Should we even stay on 8chan?

Name
Email
Subject
Comment *
File	Select/drop/paste files here
* = required field	[▶ Show post options & limits] Confused? See the FAQ.

Embed	(replaces files and can be used instead)
Options	Do not bump (you can also write sage in the email field) Spoiler images (this replaces the thumbnails of your images with question marks)
Password	(For file and post deletion.)
Allowed file types:jpg, jpeg, gif, png, webm, mp4, pdf Max filesize is 8 MB. Max image dimensions are 10000 x 10000. You may upload 1 per post.

File: 1419765263325.jpg (150.59 KB, 445x574, 445:574, EGYPT8_g.jpg)

Should we even stay on 8chan? Anonymous 12/28/14 (Sun) 11:14:23 fae784 No.490 [View All]

When I came over on the first exodus I was tired. I was tired of out of control faggot mods who want to ruin their boards for a power kick. I was tired of erratic admins who had the principles of a lemming. I was tired of shitposters and shills ruining a place I had come to love in front of my eyes.

With a last wave of HE DOES IT FOR FREE spammed across /v/ I said goodbye to 4chan and came to 8. For a time I felt good. /pol/'s quality was like it was years ago if not better, we had webms with sound and text formatting and hotwheels was a based admin who wasn't a total faggot like moot because he liked free speech.

I don't feel good now. Shitposters and shills run rampant across /pol/ as bad as they ever were, the mods are once again faggots, and if >>481 is telling the truth hotwheels will attack our board culture for shits and giggles.

From where I am standing I don't see us having a future on 8chan. Does it suit us to try to scrounge a good community together in some dimly lit corner of the site hoping we won't be noticed by the slavering hordes? If we gain any prominence the people who ruined /pol/ will come here and even the autism of a good mod can't deal with a flood, especially when hotwheels won't help us. Then what? /polpolpol/? Endless migrations through boards, each having a brief beautiful spring before an endless winter? If this is to become our future why should we even stay on 8chan? We're /pol/lacks, it's not the board that defines us, its the community. This wasn't our first exodus and it won't be our last. If 8chan won't suit us then we don't have to wear it and I am sick of trying to work around the fact that the people who run our websites want to ruin us.

Does someone see something I've missed or have I put my hopes on the wrong thing again.

94 posts and 11 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.

Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 16:56:37 08a0e8 No.2593

>>2509

>because they don't even know about us
Lurk more and you will begin to feel like some post are attempt to evaluate our reactions, this is the first phase which is developing a guidebook about how to shill efficiently in a particular setting. I will be honest, I suspect you, please don't take it personally, better be paranoid than sorry. Keep in mind this is not an accusation, but rather the way I feel.

>just proposed a plan i think would be successful were it to be carried out
Just consider the fact that numerous plan designed by people in current position of power and who are used to design them don't always go as planned. And it take them a great amount of time and human resources just to design them in the first place. We should avoid such arrogance to think we can pull plans with such scale without any real experience. A board free of "shills" is already a big task to do. We have to acknowledge our inability, for the time being, to do anything relevant in the meatspace.

By the way we can still discuss hypothetical plans like these. But the purpose of this board isn't to push a particular agenda. I think many people here have their own agenda, it wouldn't be fair if we were to push one.

You can't trust people on the internet, even if you know who they are. And you don't build trust by talking but by being exposed to danger, regardless of it's form, and constantly overcoming it. And avoid people who often say "I will blablabla", they don't even know what they are doing. You guys tend to think you can have follower by saying the right stuff, like if you were a politician asking for votes. People will follow you regardless of your agenda as long as they trust your ability to overcome adversity and lead them. Talking is good when you already have follower so you can raise morale or show off for posterity.

Good luck to you, as long as deep inside in your guts, it is burning, there is hope for you to get shit done.

Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 17:59:27 900ef0 No.2611

>>2509
>minor protests

I'm talking about the kind of person who gathers everyone under the sun and puts them on common ground. Somebody like Jesus, Hitler, Martin Luther King, or anybody with the ability to speak to somebody, change their heart/mind, and get them to come with them. The system does not like this at all because it doesn't allow for the control of people.

I don't think you look at things logically, because, you still fail to understand the scope of technologies reach in today's present moment. I am on no high horse and you should not say that I am; otherwise you have put me up high on it. But really you do throw the term schizophrenia around like it is nothing. When in combination with the word 'paranoid' it is very much a tactic to deface, demonize, and discredit someone. You struck no nerves with me my friend. Only that you caught the attention of a drunk person who is wholly tired of dealing with ignorant persons such as yourself.

Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 18:00:40 900ef0 No.2612

>>2509
The ass end of the internet does also not qualify as this board. If it shows up on Google it is not 'apart' of the ass end of the internet. Furthermore just by STATING that you really show how much you don't know about the technologies being used today.

Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 18:01:50 900ef0 No.2613

>>2509
Honestly do you even read what I say or just spout bullshit and put greentext everywhere as though it will somehow validate your insane reasoning?

Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 18:03:24 900ef0 No.2615

>>2593
People will follow as long as you provide them a smile, a form of salvation, and that they will somehow be saved. Give them their pleasures while preying on their fears.

Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 18:56:49 b154f4 No.2619

>>2615

You are talking about mob, I am talking about people who will actively help you and save your ass. Everyone in position of power (be it corporate, political, criminal, whatever) belong to a pack. With your fancy smiles you only will end up predated or forced to pledge allegiance. Because nobody trust each other in such structures, to pledge allegiance is to provide them enough material for them to blackmail you so the group can act accordingly when you're beginning to become a threat.

Now think about it, if your expertise is to make the mass follow you, your utility will probably be limited to this task. You will only end up being just another puppet. You do not even will have to know you are a puppet.

Now, let's suppose you manage to avoid all of this AND manage to be known by a great deal of people, the truth is that they do not care. People care about bread and circus. They will say you are right, that you deserve to lead them, that they cannot take it anymore. But they will do nothing. They will not change their daily routine for you. They will not endanger their security for you. Especially when they have children to feed.

By the way, I think we should create a specific thread for further discussion about these issues and go back to the initial topic in this one.

Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 20:58:48 ed4aa9 No.2622

/pol/ has gone to shit, I can't stand the natsoc, jews and other circlejerks

Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 21:33:07 ada59c No.2626

File: 1424986387784.png (66.7 KB, 1137x895, 1137:895, natsoc anon.png)

>>2509
So you're a risk-taker are you anon?

Anonymous 02/26/15 (Thu) 21:52:06 0feedc No.2628

>>2626
when necessary

Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 07:52:29 7b7ceb No.6943

>>2492
There is no hope for winning against the Zionist-globalist system if people can't even be made to see the truth about NatSoc and the history of the war era.

Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 08:48:49 33071a No.6958

>>2626
This idea, although on the face of it outrageaous, is really (once you think about it for a long time) what could only work. Personally, I had thought that something like this could happen in the future, but never made any plans. I am just going into the military, not an enlisted, but officer academy. I do hope, and will support, any coup such as that. Once /pol/ ages I hope we can form a network, I will support it. We are only beginning.

Anonymous 04/04/15 (Sat) 10:28:03 5994ce No.6982

File: 1428143283418.png (248.97 KB, 1503x4360, 1503:4360, 1236765549419.png)

>>1946
shut the fuck up, you fucking 12yrs old, if you don´t know about what you speak.

