/polpol/ - Politically Incorrect Discussion

It is quite silly. I think there's some shilling going on, but also while after every election people say they are done with it, then comes along some TV personality to make them forget all over again

This is democracy…

>>15663

It's amazing. I think I feel my eyes opening a bit. The way that even those among us who are wise to the ruses allow themselves to be so easily rused… It's absolutely fascinating. So few are those who can hold onto their ability to critically think, and even fewer are those who do such and are able to forge a decent living and family in this jewified world. I'm at the point where I'm starting to think that the elite, evil as they may be, are right the vast majority of our species is fucking useless and once their usefulness has passed they don't deserve the air they breathe…. I'm getting counter red pilled.. The kikes have perfected their art.

I don't understand why anyone cares about these American candidates, they're all the same and told to do the same shit.

it's only going to get worse from now on. Even after the election is done I don't see any improvement happening in terms of quality of the board.

I think 8/pol/ can already be considered halfchan 2.0 at this point. Some threads get deleted or bumplocked while other threads filled with shitposting or spam can stay on the first 3 pages all day.

It makes no sense.

>>15662

No, this is it. The jews win, we must give up

We're excited that immigration became a topic of national discussion once again. No one thinks Trump is a savior, but he's a step forward.

Mass immigration is irreversible, so those of us who actually want to deal with the problem see Trump as the best option available.

I still don't understand the argument against Trump from a nationalist perspective. We let an open borders/amnesty advocate become president because Trump is dishonest?

>>15680

>Actually deal with the problem

>By putting hope in another to change it

That's how religion works.

Trump won't work cause nobody you elect through this system will ever help you, or have you forgotten last election? And every single election before that too, mind you.

>>15683

No one else has run primarily on an anti-immigration platform. This can be a game changer for us in the same way Obama was a game changer for socialists.

>>15688

In Australia the last prime-minister promised to "stop the boats" and other pointless shit. Of course once that party got in they've stopped some boats and fucked the country. I'm pretty sure the same thing is happening in the UK atm as well.

Putting hope in someone else saving you is what will fuck you and is how people have been ruled for a long time. No-one is coming to save you.

/Pol/ just wants to be entertained, no reason to go full ballistic ITT.

Trump is something nice for a change, a little less sucky puppetshow

>>15662

The irony is people expect a man with serious foreign ties to promote isolation. Trump may be many things but he's first and foremost a businessman. He'd probably sell his daughter if it was beneficial. His first daughter married a Jew, at least he's an orthodox Jew, but still. I wouldn't be surprised if he did accept a deal from the Democrats that would split the Republican vote so that the Democrats got control. It's sad that people actually believe Trump cares about America, there's too much evidence to the contrary, and it isn't even the case that he cares about another country more, he's just like most people in power, self-absorbed. Trump would never sacrifice anything of his for the greater good of the country, and that's why he would not be a great leader. If you want to rule an empire, and rule it well you gotta be willing to sacrifice.

I'm honestly shocked when I step into those threads. It's like I'm not even on /pol/ anymore.

>>15762

>It's like I'm not even on /pol/ anymore

Nah, it's exactly like being on /pol/. It's like that image says that /pol/ is funnier than its enemies, /pol/ isn't about serious discussion, it's about dank memes, and happenings. That's why a lot of people are there. Okay, after the second exodus it got a lot worse, but still /pol/ has been about the memes for a long time, even /new/ was like that though you'd have to ask someone more versed on the early years than me.

But, that's why we're here, because we actually want a discussion, a little less dank memes and more thought. Because, in a world obsessed with memes the truly revolutionary idea is to walk away from them. Though you might argue that the world has always been obsessed by dank memes, but that's another thread.

>>15769

It's saddening to see it in such a state after how it was for a while after /pol/ got created on here. I may simply be romanticising it too much, but it doesn't even seem to have that much information on it anymore, even.

Additionally, and though this is a stupid question, what happened to /news+/? Stopped paying attention to board politics a while ago and was wondering how that had developed.

I believe Trump when he says politicians don't even have talks and would rather simply throw money at the situation. Trump's main strength is his ability to make great deals with other countries. He wanted to invade and take ISIS oil fields, raise taxes that China has to pay to America, and ramp up sanctions on Iran until they fold under pressure. The Jews would have lots of money to give as a reward for keeping the Muslims down.

Tell me why this isn't a great strategy for keeping social security afloat for all the old bloaks voting for him.

>>15773

This thread was pretty good:

https://8ch.net/pol/res/2708881.html

It was the best of /pol/ it was the worst of /pol/.

You can sort of see where and how 8/pol/ changed in just this thread alone. Was it the shilling, was it the autism, there's too many variables and we can't conflate them.

