/polpol/ - Politically Incorrect Discussion

>>10396

Women and Men have some similarities and as human beings with personalities it is a dependable piece of truth to rely on which says this; No one really changes in life. There is some variance between birth and the time a child can have a conversation which allows some identical twins to seem so different to outsiders. Mostly though your personality is set by the time you talk and many psychologists have to the detriment of their own careers tried to find evidence that this isn't so.

Perhaps you shouldn't tell people women change. But get them to not rely on false positives and their own hopes of what someone could be and instead to operate on only a little information but information that is solid and certain.

If someone tells you that they will be this and they will be that or that something change them then you should nod and forget about it. This is false. Stories like "this experience changed my life" or when general below mediocre people become great after some life trauma are almost fully fabricated to sell things and secondarily they also begin with ignorance of the individual. People react to circumstances. If your life has been easy and smooth then you will be one way. If something external changes then you may react to it and act another way. That doesn't mean you changed. If the environment becomes the other way again you will almost completely revert to that previous state. Save for some experiences and ideas you have acquired.

Let us not speak falsely.

>be amerilard

>living in jew york and starting a teaching job

>cool with it. teachers make best money there

>only worried about the privilege theorists that are running the show now in the education world

>come from single parent home. be daigo too. cannot help but want to punch every feminist ideologue i meet

>kind of scared that even in pre-job training had to read kimberly fucking crenshaw

>muh privileges

>these evil useful idiot motherfuckers are infiltrating everything at every level it seems

>otherwise im happy to get a real life started

>have a friend and fellow /pol/lock living in europe

>he is so unhappy because he is pussified and literally took an american girl over there with him

>stupid.jpeg

>why is he best boyim

i guess i just worry about the jews and the vaginal jews ruining everything for me or my comrades. dunno what i can do besides stay strong myself. nobody else seems to listen and take heed IRL

>>14760

how do you manipulate people anon? genuinely curious. i can do so in the professional field, by "splitting". but, i cannot save my friends and loved ones from themselves, no matter how hard i try

yfw being a positive manipulator is a good and necessary thing sometimes

Alright, I suppose I'll share my life story and all of that.

>Born with a multitude of medical issues (deformed hand, severely shortened intestines, rather hard of hearing (can't hear anything over 6,000 hz) would later get addison's disease as a kid)

>Birth mom did some drugs early on, and left the country when I was four to find her birth mom and never met her.

>Adoptive family is, quite honestly excellent for the most part.

>Mom is a head nurse in her unit at the hospital.

>Older brother graduated art school in the early 90's and started a very successful web design/marketing/advertising/branding company and makes quite a lot of money.

>Yet I look at him and I see an overworked alcoholic that's secretly insecure in himself (covers this up with materialistic items) and wants to please our mom for, well, being there I guess.

>End up graduating HS with a diploma from the International Baccalaureate Organization with a gpa of 4.3 and rather good SAT/ACT scores only to go to a culinary college that offered only $500 in scholarships and wouldn't let me bypass any classes.

>Get forced to have to do math classes of shit I learned in middle school and an English class where I was the only one that recognized Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal as satire.

>I dropped out of culinary college after my first year due to boredom/shitty curriculum/lack of prospects/fear/and a sense of unease.

>This was 4 years ago and I've been neeting it up ever since, although I applied for another college, but chickened out/didn't go through with the admissions process.

I'm just a paranoid/fearful little boy that gets illusions of grandeur and lurks internet sites all day/night. At least I have almost no desire to find a female partner or anything even though I do have a sex drive. My experiences with sex were really depersonalizing and alienating. I've also never had a girlfriend of any kind. Hope nobody recognizes me from this, lol.

>>15040

I read this post two days ago but I just haven't had the time to reply. I just remembered it existed a few seconds ago.

Fredrick "Hotwheels" Brennan, is that you?

>>10319

It's honorable to be able to grow old and die and still manage to take care of yourself in the process, without needing assistance, rather than depend on your children to change your diapers - children whom you've already forgotten existed.

This past few weeks have been a bummer.

Is it same to say the western world is the new Carthage?