The orginal chan audience always did it for the lulz but it still was quality content most of the time…
The meme requiered actual work like EFG comics and the trolls were time intensive but massiv win, only with time the little faggot kids came and shited up 4chan mostly /b/ which was never good but bettween meh and the shithole of the internet are galaxys…. so fuck off little kid if you dont know what this was about.
I think anybody can take a GOOD troll/joke here. The problem is 99,9999% of all jokes are already reposted to death and nobody brothers to think of a good troll/joke himself.
Fucking reddit/9gag and facebook cancer today, thinking unqualitative shitposting is 4chan culture…

pic related one of efg´s life storys

Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 00:04:02 31aeb7 No.9579

>>490
Apply for mod or make a new board.
What is there to be tired off you haven't lifted your ass.

Anonymous 04/08/15 (Wed) 02:30:39 d79247 No.9675

>>493

that's not an imageboard

that's a 90s style forum

Anonymous 04/28/15 (Tue) 10:46:55 1acdad No.13994

It's very hard to find good online communities, that are interested

in not just whining and complaining, but discussing what can actually be done.

You can talk all you want about how you hate niggers (stormfront, coontown),

modern society (neoreactionary and darkenlightement crap), etc

but it's a complete waste of time without action. You might as well masturbate,

that's all you're doing, except mentally.

8ch.net/pol/ and halfchan's /pol/ are almost a complete waste of time,

along with pretty much every other board here. It's not worth the effort

trying to find a diamond in a shitpile. Really, I need to find some good

communities, I browse raypeatforum.com and news.ycombinator.com everyday

and a few IRCs but they're pretty slow.

It's sad that all the good communities of old have died, everybody who

was a good contributor got a job and the sites were slowly invaded by

normalfags and SJWs.

I've been browsing 8ch.net/fringe/ lately, some interesting stuff (among

their bullshit). Meditation is quite helpful and some writings as well that

can really show you a new perspective.

Anonymous 04/28/15 (Tue) 13:35:01 5007bf No.14003

>>1019

>so he is more courageous than most

Many disadvantaged people do the same, because its the right thing.

You sound like you have an attachment to him.

Anonymous 04/28/15 (Tue) 15:11:56 65bef4 No.14006

>>13994

Aaand here comes the /fringe/ bullshit. Again. Just like always.

Anonymous 04/29/15 (Wed) 05:00:43 31aeb7 No.14023

>>9675

i dont even get chats that require registrations anymore

its so pointless and obsolete

Anonymous 05/25/15 (Mon) 13:38:13 5b89c4 No.15045

>>559

SJw Judean spotted! Proceed with caution with this filth!

Anonymous 05/25/15 (Mon) 19:52:49 1e814d No.15049

File: 1432583569611.png (46.93 KB, 318x317, 318:317, 1427565933078-1.png)

>>490

If our communities suck its because of all the /lefypol/ /polpol/ /pol+/ /natsoc/ /insertsecretclubhere/ /insert/pol/insert/

We have tons of quality threads just not at the same place. If all polacks returned to 4chan pol it would be the best board the same way that if we made a /shitpissnfuckingdimbshit/ board and had everyone post there I would be just a good but we are split so we need to dig for quality threads and once we find them they are next to dead because its on a board whit no traffic.

That being said I don't give a fuck il just continue lurking sporadically

Anonymous 05/26/15 (Tue) 04:40:20 4ae0a0 No.15069

>>15049

this

Anonymous 05/26/15 (Tue) 23:50:42 000000 No.15090

>>15049

>>15069

>4/pol/

>post-cluckening

No thanks, faggots. At least we can have quality discussion here without bait; shitposting; gb2/pol/; corrupt, opaque moderation; and the containment board mentality.

Anonymous 05/27/15 (Wed) 08:43:29 000000 No.15099

Worth pointing out ITT that yidwheels is having another AMA on plebbit.

