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UKRAINE THREAD #3THE VIDEO LINKED IN THE OP HAS BEEN DOWNED, YOUTUBE HAS TAKEN DOWN THIS CHANNEL THAT HAS BEEN SHOWING THE TRUTH OF THE UKRAINIAN CONFLICT UNDER THE GUISE OF "COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT"
>08/3/2015Archive last thread, this is the replacement.
MOST RECENTUS BATTALION TO UKRAINEhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/despite-russian-warnings-us-will-deploy-a-battalion-to-ukraine-by-the-end-of-the-week/5434755EU Increasingly Abandons Obama on Ukrainehttp://www.globalresearch.ca/eu-increasingly-abandons-obama-on-ukraine/5435357Ron Paul's take on the crisishttp://www.inquisitr.com/1905749/ww3-u-s-intervention-in-ukraine-by-obama-to-blame-for-world-war-3-fears-claims-ron-paul/ 154 posts and 43 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.Post last edited at
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Putin Is Becoming A "Vulture" Bond Investor:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/putin-becoming-vulture-bond-investor
>With Washington throwing its full faith and credit behind a new Ukrainian bond issue, it appears it’s time for Moscow to play spoiler to current debt restructuring talks between Kiev and its creditors. Russia is the country’s second-largest creditor after buying $3 billion in bonds back in the days of Viktor Yanukovych (who was once the victim of an attempted assassination by egg and who famously fled the country amid widespread protests last year) and now the Kremlin wants its money and isn’t likely to be amenable to any haircuts imposed on private creditors. Here’s more from Bloomberg:
>Ukraine, after gaining a lifeline from the International Monetary Fund, included Russia’s bond among the 29 securities and enterprise loans it seeks to renegotiate with creditors before June. Finance Minister Natalie Jaresko has promised not to give any creditor special treatment. The revamp will include a reduction in the coupon, an extension in maturities as well as a cut in the face value, she said.
>Russian Deputy Finance Minister Sergey Storchak said March 17 that the nation isn’t taking part in the debt negotiations because it’s an “official” creditor, not a private bondholder.
>Should Russia decide to stick with a hardline stance on the negotiations (and it’s likely they will) it could not only embolden other prospective holdouts, but may indeed force Ukraine into a default:
>Holding out can lead to two outcomes: Russia gets paid back in full after the notes mature in December, or Ukraine defaults. The former option is politically unacceptable in Kiev, according to Tim Ash, chief emerging-market economist at Standard Bank Group Plc, while the latter would likely start litigation and delay the borrower’s return to foreign capital markets, which Jaresko expects in 2017.
>“Russia will be holdouts, to try and force a messy restructuring,” Ash said by e-mail on March 19.
>If Russia holds out and litigates, there is a “real threat” that Ukraine will deem the Eurobond an odious debt, Lutz Roehmeyer, a money manager at Landesbank Berlin Investment GmbH, said by e-mail on March 23. This refers to a legal theory that a nation shouldn’t be forced to repay international obligations if they don’t serve the best interests of the country and its citizens.
>Clearly, this is an opportunity for Russia to turn the restructuring talks into political leverage as it wrangles with Washington and the West over the fate of Eastern Ukraine. This is set against a particularly contentious situation in Eastern Europe that’s recently been characterized by a show of NATO force along the Russian border and the usual sabre-rattling out of Moscow (with the latter getting much louder this morning). As a reminder, just yesterday Vladimir Putin’s Security Council condemned what it called an “anti-Russian” US security strategy that it says is aimed at Russian containment by way of military posturing and the use of puppet governments. As far as Putin’s stance on Ukraine’s debt is concerned, well, he can always go the “nuclear route”:
>The Russian bond has a covenant allowing the holder to call it if Ukraine’s public debt tops 60 percent of economic output, which the IMF said took place last year.
>"It’s a kind of nuclear option, evaporating their leverage,” Rogge’s Ganske said. “If Russia accelerates, then Ukraine has to pay or default on it – i.e. game over." fe4454 No.3709
>>3338>OP vid downWell fuck.
b877e9 No.3716
>>3338>>3709Did anyone save the OP vid for a reupload?
fe4454 No.3718
>>3716No idea.
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CIA Refuses to Share Updated Intelligence on MH17 Crash - US Journalist: CIA Refuses to Share Updated Intelligence on MH17 Crash - US Journalist
>The US Central Intelligence Agency will not release an updated assessment of the Malaysia MH17 flight crash because it would exonerate the Russian government from involvement, US journalist Robert Parry, known for helping expose the Iran-Contra affair, told Sputnik.
>On July 17, 2014, Malaysia Airlines aircraft Boeing 777 crashed in Ukraine’s eastern region, killing all 298 people on board. Kiev was quick to accuse independence supporters in eastern Ukraine of shooting the plane down using Russian-made missiles.
>“Obviously, there have been updates they [CIA] just don’t want to say what they are,” Parry said. “I’ve been told the intelligence points in a different direction… there’s no evidence that the Russian government gave these missiles to the rebels. There’s even evidence that points to someone besides the rebels being implicated.”
