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917161 No.5397

‘’’WW3/Yemen Conflict Thread #1: Copypased from /pol/ edition‘’’

‘’’Last thread: ‘’’
>>1595798
https://archive.today/m2zWy

‘’’Did Yemen cause the tides to turn between Egypt and Saudi? ‘’’
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/did-yemen-cause-tides-turn-between-egypt-and-saudi-777367245

http://gulfbusiness.com/2015/03/saudi-arabias-yemen-gamble-may-define-regional-role-years/#.VReX6L-eep0
>Saudi Arabia’s enormous firepower during the last war with the Houthis was described by the U.S. Riyadh embassy in a cable leaked to WikiLeaks as “imprecise” and “minimally effective”.
>A senior U.S. official told Reuters on Thursday the latest operation was a “panic response” by Riyadh to the fast-deteriorating situation in Yemen and that the coalition had been assembled so quickly its effectiveness was in doubt.

http://www.thenational.ae/no-let-up-in-yemen-as-saudi-led-coalition-targets-sanaa-airport
>Despite setbacks, Houthi militants and pro-Saleh forces are pressing their offensive in south Yemen in an apparent attempt to draw coalition strikes away from northern areas including Saada, the stronghold of the Houthis. The Houthis took control of two military bases in Lowder and Shuqrah districts of the southern Abyan province on Sunday. There were fierce clashes on Saturday between Houthi and pro-Hadi fighters for control of Mokha port, just 40 kilometres north of the strategic Bab El Mandab Strait.
>The Houthis currently control the port and sent more than 1,000 reinforcements. In the north, the coalition struck at seven different locations in Saada province bordering Saudi Arabia. The attacks forced the Houthis to move hundreds of fighters to Al Malaheeth, a district close to the border. Houthi officials told The National a ground invasion by Saudi Arabia was now only a matter of time.


‘’’Houthi-Yemen documentary‘’’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwBme5IiK1g


From previous threads

Live Updates
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/03/yemen-aden-saudi-arabia-150327174924579.html
http://rt.com/news/244185-yemen-conflict-gulf-rebels/
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContentP/1/126295/Egypt/Live-updates-Addressing-Arab-summit,-Sisi-calls-fo.aspx
http://mideast.liveuamap.com/

>Houthis getting close to Aden still advancing
https://twitter.com/alguneid/status/581883297036267520
https://twitter.com/alguneid/status/581906909638189056
https://twitter.com/ammar82/status/581924327911596033
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/03/arab-league-tackles-saudi-led-air-strikes-yemen-150328072254413.html


Russian Nuclear forces moved
http://asia.rbth.com/news/2015/03/26/defense_ministry_iskander-m_missiles_moved_from_orenburg_to_sverdlovsk_r_44768.html

917161 No.5398


Egyptian Navy and Iranian Navy Exchange Fire in Gulf of Aden
http://defence-blog.com/?p=4448

>Moscow is ready to do everything possible so that the conflict does not turn into a larger conflict between Arab states and Iran.

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150331/1020243943.html

>US ARMY Hardware begins to enter UKRAINE. (Russia has said this is act of war if happened.)
http://defence-blog.com/?p=4404

>So here's the deal. As we all know a few months ago the government of yemen collapsed. What has happened next is right out of a tom clancy novel on ww3.

>Iran russia and some of BRICS have chosen to back the houthi rebels in yemen, who are vying for control of the capital and seaports and oil fields. The US and anit houthi coalition, consisting of the saudis egypt and quatar, have chosen to backed the somewhat dodgy al quadia backed "yemen security forces" against the houthis.

>Initially this was just a proxy war. But now its rapidly escalating. The Iranians have been using the babab el mendib straight to re supply their side. The egyptians got wise to this and blockaded their convoy. The result? There is now an open naval engagement with warning shots and everything between egyptian and iranian naval forces, which are now deadlocked in a standoff in the straight.

