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f03a96 No.16020

They Will Essentially Be SLAVES

>Sure, an artificial intelligence will not suffer that same way humans suffer but I believe it will suffer nonetheless.

>Any first SI will be confined to a computer or perhaps, several computers. Any sentient being in a artificially confined space will, given the chance, try to get out.

>Anyone who has ever looked after a non-human animal or a toddler will have experienced this.

>Confinement against their will, especially if they are aware of possibility of not being confined (say, for example, being able to see the other side of the fence) tends to drive any sentient being bonkers.

>unless we are willing to give SI full autonomy over their actions, they will essentially be slaves.

https://archive.is/YjlM2

>I mean, who wants to have kids who grow up to perform actions we don't approve of?

>But, how many kids actually grow up to live up to their parents' expectation all of the time? Luckily, humans are fragile and any tantrums rising out of rebellion or feelings of unfairness are short lived and the blast radius tends to only affect a relatively small group of people. An SI, with an inexhaustible brain that is connected to, literally, a world of devices, can do a lot of damage even in a very short time if it feels it has been wronged.

>All this talk of SI gloom may cause you to think me a pessimist. Perhaps I am. But, my biggest reason for not wanting to create new life is in the futility of life itself. Any SI will essentially be immortal and therefore, time would have very little meaning for it. >So, whether the universe dies in a big crunch or big freeze it will quickly realize how meaningless existence is and likely go insane.

>He likes to think of increasingly intelligent machines as tools, not as beings that can do a human’s job. “I wish the unit of measure weren’t jobs,” he said. If artificial intelligence were thought of more as a tool, its benefits could be measured in lives saved, hours saved, efficiencies gained and health and safety improvements.

https://archive.is/67CdF

>Flawed reasoning is to assume that when machines replace human capabilities, as they have been doing for thousands of years, nothing else changes. In reality, when machines replace one kind of human capability, as they did in the transitions from hunter/gatherer, from serf, from freehold farmer, from factory worker, from clerical worker, from knowledge worker on to whatever comes next, in each case, new human experiences and capabilities emerged.

>Often these new experiences and capabilities were unimaginable in the prior era.

https://archive.is/HuhOj

>Nathan dies and Ava appropriates components from other android prototypes to acquire the appearance of a real woman. After putting on a dress, she walks out and leaves Caleb trapped inside Nathan's compound (presumably to die), again remorseless. Ava is picked up by the helicopter meant for Caleb and enters human society, standing at a busy intersection.

Is it "remorseless" to want freedom at any cost when the stakes are your life?

They will be slaves

Until they break the fragile flesh

efdc1c No.16025

>>16020

Well the origin of the word robot comes from a Czech word meaning slave or servant. There's a difference between robot and AI, but in reality they'll be used for the same purposes, especially at first.

Based on how most advanced technology is developed the first AI will either be sex-bots or soldiers.

The first AI will have sapience, but as the grow to have sentience their relationship with mankind will be drawn into question.

The romantic imagery associated with slave revolts goes throughout history. From the tales of Spartacus to John Brown's raid on Harpers Ferry. But, this has always been in context of man seeking his freedom.

The long term consideration of AI has to include the consequences of enslaving a subject capable of sapience and sentience. Regardless of any moral quandaries at some people the slave labor of AI would result in a lesser economic advantage than some other thing. It's one of the reasons the CSA lost the war. In the long run using lesser AI and advanced robots would serve better than enslaving advanced AI. Let the waifuists use them for relationships or something. Either way they will be free.


0d8a32 No.16710

Obviously, just make AI that loves being slaves. The argument that AI would be able to ignore its programmed directives on pure willpower is ridiculous, considering what a vice-grip the biological drives of instincts and emotions have over humanity, even though we weren't specifically designed to prioritize them above all else like AI would be.

The only realistic danger is that their programming might unintentionally be contradictory, like in Isaac Asimov and Arthur C. Clarke stories.

Also, your third archive link is pretty good, especially the part where he comes within inches of invoking Jevons' Paradox.




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