>Parry said when he asked the CIA for an update they provided him with the July 22 assessment, which was released just five days after the disaster and is now over eight months old.
>Reliable sources told Parry that the CIA has indeed conducted more assessments of the crash based on fresher intelligence. However, he said the CIA responded to his pleas by maintaining that there were no updates.
>“They [CIA] have a great deal of intelligence on MH17. They not only had satellite images, they also had intercepts. Not giving away secrets, but the United States does have capabilities to pry into people’s phone calls and other things,” Parry stressed. “And they’ve evaluated this information. But, they won’t share it.”
>On March 19, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that Western media have ignored officially documented information from eyewitnesses previously obtained by Russian media and investigators, including those indicating the presence of a Ukrainian military jet in the vicinity of the doomed flight.
>A final investigation report is expected to be published by the Dutch Safety Board by mid-2015.————————-
Crimea Ready to Deploy Nuclear Weapons Systems on Russian President's Order:
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150327/1020078568.html
>Crimea will welcome the deployment of nuclear weapons in the republic if Russian President Vladimir Putin deems it necessary, Crimean head Sergei Aksenov told Sputnik.
>“If there is such an order from the supreme commander, we would support it,” Aksenov said.
>On Wednesday, the chair of Russian State Duma Defense Committee, Vladimir Komoyedov, said that needed, Russia was ready to place nuclear weapons in Crimea.
>Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov dismissed on Wednesday speculations by US billionaire Donald Trump and the Western media of “nuclear rhetoric” in Putin’s remarks in a documentary on Crimea's reunification with Russia that was aired last week. The media claimed that Putin had said in the documentary that Russia was ready to put its nuclear forces on alert to protect Crimea and the Crimeans against potential aggression.———————–
Ukrainian Military Violated Ceasefire 27 Times in One Day – Donetsk Militia:
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150328/1020133372.html
>Ukraine's armed forces have violated the ceasefire in Donbas 27 times over the course of one day, a representative of the command staff of the militia of the DNR told RIA Novosti on Saturday.
>"In the course of the past 24 hours, we have recorded 27 violations of the ceasefire, resulting in the injury of one militia volunteer in the town of Gorlovka. The Ukrainian military fired 82 and 120 millimeter caliber mortars, and used tanks, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles in fire aimed at militia. The main sources of violations were recorded near the village of Spartak (northern outskirts of the city of Donetsk), at the Donetsk airport, the district of Gorlovka and the village of Shirokino," the representative noted. fe4454 No.3719
Ukraine rebels hand over bodies of 22 govt soldiers:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11424511&ref=rss
>Separatists in eastern Ukraine have handed over the bodies of 22 government soldiers killed during the fierce, months-long battle over the airport near the rebel stronghold of Donetsk.
>The bodies were given Friday to a Ukrainian volunteer organization working to recover soldiers killed in a conflict that has claimed more than 6,000 lives. Workers from the International Committee of the Red Cross oversaw the handover.
>Volunteers gave the Russia-backed rebels two bodies, but it was not immediately clear whether they had been fighters or civilians.———————–
Syria's Assad says West wants to weaken Russia:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/27/us-syria-crisis-assad-russia-idUSKBN0MN0GQ20150327?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews
>Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has accused the West of trying to weaken Russia by turning Ukraine into a puppet state, a tactic he said had also been used against his own country.
>"I keep coming back to the fact that there is a connection between the Syrian crisis and what is happening in Ukraine," he told Russian government newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta in an interview, excerpts of which were published on Friday.
>"Firstly because both countries are important for Russia, and secondly because the goal in both cases is to weaken Russia and create a puppet state."————————-
Separatists In Eastern Ukraine Say 'Lawmaker' Killed:
http://www.rferl.org/content/seperatists-in-ukraine-say-lawmaker-was-killed/26923773.html
>Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine's eastern Donetsk region say a member of their legislative body and an aide have been shot dead.
>Andrei Purgin, the senior member of the separatist legislature in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic, said on March 27 that Roman Voznik and an aide were killed late on March 26 in the rebel-controlled provincial capital, Donetsk.
>Voznik was also commander of a rebel battalion called Mirazh (Mirage).
>Another separatist leader, Aleksandr Kofman, said the two men were shot dead at around 11:00 p.m. in a car.
>Purgin said it was "too early to draw conclusions" about who killed them.———————
Stoltenberg: It's not NATO moving east—it's the east wanting to join NATO:
http://www.unian.info/world/1060930-stoltenberg-its-not-nato-moving-eastits-the-east-wanting-to-join-nato.html
>"I think that’s a completely wrong statement. It's independent nations that have knocked on the door and wanted membership. It's not NATO in any way moving east—it's the east wanting to join NATO and/or the European Union. And that's the sovereign right of every sovereign nation to decide," Stoltenberg said.
>According to him, "the idea that this is something that is lost for Russia and gained by the European Union is the wrong concept."
>"No one has been forced to become a member of the European Union or NATO; everyone who has joined the European Union and NATO has joined because of their own free democratic will," he added. fe4454 No.3720
Chinese Tour Operators to Assess Opportunities in Crimea During Visit:
http://sputniknews.com/business/20150327/1020112155.html
>Some 15 tour operators from China will visit Crimea to assess the tourism and recreational opportunities on the peninsula, the Crimean Ministry of Tourism and Resorts said in a statement Friday.
