fae784 No.490[Last 50 Posts]
When I came over on the first exodus I was tired. I was tired of out of control faggot mods who want to ruin their boards for a power kick. I was tired of erratic admins who had the principles of a lemming. I was tired of shitposters and shills ruining a place I had come to love in front of my eyes.
With a last wave of HE DOES IT FOR FREE spammed across /v/ I said goodbye to 4chan and came to 8. For a time I felt good. /pol/'s quality was like it was years ago if not better, we had webms with sound and text formatting and hotwheels was a based admin who wasn't a total faggot like moot because he liked free speech.
I don't feel good now. Shitposters and shills run rampant across /pol/ as bad as they ever were, the mods are once again faggots, and if >>481 is telling the truth hotwheels will attack our board culture for shits and giggles.
From where I am standing I don't see us having a future on 8chan. Does it suit us to try to scrounge a good community together in some dimly lit corner of the site hoping we won't be noticed by the slavering hordes? If we gain any prominence the people who ruined /pol/ will come here and even the autism of a good mod can't deal with a flood, especially when hotwheels won't help us. Then what? /polpolpol/? Endless migrations through boards, each having a brief beautiful spring before an endless winter? If this is to become our future why should we even stay on 8chan? We're /pol/lacks, it's not the board that defines us, its the community. This wasn't our first exodus and it won't be our last. If 8chan won't suit us then we don't have to wear it and I am sick of trying to work around the fact that the people who run our websites want to ruin us.
Does someone see something I've missed or have I put my hopes on the wrong thing again.
f6ae76 No.493
Maybe a solution would be a chan where users are required to:
1. Register for the board
2. Lurk for a compulsory amount of time (e.g. must have viewed the board on 30 separate days, must have viewed x number of threads) before being allowed to post. This should be kept private and possibly changed periodically to make shill accounts harder to create.
3. Posting will still be anon with the ID system.
4. Board numbers will be limited to 100 for every 1 moderator, or something to that affect.
5. Mods are required to take some sort of test in regards to logic, spelling and grammar, etc. Could have some sort of election system where users vote on mods based on answers to questions.
6. There is a very clear set of rules with examples of what constitutes acceptable and unacceptable threads.
4a8fea No.499
Opposition will find us whenever we go. We already have all the necessary tools here, there's no need for something like >>493; the administrator might be a faggot, but he can be banned from our board just like anyone else. I won't move even if we are attacked; as long as the board owner is on our side, we can defend ourselves.
6a56b1 No.518
It's a very bad situation but it shows we actually hurt them. Organizing and paying such an army of shills is no cheap task. They bleed.
8007a5 No.522
If there is a better alternative I would surely consider it, but 8chan is the best chan right now.
Why leave it when it is currently the best option..
2b82c8 No.523
If there's a better alternative I think we should consider moving. Right now I can't even look at /pol/ anymore it's just utter garbage everywhere. I've seen better threads on /b/ so that's how bad it is.
5e18d8 No.530
>>518Not really. Forum bombing has happened since at least the 2000s. Certain topics seem to trigger attacks, all over the web, globally. I've seen it happen to two German conspiracy forums (Same MO as for /pol/, up to including neopagan trolls).
57716c No.559
>>522As far as chans go, 8chan is the best. If you want to move, you should consider creating a private forum where you have a little more control over who gets to post and who doesn't (so it's easier to deal with attackers).
Part of the problem is chan "culture", though, so as long as your userbase consists mainly of ex-4chan/8chan users, you're going to have deal with people who think a meme is a good substitute for an argument.
>>530>neopagan trolls>trollsPerson with different beliefs than you =/= troll. #themoreyouknow
a2132b No.563
>>559For over 10 years, neopagans have helped destroying forums. I think it's safe to say that one should be careful around such riff-raff.
57716c No.565
>>563There's nothing inherently disruptive about being a neopagan. Maybe they "destroy forums" because people like you can't handle the fact that neopagans exist?
fae784 No.567
>>565For Christ's sake you come in here and post hashtags and shitty platitudes about how if we have a problem with you we're the problem as if we haven't already heard similair lies from the furries and bronies. Fuck off neopagan, your gods are worthless whores who didn't save your ancestors and certainly won't guide and guard you.
4ed2a3 No.568
>>567First of all, I'm an atheist. Not that it matters, but it's annoying how you immediately jump to the wrong conclusion because someone disagrees with you.
Secondly, yes I'm saying you're the problem, because your intolerance toward neopagans is what makes them a problem. It's people like you who destroy forums.
Thirdly, pagan gods are infinitely cooler than your kike on a stick (oooh, I insulted your god, better call me a shill now!).
453475 No.572
>>490I'm tired as hell too.
I've made tons of threads on meadhall, on 8chan, calling for normalcy, calling for a political party.
Just made one now,
http://8chan.co/pol/res/783615.html#q783615And it's swamped with bullshit.
fae784 No.573
>>572>calling for a political partyWhat the fuck is wrong with you. If you're serious about it organize it away from /pol/ so that you don't have cross contamination of morons who hang around your party and so the more malignant lurkers aren't alerted to your plans. But of course, tripfag, no wonder you chose the path of e-peen.
>>568He's not my god faggot but if you insist tip your fedora all the way back to shillistan Shlomo
59e762 No.583
>>568>atheistSame thing these days. If I had a dollar for every neopagan connected to atheism, I could give a fuck about all of this and relocate to Thailand.
>Secondly, yes I'm saying you're the problem, because your intolerance toward neopagans is what makes them a problem. It's people like you who destroy forums.>You natives are the problem with your intolerance towards immigrants! It will destroy your country!
>Thirdly, pagan gods are infinitely coolertop kek
068a44 No.586
>>573>f-fedora>s-shillYou're so predictable it hurts.
>>583>kekGo back to /b/, kid.
a967e9 No.669
>>490Set up extended networks.
Chats
Email lists
A Great Library
ff2adb No.670
He is doing it for popularity.
He deterred his cult from this opinion by saying otherwise, because he knows that'll only make them desire him more.
He appealed to the "Exodus". He did this because he knew it was a great opportunity to do it, since people were massively and emotionally affected by J00t's cuck sellout.
The handicap status was even better for him, since he could become a special snowflake to tug at their heartstrings like a guitar, which meant more donations for him.
