/polpol/ - Politically Incorrect Discussion

>>2392
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Now I'm not saying let's go full neutral-passive about it and "give the other cheek" and everything will be fine, that's the worst idea and we can clearly see what it gives in the West. But spewing pure hatred-filled propaganda to answer to the radicalisation of a group by trying to instigate the exact same shit in ours truly is one incredible way of double-thinking, OP anon. Imo, keeping the traditional values pretty strong and not allowing spergshits to spew in our countries is the best thing to do, and for fuck's sake above all, respect the principle of the nation's sovereignty, and let other countries like China or whatever other place do whatever the fuck they want with their people, ESPECIALLY when you open your borders wide and large and invite anyone from the targeted countries to live in yours, I mean that LITERALLY is a recipe for disaster, so textbook-like recipe I tend to think more and more it's being done on purpose to destroy America (inb4 muh JOOZ, I don't really bite in all the conspiracy theory things, not without tangible proof).

Video related, which took me a while to find, because this is typical of what you should look for in a video setting. Someone addressing HIS OWN COMMUNITY, so that you don't get someone trying to sell his religion or anything, which isn't constantly attacked, so he can freely form arguments, and who speaks in a mostly open way to people he believes are of trust and will interpret his opinion, so that you get what he truly thinks and he doesn't try to radicalise/brainwash them.
Also, not made in someone's living room by some shady old doctor, which spends more time explaining that muslims are evil because some dude a thousand years ago did shady shits, for all I care every religion are stupid for according so much importance to some stupid person, whoever he was, that contributed in nothing to history except the very fact of his existence (and the very paradox of the situation is mind-blowing), but I DO recognise the importance for such movements to exist nevertheless, especially traditional "soft" Christianity, if only to push away extremists from the religion (which it did good, but invited too much progressist liberals which can't stand their ground), and to give people a purpose, and values to protect and aim for. It's the very principle of an authoritarian state, but in religion.

>>2381
>>2388
Are you going to give an argument or at least explain what you love in the video or just spew bullshit all over the place, Anon? I will admit, I listened to about 15 minutes, it literally is a big appeal to emotions spewing "evil", "killing" and "degenerate" without any logical sense to explain it, and it isn't worth my time. Also, wtf to the German barbarians' thing, sincerely? He denies history and doesn't refute it with facts like Holocaust people do, but by taking a dumb voice ridiculing the other's position and therefore implying yours is right (aka strawman).

Please develop something good, otherwise this thread is pretty much going to shift into a "muslims are bad hurr durr" thread, fishing for reactions instead of discussion.

>>2401
>You seem to have a problem following along
No, you do anon. I never said I sided with him about anything, hell I don't even get how we could be put in the same basket as our interventions were fundamentally different, I simply answered to your OP, not to him because I didn't listen to the whole videos. And if you really want to prove that you are superior or more worthy of being watched than him, a good step would've been a rebuttal of his video, or a good answer, rather than immediate follow-up with insult, Anon, you know it. Also, I did make points about your video, I don't get why I'm asked to leave the thread, anon, because I don't agree?

I would like to add that it's very bold of you to make a provocative OP with a 50 minutes-long documentary, not making any point about it specifically or even regarding the whole argument, and instead throwing some bait statement and expecting people to do the conversation for you (or agree with you, whatever you were expecting), instead of taking an active part in it.

Even if you do have a point, or are offering a good POV, I think everyone actually posting something should consider the fact that most people are lurkers, and very vaguely interested lurkers, and that you should therefore actually summarize whatever you are posting, and expect the least of others to post the best thing you can, this greatly improves the quality of the board, but also greatly improves your argument/POV, if not in logical/factual value, at least it makes people more inclined to watch the video, and to think you actually give value to that POV/opinion you are pointing out, that you're making an educated point, etc.

For all we know, you could have not even watched the video, of all your 6 posts, you don't say anything about it, nor explain me wtf is that thing about the German barbarian story. Let me point out that he does a whole speech on history, with the premise being : "I'm no historian but". Make of it what you will.

>>2411
>>2413
I think he sums the situation well, OP, no need to get rash, and he provided an alternative POV, which isn't inherently wrong, even though it does diminish the probative value of his argument, because he isn't offering a proper rebuttal, but that's up to you to call it out, and take him out by pointing out pieces of your video/his video which you have proof are true/false, or ignore him.

>>2415
>ISIS
>Muslim
Please anon ;^) Only watched 20 min of each video in here, but I believe that >>2379 addresses that problem already. Now if you want us to fuck off the thread because you aren't ready to discuss anything, sure, but this thread would be better back on >>>/pol/ because I doubt many people will bother browsing/watching/answering/discussing when you prove to be so dense, OP. Have a pretty american grill to make you less mad at life.

>>2424
I didn't post the OP video, I listened to a 15 minutes of yours and identified multiple logical fallacies and appeal to emotions I asked you to explain to me (to make me believe it is worth watching the rest) which you failed to do, even noting specific points of the video that made no sense at all, and answered with a 10-minutes long video with my interpretation of what I believe was the message (that I heard countless times on /pol/) that was pushed in your video.

You then proceeded to attack everyone in the thread, and still didn't say a single word about the video, making me doubt even more that you actually watched more than 10 minutes of it, hence why I felt like I shouldn't bother either to watch it, unless of course you could take care of your burden of proof.

This is /pol/. I don't HAVE to watch your video, nor does anyone, and if you are being a dick not putting up any point nor reason, I only see more and more reasons I shouldn't watch it and invalidating further arguments you would make (even though that's fallacious, whether you like it or not, be a dick and most people give less value/credibility to whatever you say, at least I'm aware of these internal emotional fallacies we have).

So ya, it is made to discuss the points in OP video. Do you have any point in the OP video you wish to discuss? You don't seem to, so in the meantime when you actually watch your own video I will leave you to it and to this thread once you DO have something to discuss, please feel free to call anons to discuss.

BTW, what >>2379 (who isn't me) did, and which he explained (I'm wondering if you even read our posts) wasn't thread hijacking, as it was related to OP's subject, aka Muslim's so-called degeneracy and if they should be exterminated or not.

In the meantime, I suggest that instead of flaming your own thread, you get back on the actual subject you're trying to push, which is Muslims being inherent retards, if I understood the first 10-15 mins of your video correctly.

Please, do allow me to post more pictures of pretty girl to calm you down.

Dr. Bill Warner was on Red Ice Redio 3Fourteen not too long ago. Talking Political Islam: History of Islam in Europe. Not bad

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio3fourteen/2015/R314-150211.php