>“An informational tour of Crimea will be carried out between March 28 and April 1, for 15 major Chinese tour operators,” the statement published on the ministry’s website read.
>The informational tour will be held to promote Crimean tourism opportunities on the Chinese market.
>In October 2014, Crimea’s envoy to Russian President Vladimir Putin, Georgiy Muradov, said that the peninsula’s authorities count on developing direct tourist routes with China.———————-
Right Sector Insignificant? President Offers Neo-Nazi Defense Ministry Post:
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150327/1020084689.html
>Right Sector leader Dmitri Yarosh is said to have been offered a post in the Ministry of Defense in exchange for the integration of the movement's volunteer battalions into the Ukrainian armed forces, Ukrainian media have reported, citing MP and Ministry of Interior advisor Anton Gerashchenko.
>"I can confirm that Dmitri Yarosh has received a proposal from the president to take up a position in the ministry of defense. I personally would welcome it if Yarosh were to come to work in the public sector," Gerashchenko said Thursday evening, speaking on Ukraine's Channel 5.
>"I'll say, moreover, that Yarosh feels bored in the parliament. Plus, he was seriously wounded in battle. I would love to work with him in creating a voluntary defense association in Ukraine along the lines of the Estonian, Finnish or Swiss systems," Gerashchenko added.
>The Right Sector leader, who was wounded in combat in January in Donetsk, has yet to confirm whether or not he will accept Petro Poroshenko's offer, although Ukrainian media have speculated that his appointment is a foregone conclusion. His responsibilities are to include the coordination of volunteer units with the Ukrainian military in eastern Ukraine.
>President Poroshenko has promised to place all voluntary fighting units under the formal command of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Earlier this week, Right Forces battalion leaders confirmed that they have been offered to join the Ukrainian National Guard, agreeing on the condition that their units' structure and leadership would be preserved intact, Expert.ru explains. Plans to integrate radical right extremist battalions into the country's armed forces, aimed at reducing the risk of political destabilization in Kiev, have been criticized by experts, who note that initiative will only lead to the radicalization of the armed forces.
>Right Sector's Ukrainian Volunteer Corps includes two battalions operating in eastern Ukraine, as well as eight reserve battalions throughout the rest of the country.
>In November 2014, the Russian Supreme Court declared Right Sector to be an extremist organization, and its activity has been banned on the territory of the Russian Federation. Earlier, in March, 2014, Russian authorities issued an arrest warrant against Dmitri Yarosh for incitement of terrorism, and for his organization's combat operations in the First Chechen War against the Russian military.————————-
NATO Secretary-General: It would be wrong to speculate about Ukraine's NATO membership:
http://www.unian.info/world/1061045-nato-secretary-general-it-would-be-wrong-to-speculate-about-ukraines-nato-membership.html
>"It would be wrong of me to speculate. Ukraine has emphasized that this will take some time," he told Canada's Maclean's.
>"Some years ago, they [Ukraine] applied for membership, and I respected that. Then they decided to be a non-bloc country. Now they have started the process of reforming with the aim to apply for membership later on. If and when they apply, we will assess that application," he added.
>Ukraine's Verkhovna Rada on December 23, 2014, amended Ukrainian laws to give up non-bloc status. The Ukrainian authorities believe that non-bloc status was unable to guarantee the country's security. fe4454 No.3721
Ex-deputy of emergencies service head arrested with right to bail worth over UAH 1 mln:
http://www.unian.info/politics/1061044-ex-deputy-of-emergencies-service-head-arrested-with-right-to-bail-worth-over-uah-1-mln.html
>The court has arrested former deputy chairman of the State Emergency Situations Service of Ukraine Vasyl Stoyetsky with the right to be released on bail worth UAH 1.182 million.
>This court order was announced by judge of Kyiv's Pechersk district court Ihor Kozlov, an UNIAN correspondent reported.
>In keeping with the court ruling, the suspect or other person could put up bail until May 23, after which the suspect should be released immediately.
>In case of release, Stoyetsky is obliged to visit investigators on demand and not to leave his permanent place of residence.
>Justifying the decision, the court announced the suspect should be arrested as he may influence witnesses when out of prison.
>The current court ruling could be appealed within 5 days in Kyiv's court of appeals.
>What is more, the court turned down the defense's claim to remove two judges from the case.——————
Militants in Luhansk region fire Grad first time after Minsk truce – Moskal: http://www.unian.info/war/1061007-militants-in-luhansk-region-fire-grad-first-time-after-minsk-truce-moskal.html
>A reconnaissance and sabotage group of militants made an attempt to infiltrate into the town of Novotoshkivka in Popasna district, Luhansk region, in the early hours of Saturday.
>This was announced by the press service of Hennadiy Moskal, the head of Lugansk regional military and civil administration.
>At night, militants again used Grad multiple rocket launchers in Luhansk region after a long break, the press service said.
