/polpol/ - Politically Incorrect Discussion

>>10859
Russian Jews involved in the Holodomor:

>Lazar Kaganovich:
Stalin's political figurehead of the Central Committee. In 1928, Kaganovich led the implementation of Stalin's first Five-Year Plan in Ukraine. The aim of Stalin's first Five-Year Plan in Ukraine was to destroy family farms through mass starvation making the peasants "landless" and thereby introducing "collectivzation" by which the Ukrainian peasants were forced to become employees of the state. This forced famine reach its crises point in 1932.

>Genrihk Yagoda:
Founder of the NKVD (Soviet Secret Police). Assisted in the first Five-Year Plan of starving Ukrainian peasants.

>Nikolai Yezhov:
Appointed by Yagoda as Head of the NKVD. Assisted in the first Five-Year Plan of starving Ukrainian peasants. (Yezhov took on a "Russian" name like most Bolshevik Jews. His wife was a politically active Jew).

These Bolshevik Jews seized livestock, crops, grain, and farm implements from the Ukrainian peasants. Any Ukrainian citizen who resisted them was shot. Desperate Ukrainian clergy and peasants ate anything to survive: bugs, grass, and leather shoes.

Never forget the Jewish slaughter of Ukrainian, Belarussian and Russian Slavs.

Russians not only stole the food they also stole every tool related to the creation of food/basic resource of the farmers and forced every young man to join the army just to throw them as cannon fodder in the Finn front, obviously killing anyone who resisted (communism ho!).

Ukrainians received the nazis as heroes and liberators when they first arrived.

And people wonder why the Ukrainians don't like the Russians.

First and foremost, people should understand to distinct Russia and USSR, and Im already tired of explaining this hundred times.
Russia was rules by Russian Tsars, USSR had barely any Russians on the leading positions.

>Essentially, ethnic Ukrainian farmers were banned from eating or selling their own produce.
As well as every other people who weren't in the major cities. Soviets fucked up and tried to grow the cities , but it was the farmers that payed the price.

>The majority of Ukraine's food supply was shipped back to Muscovy.
Actually shipped to few major cities. Also don't understand why are you using Muscovy as a term. Only Ukrainians use Muscovy, and I can assure you they are one of the most subjective people when it comes to history.


>They left people to starve and drop in the streets
Yes they did. And guess what, it was everyone, I repeat everyone.

Im fucking tired of seeing the same shit over and over, about some fake Lenin-created nation bitching about stuff from which everyone suffered. Everyone suffered under this regime, it wasn't targeted at Ukrainians.

>>10895
And again, USSR = Russia…. Please tell me , when was the 1st time USSR got a Russian leader?

>>10901
I wonder, explain it to me.

A long time ago in a galaxy far away (probably shortly after the Soviet Union broke up) I was randomly listening to NPR and they were interviewing an old Ukrainian lady and she talked about how happy everyone was when the Germans came through and broke up the collective farms and gave everyone their cows back. I remember wondering "who let that slip through the cracks?"

>>10912
> They use the Russian minority that THEY installed as part of their Russianization policy as the justification to oppress the Ukrainian people once again.

We have 3 threads about the Ukraine war half of which are links and citation, that disprove what you said…. Are you trolling us?

>Ukraine wants to sign deal with EU
>Russia gives better deal
>Ukraine choses Russia
>Pro-EU revolt, because they aren't happy with the current government
>Succeed
>Pro-Rus revolt revolt, because they aren't happy with the current government
>Russia is trying to control them!!!!

Also sorry to dissapoint you , but only a person with no knowedge of Eastern Europe can claim what you said. Do you even know what Ukraine means? Let me spoonfeed you Ukraine - У Крайна - At/In ( the ) Borderline.

Borderline of what? Of the Russian border ofcourse….

>I can't believe an authoritarian oligarchy headed by a blatant dictator is permitted these days
And now Im sure you're trolling….

>>10912
No. The jews pay for the modern Ukrainian "nationalists" that made a pro-US coup. And Russian will not allow NATO near their borders, like the US had promissed NOT to do.

And the Russians in Ukraine were not part of the Russianization policy, they are colonists from when the Tartars fled. They were Russian territories no part of the Ukraine before the 50's.

Jewish Oligarchs like Igor Kolomoisky pay for Azov Battalion and Pravy Sektor, which are supposedly neo-nazi and nationalists.

>>10919
Yeah this. He must just be joking. Heh.

>>10904
Because Russians were filthy communists and there is no amount of hamster rationing can change it, just like Germans were all "natzis".
Get it?
Kike propaganda lasts forever without change.

*Soviet, not society

>>10859
>>10859
>jews

This is done because otherwise people might start wondering if the Holocaust is truly the biggest disaster ever.

>>10932
>Open your eyes.

9/11

I'll ask again, if you fail yet again to asnwer, this will prove to me that you are seriusly trolling me - When was the 1st time USSR got a Russian leader.

>>10942

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin

Lenin was Russian born, and Russian bred. What more do you want?

>>10943
>Nobody paid for Maidan.
>and a total puppet to the Russian government.
>on top of the fact that they've already invaded

Still ignoring the 3 threads with hundreds of evidence claiming otherwise?

You even fucking contradict yourself:
> potential Russian military intervention
> they've already invaded

Im out of here. Im all for the discussion about how people in the USSR had to suffer, because of communism, but Im not gonna listen lies about how USSR was controlled by Russians or the total bullshit you just said about the Ukraine war.

>>10905
How long have you 'known'? As in being /pol/-tier knowledgeable of true history. Its just interesting to me since you clearly are older than in the twenties, whereas I'm in the twenties.

>>10949
>using ziopedia
Here, truthful information: http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Lenin

>>10949
>>10955
You even deleted your own comment, because you realised that people would discover you were trolling? Nice.

>>10963
>truthful

That's the problem I have with many /pol/acks. You understand that wikipedia has a bias, and therefore dismiss it and go to the exact oposite, in this case metapedia, which is ten times as biaised as kikepedia but without any viable sources.

WHat's important to now about Lenin is that he was used as a tool by WW1 Germany to kill Russia, and win the war. Germany lost, but Lenin did his job as planned.

Many stormfags believe that the whole USSR was in fact a jewish conspiracy. This is a lie. Jews from everywhere had an influence in the russian revolution, the menscheviks were mostly jews and Stalin's first government was 85% jewish. But Stalin hated zionists, and killed many of them. most of the jews working under Stalin were Bolscheviks, and didn't hesitate to kill other jews over their ideals.

>>11437

>stormfags

Please stay on /pol/ if you're going to use these shitty buzzwords here.

I don't think anyone but a very tiny minority of the userbase here actually visits stormfront. It's an FBI honeypot after all.

>>11437
>Jews from everywhere had an influence in the russian revolution, the menscheviks were mostly jews and Stalin's first government was 85% jewish. But Stalin hated zionists, and killed many of them. most of the jews working under Stalin were Bolscheviks, and didn't hesitate to kill other jews over their ideals.
How does any of this discredit the USSR being a Jewish conspiracy?

>stormfags
Stop using JIDF lingo, idiot.

>>11437
>>11446
>Stop using JIDF lingo, idiot.
its called shitposting anon
get used to it as polpol remains on the top 25