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7cdc42 No.14770

As corporations have taken over the place of feudal overlords, the concept of "nation" has become diluted. Whereas once the concept of land, which was inextricably linked to the wealth of the elites lording over a particular tract of land, called a "nation," was their primary revenue source – and therefore necessary to protect, the agrarian societies which developed these kingdoms – and ultimately nations, have withered in the winds of change blown by the smoke of factories and the industrial and post-industrial ages.

Wealth tied to land is no longer the primary way in which elites hold their power. The concept of the "corporation" has overtaken the role of feudal overlord. Thus, it is not necessary for elites to protect tracts of land that were once the source of their incomes as feudalistic overlords, but instead, the ethereal concept of corporations allow the elite to amass wealth without the need of national boundary.

This means, it no longer is in the elites' interest to preserve nations and nationalities, but rather pursue markets or markets of consumers.

Thus, it is logical to see the creation of a the European Union, TPP, etc. to promote "free trade" which inexorably helps a corporation's (and the elite shareholders') bottom line.

In the post-industrial age, the backwards concept of "nationalism" is a joke when the elites that disproportionately own most of the world's wealth don't care about "nationality" simply because broader "multinational" and "multicultural" markets create a broader consumer base to increase their revenue stream.

It all comes down to money. That's why I generally consider the fight is futile. But please, discuss with me why I may be wrong.

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tl;dr - Read the whole thing.

e8dd78 No.14775

>>14770

If I understand you correctly, you're maintaining that nationalism is the hallmark of a bygone age, and that the power structures of the world have undergone a paradigm shift so as to facilitate globalism. You're correct in your analysis. Despite this, resistance against cosmopolitanism is necessary.

From an economic perspective, the prevailing thought is that as free trade engulfs the world, the movement of capital will increase, markets will evolve in the darwinian sense to become far more competitive, and the general ability of the world to "produce", pound-for-pound, will rise, and with it so too will our material living standards. This is high school economics.

What is not taught is this simple consequence of high-school economics: if the primary intervention in a market by governments is to ensure society's well-being, and governments cannot operate globally, the logical next step after globalising the market is to globalise the governments. This is where it all falls to pieces. Governments operating on such a scale would. without a doubt, fall to tactless bureaucracy, to the point that the common good would suffer tremendously, and the government defeats its own purpose. We cannot simply accept globalism, because it fails to see the forest for the trees. This is thinking purely in economic terms and models.

You must understand that life is struggle, and you will die as you lived. Will you stand, or kneel?


7cdc42 No.14788

>>14775

I posit this question as an answer. Yes, resistance helps, however – did tribes not evolve into kingdoms. Did not kingdoms involve into nations? Natons – because of economic necessity – will become parts of super-nations, like the EU.

Like it or not, economics dictate the future of borders. Look at Germany before unification in the 19th century and all the tariffs between small kingdoms and principalities.

Is it not simply "progress" to move beyond the concept of "nation" to the "super-nation" a la EU or United States?


358279 No.14808

>>14788

I fear with things like the TPP giving Corporations more power, there might even be large, multinational corporations who supersede even the UN


a9fe3b No.14809

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>>14770

>MUHHH DEFEATISM


e8dd78 No.14814

>>14788

I'm posting on a different device, but in essence, as you imply, all "progress" is not good progress.

Firstly, you must understand the seat of power. Power will always rest with the people, purely because of their number. If the great masses subscribe to a system, then the power resides in the system. If the system is subverted, then the power resides with the saboteurs.

Yet, all it takes is for the people to rescind the system, and the masters lose power. It is true, they make this perhaps the most difficult task in life, to rebuke modernity and collectively form new spheres of power and government, but it is not impossible. The fate of all things is a cyclical notion; rise and fall is embedded into the tapestry of the universe. So long as power is consolidated in the hands of the tyrants, you can be sure that its imminent removal, while certainly postponable, is nevertheless impending. Global hegemony begets this, one only has to see: why else are we here, if not to learn and fight?

You should note that my forecasts for a globalised world have been well underway for at least a century; you yourself indicated the amalgamation of German states. But, as I have said, these are superficial ties, supported by a system of convenience and luxury for the consumers born and bred. So long as fire breathes in men's chests, an extant tyranny is impossible.


7e4d28 No.14818

>>14814

Which is why there is so much work today to extinguish or at least lessen that very flame.


ee79d2 No.14836

>>14770

Your ancestors never dropped a fight and we stand today because of them.

If you pull yourself out of the rut this society has made you to believe nothing is possible and do so you will continue in the name of all that has fallen before you. Rise out of the ashes nigga.


01f828 No.14839

>>14775

Marxist theory espouses that nationalism is a passing phase as well. In 1945 and 1991, it seemed that it would die. Today, nationalism as an ideology is stronger than any point in the past 70 years.




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