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/37f35i/iama_disabled_american_expatriate_in_the/

Anonymous 05/27/15 (Wed) 16:50:49 166708 No.15102

File: 1432745449350.jpg (142.54 KB, 1146x660, 191:110, 1378982974109.jpg)

>>490

>>493

I've been thinking about how to create a community without the problems mentioned and I have a few ideas:

a) the concept of a "shield". A shield would be a place for the general population and for trolls where they could come and shit the place up. There are already "shields" out there: 4chan is a shield for 8chan. When we had less people from 4chan on 8chan the level of the discussion was much higher, however nowadays, after various exoduses we have people sharing the OP's feelings. The main problem is how do you create a shield though?

b) high barrier of entry (a filter): If you make a board hard to access it will filter out people who are dumb (because they will be unable to piece everything together) and you'll weed out shitposters, since why would they invest time and energy to get on your board if they can come to /pol/ for example and do the same with much less effort?.

c) two-step barrier of entry: this would go against the nature of the chans, since it would involve a way of identifying oneself (perhaps PGP could be useful here?), but basically you would lead on the people thinking they got into your secret club (and can now reveal their true intentions) while having a super secret club (which is the real deal).

Obviously it wouldn't be perfect and a lot of selection would have to be involved, but that's impossible to have an open board without shitposting and people trying to ruin the fun. Unfortunately it seems that there has to be a trade-off involved.

Anonymous 05/28/15 (Thu) 00:45:45 31aeb7 No.15113

>>15102

secret clubs not needed thx

Anonymous 05/28/15 (Thu) 02:37:12 52dcc6 No.15118

No, we've moved boards before, we've moved sites before and very little has changed. As long as a legitimate center of discussion exists on serious, forbidden topics like international jewry, world government, up to date info on wars and false-flags, and greater discussion of ideology and sociopolitical issues, we will be under attack. Shills, halfchan retards, DDOS attacks, bots, sliding thread spam have followed us from 4chan /pol/ to 8chan /pol/ and the boards are now identical in content (or lack thereof).

We're in the best possible position right now if the board moderator remains a strong hand. Our obscurity keeps those that wish to subvert mostly focused on other endeavors, /pol/ weeds out most of the trash and there's a good incentive to provide content. Hotwheels might fag it up behind the scene, but we'll burn that bridge when we come to it.

>>15099

Apparently the reddit overlords deleted his thread and maybe shadowbanned him. Quite amusing.

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 04:27:43 0ce554 No.15143

>>1156

You can't spell cIRClejerk without IRC

Anonymous 05/29/15 (Fri) 04:41:10 0ce554 No.15144

>>15143

And the spammer that caused the current captcha stuff was an IRC butt-buddy of HW. Spammer seem to have a long cancerous history of fucking with chan and furry communities going back quite a long time (not that I care about furries but I do kind of care because fuck trolls). I don't necessarily have a problem with the once a 24/hr captcha, as it may cut out some automated shills etc, but the problem that forced the captcha was probably preventable by HW telling said shill to fuck off. Instead of that, HW posted the cIRClejerk logs and notified everybody the best way to spam the site, which made the DNSBL/blacklist absolutely necessary.

I've always had a (maybe tinfoil) kind of suspicion that CAPTCHA acts something like a signature, at least partially making your comments more legally significant. That might be a topic for another thread but we seem to be heading in a direction where that discussion may be more important

Anonymous 05/30/15 (Sat) 11:24:02 000000 No.15162

>>15144

>I've always had a (maybe tinfoil) kind of suspicion that CAPTCHA acts something like a signature, at least partially making your comments more legally significant.

Well, it definitely was on 4chaim. Their captcha got worse and worse (and less necessary) as the years went by after it was implemented, especially after the Pass came about. I've heard these days you actually need to be signed-in to a Google account to solve it, which wouldn't surprise me, because you used to sometimes get the (much) harder ink-blot captchas, which /g/entoomen found went away after you signed-in to a Google account.

Anonymous 05/30/15 (Sat) 11:25:48 000000 No.15163

>>15144

>>15162

And obviously, there was no reason for moot to pick Google captcha, when he could have had his (very incompetent) developer write a simple replacement, like the kike on wheels did here.

