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4fd6c1 No.6652

Pic related. Name the top ten successful government programs in your country (or really in whatever country you want to choose) and describe why those programs were successful/had more benefits than costs.

772bb2 No.6657

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>>6652

Number 1: The military.

First order, then civilization, then liberty, and then maybe gibs if you are prosperous enough to spare it.

The military keeps order in the first instance, and then protects the country from outside and inside dissolution of the country.

2: The justice system and the police.

This comes under civilization, because wants a basic might makes right style order is established, you need formal rules that reflect the will of the populace, and fuck over any aberrations and criminals.

In the UK, we are losing a lot of freedoms, but relatively speaking, it's still a developed country where the populace like being free. Classical liberalism has a rich history in the UK.

By enforcing a reasonable property rights regime with low red tape, and having an extremely wide range of social freedoms, our government has defended our liberty from alternative hypothetical governments and itself (I'm not being satirical. That's literally how government works. All other theories are nonsense.)

3: Disability Living Allowance and other freebies.

This is one of my favorite. This is gibs for me. Even though my body is healthy, as a child I was diagnosed with aspergers.

Even though I probably could have got a job ages ago, I now sort of defraud the state to stay home and shitpost all day. My mummy gets carer's allowance even though I live in a separate accommodation.

I think this is worth it because I'm too lazy and not smart enough to get a high paying job, so I am in a welfare trap. If I went and worked in a supermarket, I would be miserable and would probably earn less.

I think it's worth it, but there are costs. I think Corbyn would go too far and kill the goose laying the golden eggs.

Even though I am a NEET I applaud the capitalists for the bountiful booty they bestow upon me through the implicit social contract and tax laws. I also applaud our extremely market liberal property rights regime that enables wealth and innovation to be generated by the private sector to begin with. The government could give me all the money in the world, but without the goods to support it, it would be useless.

But on balance, it's nice to have gibs. I'm afraid of the Conservatives, and am trying to try to try to learn programming before I wake up and find they are taking away my gibs.

Weirdly, I learned from their Manifesto that UKIP would actually raise my DLA. I thought they were all Thatcherite and stuff. Oh well, I didn't vote.

4: NHS.

On the one hand, you have to wait and the hospitals have a funding crisis nowadays. On the other, for almost 70 years we've had healthcare free at the point of use.

On balance, it has been worth it, even if we can no longer have it without finally privatizing parts of it. I mean, it was set up during the post-war boom when America was helping rebuild the world, and who knows, maybe the Keynesians got that broken window fallacy fallacy right, after all.

Even so, the NHS should cut costs by refusing to treat smokers, alcoholics, and fatties, and I don't mind paying for drugs to treat non life threatening conditions. We also use antibiotics too freely and are creating rapid bacterial resistance.

Still, on balance, as a member of the genetically inferior white trash underclass, I am glad that the NHS in some form exists, even if it could be both more streamlined and more effective.

5: Public funding of higher ed.

I went to a Nun's charity for free gibs, and managed to go back to college (high school) as an "adult", but the state also did affirmative action for me so that I got more time on exams, and I also got free money for food. I still only got an E in maths, but I got an A in economics so its okay.

Some say that there is a lot of useless crap taught in higher ed, but there is also STEM, and we need smart people who aren't me to learn it so they can enslave us all with robots in the future.


772bb2 No.6658

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>>6657

6: Public Transport.

I also get a free transport card so I can go on the buses for free. I could just go anyway and do weird stuff to piss off people and pull weird schemes and then. I never actually did any of this though. I hardly use it now, but it was good for traveling to college.

7: British Railways was probably at least as effective when it was a public utility.

I don't think it makes much difference with rail, because you can't have much of a market.

Maybe it was worth it? I don't really care.

8: Royal Mail.

Well, it's been privatized now, but it was good before so even if it's good now I don't think it matters much.

9: The BBC (the channels, not the cocks).

Kinda scraping the bottom of the barrel here, but I liked a lot of their output and good documentaries, and I loved Robot Wars as a kid, so it was good.

Even so, the TV license is really fucked up. We shouldn't have to pay just to use a TV to fund the BBC like the BBC is some necessary organ that keeps the public alive.

Either put a small extra tax on the rich to fund it, or fuck off. The BBC seems to have become shit now, unlike my childhood. I'm not sure what it is, but everything seems off about it. I don't really care if it dies.

UKIP said they'd scrap the licensing fee too, but I didn't want to be unliberal and become a hater of immigrants, so I decided not to vote. I don't think I regret it, but maybe I'm just telling myself that. I've got this dual feeling in my chest, but it might just be autism.

10: Um...

Erm...

The roads?

I mean, sure they are made by private contractors, but the government pays them, and the government tells them where to put them. It has knowledge about its property that they don't, so it's probably better that way. Whatever government program helps make the roads happen is probably worth it then. Maybe.


cf83b7 No.6659

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merica

pic related is the list


f6afd0 No.6668

Federal Bureau of Investigation


f6afd0 No.6672

>>6658

>UKIP said they'd scrap the licensing fee too, but I didn't want to be unliberal and become a hater of immigrants

UKIP hates immigrants?


8e72b1 No.6715

>>6659

This.


f7d836 No.6761

>>6672

I think he means being afriad to be labeled as a hater of immigration, should someone ask him what he has voted.

Or he is not a pussy, but simply has a very rigid moral codex, which he tries to follow because he truly believes in liberalism and values its more then the nation's cohesion or other values of old.

Here in germany, the government has become quiet crappy in the lst time, but Ill try to find 10 good things that have been done in the past:

1.

The roads.

We have a truly awesome roadsystem that got carefully planned through the powers of authoritanism and is kinda famous now.

The humongous amount of taxmoney that is spent on it will secure the intristic value of our infrastructure for investors and us citizens.

2.

Road safety.

Again our strict bureocrazy that regulates driving schools and the flow of traffic heavily has made us a nation of well mannered drivers and has sucessfully lowered the amount of traffic induced deaths.

3.

My local cityplanning.

The state has protected quiete a lot of old architecture that would have otherwise been replaced by 60er blocks who are now worthless for tourism, our heritage gets safeguarded by the law.

(Also they planted need lil forests for which we arent taxed but keep our air cleaner)

4.

Not really a full Government programm but Gerhard Schroeder managed to not prostitute our country to America for once, so our soldiers didnt fought in that hellish sandbox called Iraq.

5.

The industrialisation had a heavy toll on our greatest rivers like the rhine and others, to the point that they were poisonous, devoid of fish and could be used to develope photos.

An intense Government programm that kicked in, around the 70s managed to transform the streams condition into a healthy state again.

Now you can hold your rod in there.

6.

Water quality in general tops that of many mediterran and eastern countries thanks to strict regulations.

7.

They build up east germany quiete fast and fixed the worst of the visible failures of communism, albeit a lot of the stuff that got build up isnt used accordingly now because of our abyssmal birthrate.

Still, it seemed like a good idea.

Now, it may sound ungrateful as coming from a firstworlder, but everything else I could think off, which used to be good (according to boomers) is now worse.

maybe I can add another 3 later on.


a5659c No.6815

Roads and hydroelectric dams. This sort of infrastructure is the only thing that a state should be managing, because it wouldn't be right for a private company to operate it.

Health and education are complete boondoggles.


cbda81 No.6825

>>6652

if it wasn't for canada's free healthcare i'd be dead

so yeah




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