seems fake to me.

>>6293

Your first point, the two people who become paralyzed. They obviously had internal injury. When your life is in danger and you are shot adrenaline will keep you going, if you serve in military or work as policeman you know it takes more than a couple shots to drop someone when they have adrenaline. I have seen war videos where men drag their legs with flesh hanging off, and I've broken my own leg before, you don't feel the pain. These people possibly were shot in gut, or chest area? If they kept running, there would be a lot of blood loss. Blood soaks into their clothes, and when they hit the ground it is like throwing a sponge on the floor, creating splatter. Shock and adrenaline can also explain hopping man, as he is too concerned with his life to feel his leg.

Other pictures can be written off as the incompetence of the Frog defense force, as I'm sure they've never had to deal with real firearm, and the workers just don't know how to approach massacre of this size. The more people you get on scene the more difficult it is to determine what you should be doing, like trying to move a table with 40 other men, it is not efficient. Road crews take longer to clear up wreckage and scrape brains off highway, what makes you think it is easy for 129 bodies? There doesn't have to be blood everywhere, it either wasn't published due to decency or wasn't created by kalashnikov rifles chambered in 7.62x39mm. If anyone has seen the damage this caliber can cause, I encourage you to speak up, as I am not familiar and would like to know, as it is relevant to political discussion of bullets. Maybe I will hop on the pc and post ballistic tests, yes I will do that.

It is very important we approach situation logically. We need to discuss in terms of interest of the parties who could have initiated this event, and what they would have to gain by faking something like this, if they faked it. . If jew fake killings, what does he have to gain? Doesn't he hate kebab? Why would he spare gentile lives? Where are all the people who were there saying, "I was there, he did not of shoot me it is lie?" Wouldn't jew have let Muslim dogs loose? Killings are real, media already say it was Isis. Isis is in Syria. So is Russia. If you watch French news and watch French radio you can see that they do not want to arm populace and give them right to defend themselves, it is stricter gun control and more surveillance. They are asking, "why did we not catching them sooner?" Europe want ingsoc like George Orwell said. But is it really the Isis? Or are they just being attention whores with one of their 13 million unorganized twitter channels claiming it was them? It could have been someone else, with the controlled opposition (Isis) taking the heat in order to harness this event. Maybe it is genuine jihad warrior, killing only for purge of infidel? They attacked degenerate music concert, and shot the people at the bar first. Either way, we must wait and see, and dig. Don't focus too much on the event itself, but rather its effect.

triple posting to beat the 8chan server bug

>>6304

>doesn't explain the 2nd paralytic who doesn't drop any blood at all.

>doesn't explain the coincidence of becoming paralytic at same time

> very unlikely that they go from zero visible symptoms of injury to total paralysis

>creating splatter.

there was no splatter. just a single blob and then smear which quickly ran out.

> doesn't explain the coincidence of the camera man missing the silent transition from no symptoms to total paralysis by about 1 second.

>doesn't explain why friends didn't yell in horror that their symptom-less friends suddenly became paralyzed both at same time.

>Shock and adrenaline can also explain hopping man

given that there is no visible sign of injury,

given that he makes no attempt to limp before resorting to hopping

given that he keeps hold of his jacket

given that he is still using his bad leg muscles to keep good balance during hops.

given that there is zero sign of pain in his movements

given that he didn't yell for help from one of the numerous others passing by

given that no-one tried to help him even though a few seemed to mope around surveying the situation and others seemed to assist perfectly able bodied people.

... its more likely he is faking it

adrenaline may stop a lot of pain, but a seriously injured leg will throw u off balance if you try to hop like you usually would with 2 good legs.

hopping requires coordination from both legs.

He didn't have time to learn how to balance with his new injured leg, but was able to do it right straight away, and it looked just like hopping with 2 good legs.

Thats is why a bad leg forces u to usually limp or crawl. sustained hopping is rare.