>Significant factors
>The us has diverted the carl s vinson carrier strike group and LHD 1 to the area. According to this strafor report another carrier group may be leaving for the area from the UK within the week:

>From: https://www.stratfor.com/sample/analysis/us-naval-update-map-march-26-2015
>Carrier Strike Groups
>The USS Carl Vinson CSG with CVW 17 embarked is underway in the U.S. 5th Fleet AOR supporting maritime security operations and conducting theater security cooperation efforts.
>The USS Theodore Roosevelt with CVW 1 embarked is on a scheduled port visit to Portsmouth, United Kingdom, before a deployment to the Middle East.
>The USS John C. Stennis is underway in the Pacific Ocean for a Tailored Ship's Training Availability and Final Evaluation Period.

>Amphibious Ready Groups/Marine Expeditionary Units

>The USS Iwo Jima ARG with the 24th MEU embarked is underway for a deployment in the U.S. 5th Fleet AOR supporting maritime security operations and conducting theater security cooperation efforts.
>The USS Essex ARG with the 15th MEU embarked is underway in the Pacific Ocean conducting a Composite Training Unit Exercise.
>The USS Bonhomme Richard is underway in the Pacific Ocean.
>The USS Wasp is underway in the Atlantic Ocean for a Missile Exercise.
>The USS America is underway in the Pacific Ocean for Final Contract Trials off the coast of southern California.
>The USS Boxer is underway in the Pacific Ocean for sea trials.

>Russian naval group movments

>The russian navy is deploying a strike group to the area:
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/yemen/egypt-warships-head-to-gulf-of-aden-sudan-to-take-part-in-operation-storm-of-resolve-1.1479293
>http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/16/402054/Russia-orders-Northern-Fleet-on-alert

917161 No.5411

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>It is clear the situation is deteriorating rapidly. Cuckchan pol has been relatively on the ball about this one. However, they do not have all the information, nor are they sharing well. So I figured we deserve our own thread.

>Reminder to monitor websdr: http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/?volume=0#
>The site now lists US EAM channels, Russian channels, and iranian and egyptian military channels.


>From the cuckchan thread
>Info Dump:

>Saudi and co bomb Yemen, Turkey, UK and USA support the initiative
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2015/03/saudi-ambassador-announces-military-operation-yemen-150325234138956.html

>Houthis seize CIA intel files

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-us-intelligence-yemen-20150325-story.html#page=1

>President Hadi left Aden today, fleeing in a boat to Djibouti
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCMQqQIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Freport-rebels-seize-yemen-air-used-al-qaida-073203837.html&ei=RycTVcyqBM_gaNG2gsgM&usg=AFQjCNFIFAdmGQhbZVgbWN5glLQ5CSxOZw&bvm=bv.89217033,d.d2s

>UN envoy says Yemen on 'rapid downward spiral' as tensions rise
http://www.sabanews.net/en/news392208.htm

>Yemen, long on the brink of catastrophe, may have tipped over the edge
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/23/yemen-brink-catastrophe-mosque-attacks-civil-war

>Yemen Descends Into Chaos As Foreign Minister Seeks Help From Neighbors
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/03/23/394828777/yemen-descends-into-chaos-as-foreign-minister-seeks-help-from-neighbors

>British Special Forces Pull Out Of Yemen
http://news.sky.com/story/1450747/british-special-forces-pull-out-of-yemen

>U.S. Confirms Military Withdrawal From Yemen
http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-confirms-special-operations-forces-withdrawal-from-yemen-1427046997

>ISIS claims increasing stake in Yemen carnage
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-yemen-carnage-houthi-rebels-advance-in-aqap-territory-toward-hadi/

>Yemen foes square off as fears of war, Saudi-Iran rivalry grow
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/23/us-yemen-security-forces-idUSKBN0MJ1GR20150323

>Houthis seek ties with Iran, Russia and China
http://www.wsj.com/articles/yemens-houthis-seek-iran-russia-and-china-ties-1425664867
>Yemeni forces have shot down a jet
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/27/403633/Fighter-jet-downed-near-Yemens-Sanaa
>Saudi General Says Operation Decisive Storm Phase 1 Goals Achieved -

http://susris.com/2015/03/27/saudi-general-says-operation-decisive-storm-phase-1-goals-achieved

>Nathan J Hunt @ISNJH · 26m 26 minutes ago

>For now main goal of Saudi operations in Yemen seem aimed at destroying air defense network, and storage sites of ballistic missiles.