He is egotistical: He boasted about his reply to Garrison's DMCA notice by letting the mods sticky his entire post onto /pol/. Not even J00t had that big of an ego to post that on 4chan.
He knew everyone else knew about this, so he let the mods sticky his response to /pol/ so his cult can call him "based" for the 20000th time and make more portraits of him out of his own arm blood.
Most of the Tor exit nodes have had bans on them for "CP". This is probably being done by the moderators in order to prevent any opposition problems.
The evidence is right in front of your face.
It's time to move on.
c95e68 No.671
I dislike the idea of another exodus, but at this point /pol/ is literally dead and copypaste (and doorways) is determined to keep it that way.
>>670Don't forget killing HTTPS and anonymous TOR access with Cloudflare.
c95e68 No.672
Just noticed this
>>>/meta/42903https://8chan.co/ronin.html
>8chan passit's ogre
e68ed1 No.673
6bc873 No.682
>>673Jesus, not even moot asks for that much (20$ per year).
33fd2e No.685
Oh shit. They've invade /polpol too. Whelp, time to abandon ship
e68ed1 No.686
>>685>less than 30 UID per board>invade 6bc873 No.723
>>685You think we're shills? Or someone else?
Address who you're talking to.
ec91b1 No.727
>>672Oh God. I'm laughing.
It's ogre, I agree. Whelp.
50c70f No.795
Isn't that what everyone who has ever posted on a chan has said at some point?
Changing domains is silly when you're already on a site that allows the creation of infinite boards. Surely you must realize that a community will always have some unpleasant events, or in this case a chan will always have some bad posts
50c70f No.796
>>673>If you are using a banned VPN or Tor nodeYou'd prefer to just be banned I guess?
3647a3 No.841
>>672but isnt that only for people who use tor?
5cd387 No.963
HW is nothing more than a businessman. To pretend he's your friend or anything more than someone providing a service is foolish. I could tell from the beginning that he was in it for himself, and I've been here since GG threads were nuked on 4chan.
He also likes shitposting, and has posted a few times with his "Administrator" post on /v/ to test if he was still banned.
I think you should stay for now. I've turned on Adblock again, since his video ads he put at the bottom of the page crash Palemoon.
ff9423 No.967
>>670>Most of the Tor exit nodes have had bans on them for "CP".Yes, because most of the faggots posting CP will naturally use those since it's easy.
This shit happens in real life too, assholes ruin things for everyone else, get over it.
>He is egotisticalHey, whoa, people have their own quirks? Holy shit sound the fucking alarms.
He is perfectly within his rights to be egotistical and if it bites him in the ass that will be that.
He doesn't let his arrogance get in the way of his administration.
Also posting as an anonymous within the rules in also his right, even if it is "shitposting".
Listen faggots, and I'm only gonna say this once as a person who's been around since the beginning.
This is a VERY natural response to the type of shit that goes on here. All the edgy kids, social contrarians and outcasts are gonna come to these boards and shit it up. It happened to /b/, it happened to /new/, it happened to /pol/ and it's going to happen again.
Because of the attention that /pol/ has gathered from making it's presence known to the plebs (of which the original users of pol can only blame themselves for) has obviously alerted both private and public organisations who, as it happens hold different opinions from our own and aren't afraid or morally disinclined to disrupt the flow of debate and information here.
You can bitch and whine about it all you want but here's the undeniable truth: you are not going to get your quality public image board.
The only way to make it work the way you want is to make it your private club, but then you'll become just like the people you despise.
You can keep moving but can you go on like that forever? You're going to spend lots of money, time, people and effort for eventually what will become a dead community with make ten people at most posting two times an hour.
Is there anything that we can do? I don't know. I honestly don't and the decline of /pol/ bothers me too but I'm not stupid enough to believe it's the fault of a cripple who in all honesty has better things to do with his time then shitpost and ruin the board for us, especially considering how lenient he's been towards /pol/ in the first place.
0651ce No.986
31aeb7 No.989
>>490Have some hope.
Backup your writings.
b880dd No.1000
>>670This, it's obvious he styles himself as some sort of Napoleon and is suppressing dissenters. What about
>>>/16chan/I mean it could turn out to be another 8ch but there's no better time to crash this plane than now. In any case chandwellers are going to have difficulty in the coming years for sure, now that Freddy is becoming the new Jewt it's hard to tell where we'll be in 10 years.
de07c6 No.1019
>>1000HotWheels has been based in every thread I have encountered him. He supports Eugenics while being a cripple, so he is more courageous than most. He earned my repect. Now, do people dislike CloudFlare and the site being down? Yes, but you pick one or the other. Do you hate having no image sharing when accessing the site via Tor? Well, too bad, some SJW false-flags ruined it for everyone. You want to bitch that HotWheels hasn't been anything but a bro? Nope, I don't see it. What I see is a little cripple-kike who loves freedom of speech. He wanted to make /pol/ a featured board and when the JIDF mewed that it was wrong he listened to what he thought was /pol/ and made /news+/. He has always erred on the side of supporting the users and then you have some ungrateful little assholes who say it isn't good enough. Well, how about you kill yourself?
97290a No.1020
>>1019>conveniently forgetting that "making /pol/ a featured board" included "remove all bans and make all bans 2 hours max from now on"m8
de07c6 No.1023
>>1020yea, yea… featured board status is the Holy Grail but people complained that everyone would come and shit it up too. Still, you can't dispense redpills while hiding out in muh sekrit clubhouse. Ya dun' goofed on that one, admit it.
97290a No.1026
>>1023No, because that sort of logic would mean that we should all go back to halfchan and dispense redpills there.
Quality is more important that quantity, anon.
de07c6 No.1034
>>1026Ideological purity, I believe in it too. What is the purpose of /pol/? It is the fiery hot molten extremes from which steely resolve is made. It is not a quiet backroom were we smoke cigars and drink Brandy, but you might be more comfortable in such a place… hell, we all would. But are there not enough boards to support this, even /polpol/? On /b/ the ass-ravaged proclaim that their haven is overrun by stormtards. Is this not victory? Can you not revel in it? On /tech/, everywhere, /pol/ has made some impact. Rejoice, the things we discuss do get out.