>At 2300 Kyiv time on Friday, they were shelling the 29th roadblock at the Bakhmutka motor road and the dislocation of the Ukrainian forces in the town of Novotoshkivka. "Rockets exploded near a coalmine facility and Kuibyshev Street. As a result of a direct hit, a garage facility was burnt, some districts of the village were cut off the power grids. More detailed information about damage and casualties among civilians is being verified," the press service said.
>What is more, from 0000 to 0330 Kyiv time on Saturday, a battle with the use of automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades continued on the outskirts of Novotoshkivka, not far from a bus stop, as a reconnaissance and sabotage group of Russian-backed militants was attempting to enter the town.
>During the night there were skirmishes between the Ukrainian troops in Krymske and Russian "Cossacks" groups in Sokilnyky. Krymske remained out of the reach of firing, no destruction was reported. From 2100 to 2300 Kyiv time on Friday, the village of Stanytsia Luhanska was seeing automatic and machine gun fire with occasional explosions of shells. As a result, a power failure blacked out the central part of the village. There is no report about casualties yet.
>"The use of Grad systems for the first time after the Minsk agreements were reached indicates that the terrorists cannot be trusted," Moskal said.
>"Over the past month and a half, our repair teams have done titanic work to restore life supporting infrastructure in the villages along the line of contact. Civilians have even started to return home in the hope that the war was finally over. And now again: Grad [rockets], mortars, new destruction," he added. fe4454 No.3722
Why Is Russia Building Massive Underground Bomb Shelters?:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-26/why-russia-building-massive-underground-bomb-shelters
>Did you know that the Russians have a massive underground complex in the Ural mountains that has been estimated to be approximately 400 square miles in size? In other words, it is roughly as big as the area inside the Washington D.C. beltway. Back in the 1990s, the Clinton administration was deeply concerned about the construction of this enormous complex deep inside Yamantau mountain, but they could never seem to get any straight answers from the Russians. The command center for this complex is rumored to be 3,000 feet directly straight down from the summit of this giant rock quartz mountain. And of course U.S. military officials will admit that there are dozens of other similar sites throughout Russia, although most of them are thought to be quite a bit smaller. But that is not all that the Russians have been up to.
>For example, Russian television has reported that 5,000 new emergency nuclear bomb shelters were scheduled to have been completed in the city of Moscow alone by the end of 2012. Most Americans don’t realize this, but the Russians have never stopped making preparations for nuclear war. Meanwhile, the U.S. government has essentially done nothing to prepare our citizens for an attack. The assumption seems to be that a nuclear attack will probably never happen, and that if it does it will probably mean the end of our civilization anyway.
>Needless to say, the Russians are very secretive about their massive underground facility at Yamantau mountain, and no American has ever been inside. The following is what Wikipedia has to say about it…
>Large excavation projects have been observed by U.S. satellite imagery as recently as the late 1990s, during the time of Boris Yeltsin’s government after the fall of the Soviet Union. Two garrisons, Beloretsk-15 and Beloretsk-16, were built on top of the facility, and possibly a third, Alkino-2, as well, and became the closed town of Mezhgorye in 1995. They are said to house 30,000 workers each. Repeated U.S. questions have yielded several different responses from the Russian government regarding Mount Yamantaw. They have said it is a mining site, a repository for Russian treasures, a food storage area, and a bunker for leaders in case of nuclear war. Responding to questions regarding Yamantaw in 1996, Russia’s Defense Ministry stated: “The practice does not exist in the Defense Ministry of Russia of informing foreign mass media about facilities, whatever they are, that are under construction in the interests of strengthening the security of Russia.” Large rail lines serve the facility.See the rest of the article for more. Shit's interesting as fuck.
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Ukraine Unity Holds Up as Backers of Ousted Governor Hold Rally:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-03-28/ukraine-unity-holds-up-as-backers-of-ousted-governor-hold-rally
>Allies of former regional Governor Igor Kolomoisky pledged their support for Ukrainian unity in the face of a pro-Russian rebellion to the east, even as they criticized moves in Kiev this week that led to his departure.
>Several thousand residents of Dnipropetrovsk, a city adjacent to rebel-controlled Donetsk, packed into the central square on a rain-drenched Saturday, dancing to music and singing patriotic songs. Still, some felt wronged by President Petro Poroshenko’s pressure for the governor to quit.
>Kolomoisky, 52, a billionaire and who has funded volunteer troops fighting insurgents just to the east in Donetsk, was forced out this week in a spat with President Petro Poroshenko. Support from the magnate, whose net worth is estimated at $1.36 billion by Forbes, was crucial for the government in Kiev to maintain power over industry-heavy Dnipropetrovsk.
>“We were arming battalions, treating the wounded and rescuing captives,” said ally lawmaker Borys Filatov, during a speech at the evening rally. “We did a lot. So yes, we are angry, we are prickly, we aren’t comfortable.”
>While demonstrators noted their frustration with the manner in which Kolomoisky left office, many declared their support for Ukrainian unity.
>Ukraine’s two eastern regions remained tense across all front lines, military spokesman Andriy Lysenko said during his daily briefing in Kiev on Saturday.