As a melanin enriched man reaching middle age I try to bring up issues relating to the terrible state of black culture but other blacks don't want to listen. They don't want to do anything but blame their problems on racism and think the government should fix everything.

Is there any way to redpill these folks? Should I even try? I really want to get some of my extended family out of the crime ridden cities but it seems they just don't care.

I guess I am living too well off for them…

>Have my small business.

>Live in suburban community.

>Black wife, 2 kids.

>Kids are home schooled.

>We go camping 6 times a year, everyone in the family knows how hunt, and forage for edible local plants.

I just want the black community in this great country not to be so crappy.

>>15555

>As a melanin enriched man reaching middle age I try to bring up issues relating to the terrible state of black culture but other blacks don't want to listen. They don't want to do anything but blame their problems on racism and think the government should fix everything.

>Is there any way to redpill these folks? Should I even try? I really want to get some of my extended family out of the crime ridden cities but it seems they just don't care.

>I guess I am living too well off for them…

>>Have my small business.

>>Live in suburban community.

>>Black wife, 2 kids.

>>Kids are home schooled.

>>We go camping 6 times a year, everyone in the family knows how hunt, and forage for edible local plants.

>I just want the black community in this great country not to be so crappy.

>>15556

well I think that trying to redpill adults is almost impossible, they get all of their information from TV or Radio and its all jew ridden and leftist propoganda, If it was possible to give them an alternative news source that would be quite helpful.

So, I just realized that /pol/ is completely dead without any hope of salvation.

Shit's fucked.

>>15562

>>15562

What happened?

>>15564

See http://8ch.net/pol/res/2463032.html

It's completely retarded.

>>15566

Nothing new, i saw posts like these a few weeks ago. /pol/ has been slowly dying since april 1. But we shouldn't disscuss it in this thread, there are a stickied thread for it. Most importantly we have leaked /pol/ mod logs which explain their incompetence and why /pol/ went to shit.

>>15567

>general life discussion thread

And today I realized that /pol/ is fucked.

>>15568

Yeah, sorry didn't realise it that its a general life disscussion thread, I thought that its only about the feels

>>10394

Sounds like a great analysis of how most of modern women are - totally uncaring about anything that would have been considered normal and essential in a traditional family or relationship. No wonder our family structure is being destroyed and collapsing, very few people seem to remain which have and hold values (both male and female). We're a dead society.

>>15557

I imagine the only way to do it is to manipulate people into changing ideologies, mainly by starting with basics like appealing to emotion (and other unorthodox methods along with logical fallacies) in order to get some interested. Then move them into 'better' and 'better' things as their opinions start shifting. Unless a person functions very logically, I imagine.

As in, say, I managed to turn a pro-swedish socialist friend into a conservative by linking her to specific articles over a period of time. Want to attempt to get her to go to church regularly and attempt to get her to be against abortion (but that's proving tricky).

>>15783

Good job man, I'm doing the same with this half Italian half Swedish girl, she's a pro LGBT rights girl, but she said she'd never racemix. Guess her Swedish side is a minority lol.

I'm in a poor mood now. I just got up and took a shower, but before that, I checked my email which had numerous messages from kikebook. Yeah, yeah, >kikebook; I got it when I was younger because my older brother begged me to get one (which I didn't want anyway because I was aware that they would spy on me). One of my biggest regrets was listening to him.

It said that a close friend had updated his status. Now, the only person who I had thought that it could have been was my best friend who had wished me a happy birthday after I stopped using it and whom I notified of this about two months later and subsequently called several times without answer.

And indeed it was my best friend, but the post which had alerted me was dispiriting. He stated he was tired of cops killing blacks. I don't post here often, but I knew of this thread, and, honestly, /pol/ is steadily becoming shit and I think the mods are a little incompetent.

On a side note, we both of Irish heritage, and he once said he hated what Cromwell did to the Irish. I then pointed out that Elizabeth I had also killed the Irish. He responded that he didn't care that she did so and that she probably had a legitimate reason. I was flabbergasted by this response as it was a huge double standard.

Can I hide out here until summer is over? Good lord /pol/ right now seems worse than it ever was on cuckchan.

