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File: 1430165801846.jpg (62.51 KB, 590x490, 59:49, ukraine-russia.jpg)

c9e3f7 No.13963

So what happens now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWX7mJWtDK0

Even the EU and USA which ( most likely ) sponsored the protests which lead to the government replacement , are now slowly trying to distance themselfs.

As we know, few days ago the conflict again escalated. NovRus blames Ukraine, Ukraine blames NovRus, and shelling in the furthest districts in Donetsk continued, which pretty much means that the peace treaty is broken.

Again EU and NATO are now trying to distance themsefs:

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-push-peacekeepers-funds-eu-summit-033056681.html

>Ukraine's pro-Western President Petro Poroshenko called on the EU officials "to deploy an international peacekeeping mission in our country which will contribute to the complete fulfilment of the Minsk accords".

>Kiev's European and US allies are reluctant to send weapons or troops to Ukraine for fear of escalating the conflict, which has damaged their relations with Moscow.

I really like this one, its almost as if they say "You're on your own, but hey if you manage to not fuck up even more, we might accept you ;) "

>"You have a powerful enemy, but you also have a lot of friends. You can count on their help, but it will not be enough unless you yourself change Ukraine," Tusk, a former Polish prime minister, said in Ukrainian on arrival in Kiev.

As for the fighting situation, while Ukraine is trying to pusk from North and West into Donetsk, and trying to encircle it, there seem to be fighting near Maripol

>The OSCE said its monitors had witnessed "the most intense shelling" near the flashpoint town of Shyrokyne since fighting began there in mid-February, as well as movement of heavy weapons.

>Throughout Sunday they "observed sporadic to continuous exchanges of fire involving small arms, machine gun, rocket propelled grenade and automatic grenade launcher," it said in a statement.

>Shyrokyne lies a few kilometres (miles) from the port of Mariupol, the biggest city still under government control in the conflict zone.

This here is interesting:

>Separatists have threatened a new offensive against Mariupol after commemorations of the Soviet Union's victory in World War II on May 9 are out of the way.

If they do it they might succeed , but that would mean that the blame for the escalation would be put on them.

few more links to back up whats said above:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ukraine-president-petro-poroshenko-eu-officials-discuss-reforms-in-kiev-1430132684

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32478933

http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-european-union-summit-/26980087.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/27/us-ukraine-crisis-eu-idUSKBN0NI1RM20150427

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Not to mention that Ukraine has fallen deep by taking money from the International Jew.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/88065c38-eccd-11e4-a81a-00144feab7de.html#axzz3YXfvPkCM

>Ukreximbank’s $750m bond is the first due for repayment out of 29 bonds and loans that Ukraine hopes to renegotiate over the next four years.

>One year on from the annexation of Crimea by Russia, Ukraine remains beset by problems that include a falling currency, dwindling foreign reserves and continued violence in the east.

http://rt.com/business/253385-ukraine-economy-recovery-nbu/

>Ukraine’s economic recession has hit its bottom and the government is expecting gradual recovery starting from the second quarter of 2015, according to the head of Ukraine’s National Bank Valeria Gontareva.

>The Bank claims the overall decline in real GDP will be 7.5 percent in annual terms in 2015, predicting at the same time the resumption of GDP growth by 3 percent for 2016.

I kinda doubt it. They're still including Donetsk region which really shouldn't, since they don't know if they'll ever get it back.

http://rt.com/business/248493-ukraine-creditors-debt-imf/

>Ukraine has to pay about $10 billion to service its debt this year, including corporate and sovereign loans and bonds. The total debt of Ukraine is currently estimated at $50 billion. Public sector debt rose to 71 percent of Ukraine’s gross domestic product, and is due to rise to 94 percent of GDP in 2015, according to the National Bank of Ukraine.

6ab7cf No.13979

>>13963

Russia sucks, it sucked before communism.

I am interested in the most recent happenings in glorious Україна.


80651c No.13982

>>13979

>implying Ukraine isn't just as bad

That's what I don't understand about people who prefer Ukraine over Russia. They have and always will be Russia's bitch. The word 'Ukraine' means 'outskirts'

They're virtually the same, and for some reason, Ukrainians seem to think that they're any better than Russians, when most of the time, they're probably even worse


c9e3f7 No.13986

File: 1430197244074.png (279.79 KB, 1547x1041, 1547:1041, 2014_pro-Russian_unrest_in….png)

>>13979

Then please contribute and state why you think that, or give us some infomation about the recent happenings.