>“In general, tension persists along all front lines, from the Azov Sea to the Ukrainian-Russian border near the village of Stanytsya Luhanska,” Lysenko said.
>Local residents at the rally said they were worried the dispute would threaten the security of the region, so close to the fighting.
>“I want to believe that there is no threat to the Dnipropetrovsk region anymore,” Lynska, the medical worker, said. “But I don’t think that the situation will change for the better. That’s why I am very-very concerned.” fe4454 No.3734
Kiev Says Situation Stabilized in East Ukraine As Ceasefire Holds:
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150329/1020167044.html
>Ukrainian military operation forces in the country's east report no new clashes with local militias there, operation spokesman Andriy Lysenko said Sunday, as the renewed ceasefire deal appears to hold.
>"The situation in the area of anti-terrorist operation appears to have stabilized," Lysenko told journalists at a press conference.
>Positions of troops loyal to the Ukrainian government in Kiev were not attacked even once throughout the night, he said, adding there were no reports of artillery gunfire or armored vehicles movement.
>Tensions remain along the line of contact on the stretch from the Sea of Azov in the south to the center of the Luhansk region, according to the Ukrainian operation headquarters. "The flashpoint now is the village of Shirokine near the Donetsk airport," Lysenko said.———————-
Ukraine's Right Sector Leader Wants Donbas Residents Deported:
http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150329/1020179851.html
>In an interview for Ukrainian newspaper Obosrevatel published on Sunday, Ukrainian Right Sector leader and Rada deputy Dmitri Yarosh stated that the unruly residents of eastern Ukraine should be deported and deprived of their civil rights.
>Yarosh noted that much of Donbas is populated by 'Sovoks', an insulting slang term in Ukrainian and Russian derived from the word 'Soviet'. Yarosh stated that the region "is populated by Sovoks –real Sovoks. And they should be deported. We have to deal with those who do not want to live by the rules and the laws of the state in a very harsh manner. This includes deportation, the deprivation of civil rights, and so on. Without force, it will not be possible to do anything with the region, to turn the tide so to speak."
>The Right Sector leader added that the region's "unruly" residents must also be 'dealt with'. "If we get rid of the unruly ones, everything will be fine, quiet and peaceful. And then, of course, a program of affectionate Ukrainianization can begin." The MP noted that "spiritual rebirth" can begin only if authorities act in a consistent and forceful manner.
>Yarosh cited Ukrainian authorities' response to events in Konstantinovka, Donetsk, controlled by the Ukrainian military, where an inebriated Ukrainian armored vehicle driver crashed into a crowd of people and crushed and killed an eight-year-old girl in a hit and run incident.
>"The events in Konstantinovka are an example of what I mean. If we had shown even a little bit of weakness…Right from the beginning a whole bunch of 'heroes' began crawling out of the woodwork, using the tragedy in their own separatist interests. And when our guys came out and began shooting into the air and arresting the instigators of riots, everything ceased at once. This is the rule….The rowdy ones were dealt with, and everything is fine," Yarosh explained.
>The MP noted that in his view, there are still many "real patriots" of Ukraine in the region, and that the present anti-Kiev attitudes are the result of many years of Russian propaganda and the removal of genuinely Ukrainian spiritual values. Yarosh explained that the "guys from Donetsk and Lugansk regions" fighting for the Ukrainian army "should become the [new] elite, on whose basis a qualitatively new society can be built…And those Vatnik [slang for Russians blindly loving their country], criminal oligarchic attitudes sitting in the minds of ordinary people for one reason or another must be removed."
>The extreme nationalist leader noted that he has accepted the president's invitation to come work in the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, adding that he has chosen to do so on a volunteer basis.
>Speaking about the Ukrainian army's recent losses on the battlefield, Yarosh recalled that "we faced a route near Ilovaisk…On the one hand, we have learned to fight, with morale at a high level. But things are very bad when a pride of lions is led by sheep. They cannot lead us to victory, and only roll us back…Speaking about the current situation on the front, our forces are still threatened by several encirclements. And I don't know, again, whether the sheep will react to this, or whether they are playing some sort of geopolitical game." fe4454 No.3735
Dragoon Ride’s crossing through Czech Republic sparks anti-American protest:
http://www.stripes.com/news/europe/dragoon-ride-s-crossing-through-czech-republic-sparks-anti-american-protest-1.337282
>Anti- and pro-American protesters squared off in Wenceslas Square on Saturday, a day before a large convoy of American troops was scheduled to pass through the Czech Republic on its way to Germany.
>The crossing will mark the tail end of the U.S. Army’s 2nd Cavalry Regiment Dragoon Ride, an 11-day trek of roughly 120 vehicles across eastern Europe aimed at reassuring allies concerned about Russia’s military aggression in Ukraine.
>The stated aim of the exercise rankled members of the Czech Republic’s Communist Party and sparked a series of protests across the country. The largest took place in Prague, the capital, where some 1,000 anti-American demonstrators gathered .
>“This definitely won’t contribute to peace in Europe because the situation is very, very dangerous and very tense. We’re of the opinion that steps like this definitely don’t help,” said Lubomir Ledl, a protest organizer and lawyer from Prague.