97290a No.1036
>>1034A lack of moderation does not encourage the thing you describe, anon. I again refer to halfpol.
5c7fa6 No.1063
>>493sounds like masterchan
164cbc No.1107
>>490>complain about moderation>"Wow this place is overrun by shills! (people who disagree with me)"Kill yourself.
b880dd No.1156
>>1019I'm sorry that you've only seen one side of him because I was like you too. You only need to look at how he is handling /int/ to realize that he has already crafted his little circlejerk hotpocket IRC a la every other dead chan out there including 4chan and is already succumbing to angst towards the userbase (for example by creating a faggoty capcode just because someone made an edit of one of his posts claiming that he fucked traps). The major boards
will (some already have) fall to hotpocket ruleshittery that he himself will actively prod on. 8ch will only be decent for the smaller boards IF it even grows beyond this point.
IF. We've already squeezed all we can out of 4chan and it seems like faggots are inviting Reddit over to play judging by some talk in /boards/.
What I'm saying is the future for 8ch ain't bright I'm sorry you are blinded by your love for a Jewish cripple.
328d39 No.1172
>>1156Fuck, I knew the little man was having sex with whores in his new home!
6fbd7f No.1341
>>573you are the cancer killing /pol/
65ee12 No.1472
>>567>all that autism>in one post 65ee12 No.1474
>>573Its faggots like you who are making /pol/ suck. You act just like SJW's. If a person isnt of your "faith", theyre trolls or whatever other faggot name you can come up with to deflect from your autism and dull mindedness.
TL;DR
Fuck off you fekin faggit
fae784 No.1590
>>1019It costs Hotwheels nothing to be in favor of eugenics since his idea of it is getting money for not having kids. He's advocating for personal gain not his death.
fae784 No.1596
>>1474>>1472>d-d-don't call people names, that's mean you AUTISTtop kek m8
dfff3b No.1658
How about deep web chans?
f7fcc4 No.1660
>>1658Worst kind of cancer, years ago, so with all the kids going there these days it must be worst than halfchan tbh.
dfff3b No.1664
>>1660Well there's still less kids there than on surface web
f7fcc4 No.1666
>>1664Hahaha to be honest I highly doubt it, you'd be surprised how much popularity something called "d33p w3bz" has on children, and how they would go just to go and say they browse it, I believe we are safer from cancer here than on a place that, anyways, already pretty much is illegal
or has anyone browsing/actively posting/hosting shit on it put under strict surveillance.
60f89e No.1926
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>>670This so much. Here's some insider info on what Wizardchan was like under his rule.
6517be No.1952
>>583
>illiterate Christian argument>top kekDid anyone NOT see that one coming?
OP, you're right. The faggots from /pol/ are already here.
f7fcc4 No.1954
>>1946Made me sad, so true :(
19eca7 No.1976
Hotwheels do show strong sign of vanity. And so did Moot. What you have to understand is that these folks were young nobodies who just decided to make a website because they could. They never were prepared in their life to take leadership and act accordingly. But, but. Hotwheels did also show is ability to deal with critical situations and secure the future of his site. He know who is his userbase and how to appeal them. It's remarkable for this little man and he deserve some credits for it.
8chan doesn't have the ideal system we seek for what we seem to need and it will probably never have it, well not in the short term future anyway. Maybe we will have to make our own, or maybe we will just have to become some kind of nomad community who will always find a way, somewhere in the cyberspace, where we can all sit down and talk for hour about interesting issues.
fdf45c No.1990
fdf45c No.1991
900ef0 No.2193
Has it occurred to the OP or ANYBODY that their fight is not to be fought on a device CREATED and FUNDED by the very system that begets their suffering?
I do hope you all realize I am talking about the Internet or any such device that communicates globally.
I mean honestly… We have all these people taking precautionary measures to hide their ass on here yet as time moves ahead we find that nothing remains hidden in this place and that there are "backdoors" even in our hardware. I mean seriously are hardcore Christian communities the only ones to realize this?
We all know nothing will get done if we all sit on the Internet all day talking about it.
ba169d No.2199
>>490If you hate opposition and freedom of speech that much, why not set up a system whereby you need an ID and login to post, and a mechanism for, let's say, "downvoting" unpopular posts so they don't hurt your feelings?
900ef0 No.2201
>>2199Fuck that.
We should all get off the Internet and actually commit ourselves to action.
f45429 No.2257
>>2199OP should probably go back to Reddit, yeah.
900ef0 No.2258
>>2201>>2193Of course the only LOGICAL conclusion to the problem you people face on here is ignored. Only because you're all too fucking blinded and coddled.
Y'all are no diff from blacks on welfare.
fd3a68 No.2287
>>967>The only way to make it work the way you want is to make it your private club, but then you'll become just like the people you despise.that's why we need to be a secret club, not a private one
as in anyone who knows about us can post, but we try to remain as low key as possible
we also need a very powerful and strict groups of mods to maintain quality
shitposters are banned easily enough, and shills won't come to a place they don't know about.
i advise we strongly consider no longer calling ourselves /pol/
it draws far too much attention, especially from shills.
fd3a68 No.2289
>>1990>>1991i'm a natsoc, but even i can't stand the rampant brainless stormfaggotry on /pol/
there's been a sudden surge of a very particular brand of shitposting lately
one i strongly suspect is underageb&
900ef0 No.2310
Hopeless.
This is the only word to describe the lot of people on any /pol/
da4c0b No.2312
a31223 No.2374
>>2258We need to stop living like zoo animals. We must earn our survival. And all this free money our governments give us should not be wasted on trivial things: learn to fight, learn to grow food. Learn autonomy. Learn to live as a human being. As an animal. Not a pet.
>>2193Just got in my hands some very old laptop who was used in some big corporation and designed for maximum security. Well, not an American corporation nor American hardware by the way. The point being, if you want something you can get it if the opportunity arise. We are not there to take action, but to discuss, first and foremost. I completely agree with you that real action shouldn't involve information technology. Well not until there is decent preparation hardware and network wise and a strong leadership. Decentralized movement are just to easy to hijack.
f7fcc4 No.2412
>>2289I agree so much. To be honest, what happened on /pol/ pushed me away from National Socialism more than anything else I've witnessed in the past, and I find it very deplorable, because they got me (and most people) in the first place advocating for that political opinion for the very reason that THEY were the only ones using facts and logic to prove their points, instead of appealing to emotions or ridicule, which is now the only thing they are capable of.