As for /n/ it started out as a news board, then a couple of months ago it was taken over by /leftypol/ and a tripfag, now it's just a bunch of bait articles and shitposting.

>>15774

Look if an actual politician would say and do that it'd be one thing, but Trump is Trump; he can talk the talk but can he walk the walk. A politician wouldn't say what he's saying because they do what's politically expedient. He as businessman wouldn't do what the politicians do because he does what is economically expedient. What sort of person do you want running your country?

>>15776

That thread is really revealing. Shame with how well it started. Guess all we know for certain with that many variables is how the end product has been.

And thanks, didn't know. Can't say it surprises me, to be honest.

>>15782

It's like with all things there's a pile of shit and you gotta dig for the gold. The more shit that's piled on the more you gotta dig. Sometimes you can get a good thread back under control, other times you gotta take it behind the barn and put a bullet in its head. It's like how we can have a fairly decent discussion about Trump without everything becoming a circle jerk. /pol/ has 2000+ active people that thread has 69 UIDs and the about the same amount of posts as that Jewish Lobbying sticky thread; yet, the stickied thread has 50% more people in it. When it comes to coherent discussion more voices don't create better content.

>>15714

>he did accept a deal from the Democrats that would split the Republican vote so that the Democrats got control

Considering his ties with Hillary and his stance that he'll run independent if the GOP blocks him out(which they will) It's not looking good

>>15671

This. Every thread about the leak of the government co attack software had been bump locked while 'im a grille and my Nigger bf got me pregnant what do?' Is surfing page 2-3…

8/pol/ has been successfully subverted exactly the same way that half/pol/ was subverted, mod infiltration + Reddit exodus.

It's a shame that no one has yet figured a way to foster mass discussion of the truth while keeping shitposters, shills and corruptible mods in check

>>15662

All the candidates are shit. Trump is the least shit. All I want him to do is get in there, rip, tear, and trigger some liberals.

>>15807

You bring up a good point about the mods that I forgot to mention. If there were better mods the shit would be more easily controlled, instead they serve as some sort of Politburo.

I think the history of 8ch can be modeled by the US and Australia. First the founding fathers rebelled for something they believed in, and it was good; then, ships full of criminals came and that's who mainly populated our island. Now we serve as a jail island, a containment zone, where we make meaningless threats against each other in the yard. There is no debate or reason in the yard, just the Aryan Brotherhood, the Bloods, the Crips, MS-13 and all that other shit. It's just a good thing that we can carve our own little patch on the island instead of interacting with the general population.

>>15811

>All I want him to do is get in there, rip, tear, and trigger some liberals.

That's what he's going to do, then when he only gets say 20ish% of the vote, he'll make his points on immigration look like they're held by a minority and can thus be dismissed by the general public. Trump isn't going to win over moderates, and the GOP is going to lock him out of the debates

>>15998

Imkampfy's doing what he does. One of them's even a Rach thread. I just took a one hour ban for talking about it.

I think I'll be setting up shop here.

It's starting to get really entertaining seeing people so ass pained over Trump. Now this is what you call a celebrity politician. I can't remember the last time a politician has created so much anal devastation in the US at least. Most politicians say something and MSM will pick it up especially if it's something the other party said. But, Trump it's funny because everyone is trying to fling shit at him. I mean they gave Obama the limelight, but that's just because he was black, nobody wanted to listen to a law professor speak; if it was left oriented news they focused on his minority status and his "campaign points." If it was republican oriented they focused on his birth certificate. But, Trump they really want to hate him for whatever reason they can conjure up.

Nobody in MSM brings up the fact that he isn't really presidential material, for a lot of reasons. Even if you make good points that doesn't mean you'll make a good president. Instead MSM focuses on the memes. We now live in a meme driven economy. Fuck the war economy, fuck the debt economy, it's all about memes now.

What a time to live in.

>>16050

>celebrity politician

Welcome to the future, it's the way things are probably going to be from here on out. Candidates will get nominated for some quirk or funny accent to get more screen time, while the bureaucrats who actually run everything don't change at all.

Bread and Circuses

There is literally a coordinated shilling campaign on /pol/ to promote trump. I even saw one thread framing Rand as a cuck. Listen, Rand Paul is the only candidate that said he wanted to defund Israel. He had to switch tactics and go kosher if he wanted to win but his convictions remain, just look at his body language during Bibi's speech. When Ron Paul ran both right and left attacked him and purposely discredited him because he addressed structural issues that are at the root of problems in the US. Nothing has changed and our enemy remains the same. This is a war of the mind and we have to win.

My problem isn't Trump so much as it is his faggot supporters on /pol/. Every time you even try to question some aspect about his campaign, your thread gets saged, people call you a shill, and people revert to meme posting. It's un-fucking-believably annoying and gets tiring after a while.