I'm a senior right now, or was, just graduated, grew up on the west coast bay area in one of the nations most dangerous cities where I went to a school where I was the only white. About to go to college and I'm just lost.

I'm going to go to university to study for engineering in a few weeks, but I just don't know if I want to go. I don't want to go. I want to help my race, I want to help wake people up, I want to show them what I know. Like some other people have mentioned, wanting to help but just feeling hopeless. I don't want to be an engineer, I just want to make things right, I'd do anything to help, I've gone around and pasted stickers to ironmarch at night, I've spread pamphlets where they may get noticed by people that align with traditional views, or if even to spark an interest, yet nothing seems to help. It just seems so hopeless right now, being told there's nothing that I can do, and despite my efforts that seems to be the case, a feeling of apathy surrounds everything.

All I do in my free time now is read pol and work on my car, I just want to escape from this hellish world or help fix it, but neither of those seem like an option.

What worries me often though is that I look Jewish. Every person I've met has initially mistake me for a Jew, but I'm not, or at least I don't think I am. No one in my family has ever been Jewish nor looked it, I'm a mongrel German, Slav, Irish, Spanish, and 1/64th Injun, I'm just worried that even if I do get to help, I'll be cast aside because of how I look, I'm going to get one of those genetic tests and pray that the results aren't what I fear.

>>2537

I'm 27 and used to buy into the SJW crap. College with "gibsmedat" EOP types and then grad school in a major metropolitan area were the big wake-up calls. This is particularly tough when you are a traditionalist in a humanities, interdisciplinary-type field. I feel as though our capacity for using reason and logic as well as our ability connect linear ideas in the US has been lost (especially among the hipster crowd.) I was going to get my PhD, but I don't even want to deal with the cognitive dissonance within modern academia. I've decided after my Masters to pick a trade and go innawoods.

It's all one big nihilistic circle jerk. The Ivy Leagues as well as the public schools aren't even trying to hide they are granting tenure to biased Marxists and well-connected foreign nationals who are trying to take down the US at it's center, by poisoning the minds of our youth.

>>15947

To add to that, I don't even think some of the "Marxists" realize the potential dangers behind their ideas. Case in point, one of my professors is a lovely Polish woman who truly identifies with the American culture and seems to love this country, but is completely sold on third-wave feminist garbage like it's going out of style. Ultimately, every more and norm is a social construct, but can't we all agree that some serve as crucial building blocks for foundation of the nuclear family, a human notion which separates use from other, lower mammals?

Fuck man, if I could go back and do it all, I would have just gone to trade school, started work immediately after graduating, sought a husband and started a family. As of right now, none of this seems obtainable now and the men in my area (while some successful and very hard workers) want to sow their oats with underage bimbo sluts. I'm not unattractive, I'm certainly not stupid, but I believe my education acts as a deterrent for some men.

At least I can run off some of these feels later at the gym.

>>15941

This. I blame the influx of paid trolls, redditors and butthurt users from Tumblr/#BlackLivesMatter

>>15555

>>15556

>I just want the black community in this great country not to be so crappy

Dem. feels.

>>2660

Love it

Looks like /pol/ and /meta/ have been deleted… what is going on?

>>15951

Never mind. Answered here: https://twitter.com/infinitechan

Sorry for the noise.

>>15945

The education system in the west is screwed up. I say the west because even people from the east come to western colleges which increases the demand for this type of screwed up education. Regardless of what the left says, this many people weren't meant to be educated at such a high level. There's no point to it, just "intellectual" masturbation.

But even if college is poisonous, even if employers are paying their fair weight when they are forcing people to get a degree for applying to basic jobs. You should still seek a degree to remain competitive in this day and age. This age will come to an end soon enough; but, until then having a degree is better than not having it. Hopefully your kids won't need a degree just to perform basic functions in society.

Hello /polpol/ im drunk yet again, its time to confess, i should say this to a priest, but the one at my church is a degenerate drunkard.