08a0e8 No.2422
>>2412I don't think they were the national socialists who used /pol/ before the influx of new users. Like you, the probably began to get away from the ideology. It is probably a survival mechanism to get away from a group of people who show a bad behavior. That is the first reason why most of the western population have a great disgust for this ideology in the first place. Maybe it was planned to make the board like this by somebody with an agenda or maybe it just happened.
I do think this made you natsoc folks more stronger than ever. You will learn from this and improve. And who know, you may maybe even end up by creating a whole new movement based on your former beliefs? This would be one of the greatest achievement of the /pol/ community. And making it, at the beginning at least, devoid from any stereotype. If we all make the effort to create discussion and content with great quality I think we can do, intellectually speaking, great things. We need some optimist and hope, at least.
0feedc No.2428
>>2287i would like to amend my idea by suggesting that we do keep /pol/ alive in some form, but we need to be in charge of it.
specifically only the most intelligent, articulate, and based among us should be mods.
/pol/ will be the public face of our group, and it will be how we guide and redpill the pleb masses.
if Orwell was right about anything, it's that most people are like the proles.
mindless worker drones, who need guidance from those above them.
never forget that national socialism is fascist.
we must become the fascist inner circle.
we must guide this movement.
we must gain power, maintain it, and eventually expand it.
we must start meeting, with some regularity, out in the real world somewhere, and organize real change.
above all else, we must not fear to use the same underhanded tactics often used by our enemies who are currently in power; at least until we are strong enough to no longer need to.
propaganda is an overwhelmingly powerful tool that i believe we are not properly utilizing.
the means to get our message out to millions are at our fingertips.
keep in mind that we do not necessarily need to waste our time trying to use logic on those too stupid to properly comprehend logic themselves.
ethos and especially pathos will be our greatest tools.
don't waste your time throwing pearls before swine.
900ef0 No.2442
>>2374I do not believe that any network or anything that has been given by the system to its workers, consumers, or what have you, to be safe or is able to be hacked for your benefits. I think that no matter what it is their edge that they are giving to you. It's similar to how the Trojans took the horse. Even a network that is only local and disconnected from the web is not safe.
I do agree we should learn to be independent but still as a cohesive group. Autonomy is an important aspect of a strong community or tribe if you will. I think we ought to bring back the good ol' memory. Keep what we need to know with a technique used to memorize a plethora of things in a short amount of time. This is something anyone can learn to do too.
>>2422The west has great disgust for this ideology because the common person is being subjected to multiple types of influence over the course of time. It doesn't help it was drilled into the educational system in the past and that is ringing true still today because propaganda is just that powerful.
900ef0 No.2443
>>2442One might wonder why I am vehemently and adamantly against using these things to discuss such material. I am being hypocritical only because there is the chance I might convince someone else to abandon this and start doing some real discussion in reality.
0feedc No.2445
>>2442>>2443you know you can browse chans AND talk to people in real world as well right?
900ef0 No.2478
>>2445Ya of course but HOW much do you think the average user of any political board such as this is going out and actively producing meaningful discussion that will produce more meaningful actions?
I know you're trying to be smart with me but abandon your humor and inanity for the sake of this question.
900ef0 No.2479
>>2442Also I hope I don't come off as some sort of Luddite. I am not arguing for the destruction of any technology or any such madness.
0feedc No.2481
>>2478i've heard quite a few people on /pol/ say they've talked to their family and friends. more than a few of them even ended up converting those family/friends.
the only reason it's not happening on a large scale is because we're not out there making it happen.
we're not organized, we're not active, and we're not getting anything done at the moment.
what frustrates me is that fact that we could be.
i've tried several times to get shit started, but everyone is so apathetic and/or lazy and they basically ignore me or refuse to put in any real meaningful effort.
if we could get people off their asses, we could get some real change going.
96d645 No.2482
>>490If you keep running, then they have won.
/pol/ is the last battleground for ideas.
It's not the place to start a political party, or organize a campaign.
It's the first, last, only place to propagate the red pill.
The mods do what they can, but they're human too.
Don't give up guys.
0feedc No.2486
>>2428>>2478>>2481also, i've had an idea for a long time now.
it would require massive amounts of time and effort, and would be a very long term project, but i honestly believe it's how we could take control of the system, were it to actually work.
this plan is written assuming we want a natsoc outcome btw. sorry to everyone else it should be our ultimate goal.
just bear with me here.
first of all we need to get some of us into american politics, and we would do whatever it takes to get these people to the top.
we would pretend to be republicans/democrats.
whichever was more likely to get us elected wherever it is we are running.
we would advocate whatever policies were the most popular, lie and cheat our way to the top, and be the best good goys possible.
basically your average politician once we're at the top, we would make it much easier to get our associates to the top.
once we control the majority of congress, and get some people onto the supreme court, we go for the presidency as well.
once we're at this point, we start very quietly passing a particular set of laws.
they would be hidden as small footnotes written in complex legalese in other rather unremarkable laws, the kind that nobody ever really bothers to read.
they would, put very bluntly, be designed so that we can freeze the bank accounts, arrest, and execute whoever we want; as well as take direct control over all forms of news media.
we then hold a gigantic high society ball/party/whatever the fuck these people go to.
we make sure everyone of importance is there.
all the top bankers
all the CEOs
all the kikes, and their puppets.
while they're at the party, we freeze their bank accounts, arrest them, and proceed to have them executed.
normally these people get out of any trouble conceivable through money and connections.
they have no money now.
all their connections are either dying alongside them, or have been on our side the whole time.
we then take control of the media, and make sure no media agency reports this happening.
after that, one of our politicians will "come out" as now being affiliated with a third party.
our party.
we will have fake, controlled opposition to this new party.
eventually more of our people will "convert" to this party.
finally all of us will be part of this new party.
we now begin the process of rewriting the country's laws to be natsoc.
we now completely control the system in the US.
we proceed to expand to other countries at our discretion.
and before you write this off as ridiculous and impossible, i want you to stop and think about something for a moment.
how do you think the people in charge now, got there?
by slowly taking over the whole system over a long period of time.
by sneaking in laws in that favored them.
by having anyone who opposed them killed.
it goes without saying that this would by no means be easy.
it would be hands down, the largest and most difficult project we could possibly undertake.
but god damn, it really is the only way.
starting honestly, from the grassroots up won't work.
look what happened to ron paul.
an outright revolution would never happen.
the people are too complacent to rebel.
this idea
or a variation on this idea, if any of you are willing to share ideas. is the only way we can win.