If you're one of the people who just goes "RUSSIA IS EVIL / PUTIN IS JEW XDDD" without even trying to have discussion , please return to /pol/,

>>13982

There isn't really. All the people who support Ukraine probably haven't followed any of the recent events. Some of polacks are too retarded to spend few minutes researching and just side with Ukraine, because they have few "neo-nazi" groups, which as stated in the previous 3 threads are most likely jew-controlled.

Also here are the older Ukraine war threads:

1st one:

>>861

2nd:

>>2260

3rd:

>>3338

Also for all the newcommers I suggest you check the other threads and follow this map:

http://militarymaps.info/


1641c5 No.13993

I'm interested in the topic but really with the fucking vast amount of shilling online and offline, I have idea what to think.

Personally, I'm leaning towards Ukraine but don't take my word for anything.


c9e3f7 No.13997

>>13993

The only thing to do is just compare both stories.

Since you , like most of us probably live in the western world you get the pro-ukrainian one. Meaning you get only one side. If you always check both sides you get a much more accurate picture.

Either way, if you're interested I strongly suggest you see the last 3 Ukraine war threads.


b4183c No.13998

>>13993

I pretty much have the exact same problem with the conflict, I'm trying to stay away from pro-anything articles and keep more to the facts, but even that proves hard. I can't say I particularly like Russia with their anti-revisionism, but as a European nationalist I can't say I like the US and what it pushes either. Tough times.

What are the best ways of keeping up with Ukraine happenings? I've been told that Mark Galeotti usually shares interesting things on twitter, but don't particularly know anything aside from that.


c77096 No.14016

Why make another thread on this? Nothing new has happened.


3dd245 No.14029

Pro-NATO slide thread


c9e3f7 No.14033

>>14029

What? How is this pro-nato? This place is really going downhill… we joined /polpol/ to avoid people who just scream "shills!!!1!! xD" and to avoid trolls in favor of having discussions. And you just came here to type this, without even wanting to have any discussion and without even reading anything I've said , what the fuck are you even doing here if you're gonna act like a typical /pol/ user? And the irony is that if you at least read something from what I've said you would've known im pro-russian


382e62 No.14035

The tension in Ukraine was pretty tense last I checked, with all those military exercises near or around Ukraine and with Syria now sometimes I think someones' gonna snap.


5a65a7 No.14037

>>13998

>What are the best ways of keeping up with Ukraine happenings?

http://thesaker.is/ blog is good.


382e62 No.14088

Canada Talks Ukraine at Arctic Council

https://archive.is/LrEy6

>Russia’s Minister of Natural Resources Sergey Donskoy voiced his concerns about Canada’s promotion of its agenda on Ukraine at the Arctic Council.

>In fact, chair of the Arctic Council Leona Aglukkaq of Canada expressed her concerns directly to Donskoy about the situation in Ukraine.

>Sputnik News reported that Donskoy felt like Canada was creating obstacle for the “promotion of international cooperation in the Arctic.”

Same article gives some context:

>Drawn from the Arctic Council website, its definition clearly demonstrate how military affairs are not a concern.

>Talking about military affairs, especially outside the Arctic region, is forbidden. Even if the Russia-Canada relations are at its lowest in years, Aglukkaq should’ve kept her opinion for herself and work toward a tighter cooperation for the Arctic between both countries.

Canada is continuing too push the envelope and is worsening it's relationship with Russia, posted this mainly because of Canada's relation with China, which is allied with Russia.

Quit poking the bear.


80651c No.14101

>>13986

Did you even read my post?


382e62 No.14136

House committee approves $200 million for arming Ukraine

https://archive.is/e4pEq

>Citing an anti-Russia policy brief, US lawmakers approved $200 million for providing “lethal weapons of a defensive nature” to the Ukrainian government as part of the $600 billion Pentagon budget proposal for the fiscal year 2016.

>The House Armed Services Committee passed its proposal for the 2016 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) with a bipartisan vote of 60 to 2, in what Defense News described as a “marathon” session that ended around 4:30am on Thursday.

>Section 1532 of the 498-page document calls for the US to provide assistance, “including training, equipment, lethal weapons of a defensive nature, logistics support, supplies and services, and sustainment to the military and national security forces of Ukraine” through the end of September 2016.

>In addition to the $200 million allocated for the program, the proposal also authorizes the Pentagon to “accept and retain contributions, including in-kind contributions, from foreign governments.”


382e62 No.14137


c9e3f7 No.14143

>>14101

Yeah, why? I pretty much agreed with what you said.

>>14136

Im sure this will backfire at them for 2 reasons:

So far most of Ukraine's attacks don't suffer a lot of casualties but they almost always end up loosing equipment and armored vehicles and even tanks which go to the hands of NAF.

Also now that US is publicly aiming Ukraine, Russia can publicly aim the rebels - "If the United States does it, why can't we"




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