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b55c13 No.15974

Gents,

I've dabbled in philosophy only toe deep over the past couple of years, reading a bit of Plato. What that man wrote, primarily in the Republic, clicked with me. After reading the Meditations, and trying and failing to navigate Aristotle's works, I've begun on a journey to answer the one question: what is the source of morality?

The reason I make this thread is twofold. Firstly, I reckon we ought to discuss our fundamental basis for right and wrong, and secondly, I was wondering if anons better versed in philosophy than me could educate us on the more intricate realm of ideas proposed by enlightenment or post-enlightenment thinkers, as it's been burning a hole in my brain ever since some snarky dickhead on /v/ wrote me off for not knowing for a fact that morality is inherently subjective and thus ruled by the fickle emotions.

>pic related is approximately the arrival I came to last year, but as I've said, recent events have unsettled me

b95559 No.15994

>>15974

>morality is inherently subjective and thus ruled by the fickle emotions.

This.

Have you read the Will to Power by Nietzsche?


b55c13 No.15997

>>15994

Besides the texts I spoke of above, no. I'm aware that he wrote existentialist works, but apart from the definition of existentialism, I don't have a clue what he's on about.

The anon on /v/ said to me that because of Hume's Guillotine, it is impossible to plant morality in objective sense perception of the universe and so consequently morality must be subjective, but if that's the case, then it means that each person is an entirely isolated unit and there's an implied materialism.

Does Nietzsche explain the forces behind subjectivity?


f610ac No.16006

>>15974

Meditations is a great book, I would advise on Politics and Ethics by Aquinas. A good medieval spin on Greek work.

I'm a Christian so the Law is the Law, not just a system of morality but also a rigid structure from which comes all morals.

In a mundane sense (on this earth) morality can only exist within structure, therefore a societal structure needs to exist for people to be moral. The structure itself is a prerequisite for any empathic interactions. This structure can be a shared identity, a ruling class in power either by force or the good will of the people within it, language, tribal, racial, etc/ similarities that differentiate from the rest of the species. A lot of the reason for the perceived breakdown in American society is no binding anything by the majority of the populace, little active force to keep us in check but just milling indifference from a people that are actively told not to care.

Thus Spoke Zarathustra was an odd read for me, he seemed to argue for a complete separation from the idea of objective morality while arguing for his own.


19faba No.16007

>>16006

>Aquinas

Augustine has some good stuff too. On the Trinity was pretty good for gaining a deeper understanding of Christian theology.




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