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7eb5f7 No.4772

How does it feel to scare away 1000 Unique IPs with your autistic, paranoid, Nazi janitors?

Even /leftypol/ has more freedom than /pol/.

You're a disgrace to 8chan.

6e38c2 No.4773

You've already been unbanned. Weve been in the midst of a gigantic sliding attack the last hour, you were caught in the cross fire.

733ce0 No.4774

>How does it feel to scare away 1000 Unique IPs

What the fuck are you talking about? /pol/ has more users than ever.

>Nazi janitors


At least they aren't SJW's.

eccfb3 No.4776

>>4774
>"users"

733ce0 No.4777

>>4776

Active users I mean.

We dropped down in the rankings for a while because we lost 5 pages of content. We used to have 30 pages instead of 25. The system only counts IP's that have posted in the board in the last three days.

7eb5f7 No.4778

>>4773
>You've already been unbanned.
I've never been banned on /pol/.

>Weve been in the midst of a gigantic sliding attack the last hour

Yeah right.

>>4774
>/pol/ has more users than ever.
>being this delusional
The unique IP count used to be over 4000, now it's about to slip under /v/ again.

>At least they aren't SJW's.

They're nearly as bad, give them time and they'll be equal.

6e38c2 No.4779

>>4778
Well then, I would have to ask you to make an actual argument as to what you feel is being poorly handled here, so that I may address your concerns. Right now I don't know what you're actually complaining about.

I assumed you were complaining about banned, I came over here from approving a ban appeal on some guy that got caught in the sliding crossfire, and figured you were him.

Seriously though, I'm a reasonable person, explain what you think I'm doing wrong and I'll clarify my reasoning.

7eb5f7 No.4780

>>4779
You need to stop the shill paranoia, stop banning people for their opinions, and stop with ridiculously strict rules against question threads. Someone already made >>>/polpol/ to cater to the paranoid idiot crowd.

6e38c2 No.4781

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>>4780
Mate it isn't paranoia. I think if you had seen what has been going on the last few days, you would agree. Ever seen people evade bans within 15 seconds to spam the same message dozens of times in a row? That's what this image is, each of these examples were spammed at least 4 times, some as many as 8 times. Nobody is being banned for opinions, either, just shitposting or bait. If you have specific cases you want to reference then feel free to, and Ill explain my reasoning behind them.

733ce0 No.4782

>>4778

>The unique IP count used to be over 4000


No it didn't. It was always at around 3300 before we lost the pages. Now it's back to normal.

>now it's about to slip under /v/ again


Who gives a fuck?

Just go back to 4cuck already. We aren't going to miss a whiny shitposter who prizes quantity over quality like you.

7eb5f7 No.4784

>>4781
This shit means literally nothing. Since you can't prove any single one is a shill, all you're going to end up doing is carpetbombing and hitting random innocents.

>>4782
Newfag detected. /pol/ was in the 4000s for nearly a month after 2nd exodus.

>Just go back to 4cuck already. We aren't going to miss a whiny shitposter who prizes quantity over quality like you.

I'm here from first exodus, I'm a board owner, and I hate 4chan.

eccfb3 No.4786

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>>4784
>dozens of almost identical posts from an IP that hadn't posted anything on /pol/ before
>Since you can't prove any single one is a shill

Oh boy :^)

733ce0 No.4787

>>4784

>Newfag detected. /pol/ was in the 4000s for nearly a month after 2nd exodus.


Well, good thing it isn't anymore. I didn't check the active users during that time.

All of those cancerous faggots went back to cuckchan when joot 'fixed' cuck/pol/, it had nothing to do with 8/pol/'s moderation. They aren't a big loss if they weren't planning to stay here on long term in the first place. All they were doing was lowering the quality of the discussions.

>I'm here from first exodus, I'm a board owner, and I hate 4chan.


Sure you are. You're such an 'oldfag' that you still use the term "janitors" to refers to board volunteers.

