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aren't these Santorum type states?

We seem to be seeing a massive turnaround in momentum.

Whether Cruz or Trump, they will both get destroyed by Hillary Clinton in the general election.

>>9864

Kansas could be seen as Evangelical country, a little like Iowa, but Maine definitely is not.

I guess the question now is, will the establishment force Rubio and Kasich to drop out?

>>9870

Only if it is clear that Trump is losing momentum fast, and Cruz has a chance of winning outright.

Either way, Rubio and Kasich will drop out when they lose their home states.

Trump pulling ahead in Kentucky.

>>9874

They have a point on Kansas, but we're seeing something deeper imho. On Maine, I think they're really reaching.

Even if you liked Trump a few weeks ago, your belief in him has to have been shaken in the past few days for multiple reasons if you're honest about it We're seeing a candidate's momentum meltdown fairly late in the election cycle.

>>9870

No

Kasich is in until Ohio for sure, Rubio is stuck in until Florida

>>9876

That last debate honestly destroyed Trump

his flip flopping on immigration, Trump University, and his weak policy responses were a major torpedo to his image

Trump's campaign also has next to no ground game, which is his biggest problem, he's relying on the rallies to try and get people out rather than a solid ground game that people like Cruz have been working on

>>9862

I wonder how much of that was caused by the last two debates and Trump's showing in them or if it is because it's just different state rules in regard to the elections.

>>9870

>I guess the question now is, will the establishment force Rubio and Kasich to drop out?

I'd think the GOPe will ask Rubio and Kasich to broker something at the convention (give up delegates for a cabinet seat/vice presidency with Cruz).

...If it comes to a brokered convention.

I think the GOPe would be fine with any of those candidates as long as they're not Trump.

>>9874

>>9875

>That damage control...

lol

>>9876

>Even if you liked Trump a few weeks ago, your belief in him has to have been shaken in the past few days for multiple reasons if you're honest about it We're seeing a candidate's momentum meltdown fairly late in the election cycle.

A friend of mine asked me to reconsider Trump, I did and I was back on the fence (I would've voted for him if there wasn't a better alternative). But after that last debate and how Trump acted, I'm done with Trump. That debate was the final straw with me.

>Cruz ahead in Maine. 43% to 36.6%

With 12% reporting. Only 3/22 caucuses.

Ted Cruz has just won Maine.

>It was Cruz's second upset victory of the day over Donald Trump. This win came despite the endorsement of Trump by Maine Gov. Paul LePage, who said the New York billionaire could be “one of the greatest presidents.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/politico-breaking-news-cruz-wins-maine-220299

>>9890

So that's...

Cruz: Kansas, Maine

Trump: Leading in Kentucky

Left to Call: Kentucky, Louisiana

>>9892

to add, that's what he says in almost every fucking rally:

"And it’s very unfair to people who go out and do it the way you’re supposed to do it, including me. I think I’m the only one that’s self-funding. I’m the only one putting up my own money, other than – I know it’s precious – people write in to DonaldJTrump.com or whatever and they send me checks like $20. I keep saying the woman for $7.50, $50, $100. I don’t want their money. But if you send it back it’s totally insulting."

If you don't want their money, you can remove the donation page.

>>9898

>If you don't want their money, you can remove the donation page.

You'd think that, wouldn't you?

>>9892

>>9898

Great posts!

>If you don't want their money, you can remove the donation page.

His lack of respect for the truth and fairplay is honestly kind of shocking.

I really think he gets away with so much because he's funny. People watch him do stuff, and rather than call him out on it, they are amused.

>>9899

he loaned himself

>>9901

The video thing that Fox did was great tbh. Seeing is believing.

>>9903

It sounds awful to admit, but some of the stuff on John Oliver's segment was an eye opener for me as well, since only recently have some of these things on Trump been reported.

In 5 days, that video has 18,591,480 views.

Unfortunately, Oliver made a big deal out of the name change from Drumpf to Trump, which was irrelevant to real issues.

>>9904

I know Trump lies a lot, but the donation thing shocked me, I really believed him!

>>9905

I did as well. How could anyone who is supposedly worth $10 billion value the truth so little that they would lie about one of their main selling points?

I agree with you on Fox, btw. All debates should have been as on-point with real data visible to the audience like that one was.

Trump won Louisianan

Trump won Louisiana

>>9904

>which was irrelevant to real issues

That's his main problem.

I still remember his video on the Fifa and what a shoddy organization they were. Really informative and thanks to the way he presented it, also applicaable to somebody that usually has no interest in that kind of thing.

Unfortunatley he went kinda off the deep end, starting to insert useless shit that was totally irrelevant to whatever issue he was talking about and peaked in his "current year" justification if no arguments were to be found.

>>9909

So that's...