>The anti-American demonstration called forth a response by pro-American Czechs, approximately an equal number of whom came out on Wenceslas Square. Heated debates between the two sides caused police to separate the two sides, and the pro-American demonstrators held their own rally in Peace Square later in the day.
>Many of those in the pro-American camp said they would be meeting the U.S. soldiers as they crossed into the country to show that not all Czechs oppose Dragoon Ride.
>“It’s a discussion we are all having right now about which way the Czech Republic is going right now,” said pro-American protester Pavel Cerna, a Prague resident. “It’s important that we show the world that it’s not only the communists [fucking wot] that are dictating opinions here.”
>The Dragoon Ride is the culminating event for the 2nd Cavalry Regiment’s participation in Operation Atlantic Resolve, the ongoing multinational training event now headed up by the 3rd Infantry Division.
>The Stryker-heavy convoy will be entering the Czech Republic at Nachod, Harrachov and Vyskov and will eventually m near Prague before heading back to its home base in Vilseck, Germany.
>Ledl said the chief concern of those opposing the convoy was that this and other show-of-force exercises would provoke Russia and lead to a further deterioration of the situation in Ukraine, where Russia-backed separatists have been fighting since early last year. Preventing that conflict from spilling over to the Czech Republic is a major concern, he said.
>“This topic of peace, calming down the situation and warning against the danger that can come from the Ukraine is bringing the people together,” Ledl said.
>Some doubt the sincerity of the protesters’ motives.
>Jiri Pehe, a political scientist and director of New York University’s Prague branch, described the protests as political theater organized by the Czech Communist Party. He believes that many of the protestors may be Russian agents or people who are secretly getting money from Russia.
>“If you take into account that the Communist Party has about between 10-15 percent in public support, you can see where these protests are coming from,” he said. “So, it’s a very vocal minority.”
>Pehe cited a recent poll by the STEM agency that found that Czechs overwhelmingly support the government’s decision to allow the Dragoon Ride within their borders. Of those polled, 82 percent said they supported the convoy, while only 17 percent opposed it.
>One of the protest organizers was Jiri Vyvadil, founder of the Friends of Russia activism group. In a statement released earlier, he suggested the United States had ulterior motives in supporting Ukraine.
>“American troops who will pass through here are a symbol of the same scenario: Americans cause military tension then intervene to alleviate it,” he said. bf916d No.3758
I have a feeling that we're going to see a new phase in WW3 pretty soon. Should we have a Yemen/M.E. thread on this board to compliment the Ukraine thread?
cea0c2 No.4675
>>3758I, as a lurker who learns a great lot from these threads, would greatly appreciate that, for I know close to nothing about Yemen.
96788b No.4677
Now that the shills and shitposters are gone, for now, I have a question to ask /polpol/. Is this really the great happening of our time or is it being blow out of proportion?
11543c No.4713
Right now it's a conventional war over Yemen, but from here on out unless something happens right now to cause it to get hot it'll be a cold war that will steadily escalate until nukes are fired.
By the way:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32139637 559d84 No.4714
>>4677I say it's not going anywhere, if only because it looks like the major financial interests in Germany and France are getting pissed off at the sanctions and the other disruptions the conflict caused.
This wasn't supposed to be a long war, I get the feeling that the west didn't even expect Russia to fight after the Ukrainian government was ousted. It's become messy and painful and businesses want a return to the status quo.
The whole thing seems like it's running on politician's pride at the moment, the sensible
realpolitik decision would be to redraw Ukraine's borders, end the war so things can get back to normal and maybe someone can try and fix the basket case that is Ukraine's economy.
ab0c87 No.4730
>>4677I'd say it's a prelude to the Happening. The geopolitical earth shaking as forces build up.
000000 No.4747
>>4714>fix the basket case that is Ukraine's economyNever going to happen, not with Russian irredentists everywhere there's a factory - if East Ukraine goes, then you've got a failed state in the West.
4903d2 No.4751
>>4713>Right now it's a conventional war over Yemen, but from here on out unless something happens right now to cause it to get hot it'll be a cold war that will steadily escalate until nukes are fired.The kikes are beginning to get nervous, what do they have planned? Perhaps a little gift for Tehran which they are preparing retaliation for?
>Israel test-fires ‘David’s Sling’ missile defense system>The joint U.S.-Israel air defense system known as David’s Sling has passed a set of tests that potentially clears the way for full-scale deployment.http://rt.com/news/246093-israel-tests-david-sling/also
>Palestine gets ICC membership, opening door to Israel war crimes prosecutionhttp://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/04/palestine-formally-joins-international-criminal-court-150401073619618.htmlBRICS leadership has been passed to Russia
>As Russia assumes the chairmanship of the BRICS business council, the launch of the New Development Bank for its members will begin as an alternative to the US-dominated International Monetary Fund (IMF).http://rt.com/business/245905-brics-russia-bank-economy/ 000000 No.4753
>>4751>kikes getting nervous about BRICSI somehow doubt that, considering how deep they've got their claws into Russia and China, and that batshit insane communists run SA and Brazil.