900ef0 No.2491
>>2486The problem with your plan is that you discuss it with the enemy openly and willingly. If you wish to accomplish anything you must do so offline first. This is how it has to be; there is no other way.
900ef0 No.2492
>>2486More so I agree with National Socialism for the most part but I do not think we can be National Socialists with how deeply the people are induced into a trance. You MUST understand that the current war that is actually happening right now is on the mind. It is very important we realize this or else our efforts will bare no fruit.
5cd387 No.2493
>>2486The problem is that's a social engineering project that would require massive amounts of time, money, and effort, as well as an iron will from those involved to not be broken and remolded by America's strongly conformist political system. Even the Tea Party, with its power brokers and billions of dollars funding it, has yet to actually "make it to the top," as you say.
If you're talking about American politics, what's key is affecting things at the state level. Open the door for more third party voices to muddy the discussion. Eliminate as many benefits as the Big Two enjoy as you can. Then, when chaos starts to set in, rise to the top with empty promises of bread and circuses.
These battles are not won with a top-down approach, but the seeds must be planted at the bottom, then grow up.
0feedc No.2494
>>2491there's a very minimal amount of people on this board, i think we're good.
i seriously doubt that 20 years down the line someone powerful is going to notice some politician acting suspiciously, and immediately realize "holy shit the plan from /polpol/ all those years ago is coming true!"
>>2493that would require massive amounts of time, money, and effort, as well as an iron will from those involved to not be broken and remolded by America's strongly conformist political system.
as i stated, it would be the largest and most difficult project we could possibly undertake. also, as far as money goes, we would require a lot of start-up money, but once we're high up enough well…
corrupt politicians tend to rake in tons and tons of fucking money in case you haven't noticed.
>Even the Tea Party, with its power brokers and billions of dollars funding it, has yet to actually "make it to the top," as you say.that's because it's a third party
it's fighting against the system
it's swimming against the current
we wouldn't be facing that problem
>If you're talking about American politics, what's key is affecting things at the state level. Open the door for more third party voices to muddy the discussion. Eliminate as many benefits as the Big Two enjoy as you can. Then, when chaos starts to set in, rise to the top with empty promises of bread and circuses.the thing is, you can only change so much at the state level before you either get shut down by those more powerful, or you stop getting votes.
the chances of a natsoc party even getting elected in the first place is extremely improbable.
this must be done covertly
there is no way for it to be done overtly any more.
>These battles are not won with a top-down approach, but the seeds must be planted at the bottom, then grow up.i plan on stealing the whole farm at gunpoint
0feedc No.2495
>>2494accidentally forgot to greentext that first part
sorry about that
ada59c No.2497
>>2494I don't know anon. I could cap this if you want and send it to the media or the american president or whoever else. I could keep it in the back of mind and say 'i told you so!' and i would be paid handsomely for it when the pieces of the puzzle begin to fit. Like it or not, we know what you're doing
900ef0 No.2502
>>2494I mean I know that humans aren't all reaching but the system is. Sorry but your plan stinks and will fail like anything else when laid bare to witness for all.
900ef0 No.2503
>>2494>>2502I also don't think you understand the scope of the system's reach. If Google has web crawlers scouring the internet 24/7 365 days of the year for bullshit then what makes you think the current regime in place isn't actively looking for threats to it?
900ef0 No.2504
>>2503>>2502I hate to make the system sound like this all powerful entity… But that's because it is. We've been living with it for eons. Even through the rise and fall of many civilizations; here we are still living under the same system with different names each time… Hm, imagine that. I wonder why, though, it is not a surprise as it is seemingly a commonality to be stupid and starry eyed in the face of truth.
My friends if one wishes to succeed then we must have no doubt in our minds that we can and we should be wise in our efforts. Using the internet is only beneficial to learning but other than that? It is just one of the many tools made for control.
0feedc No.2505
>>2497>>2502>>2503you guys seriously sound like paranoid schizophrenics
yes the NSA is real
yes watchlists are real
yes shills are real
but god damn, just because they have access to everything written on the internet doesn't mean they actually sit down and read every single sentence of this shit
especially on the more obscure corners
for fucks sake not only is 8chan relatively obscure, but /polpol/ literally has less than 100 users
i could see how you might be worried if i was posting this to /pol/, but you i think you seriously overestimate how important the people in charge consider you to be.
unless you know for a fact that you or someone else browsing this board is under 24/7 surveillance for suspected terrorism or something, there is absolutely minimal risk in me posting that here.
for fuck's sake the government has a hard enough time policing shit they actually give a fuck about like CP.
900ef0 No.2506
>>2505Dawg, paranoia is a trait for survival and what do you even know of schizophrenia? Don't answer those questions because they're rhetorical and will only get us off tangent. I'm not worried about anything being posted here because nothing will come to fruition from here.
But I wanna give you a lesson in history my friend. Anybody who opposes the system or puts people on common ground is killed outright if they do not adhere to their pleasures or fears. I won't name anybody for you but I'll give you a hint: The most infamous one starts with the letter J.
900ef0 No.2507
>>2505Also again you gotta be a fuckin idiot to think the Internet is in safe at all for people who want to actively change this system. I'm trying to be the voice of reason here and you're only coming at me with 'paranoid schizophrenics.'
A term made to deface and discredit.
Not to mention the fact that schizophrenia itself is very misunderstood. Like most of psychology it would seem.
900ef0 No.2508
>>2505Also anyone in charge doesn't give a fuck about us because we aren't DOING anything. Get that through your thick skull and stop throwing around mental problems as if you understand them.
0feedc No.2509
>>2506>I'm not worried about anything being posted here because nothing will come to fruition from here.it doesn't matter whether or not anything is coming to fruition
they are paying literally 0 attention to us regardless, because they don't even know about us.