Cruz: Kansas, Maine

Trump: Louisiana

Left to Call: Kentucky

>>9911

looks like it's probably going to be Trump

He's 7 up, not sure if they've gotten to the major metro areas though

>>9912

>He's 7 up, not sure if they've gotten to the major metro areas though

Politico has only 41% reporting. So we still have a ways to go. Too close to call.

>>9907

>>9892

You niggers are stupid. The only donations he's taking a individual donations directly to his campaign, which have a legal cap of something like $2,100.

>>9914

Which would be fine, but it doesn't match his rhetoric of the little old lady who gave him $7.59, and he couldn't bear to give it back to her.

Also, are you aware that Trump is mostly paying for his campaign via loan?

>The vast majority of Trump’s contributions to his own campaign — about $12.6 million — are loans rather than donations. This means he could expect to eventually recoup these funds.

>Further, of the approximately $12 million Trump’s campaign spent in 2015, about $2.7 million went toward reimbursing Trump-affiliated companies for services provided to the campaign, such as traveling in his own plane and helicopter, according to a New York Times analysis.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/10/donald-trump/donald-trump-self-funding-his-campaign-sort/

>>9920

How did you end up on 8chan being such a basic bitch liberal? All your talking points are repeating liberal hitpieces, low energy character assassination, or other nonsense. I would just write you off as an anarchokiddie but look at the arguments you're using:

>And Trump University really disturbs me. What multi-billionaire would really want to be involved in something like that?

>He knows nothing about policy, along with all of the other issues.

>Even if you liked Trump a few weeks ago, your belief in him has to have been shaken in the past few days for multiple reasons

>His lack of respect for the truth and fairplay is honestly kind of shocking.

>I did as well. How could anyone who is supposedly worth $10 billion value the truth so little that they would lie about one of their main selling points?

>it doesn't match his rhetoric of the little old lady who gave him $7.59, and he couldn't bear to give it back to her.

>Also, are you aware that Trump is mostly paying for his campaign via loan?

This is literally just shitstirring, with your concern trolling filling up 1/3rd of the thread. Your posts aren't saying anything concrete nor do they have any real substantive points, you're just trying to cast doubt on Trump.

>loans

Does it matter? Is this an issue? Is he not going to be responsible for paying back those loans?

>>9925

>Is he not going to be responsible for paying back those loans?

Making it a loan gives him the opportunity to recoup money spent via donations later on in the campaign.

The rest of your post is low quality, and probably better suited to /pol/.

>>9925

>low energy

>shitstirring

>concern trolling

>you're just trying to cast doubt on Trump.

Just a suggestion...those are trumpcuck talking point memes and they don't work outside of /pol/, where if someone disagrees, you can report them to the mods for a ban.

If you're going to argue in favor of Trump here, you're going to have to do better than that.

I'm not in your country, but if I was, I'd vote for Trump simply because Trump makes the establishment shit scared.

And considering the how the American establishment has been going for the past 15 years, I would consider it the best thing your country could have.

With Hillary a expect a repeat of Obama, giving a strong lecture to you about staying with your sweetheart, then leaving to screw the maid.

Liberals would likely be served better if the Democrats lost, since atm the Democrats barely seem different from the Republicans with the policies they've passed the past 8 years. At least they'd attempt to take the moral high ground again to gain support.

>>9940

I'd say they are scared because Trump is too much of a live wire. He won't go along with anyone else's program.

That doesn't mean that he's steadfast and committed. We already have examples of him going back on things he has said, and just as importantly, Trump doesn't seem to know policy well enough to have really strong convictions. He reaffirmed multiple times that he would kill the families of terrorists, until it was apparently pointed out to him clearly enough that this was a war crime and barbaric.

Trump says a lot of cool things, and it would be nice to believe he's on our side, but who the fuck knows? I would certainly take him over the other Republicans. That doesn't mean I'm under any fucking illusions in regards to him.

>>9947

> I would certainly take him over the other Republicans. That doesn't mean I'm under any fucking illusions in regards to him.

Exactly. poltards don't get this. If you don't praise the "god emperor" 24/7 you are a Hilary shill.

>>9947

>Trump says a lot of cool things, and it would be nice to believe he's on our side, but who the fuck knows? I would certainly take him over the other Republicans. That doesn't mean I'm under any fucking illusions in regards to him.

Absolutely spot on.

Would I love it if the wall was built and Trump kicked out all illegal immigrants? Absolutely!

Do I think either of those things have a snowballs chance in hell of happening when there is a hostile media, a hostile judicial branch of government, a hostile Democrat party and by the time this election is over, a hostile Republican party?

Nope.

And then when one actually looks into things when one doesn't unconditionally support Trump, one finds legitimate things to be concerned about.

>>9892

What amazes me is that this looks like it'll end up a win for Trump's publicity even if he loses the race, thus cementing that his 'ignore negativity' business strategy has actually worked.