Anonymous 06/01/15 (Mon) 02:31:48 0ce554 No.15207

>>15163

I always figured halfchan was slow on the development and new features due to government…

If you know what I mean

Anonymous 06/19/15 (Fri) 06:32:41 cbe828 No.15467

>>2486

in essence, hasn't this already happened?

the jews/ruling class pretty much have us all over a barrel now don't they?

Anonymous 06/20/15 (Sat) 17:06:18 7d6616 No.15476

File: 1434819978525.jpg (96.35 KB, 200x255, 40:51, 1433538122239-1.jpg)

>>490

Excellent poast

/pol/ is effectively ruined nao. Moving to other places reduces our coverage and impact and capacity for collective action. 8wheelz must make a move or he's either in on the flood of nice guys and turd world shitpoasters or he's been Newtered.

The last month is emblematic. We now have Syrian/Russian propagandists duking it out with the state department, occupying most of the catalog

Anonymous 06/20/15 (Sat) 17:08:39 52dcc6 No.15477

File: 1434820119631.png (15.57 KB, 150x201, 50:67, Capture.PNG)

>>15476

yep

Anonymous 06/21/15 (Sun) 01:22:17 ffd671 No.15480

>/pol/ sux now

>8chan is ruined

>welp that's it i'm done

>time to go

>back to cuckchan

>i'm leaving

>no hope

>no future

>hotpockets

>blah blah blah

Classic divide and conquer bullshit.

/pol/ has been cleaned up by HW now. /intl/ has taken a hit and mod has been replaced. What more do you want?

Anonymous 06/21/15 (Sun) 02:51:29 000000 No.15481

>>15480

>/pol/ has been cleaned up by HW now

Are you serious? He was the original problem.

Cripple and his fanboys can have their "shill paranoia free" /pol/, but don't expect anyone who wants meaningful discussion to have anything to do with it.

Anonymous 06/22/15 (Mon) 03:28:51 1d9f52 No.15491

rules are bad. people trying to help by making more rules will always kill a community. just enjoy the small but slow polpol

Anonymous 06/23/15 (Tue) 18:24:29 c3a941 No.15494

>>15491

>rules are bad.

Yes, let's turn every board into /b/ and let spammers and shills run free, then everyone will have a great time and meaningful, informative discussions.

Anonymous 06/23/15 (Tue) 20:30:01 a46926 No.15495

File: 1435091401866.jpg (91.38 KB, 724x720, 181:180, 1415569747822.jpg)

you guys are worse than ISIL, full sharia law, no fun allowed

Anonymous 06/23/15 (Tue) 20:32:03 52dcc6 No.15496

>>15495

Hey man, someone's gotta keep it real.

Anonymous 08/06/15 (Thu) 03:58:31 624488 No.15990

We just need a good old fashioned forum.

Torch Anonymous 08/06/15 (Thu) 19:30:09 dbeca7 No.15995

>>2486

Am getting real tired of these 'call to action' posts and threads. Even the retards are lurking /polpol/,

Anyway, in my opinion.

Burn /pol/ to the ground. Let weak people be weak, its way to much to carry.

Your focus should be on improving yourself. If you used your eyes twice as often as your hands on these chans, you got some solid info to work with. Yield it and create wealth.

Most of you understand the past, you get the present and you can predict the future. What else do you anons need?

Also, stop being so fucking goddamn pessimistic all the time. Work on your mindset ffs.

Anonymous 08/07/15 (Fri) 03:38:04 4b5d7b No.15996

File: 1438918685263.jpg (48.7 KB, 338x426, 169:213, 1386908770870.jpg)

>>15995

I got banned for making fun of them in that cancerous thread about trying to take the anonymous image then they responded by spamming the board and reporting me. Board owner either doesn't mind the cancer or is in on it I suppose. I at least trolled them hard enough to spam the board again.