>But I wanna give you a lesson in history my friend. Anybody who opposes the system or puts people on common ground is killed outright if they do not adhere to their pleasures or fears.now you're just full of shit
anyone who opposes the system and has the power to do anything is killed
it's not just any faggot who goes around organizing minor protests and shit.
if that was the case me and my whole family would have been dead years ago.
>I won't name anybody for you but I'll give you a hint: The most infamous one starts with the letter J.stop with this "look how mysterious and knowledgeable i am" shit.
no i don't know who this J person is.
there are literally thousands of famous people with names that start with J, of course i don't know who the fuck you're talking about.
>>2507>Also again you gotta be a fuckin idiot to think the Internet is in safe at all for people who want to actively change this system.i never said it was
you'd have to be crazy to post what i posted to anywhere of relevance.
but we are literally posting on some obscure board on the back end of the internet that literally less than 100 people even know exists.
>I'm trying to be the voice of reason here and you're only coming at me with 'paranoid schizophrenics.'you're not saying anything reasonable though
and "voice of reason"?
jesus christ man get off your fucking high horse.
>A term made to deface and discredit.>Not to mention the fact that schizophrenia itself is very misunderstood. Like most of psychology it would seem.next you'll be telling me how bad it is to call people who aren't really autistic autists
>>2508>Also anyone in charge doesn't give a fuck about us because we aren't DOING anythingnever said we were
i just proposed a plan i think would be successful were it to be carried out
do i think it's actually going to happen?
fuck no.
i just thought it was a good idea.
>Get that through your thick skull and stop throwing around mental problems as if you understand them. it seems i really struck a nerve with that schizophrenic comment. you seem really offended by it for whatever reason. 08a0e8 No.2593
>>2509
>because they don't even know about usLurk more and you will begin to feel like some post are attempt to evaluate our reactions, this is the first phase which is developing a guidebook about how to shill efficiently in a particular setting. I will be honest, I suspect you, please don't take it personally, better be paranoid than sorry. Keep in mind this is not an accusation, but rather the way I feel.
>just proposed a plan i think would be successful were it to be carried outJust consider the fact that numerous plan designed by people in current position of power and who are used to design them don't always go as planned. And it take them a great amount of time and human resources just to design them in the first place. We should avoid such arrogance to think we can pull plans with such scale without any real experience. A board free of "shills" is already a big task to do. We have to acknowledge our inability, for the time being, to do anything relevant in the meatspace.
By the way we can still discuss hypothetical plans like these. But the purpose of this board isn't to push a particular agenda. I think many people here have their own agenda, it wouldn't be fair if we were to push one.
You can't trust people on the internet, even if you know who they are. And you don't build trust by talking but by being exposed to danger, regardless of it's form, and constantly overcoming it. And avoid people who often say "I will blablabla", they don't even know what they are doing. You guys tend to think you can have follower by saying the right stuff, like if you were a politician asking for votes. People will follow you regardless of your agenda as long as they trust your ability to overcome adversity and lead them. Talking is good when you already have follower so you can raise morale or show off for posterity.
Good luck to you, as long as deep inside in your guts, it is burning, there is hope for you to get shit done.
900ef0 No.2611
>>2509>minor protests I'm talking about the kind of person who gathers everyone under the sun and puts them on common ground. Somebody like Jesus, Hitler, Martin Luther King, or anybody with the ability to speak to somebody, change their heart/mind, and get them to come with them. The system does not like this at all because it doesn't allow for the control of people.
I don't think you look at things logically, because, you still fail to understand the scope of technologies reach in today's present moment. I am on no high horse and you should not say that I am; otherwise you have put me up high on it. But really you do throw the term schizophrenia around like it is nothing. When in combination with the word 'paranoid' it is very much a tactic to deface, demonize, and discredit someone. You struck no nerves with me my friend. Only that you caught the attention of a drunk person who is wholly tired of dealing with ignorant persons such as yourself.
900ef0 No.2612
>>2509The ass end of the internet does also not qualify as this board. If it shows up on Google it is not 'apart' of the ass end of the internet. Furthermore just by STATING that you really show how much you don't know about the technologies being used today.
900ef0 No.2613
>>2509Honestly do you even read what I say or just spout bullshit and put greentext everywhere as though it will somehow validate your insane reasoning?
900ef0 No.2615
>>2593People will follow as long as you provide them a smile, a form of salvation, and that they will somehow be saved. Give them their pleasures while preying on their fears.
b154f4 No.2619
>>2615You are talking about mob, I am talking about people who will actively help you and save your ass. Everyone in position of power (be it corporate, political, criminal, whatever) belong to a pack. With your fancy smiles you only will end up predated or forced to pledge allegiance. Because nobody trust each other in such structures, to pledge allegiance is to provide them enough material for them to blackmail you so the group can act accordingly when you're beginning to become a threat.
Now think about it, if your expertise is to make the mass follow you, your utility will probably be limited to this task. You will only end up being just another puppet. You do not even will have to know you are a puppet.
Now, let's suppose you manage to avoid all of this AND manage to be known by a great deal of people, the truth is that they do not care. People care about bread and circus. They will say you are right, that you deserve to lead them, that they cannot take it anymore. But they will do nothing. They will not change their daily routine for you. They will not endanger their security for you. Especially when they have children to feed.
By the way, I think we should create a specific thread for further discussion about these issues and go back to the initial topic in this one.
ed4aa9 No.2622
/pol/ has gone to shit, I can't stand the natsoc, jews and other circlejerks
ada59c No.2626
>>2509So you're a risk-taker are you anon?
0feedc No.2628
7b7ceb No.6943
>>2492There is no hope for winning against the Zionist-globalist system if people can't even be made to see the truth about NatSoc and the history of the war era.
33071a No.6958
>>2626This idea, although on the face of it outrageaous, is really (once you think about it for a long time) what could only work. Personally, I had thought that something like this could happen in the future, but never made any plans. I am just going into the military, not an enlisted, but officer academy. I do hope, and will support, any coup such as that. Once /pol/ ages I hope we can form a network, I will support it. We are only beginning.
5994ce No.6982
>>1946shut the fuck up, you fucking 12yrs old, if you don´t know about what you speak.