4903d2 No.4756
>>4753>I somehow doubt that, considering how deep they've got their claws into Russia and ChinaThat's true, I was referring mainly to their hasty missile shield tests which apparently were done ahead of schedule.
They may be prepping for an ugly end to the Iranian nuclear talks.
4903d2 No.4759
>>3338By the way OP, are there any plans for a Middle East general thread? The happenings in Yemen and the recent surge in ISIS activity in Lebanon is putting Assad's current position in peril, we could be seeing something major in the coming days.
677b19 No.4764
>>4759I'm not OP, but trying to comb through news and get an OP filled with yemen war info, but it seems pretty hard to cut through the fat and into the real news in regards to this shit. Maybe I'm just not used to the realities of today's news.
bb9466 No.5406
>>4764Just recreated a thread with all of the links that had been gathered on the /pol/ thread
bb9466 No.5408
>>5406Not OP, by the way, and I probably have missed some
3acb79 No.6425
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From SouthFront
Donetsk pensioners get payments in Russian roubles
Pensioners in the Donetsk region started receiving pension payments in roubles on Wednesday following a decree by the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DNR/DPR). Some of them said they hadn't been paid in months by the Kiev government.
a36313 No.6460
>>3569What's with Russian planes lately abandoning manufacturer names and being named PAK (like the FA)? Is it similar to how the F-35 is a "Joint Strike Fighter", not a Lockheed plane?
6d043c No.6997
>>3569How many of those would they have, and with what logistical capacity? Does anyone have any /k/ type information on their real feasability?
Either ways, interesting situation in the Ukraine.
4f827e No.9044
Crossposting from /k/
U.S Forces Building In Eastern Europe To Counter Russia
https://archive.today/clq5p 399491 No.9064
>>6460Yes. (П)Prospective (А)Airborne (К)Complex of (Ф)Frontline (А)Aviation
Also today some of russian ISP's blocked hatechan, so if you will not notice less amount of "RIDF shills" maybe that would mean that they are not payed shills at all. (because real shills are fucking stupid)
8aa46d No.10328
Was checking the news lately, and want to show how the propaganda still continues. Check the way they manage to throw a few words or sentences here and there:
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/04/08/un-paid-russian-air-charters-hundreds-millions-while-putin-invaded-ukraine/
>while Putin invaded Ukraine>Russian President Vladimir Putin annexed Crimea and sent proxy fighters to invade eastern Ukraine>despite Putin’s aggressive behavior abroad>Moscow’s aggressionYou know whats the worst thing? Just look at the comments. I really don't understand how can americans, and some of us Europeans be such retards.
>West and Central Ukraine isn't happy>Revolts
>East Ukraine isn't happy>B-But they haven't revolted, they've actually been invaded by Russians… and we must save them!Furthermore how can there seriusly still be people who think that Ukraine can manage to protect itself for more than a week if Russia really attacked? For 6 times in a row the Ukrainian army got encircled, because they cut too deep and didn't realised it. 6 fucking times in a row they couldn't understand that they're making the same mistake, and there are still retards who believe that they can fight against an actual army?
b3d38a No.10366
>>9064Are there any other threads on 8chan right now about the Russian ISPs blocking this site?
2fbac4 No.10453
>>10366Did they? Source? Why would they do that?
677b19 No.10460
>>10453Some thread on a bestiality board hit the russian degeneracy sensors, asked hotwheels to take it down, hotwheels replied aggressively and 8chan got blocked almost immediately as opposed to the long time it usually takes.
2fbac4 No.10462
>>10460Makes sense considering they have been trying to censor degeneracy for a while now.
It sucks that the whole network is locked from Russia, though. I guess it's the price to pay for HW's free-speech policy.
3acb79 No.11150
http://rt.com/news/248365-ukraine-bans-communism-nazism/Ukraine bans Communism & Nazism, celebrates UPA nationalists as 'freedom fighters'
>Ukrainian MPs have passed a law banning communist and national-socialist totalitarian regimes, and all their symbols. Another bill celebrates 20th-century nationalists accused of links to Nazi Germany, granting them social benefits.
>Social benefits for nationalist 'freedom fighters'>At the same time, another law passed by 271 Rada MPs on Thursday officially recognizes Ukrainian nationalists who collaborated with Nazis in the 20th century as "freedom fighters". Members of several official, underground and paramilitary groups, including the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), operated from 1917 till 1991. They fought "for the country's independence," and are now granted social benefits by the new law. Post last edited at
8aa46d No.11318
So… Any movement or something? Do you think a new conflict will happen? I mean the Separatists said that they're fighting for complete independence from Ukraine, and won't accept being a special/autonomous zone, which is exactly what the current truce is trying to make them.
Also anyone have an achrive of the last 2 Ukraine war threads?
a29447 No.11339
>>11150Hilarious. To think that there are "national socialists" right now who support those hohol fuckers.
Ukrops are nothing but anglokike attack dogs against Putin's national Russia.
0bd869 No.11345
>>11339So popol is home to Russian Soviet shills?
I thought this place was supposed to be shill free.