So I left my girl, because I suspected that she cheated me(her grandmother was a jew) I tried to redpill her, but she called me a retard and a psychopath, tried to redpill my friends, but it had the same effect. I'm sad. I have only 2 friends left. One is going to the millitary in a month and the other one has some mental issues. I think i might end it all, because i'm neither smart nor handsome.

>>15956

Don't end it all. Rather:

1. Get educated or pick up a trade

2. Get a job

3. Get /fit/, learn proper hygiene

4. Pay off debts

5. Find a proper woman, put a ring on it

6. Buy house, have babies

>>2858

>You could likely get your full degree online without ever going in debt. At all.

This is terrible advice, no one takes online degrees seriously, and online-only colleges like devry or ITT are fucking scams. Most colleges offer a few courses online though so a combination of online and campus courses makes it easier to work a job while going to school. If you work 30+ hours with more than 12 credit hours (4 classes) be prepared to either start fucking up school or fucking up at work, full time work and full time university is just too much. Transferring from community college is an excellent idea though, it saves a ton of money, and only credits transfer, not grades so C average and passing is acceptable if you are really busy with work of just like to drift through life with minimum effort like a jackass.

>>3108

SJW's and college liberals are pretty anti-Isreal, only instead of naming the Jew or addressing the problem of kikes they phrase it as "poor oppressed palestinian POC" etc. as soon as they are accused of anti-semitism they backpedal and insist that "no my empathy for their suffering only makes me human, not an antisemite", as if mere empathy and muh feels is going to do anything about the Jewish problem and the US being captive to Zionist interests. You may not have to lie but you may have to address dispassionately in terms of geopolitical detriments of Isreal instead of "Damn kikes get out reeeeeee", which is what a scholar of foreign policy should do anyways. Universities aren't dominated by zionist narrative IME, just Critical Theory and Marxist bullshit, and STEM is still very insulated from SJW faggotry.

I gotta say life has to be the biggest red pill. I mean what can you say to a person who looks perfectly good advice and just spits right into it. I thought basic motivations would help, you know food sex all that sort of appeal but some people just really like living in caves. You try to help people out financially or whatever and yet they go spit in your face and throw money into the fire. There's no reason, there's not even greed. Some people really like the cave.

I know people are said to be sheep, and all that sort of stuff, but you'd think that greed would get them going. Minimizing costs, becoming seemingly more attractive in the eyes of their peers; but some people really fucking love the cave.

I just don't get it. This is really why the jews when, because some people have their head so far up their own ass it'd cost more to get them out than to just let go.

Democracy was formed on the belief that an educated populace would elect the best rulers. I think I can safely say that's bullshit now. Some people can't be educated with anything. No carrot and stick, not even nuclear brinkmanship would make them see the light of day.

It's all just a big joke, and these sorts of efforts are just used as comedic material for those would poison and destroy the population.

There must be more to life than this.

>>16354

most people look into religion for purpose, but I don't want to have another one of these arguments

>>16367

No it's not that it's more along the lines of there's no real point in trying to red pill or educate some people. They don't have to be white guilt liberals, they don't have to be niggers, spics, jews or wops.

If a gay furry transexual can understand some basic shit (according to totally real blog posts on /pol/) why can't some people.

It's not about finding a purpose it's about, what are we suppose to do? Because if you let things happen then what? The top boils over and we start all over again? If some people won't get out of their fucking cave how are we suppose to help them.

What are you to do when your volk sticks their head in the sand, because yeah you can cut off a few but at some point it's just stupid is what it is.

The average person does need a master at that point. Maybe it's just better to say fuck it and do what needs to be done instead of letting people do what they want. There has to be a line in the sand somewhere, the question is where do we cross that line.

>>16373

I don't think we can red-pill the millennials so easily, first thing we need to do is have forums, propaganda videos and websites where people who seek our knowledge could go to learn. There IS a reason to red-pill people, if not our culture, race, technological achievements will die. if real Japs, Koreans and Europeans die out the world is back to chaos. we need to reach kids before they go to college where they are indoctrinated.

if you cut the cord of media to children they can be on our side.

I'll get some shit for this, but if you raise children religiously they're less likely to be libtards, I'm not speaking about american baptists that worship poop-dick, but I'm speaking about real religious people like catholics or orthodox christians.

