/politics/ - News & Politics

>There is a real chance that in four months’ time Britain could be casting off from Europe’s shores.

Were a massive group of Islands with a rich maritime history. I think we would fare well even if that is what leaving the EU meant.

>As financial markets woke up to the prospect, the pound this week fell to its lowest level against the dollar since 2009

Unrelated to the referendum.

> It would imperil Britain’s security, when threats from terrorists and foreign powers are at their most severe in years

Having greater control over who comes here will further imperil us? The free movement of peoples is a major benefit to the terrorists. I don't understand the logic of the article here. If I'm missing something someone please elaborate on it.

>And far from reclaiming sovereignty, Britons would be forgoing clout, by giving up membership of a powerful club whose actions they can influence better from within than without

Again, how is regaining much control over our own laws, fishing rights, economy giving AWAY sovereignty? Further, that club's actions are mostly internal and are therefore irrelevant when we leave. It's outward actions are very much questionable and member nations have very little leeway regarding the course of those actions.

>Those outside Britain marvelling at this proposed act of self-harm should worry for themselves, too

Would that be the minority who don't want the EU to collapse? Euroscepticism is only gaining traction across the whole of Europe.

> Poorer, less secure and disunited, the new EU would be weaker

Excellent.

>At a minimum, the EU would allow full access to its single market only in return for adherence to rules that Eurosceptics are keen to jettison

They're in trouble then. Giving we're the biggest exporters to other member nations the EU being up its own arse will only create more Euroscepticism within the Union. Ask Napoleon how his continental system worked out.

>Yet the gain would be partly illusory. In a globalised world, power is necessarily pooled and traded: Britain gives up sovereignty in exchange for clout through its memberships of NATO, the IMF and countless other power-sharing, rule-setting institutions.

And we need to leave those too. However, this is an EU referendum and is ergo gobshite. If i had multiple localised tumours i would not say "no point in removing one with all these others".

>And reducing the numbers of immigrants would hurt Britain’s businesses and public services, which rely on French bankers, Bulgarian builders and Italian doctors

Fallacious. Our graduates are having a heavy time trying to get jobs because of these people. This is mainly a problem in London, i should have guessed the author would be from that pozhole. If they have that much skill and are needed they will have an easy time coming here.

>Brexit might well break up the United Kingdom itself. Scotland, more Europhile than England, is again agitating for a divorce; if Britain decides to leave Europe, then the Scots may at last have a point. Brexit could also dangerously unsettle Northern Ireland, where the peace process over two decades has depended on the fact that both Ireland and Britain are members of the EU

A position which has made the desire for "independence" from the country that saved them from bankruptcy exceptionally weaker. As for Ireland? They had no trouble accepting our bailout. They consistently refuse to do anything in the EU unless we're doing it. I'm sure they'll handle us leaving just fine.

>Europe would be poorer without Britain’s voice: more dominated by Germany; and, surely, less liberal, more protectionist and more inward-looking

I thought we were the ones who would suffer? Is the writer suggesting Germany aren't MORE liberal than we are? "I don't understand European politics": The Article.

>Europe’s links to America would become more tenuous. Above all, the loss of its biggest military power and most significant foreign-policy actor would seriously weaken the EU in the world

What the fuck is this guy talking about? He believes Europe to be both simultaneously so incompetent it cannot run its own affairs and will become an inward looking recluse whilst also being so great that we will die without it.

> The EU has become an increasingly important part of the West’s foreign and security policy, whether it concerns a nuclear deal with Iran, the threat of Islamist terrorism or the imposition of sanctions against Russia

All reasons why we should leave. It has failed badly in every single respect he just mentioned and has only made things worse.

>Without Britain, it would be harder for the EU to pull its global weight—a big loss to the West in a troubled neighbourhood, from Russia through Syria to north Africa

Excellent reason for us to leave and manage our own affairs.

Really poor article with poor reasoning behind its points. Anybody who reads this and is sitting on the fence will automatically resolve to vote "LEAVE" come the referendum.