6e38c2 No.4806

>>4784
Do tell me exactly what you consider as "proof" on shilling? You are asking for impossible evidence, a pretty basic logical fallacy to make.

Regular users getting caught in the cross fire is an unfortunate, but necessary, drawback. These people can help themselves by not shitposting, not replying to shitposts, and having a clean posting history. In the event that they get wrongfully banned, I do read ban appeals hourly, and I have no issue with resolving the issue through appeals.

6e38c2 No.4808

>>4786
Ah, and I should add. The majority of the shills had prior bans on record, all for shilling in the past. So unless >>4784 thinks that somehow these people had managed to get 60 different IPs banned for shilling in the past (while being a legitimate user), they were absolutely shills.

ae2efe No.4809

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>>4806

>"So long as you think and feel the way we do, you have no reason to fear the gulags, comrade!"


What you sound like. Just saying. Pic related.

6e38c2 No.4811

>>4809
Go fuck yourself. Im getting sick of hearing the same line without any type of citation or evidence trying to bolster your argument, and you know as well as you do that was a blatant strawman.

You really think this board is stupid enough for your easily recognizable divisive tactics? You really think people are going to think moderation is horrible because a shitposter keeps spamming /polmeta/ about it? While meanwhile the actual board is busier than ever, and filled with more quality postings than ever?

The fact that post numbers are still so high even after my "Nazi Crusade" and rooting out longtime regular shitposters, who have consistently inflated post numbers with trash posts, is proof enough.

ae2efe No.4815

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>>4811

That was quite a fast response. Assuming you aren't using exodus, did I hurt your wittle feels, anon?

>Go fuck yourself. Im getting sick of hearing the same line without any type of citation or evidence trying to bolster your argument


Let me requote you since you don't seem to remember what you posted.

>Regular users getting caught in the cross fire is an unfortunate, but necessary, drawback. These people can help themselves by not shitposting, not replying to shitposts, and having a clean posting history.

>Regular users getting caught in the cross fire
>necessary
> people can help themselves by not shitposting, not replying to shitposts, and having a clean posting history

As I paraphrased…

>"So long as you think and feel the way we do, you have no reason to fear the gulags, comrade!"


>You really think this board is stupid enough for your easily recognizable divisive tactics?


Yes.

>Define Divisive

>Tending to cause disagreement or hostility between people.

I don't even need to try and this will happen. What are you, some sort of faggot that doesn't want disagreement or hostility? This is the meta for a politics board, a board exactly FOR disagreement and hostility (as well as lulz and feels). Stop being a faggot just because we aren't going to be serious 100% of the time, fuckwit. Despite what you want to say, it was hot pockets-tier moderation that killed old /pol/, not the shitposters. Shitposting increases exponentially with the amount of moderation at play. Otherwise the funposting shitposters stay while the baiters and trolls find greener pastures.

>You really think people are going to think moderation is horrible because a shitposter keeps spamming /polmeta/ about it?


>Implying it's just one person

>Implying you aren't doing the exact same thing in other threads trying to damage control for the moderation faggotry

>While meanwhile the actual board is busier than ever


Shitposting and baiting

>filled with more quality postings than ever?


Been here since September, shithead. I'm the prostitute bro and the one who was making lolbertarian generals for a while there. I doubt you even remember when NRx had a foothold over on /pol/ or pic related. When /sen/ was allowed to crosspost on /pol/ without being insta-locked. When /pol/ and /gg/ were pretty much tied at the hip and we were flipping shit because of kingofpol trying to get an interview. Quality has dropped significantly since December, and is only barely starting to come back up (and has yet to hit the levels it was at). This isn't due to mods though, the mods were far less active in December. If anything the mods are to /pol/ right now as Obama is to American oil companies. Keep living in your delusions though.

Hell, I'd screencap the catalog and point out all the shitposting allowed while funposting is being pruned, but my autism hasn't kicked in since I began lifting again, so it's not worth my time.