....

anyway benjamin seems likes theres only me and your shills on the whole of 8chan for the last 3 days.

I'm the one posting sceptical analysis of paris on /n/ , /politics/ and /polpol/ and its been quiet. I haven't bothered with /pol/ because its been just a shill shitpostfest for the last week.

looks like you've successfully shutdown any serious opposition to the creation of this paris terror attack myth.

Looks like the euro goyim are going off to syria to fight the russians.

>>6308

>given that no-one tried to help him even though a few seemed to mope around surveying the situation and others seemed to assist perfectly able bodied people.

Most people in the west won't help absolute strangers injured in the street, especially not if they're panicking. Those who were assisting people who were fine were likely assisting their friends.

>>6308

>Looks like the euro goyim are going off to syria to fight the russians.

I'm gonna agree though that going fighting in Syria isn't a solution even if (as I believe) those attacks are 100% legit. You cannot fight domestic terrorism with military attack, you're only going to provoke more attacks and you won't get rid of terrorist cells in your own country. It's not a country vs country type of combat, it's country vs organisation, and an organisation doesn't need a territory to function, only a source of income.

>>6308

>Looks like the euro goyim are going off to syria to fight the russians.

I'm gonna agree though that going fighting in Syria isn't a solution even if (as I believe) those attacks are 100% legit. You cannot fight domestic terrorism with military attack, you're only going to provoke more attacks and you won't get rid of terrorist cells in your own country. It's not a country vs country type of combat, it's country vs organisation, and an organisation doesn't need a territory to function, only a source of income.

(in case it didn't post because error)

>>6314

>Most people in the west won't help absolute strangers injured in the street

>most people

maybe, but its not true that no-one will help

I'm an oldfag and I seen a few crises 1st hand. Strangers do come help, at least 25% of the time, and given thats there's usually a few people around, someone who needs help often gets it fast.

>absolute strangers

they booked to go to the same foreign tour gig. they saw each others profile on social networks. Even if they just turn up on the door without prior booking, they are going with like minded people. I wouldn't call them absolute strangers

>panicking

He wasn't panicking

>Those who were assisting people who were fine were likely assisting their friends.

Or some bird they just met and are trying to bang. Thats the only reasonable thing you've said.

But besides,

you are missing a crucial point. Any one of the points I make ; doesn't falsify the real terror story pushed by the media.

What each point does show is that the story is unlikely to be fully right for that specific point. There may be exceptional circumstances to explain it.

But what makes a critical mind suspiciuos is when multiple odd things occur. This compounds the chance of the story being wrong, and in this case promotes the alternative theory : thats its a staged crisis act to promote military escalation in syria.

this theory is entirely consistent with what we see in paris.

its like rolling a dice. if u roll it twice and get 6,6 then its nothing special. but if u roll in 1000 times and get 900 ( or even 800 ) 6s then you can be sure its loaded, even if 100,200 times it doesnt roll 6 and these results can be explain by it being a fair dice.

so when u reply to my post, ignore all the oddest results, and pick out the 1 u find easiest to explain with the terror myth, then make a poor job of trying to explain it, anyone of sound mind knows u are either retarded or a shill.

politics what's goin on with all the countries that took any immigrants instituting police state/ martial law since Paris bomb?

>>6319

On contrary, you're dead set on proving that this was 100% staged, therefore you pick every single detail that may or may not mean something. And you've made some pretty stupid mistakes doing so, for example completely ignoring that you don't feel pain right after injury yet.

But, what you are missing is: has there ever been an attack that wasn't "proven" to be staged? If I were to believe tinfoilers, should I also believe that nothing can happen in the West without the government orchestrating it? I always found it funny how by conspiracy theories, government is presumed to be omnipotent and omnipresent. I actually have a (semi-serious) theory that it's the government itself spreading conspiracy theories, so that they have controlled opposition of tinfoilers that don't investigate things that truly matter, and also spread fear so people are less likely to try funny things.