The orginal chan audience always did it for the lulz but it still was quality content most of the time…
The meme requiered actual work like EFG comics and the trolls were time intensive but massiv win, only with time the little faggot kids came and shited up 4chan mostly /b/ which was never good but bettween meh and the shithole of the internet are galaxys…. so fuck off little kid if you dont know what this was about.
I think anybody can take a GOOD troll/joke here. The problem is 99,9999% of all jokes are already reposted to death and nobody brothers to think of a good troll/joke himself.
Fucking reddit/9gag and facebook cancer today, thinking unqualitative shitposting is 4chan culture…
pic related one of efg´s life storys
31aeb7 No.9579
>>490Apply for mod or make a new board.
What is there to be tired off you haven't lifted your ass.
d79247 No.9675
>>493that's not an imageboard
that's a 90s style forum
1acdad No.13994
It's very hard to find good online communities, that are interested
in not just whining and complaining, but discussing what can actually be done.
You can talk all you want about how you hate niggers (stormfront, coontown),
modern society (neoreactionary and darkenlightement crap), etc
but it's a complete waste of time without action. You might as well masturbate,
that's all you're doing, except mentally.
8ch.net/pol/ and halfchan's /pol/ are almost a complete waste of time,
along with pretty much every other board here. It's not worth the effort
trying to find a diamond in a shitpile. Really, I need to find some good
communities, I browse raypeatforum.com and news.ycombinator.com everyday
and a few IRCs but they're pretty slow.
It's sad that all the good communities of old have died, everybody who
was a good contributor got a job and the sites were slowly invaded by
normalfags and SJWs.
I've been browsing 8ch.net/fringe/ lately, some interesting stuff (among
their bullshit). Meditation is quite helpful and some writings as well that
can really show you a new perspective.
5007bf No.14003
>>1019
>so he is more courageous than most
Many disadvantaged people do the same, because its the right thing.
You sound like you have an attachment to him.
65bef4 No.14006
>>13994
Aaand here comes the /fringe/ bullshit. Again. Just like always.
31aeb7 No.14023
>>9675
i dont even get chats that require registrations anymore
its so pointless and obsolete
5b89c4 No.15045
>>559
SJw Judean spotted! Proceed with caution with this filth!
1e814d No.15049
>>490
If our communities suck its because of all the /lefypol/ /polpol/ /pol+/ /natsoc/ /insertsecretclubhere/ /insert/pol/insert/
We have tons of quality threads just not at the same place. If all polacks returned to 4chan pol it would be the best board the same way that if we made a /shitpissnfuckingdimbshit/ board and had everyone post there I would be just a good but we are split so we need to dig for quality threads and once we find them they are next to dead because its on a board whit no traffic.
That being said I don't give a fuck il just continue lurking sporadically
4ae0a0 No.15069
000000 No.15090
>>15049
>>15069
>4/pol/
>post-cluckening
No thanks, faggots. At least we can have quality discussion here without bait; shitposting; gb2/pol/; corrupt, opaque moderation; and the containment board mentality.
000000 No.15099
166708 No.15102
>>490
>>493
I've been thinking about how to create a community without the problems mentioned and I have a few ideas:
a) the concept of a "shield". A shield would be a place for the general population and for trolls where they could come and shit the place up. There are already "shields" out there: 4chan is a shield for 8chan. When we had less people from 4chan on 8chan the level of the discussion was much higher, however nowadays, after various exoduses we have people sharing the OP's feelings. The main problem is how do you create a shield though?
b) high barrier of entry (a filter): If you make a board hard to access it will filter out people who are dumb (because they will be unable to piece everything together) and you'll weed out shitposters, since why would they invest time and energy to get on your board if they can come to /pol/ for example and do the same with much less effort?.
c) two-step barrier of entry: this would go against the nature of the chans, since it would involve a way of identifying oneself (perhaps PGP could be useful here?), but basically you would lead on the people thinking they got into your secret club (and can now reveal their true intentions) while having a super secret club (which is the real deal).
Obviously it wouldn't be perfect and a lot of selection would have to be involved, but that's impossible to have an open board without shitposting and people trying to ruin the fun. Unfortunately it seems that there has to be a trade-off involved.
31aeb7 No.15113
>>15102
secret clubs not needed thx
52dcc6 No.15118
No, we've moved boards before, we've moved sites before and very little has changed. As long as a legitimate center of discussion exists on serious, forbidden topics like international jewry, world government, up to date info on wars and false-flags, and greater discussion of ideology and sociopolitical issues, we will be under attack. Shills, halfchan retards, DDOS attacks, bots, sliding thread spam have followed us from 4chan /pol/ to 8chan /pol/ and the boards are now identical in content (or lack thereof).
We're in the best possible position right now if the board moderator remains a strong hand. Our obscurity keeps those that wish to subvert mostly focused on other endeavors, /pol/ weeds out most of the trash and there's a good incentive to provide content. Hotwheels might fag it up behind the scene, but we'll burn that bridge when we come to it.
>>15099
Apparently the reddit overlords deleted his thread and maybe shadowbanned him. Quite amusing.
0ce554 No.15143
>>1156
You can't spell cIRClejerk without IRC
0ce554 No.15144
>>15143
And the spammer that caused the current captcha stuff was an IRC butt-buddy of HW. Spammer seem to have a long cancerous history of fucking with chan and furry communities going back quite a long time (not that I care about furries but I do kind of care because fuck trolls). I don't necessarily have a problem with the once a 24/hr captcha, as it may cut out some automated shills etc, but the problem that forced the captcha was probably preventable by HW telling said shill to fuck off. Instead of that, HW posted the cIRClejerk logs and notified everybody the best way to spam the site, which made the DNSBL/blacklist absolutely necessary.
I've always had a (maybe tinfoil) kind of suspicion that CAPTCHA acts something like a signature, at least partially making your comments more legally significant. That might be a topic for another thread but we seem to be heading in a direction where that discussion may be more important
000000 No.15162
>>15144
>I've always had a (maybe tinfoil) kind of suspicion that CAPTCHA acts something like a signature, at least partially making your comments more legally significant.
Well, it definitely was on 4chaim. Their captcha got worse and worse (and less necessary) as the years went by after it was implemented, especially after the Pass came about. I've heard these days you actually need to be signed-in to a Google account to solve it, which wouldn't surprise me, because you used to sometimes get the (much) harder ink-blot captchas, which /g/entoomen found went away after you signed-in to a Google account.