Us longtime regular shitposters contribute equally to our funposting and to actual discussion. We aren't the ones shouting "JIDF!" we're the ones calling out faggotry while simultaneously being massive fucking faggots for shits and giggles. Believe it or not, some of us come here to have fun and enjoy the feels, not just to bitch about women or niggers or jews 24/7 under the guise of "discussion."


tl;dr- You're a massive faggot and your entire post holds no substance. Go back to licking your cheeto-stained fingers while you press that ban button a couple dozen more times. The board owner of /pol/ only ever actually banned a few people (for pretty much massive spamming) before you fuckers came along and turned this into your "Nazi Crusade" as you have worded it. I have reasons to doubt /pol/'s board owner is even around still (not the original one, anyways).

ae2efe No.4816

Won't be long until we're banning risk threads. polite sage.

6e38c2 No.4818

>>4815
We're clearly not seeing eye to eye, and nothings going to change that. Complaining for the sake of complaining is pointless. Cite some examples of what you think I'm doing wrong through the ban list and board log and we might get somewhere. I'm not going to bother responding to all those unprovable ad-homs.

I do use exodus, but not right now, I have no need to when Im not at work. Its not hard to see replies when I have multiple tabs open and replies show up in tab title.

>>4816
Utterly ridiculous.

86aff9 No.4820

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It's literally just as bad as 4chan mods.

0859ad No.4821

>>4820

Nice context you got there, faggot.

>literally just as bad as 4chan mods

That can't be. Cuckchan mods don't delete any shitposting: >>4116


86aff9 No.4822

>>4821
>Being banned for a month for calling someone stupid

There's literally no other context needed. /pol/ volunteers and mods do it for free.

0859ad No.4823

>>4822
I don't know in which thread you made that post or if this was the only reason that got you banned for. If you are reluctant in telling me, then it's because you have something to hide. I'm going to wait for a mod to come here and give his version of the history in that case then.

c6d2ea No.4833

>>4820
oh hey sup SJW. Don't post about your other posts, the context provided would ruin you.

1b69a3 No.4887

>>4823
Oh god, backseat moderators.

61c608 No.5010

Im just waiting for pol to fail and a new pol to take its place. The majority will eventually realize that all censorship is bad.

aedc7a No.5011

Sure are a lot of confused people here

Let me ask you

Who is better at spotting shills? The mods or the users? At face value neither. A mod could be good or bad, and so could the userbase. /pol/ before the second exodus seemed to have a pretty good mix of mods who could spot shills and users who could spot shills. They also knew what to do about it (in my opinion, sage, report and move on while the user waits for a mod to ban the shill).

What is a shill? That's for another thread but suffice to say that shills are not good for a board.

There are two approaches to the shill. One is banning him outright. The other is countering his posts so that the community knows the topic in discussion more fully or so that the community can better recgonise the shill for next time. Both are valid.


But what happens when the userbase no longer knows what a shill is? It is the job of the moderator, endowed with special talents, to spot and ban them. We should be recruiting mods who are able to spot shills and ban them. There are a lot of people who are butthurt at the power that a mod must have to do this. But a user is not like a mod and lacks his power. If a user is better than the mod at spotting shills, then they should become the mod.

tl;dr we need more mods of better quality to combat shills. Do you really think it is a practical solution to educate the vast majority of users on /pol/ to be able to spot shills? The answer is, of course, no.

6e38c2 No.5012

If you guys are so interested in that 28 day ban, its other posts consisted of mocking users for having opinions it disagreed with, shitposting unironically, and calling users who believed in nationalism "Racists (complete with mid-sentence capitalization), "bigots" and "stormweenies". This was also the same night I banned 4 other SJWs making similar shitposts, so I felt reasonably sure it was a part of a raid or IRC/skype/IM link by SJWs. I make sure to call this thing an "it", as I could have no way of telling, but I'd imagine it is either a dumb cunt, a faggot white-knight, or tranny scum. I don't know which is worse.

You have to do something really stupid over a multitude of posts to get a 28 day ban from me, and that's what happened here.

>>5010
>S-stop banning me for shitposting!

