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d6ac2e No.14901

Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel and create a new state, why do we not simply talk about reverting to successful states that already existed with new protections in place to keep them alive longer?

I know lots of people here like to hold up Nazi Germany as their favorite system, but, let's talk about some non Nazi states that could also be used as models for a successful white nation.

For me, I think Southen Rhodesia / Rhodesia and pre Civil War America (with strict immigration controls) were excellent states that afforded their citizens a very high quality of life, and, generally,afforded their citizens the freedoms to enjoy their life and pursue whichever goals they personally believed in.

Remember there is no perfect system or state. What are some other states we should be holding up as good systems?

e76334 No.14931

South Africa before nignog takeover, hands down.

Haven't read too deeply into it, but the Estado Novo looks good from the outside, catapulting Portugal out of the Feudal age, and Salazar was voted the greatest Portuguese of all time.


caebbe No.14936

Well first, you have to remember that Fascism/National Socialism was always an adaptive system. Germany's Reich was very different to Mussolini's Italy, which was very different to the concepts in Mosley's fascism for Britan, or Lincoln Rockwell's plans for the American Nazi Party and so on and so forth.

That's because Fascism/NS is based around Volk, or the spirit and bloodline of the people (of which the two are intimately connected), and that spirit and general feeling is always going to vary from nation to nation and peoples to peoples.

That said, I think a more directly socialist nation can work for some of the Scandinavian countries, providing they have a homogenous population with little social change, and it was how Sweden harmoniously worked until the jewish takeover. Athens and their style of direct democracy seemed to work well and I can admire the grand ideal they strived for, but once again it only functioned with a small population of homogenous and well-educated individuals, and whilst the early days of American democracy is often desired for, but it isn't sustainable in the slightest, and is completely unworkable now with strict upper echelons of conniving kikes, and lower echelons of idiotic blacks and white trash that follow every government whim.


b02ce9 No.15018

>>14936

>the early days of American democracy is often desired for, but it isn't sustainable in the slightest, and is completely unworkable now with strict upper echelons of conniving kikes, and lower echelons of idiotic blacks and white trash that follow every government whim

I couldn't disagree more. First of all, on sustainability, the American form of government showed no signs of being unsustainable on its own merits, and, only after, warfare from within began to warp. A war also brought down National Socialism as well as many other systems. With the backing of a strong military force (the weak military force of the south was nearly able to propel the stronger north,) there is no evidence to suggest it was an unsustainable system, in fact, it was a thriving system.

As for the Jews and other less than desirable races within a system. First of all, we are talking white nationalism, and we are assuming a white state. But, let's say, for example, we just take the current demographics of any Western nation, the early United States had an excellent apartheid like system (even well after the Civil War in the south) which very easily dealt with the problem of undesirables influencing the society in their poisonous ways.) This system is extremely sustainable, it led very successful nations in South Africa and Rhodesia, and is the reason Jews have worked as hard as they could to undo the tenets of such a state.

Which brings us to the Jews. A race that has never been able to compete with the white man on equal footing. Without the government doing the Jews bidding for them, throughout history white people have taken it into their own hands to limit the Jews in their societies and kick the Jews out of regions and towns. Jews are still unwelcome in many rural American towns, it is the state, as a representation of the Jews, that allows Jews the power to express their conniving nature.

There will always be conniving people in any state. Many will naturally be washed out by the society as the people reject them, during that process new conniving groups will appear on both sides. This is a reality of the human condition and human society. There is no way to have 100% perfect state. But it is when the state works in hand with those who are of a conniving nature so as to further the benefits of both groups, do we see the disaster of today. Without the state, the Jews stand no chance against the white man, which is exactly why the North had to invade the South and end state autonomy during the 1800's.


cb7f17 No.15031

>>14901

Using an example from the past won't work, as people will just focus on its failures.




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