Anonymous 08/08/15 (Sat) 00:08:22 ea286c No.16014

>>518

This

>>572

/meadhall/ would be an excellent place to "ally" with in the event of another exodus.

>>669

This

>>673

>65 USD per year

nope.jpeg

This

THIS

Also this

I'm okay with this

Anonymous 08/08/15 (Sat) 01:54:32 31aeb7 No.16022

>>16014

>/meadhall/ would be an excellent place to "ally" with in the event of another exodus.

Automatic country flags, even when you can turn them off, are annoying.

Anonymous 09/07/15 (Mon) 17:21:27 953f3a No.16497

File: 1441646488179.jpg (37.78 KB, 450x344, 225:172, tumblr_mqolhxdHfM1rer9mho3….jpg)

>>490

Its actually much worse now than you thought it was back in Dec 2014

/pol/ knows 8chan is the last stop. Hotdud knows this. His /pol/ hotpockets know this. Hotdud is in the same situation as Moot was in 2013. He hates /pol/ for the same reasons.

thing is, there's nowhere else to go now. So not only is /pol/ too big to fail, there's no more migrations. If a migration didn't happen in April, then it never will. 3000 users are not going to migrate, and the Hotpockets lording over them certainly won't allow that. That's exactly what April was, a cabal of Hotdud, his installed /pol/ hotpockets and /intl/ shills working together to undermine the /pol/ community. And because there are no options, Hotdud will continue to do this, minus the Maddog that slipped its leash, /intl/, who is now irrelevant. Only a Gamergate-tier happening could trigger a real change.

Anonymous 09/13/15 (Sun) 14:49:43 07942f No.16530

>>>/pol/3276658, https://archive.is/kq9Hk

Anonymous 09/13/15 (Sun) 17:48:31 701aca No.16533

>>16497

>Only a Gamergate-tier happening could trigger a real change.

To be honest, that has always been the case, no matter where you are. We always pride ourselves as being above the masses when we fall into the same traps. The news like what you've posted will cause an uproar for about a day or two, then it's back to business as usual. Same thing in the real world. You don't hear about KONY 2012 anymore, or that dentist who killed a lion, or even the confederate flag shit.

The thing is, we as people like comfort. We don't like change, whether it be a mental change or an actual physical change. We like our hugbox. We won't change unless either we have to, or the rest of society appears to be changing.

Gamergate was an interesting phenomenon. In retrospect, it's a miracle it grew as big as it did. It didn't achieve this on it's own however. I believe what a 4chan mod said was correct; that if they had just left gamergate alone, it would've fizzled out and died as users lost interest. But by banning discussion, they caused a shitstorm the likes of which hasn't been seen in an age on the interwebs.

Now, we come to our predicament: because hotwheels is so laissez-faire with his moderation, the odds of a Streisand effect happening here is very slim.

Any information, no matter how incriminating, will ever be powerful enough to force an exodus unless the globals go full retard and B&D the evidence. With the quantity of posts, all they need to do is bumplock a thread and the shitposters will bury it.

Anonymous 09/27/15 (Sun) 13:47:35 81c980 No.16592

Hi.. dev here

I once played with they Idea of writing a p2p imageboard, but never bothered because I cbf doing it all myself (need buy in from other interested devs).

Another alternative would be to develop a protocol based chan system, where the production of content is decoupled from the moderation. (You can apply whatever filtering service / algorithm you chose).

A new future for chans needs totally new technology imo. but yeah cbf doing it by myself.

Anonymous 10/02/15 (Fri) 03:24:28 c52c57 No.16617

>>490

>For a time I felt good. /pol/'s quality was like it was years ago if not better, we had webms with sound and text formatting and hotwheels was a based admin who wasn't a total faggot like moot because he liked free speech.

> I don't feel good now. Shitposters and shills run rampant across /pol/ as bad as they ever were, the mods are once again faggots,

You realize 8chan was great before the migration from 4, and after the migration it turned to shit.

Gee, I wonder what caused that!