000000 No.15163
>>15144
>>15162
And obviously, there was no reason for moot to pick Google captcha, when he could have had his (very incompetent) developer write a simple replacement, like the kike on wheels did here.
0ce554 No.15207
>>15163
I always figured halfchan was slow on the development and new features due to government…
If you know what I mean
cbe828 No.15467
>>2486
in essence, hasn't this already happened?
the jews/ruling class pretty much have us all over a barrel now don't they?
7d6616 No.15476
>>490
Excellent poast
/pol/ is effectively ruined nao. Moving to other places reduces our coverage and impact and capacity for collective action. 8wheelz must make a move or he's either in on the flood of nice guys and turd world shitpoasters or he's been Newtered.
The last month is emblematic. We now have Syrian/Russian propagandists duking it out with the state department, occupying most of the catalog
ffd671 No.15480
>/pol/ sux now
>8chan is ruined
>welp that's it i'm done
>time to go
>back to cuckchan
>i'm leaving
>no hope
>no future
>hotpockets
>blah blah blah
Classic divide and conquer bullshit.
/pol/ has been cleaned up by HW now. /intl/ has taken a hit and mod has been replaced. What more do you want?
000000 No.15481
>>15480
>/pol/ has been cleaned up by HW now
Are you serious? He was the original problem.
Cripple and his fanboys can have their "shill paranoia free" /pol/, but don't expect anyone who wants meaningful discussion to have anything to do with it.
1d9f52 No.15491
rules are bad. people trying to help by making more rules will always kill a community. just enjoy the small but slow polpol
c3a941 No.15494
>>15491
>rules are bad.
Yes, let's turn every board into /b/ and let spammers and shills run free, then everyone will have a great time and meaningful, informative discussions.
a46926 No.15495
you guys are worse than ISIL, full sharia law, no fun allowed
52dcc6 No.15496
>>15495
Hey man, someone's gotta keep it real.
624488 No.15990
We just need a good old fashioned forum.
dbeca7 No.15995
>>2486
Am getting real tired of these 'call to action' posts and threads. Even the retards are lurking /polpol/,
Anyway, in my opinion.
Burn /pol/ to the ground. Let weak people be weak, its way to much to carry.
Your focus should be on improving yourself. If you used your eyes twice as often as your hands on these chans, you got some solid info to work with. Yield it and create wealth.
Most of you understand the past, you get the present and you can predict the future. What else do you anons need?
Also, stop being so fucking goddamn pessimistic all the time. Work on your mindset ffs.
4b5d7b No.15996
>>15995
I got banned for making fun of them in that cancerous thread about trying to take the anonymous image then they responded by spamming the board and reporting me. Board owner either doesn't mind the cancer or is in on it I suppose. I at least trolled them hard enough to spam the board again.
ea286c No.16014
>>518
This
>>572
/meadhall/ would be an excellent place to "ally" with in the event of another exodus.
>>669
This
>>673
>65 USD per year
nope.jpeg
>>967
This
>>1019
THIS
>>15476
Also this
>>15995
I'm okay with this
31aeb7 No.16022
>>16014
>/meadhall/ would be an excellent place to "ally" with in the event of another exodus.
Automatic country flags, even when you can turn them off, are annoying.
953f3a No.16497
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>>490
Its actually much worse now than you thought it was back in Dec 2014
/pol/ knows 8chan is the last stop. Hotdud knows this. His /pol/ hotpockets know this. Hotdud is in the same situation as Moot was in 2013. He hates /pol/ for the same reasons.
thing is, there's nowhere else to go now. So not only is /pol/ too big to fail, there's no more migrations. If a migration didn't happen in April, then it never will. 3000 users are not going to migrate, and the Hotpockets lording over them certainly won't allow that. That's exactly what April was, a cabal of Hotdud, his installed /pol/ hotpockets and /intl/ shills working together to undermine the /pol/ community. And because there are no options, Hotdud will continue to do this, minus the Maddog that slipped its leash, /intl/, who is now irrelevant. Only a Gamergate-tier happening could trigger a real change.
07942f No.16530
701aca No.16533
>>16497
>Only a Gamergate-tier happening could trigger a real change.
To be honest, that has always been the case, no matter where you are. We always pride ourselves as being above the masses when we fall into the same traps. The news like what you've posted will cause an uproar for about a day or two, then it's back to business as usual. Same thing in the real world. You don't hear about KONY 2012 anymore, or that dentist who killed a lion, or even the confederate flag shit.
The thing is, we as people like comfort. We don't like change, whether it be a mental change or an actual physical change. We like our hugbox. We won't change unless either we have to, or the rest of society appears to be changing.
Gamergate was an interesting phenomenon. In retrospect, it's a miracle it grew as big as it did. It didn't achieve this on it's own however. I believe what a 4chan mod said was correct; that if they had just left gamergate alone, it would've fizzled out and died as users lost interest. But by banning discussion, they caused a shitstorm the likes of which hasn't been seen in an age on the interwebs.
Now, we come to our predicament: because hotwheels is so laissez-faire with his moderation, the odds of a Streisand effect happening here is very slim.
Any information, no matter how incriminating, will ever be powerful enough to force an exodus unless the globals go full retard and B&D the evidence. With the quantity of posts, all they need to do is bumplock a thread and the shitposters will bury it.
81c980 No.16592
Hi.. dev here
I once played with they Idea of writing a p2p imageboard, but never bothered because I cbf doing it all myself (need buy in from other interested devs).
Another alternative would be to develop a protocol based chan system, where the production of content is decoupled from the moderation. (You can apply whatever filtering service / algorithm you chose).
A new future for chans needs totally new technology imo. but yeah cbf doing it by myself.
c52c57 No.16617
>>490
>For a time I felt good. /pol/'s quality was like it was years ago if not better, we had webms with sound and text formatting and hotwheels was a based admin who wasn't a total faggot like moot because he liked free speech.
>
> I don't feel good now. Shitposters and shills run rampant across /pol/ as bad as they ever were, the mods are once again faggots,
You realize 8chan was great before the migration from 4, and after the migration it turned to shit.
Gee, I wonder what caused that!