06fced No.5053

>>5012
> its other posts consisted of mocking users for having opinions it disagreed with, shitposting unironically, and calling users who believed in nationalism "Racists (complete with mid-sentence capitalization), "bigots" and "stormweenies"

I don't see a problem with this.

53cc65 No.5054

>>5053
Triggered the mods therefore DING DONG BANNU

6e38c2 No.5056

>>5054
Sure thing dedicated contrarian poster, nobody is going to give a shit if you don't believe this ban was justified, because objectively, it was.

600e0c No.5058

Yeah, nazi janitors allowing constant slide thread sand RIDF shilling :^)

1f32d1 No.7865

>>4772

>Even /leftypol/ has more freedom than /pol/.

>

>You're a disgrace to 8chan.

so post there


0af21e No.9292

>>5054

So just like Tumblr…


927de4 No.9300

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>>5012

I told you about them /int/olerants

well handled


b2fe67 No.9382

>>4772

>says we are a "disgrace" to an online image board like it's an insult

>calls other people autistic

Do you even read your posts OP?


f48dd2 No.9384

>>9382

>Responding to an OP that posted in February.

What are you sliding, anon?

I'd sage this to stop sliding further but the field won't load.


727bbb No.9388

>>4773

Fuck off, faggot. You're the laziest fucking janitor I've ever seen because you hit the ban button as soon as someone hurts your feelings. Go back to Reddit.


8e4311 No.9390

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2dca2e No.9391

>>4772

It feels great and I'm not even janny


000000 No.9392

hey mods you need to ban porn on /pol/ in order to get more unique IPs


8e4311 No.9393

>>9392

the mods must go >>>/r9k/69413


8e4311 No.9422

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b93310 No.9464

this board is beyond saving

this site will be to unless something is done about the abyssmal moderation

STOP STICKYING 500 THREADS YOU FUCKING MORON


823b2c No.9465

>>9464

You've just got your whore feelings hurt because your threads are all shit and don't get stickied.


9e2fad No.9467

>>4811

>Go fuck yourself. Im getting sick of hearing the same line

Looks like someone got triggered. I wonder who's behind it?

Seriously, /pol/ is fucked thanks to fucking stormfags, shills and some newfags from plebbit and cuckchan. A proper moderation could easily solve most of the problems they cause by fucking doing their job, but instead it's of course much more easy to simply let the mrun wild and sometimes even encourage them.

>>9465

That's a problem all by itself. Threads are supposed to be kept alive by anons. if it's interessting and discussions are going on it naturally will stay up. A sticky should only be made if it's board related ot mods think that a certain topic needs more exposure.

But having almost the whole first page full of stickies with x-tier bullshit topics is extremly contraproductive.

Important/interesting shit get's slid off the first page and might slowly die what otherwise could've been a very active thread.


6ae931 No.9468

I was banned for making a pedo shaming thread that didn't break any rules. The mod's reason was ">>>/b/"

I think it's safe to say /pol/, and as a result 8chan, is dead. It's sad to see that the mods have been subverted.


21e7ed No.9477

>>9468

yet /pol/ remains the second most active board on 8chan.

Hmm. I guess the mods are doing something right.

Stay salty ;)


6ae931 No.9486

>>9477

Because this board is comprised mostly of politically minded people that left 4chan after the gamergate/cuckening shit?

Also, there are 700 less users than /pol/ had about 11 months ago. So yes, the board is slowly dying.

Stay without an argument, kampfy ;)

P.S. you were just entirely BTFO'd and we both know you will not respond because of how humiliated you have been


5c354e No.9490

>>9477

>lucky enough to get one of the biggest political forums on the internet rendered unusable for a whole month

>positioned in such a way to be able to take in all thousands of refugees, so many that 8chan servers crashed

>somehow managed to lose almost a third of it's users

wew lad, /pol/ mods truly are the Ubermensch of our time


62681c No.9494

>>5053

it's manipulative mind control

for example whore feelings guy


62681c No.9495

>>9477

quality before quantity




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