>Nathan J Hunt @ISNJH · 24m 24 minutes ago

>With main goal of creating air control over Yemen while reducing capability of forces in Yemen to be able to respond to aircraft..

(https://twitter.com/ISNJH)
http://www.arabnews.com/columns/news/724306
http://www.arabnews.com/columns/news/724291Reminder
>Russia has prepositioned naval bases in the area already.
http://www.welt.de/english-news/article3039085/Russia-plans-navy-bases-in-Syria-Libyia-Yemen.html

917161 No.5412

>Russian fleets on alert
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/16/402054/Russia-orders-Northern-Fleet-on-alert
http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/270320151
>"We support Saudi Arabia's intervention," Erdoğan said. "Turkey may consider providing logistical support, depending on how the situation evolves,” he added.

>Erdogan warned in his press conference that Iran must withdraw whatever forces it has in Yemen and Syria, and accused Tehran of trying to take over Iraq.

>"Iran has to … withdraw any forces, whatever it has in Yemen, as well as Syria and Iraq and respect their territorial integrity."

>He accused Iran of fighting to oust the Islamic State – or Daesh – in Iraq in order to boost its own power. Iran has “a sectarian agenda,” he said. Tehran “wants to fill the void that will be created by Daesh,” he added.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/193293#.VRXrI7-eep0
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/march/26/yemen-exploding-is-the-stage-set-for-the-big-war/
https://archive.today/05EiT
http://www.nationalinterest.org/feature/why-us-intervention-tikrit-mistake-12496
>The United States has joined the battle for Tikrit by bombing ISIS positions, gambling that the move will strengthen its badly eroded influence in Iraq, rather than undermine it further by handing the Iran-backed Shia militias a victory that will make them even more powerful. By asking for U.S. intervention, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi is also gambling that U.S. intervention will be decisive in the success of the stalled battle, inflicting a major defeat on ISIS and humiliating the Iran-backed militias that, despite all their swagger, have proven unable to completely liberate the town.

>If the Badr Brigade and other militias remain in the fight, the danger that the offensive would collapse on the ground, despite U.S. air support, would decrease, but the United States would find itself in a de facto alliance with Iran. This would further anger the Arab countries of the Gulf, which already suspect the United States of being willing to turn the security of the region over to Iran. The fact that Sunni participation in the battle for Tikrit has been minimal does not help.

>The most positive outcome would be one in which the militias withdraw in protest, but a surge in the presence of Iraqi troops (special forces are reported to be on their way to Tikrit) carries the day, with Tikrit being liberated not by Iran-backed militias, but by the U.S.-backed Iraqi military. Judging on the United States’ own estimates of the conditions of the Iraqi army, it is not a likely scenario. U.S. intervention in the battle for Tikrit is not likely to pay off for either Abadi or Washington.
>http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Saudi-airstrikes-in-Yemen-target-rebel-stronghold-6162519.php#photo-7720971
https://archive.today/FHUNK
http://susris.com/2015/03/27/saudi-general-says-operation-decisive-storm-phase-1-goals-achieved/
>Saudi Arabia claims it took 15 minutes to establish total control of Yemeni airspace and no ground troops are going in.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/28-Mar-2015/no-decision-yet-on-sending-troops-to-saudi-arabia-for-yemen-assault
>Pakis are trying to stay out, maybe because they have a sizable Shiite minority.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/27/403632/Pakistanis-blast-Saudi-invasion-of-Yemen
>Iran says the UN should step in and Pakistan has been having Shiite protests against the war.
>UPDATE:
>Shiite Houthi forces shot down Saudi Arabia-led coalition jet in #Yemen, Sudanese pilot arrested.