Children are our future and we need to reach them before the yids that's my point.

>>16374

I'm not worried about anyone's kids at least anyone from here. I'm talking about the masses. It's one thing if we lived in an isolated community but we don't. The idea of a white utopia doesn't exist in reality as far as present times go. It's about fixing the damage that's done.

How can we say the ship is done? Maybe the torpedo didn't cause severe enough damage; maybe the iceberg only scraped the hull. If we repair while underway maybe we can reach port.

Society is made so that the weakest can live, not the strongest. It'd be easy just to purge the weak but we can't do that. And if people won't make the decisions for themselves what then?

You're real only choice is to use your strength to force the issue.

We live in a world that is too big to fail; that means unless action is done nothing will ever change. The world has decided that status quo must remain and we shall live in a vacuum.

A few good men have more power than many weak ones; but how far are you willing to go to do what must be done?

>>16379

But doesn't that lead back to the original point. People are just sheep. That's why we have a problem with our Jewish masters and they don't.

What we need is something as eternal as Judaism because only a jew can fight a jew. Everything else rises and falls, withers away and dies. We don't need heroes, we need legends.

It's all just a game of chess, we can't put ourselves on the level of the pieces if we want to stand toe to toe.

But there's that fine line, yes we would be doing what's best for the volk in the long run, but you would go full Nietzsche.

At that point what difference is there between you and a jew? While you're not fundamentally a parasite, you're still separating yourself from your volk, just like jews separate themselves from goyim. You'd have to be willing to give up everything in order to fight at their level.

>>16380

We must act on our Fight or Flight instinct, but there isn't anywhere to fall back to and we must fight now, time isn't on our side.

Yes I might go full Nietzsche and dissconnect from my volk, but is there any other choice?

>>16381

That's why we need something eternal, we eliminate the factor of time. Here on this wretched planet individuals may die, and they may ascend to heaven or whatever, but the people they're with are bonded into slavery.

There will always be parasites and vermin, it's about taking the long approach to it. Because as one nest falls another rises.

Well that's expand on the concept of Nietzsche, because in his own writings their exists an individual that exists outside of society that becomes quite powerful to say the least. You could go the way of the Ubermensch. But the thing is you need a group to be able to effectively fight something so ingrained and connected.

Like I said we live in a world that's too big to fail. Waiting on a happening will do nothing. You have to out maneuver those that want to keep things this way. They don't have complete control over everything but they're really good at gaining control over that which they don't. They turned the whole Napoleonic wars into a profit opportunity. Same thing with WW2.

If you were to go full Nietzsche you'd be more likely to end up as another Dylan Roof or something than actually making a difference. That's why there needs to be another choice.

In the past societies would start collapsing when they reach this point, but they figured out how to stop it. To be stuck in eternal hell is worse than the proverbial day of the rope. Look at Japan, that's what everything will become at this rate.

There's those white farmers in South Africa, everyday they get murdered. They don't have the support of the government, and they don't have the supplies necessary to keep back the tide. Things could be done there; and as far as international intervention, just remember Mogadishu.

>>16382

I think given the fact that those in power don't want things to ever change, coupled with the fact that people are sheep means the burden is ours to bear essentially.

You're not going to get the support of the sheep to kill the thief, and you aren't going to get support of the thief's accomplice to kill the thief.

The reason evil has succeeded is because they kill all those who had the balls to act. Trump alone shows that one man can rally support even if he isn't politically correct. Regardless of anything else it shows that the fight isn't over, there hasn't been a capitulation.

Technically they didn't kill all those who had the balls to act, they made sure to leave people who would make their enemies look bad. Skin-heads that are closer to white trash than anything German society wanted. The list goes on but that's the best example.

The question is what is there to do, and how should it be done.

>>16354

This is why the Jews make so many shekels. They put a price on everything. It doesn't matter if what they sell is literally shit people would still buy it and sell it.

Then you have other people like us who

>do it for free

to help our volk, but our volk would rather buy the shit than be given anything. And the thieves rather steal things that have a price tag attached than anything that's free.

In order for our ideals to gain traction they must be monetized.