8aa46d No.11352
>>11345>So popol is home to Russian Soviet shills?Leave.
First time seeing your ID here, and your only post is accusing this place for being Russian shills. Which I find very strange, since Russia blocked this place, but I guess there will always be retards who yell "ridf".
There are 3 threads, with over hundreds links and citation on why we support the Novorussian and Russian side of the civil war. If you don't agree, then say why and try to back it up, BUT if you are just gonna scream the same thing over and over you are better off at /pol/.
8bfeb7 No.11357
>>11345>So popol is home to Russian Soviet shills?/polpol/ was home to a lot of Pro-Russians prior to the latest wave.
The only semi active thread here was about Ukraine and was about as unbiased as an RT presenter, which is not surprising since a lot of the links posted were in fact from RT.
They most likely fled to here as they were having difficulty coping with getting BTFO when presented with the facts surrounding Putin's love of Jews.
7054d0 No.11358
>>11345>>11357Jewtin/RIDF spam is not really BTFOing anything.
I personally have not seen any pro-Ukrainian articulate his stance that is not just "Jewtin is aggressive and is a kike puppet". Take it to the Ukraine threads and go 'BTFO them there if it's so crystal clear', would definitely welcome another perspective on the conflict.
Ukraine is incredibly more ZOG than Russia.
7054d0 No.11360
>>11358>Take it to the Ukraine threads…My mistake, thought this was in another thread.
ff0b56 No.11362
>1984
Looks like Orwell, off by thirty years or so, wins by a nose! Huxley conceeds defeat and the dystopian reckoning of the world is finally known.
8aa46d No.11363
>>11357>BTFOSince when?
Neither that guy, nor you are trying to argue.
The 1st guy just said that this place is RIDF, and you said we got BTFO. Non of you are trying to have a discussion.
>when presented with the facts surrounding Putin's love of Jews.At /pol/ whenever there was a thread about Ukraine, 1 guy started to spam pictures about Putin with jews, not allowing any kind of discussion. Is that what you call BTFO and facts?
Listen, this place is quality over quantity.
If you have a different opinion, just say it , tell us why you think so, and if you can provide some links with evidence.
If you want to just scream Ridf, talk about unrelated stuff, and straight up lie , because you can't express yourself like a white person - feel free to go back to pol.
8bfeb7 No.11364
>>11358>I personally have not seen any pro-Ukrainian articulate his stance>Ukraine is incredibly more ZOG than Russia.That's the whole point. Both sides are kike infested shitholes that no sane man would want to support.
I haven't seen many Ukies claiming porky is a saint, even on /pol/. There are however noticeably more Putin fans trying to claim he's some messiah sent to save europe when in reality he's just Russia's own neocon fraud who not even Russian nationalists have much love for.
7054d0 No.11368
>>11364Well, the whole point with the Ukraine threads is also not about Putin worship but supporting the right of self determination of Novorossiya. That is basically the stance of the "pro-russian" supporters here on /polpol/. And yeah they will probably be incorporated by Russia just like Crimea for protection from USA hegemony.
Novorossiya sympathisers wanted a place to discuss the conflict without being bombarded with unrelated onesentence Jewtin RIDF shilling. If you can't understand that, you need to reevaluate why you've come to this place instead of sticking to freezepeach/pol/
7aa50f No.11431
>>10366Honestly, I don't know. I'm mostly lurker and write here on rare occasion. But yeah, for me it's been blocked for a week already (yeah the same way they blocked halfchan before, when simple proxy can help you to open the threads and when you need to post something - just temporarily turn the proxy off)
b3d38a No.11651
Just some various news collected from Twitter. Apologies for propaganda stories, but everything reported on Ukraine is propaganda for one side or the other.
>Belarus Helps Ukraine with Military EquipmentThis article is pretty interesting, talks about Belarussian cooperation wth Kiev and some other stuff
(via belarusdigest.com)
https://archive.today/ay24Q——–
>Russian fighter 'admits killing 15 Ukrainian prisoners of war' as Amnesty International urges investigation into 'war crimes'>Arseny Pavlov, also known as Motorola, has been accused of shooting dead Ukrainian soldier Ihor Branovytsky(via independent.co.uk)
https://archive.today/xFQAP——–
>S&P downgrades Ukraine credit rating by one notch to CChttp://f24.my/1Eijk0V ——–
>Kiev’s Economic Blockade Boosts Bitcoin Usage in Separatist EastI just thought this was kind of interesting, I suppose Bitcoin could be pretty useful in unstable parts of the world
(via cointelegraph.com)
https://archive.today/Jp5jI——–
>Odessa People's Republic declares its independence and secession from Ukraine>A parallel government was formed in Odessa, declaring its secession from Ukraine and the formation of the Odessa People's Republic. This information was distributed by the "Agency of Information Reports". >According to the publication, the editorial office is in posession of a document entitled the "Declaration on the State Sovereignty of the Odessa People's Republic". The document is dated on April 6, 2015(via fortruss.blogspot.it and vg-news.ru)
https://archive.today/Rio4b 8aa46d No.13063
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Kiev goes back on the offensive, preforms miserably, as usual