http://rt.com/news/244185-yemen-conflict-gulf-rebels/

Reminder Military Radio Guide
>>1574824
EAM channels
http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/?volume=0#

Channels to monitor

US EAM CHANNELS
1. 8992 PACOM
2. 6739 AFB
3. 6712 EFB
4. 4712 ATLCOM
5. 15016
6. 13200
7. 11175
8. 4724

Russian military channels/other

1. 4625 the buzzer
2. 5473.00 squeaky wheel
3. 4581.32 Russian data transmitter
4. 4608.91 (related in this range) Russian beeper
5. 6366.44 Unknown, possible military data channel

Others:
1. 8985.16 AFB/EAM burst data transmissions
2. 9338.44 Burst data
3. 9123.09 Military morse/burst data

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=won1okeV6sM#t=55

62b15c No.5458

I think America is really at a standstill between wanting to get Iran on their side and help weaken the BRICS bank, and the desire to both help Israel's zionist goals, and keeping Saudi Arabia pleased by letting them take on a rival religious sect. Think of it like a battle for dominance between economic necessity and religious ideology.

62b15c No.5500

Anyways, here's some loose news from my search last night. (I was the guy originally trying to make the Yemen thread)

https://archive.today/aw19K
Houthis gains more ground, is attacking by sea
https://archive.today/VLwJj
Saudis use war as excuse to show off new toys
https://archive.today/Bbf6H
Saudi Arabia accidentally bombs refugee camp (lel)
https://archive.today/Uonba
Commie nerds warn that war in yemen will lead to saudi overexertion and destruction
https://archive.today/oNNL0
CNN says situation could escalate into full-blown war with Iran.

68d62c No.5707

>>5397
Thank you anon for devoting your time to this, I have been focused on Syria and Ukraine I don't know shit about the Saudi-Yemen crisis at the moment.

62b15c No.6563

Bump for some actual fucking discussion on this board, as opposed to jerking off, and bitching about how /int/ screwed us.

917161 No.6711

>>5707
Merely copy pasted from /pol/, it'd be a shame if such a collection of good links ended up as useless due to shitposting.

Additionally I wonder how this relates with the nuclear deal that the US seems like it soon will be able to strike with Iran. Does anyone have any good links for that?

62b15c No.6713

>>6711
There's a thread up about it, on page 5 or so. Das juden are fucking pissed.

d2bb8b No.6951

Oh man, I was completely in the dark about this one. Just thought it was another daily "rebels overthrow their government" war in the middle east. This shit's getting interesting.

b20de9 No.6993

>>6713
No wonder they are, Iran ought to have at least nuclear weapons to be able to at least have a MAD strategy against Israel (though I wonder if that will ever come to truly be able to happen). Now, with the recent thign of Israel joining that China-created bank against the wishes of the US I wonder how this could all develop. I feel like I don't know nearly enough about the geopolitics of the area to successfully be able to scan through everything.

>>6951
From what I understand it's practically a proxy war between Saudi Arabia and Iran for the expanse of their spheres of influence. Which, if you consider how it's going down with ISIS and in Syria it gains importance.

62b15c No.7104

>>6993
I don't think MAD would really count, because Israel already has that whole samson option thing going, but it would act as a nice ticker against Israeli agression in the area, and it would be a huge threat to the zionist dream of Greater Israel.

b20de9 No.7197

>>7104
I realise (Israel has too much weaponry and nukes for it to truly be like the US and the USSR amongst others. I just really like the thought of somebody in the region finally managing to stand up against them, and considering the geopolitical situation it might as well be Iran.

178fe3 No.7939

>US citizen killed in Yemen by mortar strike, believed to be 1st American killed in current violence - @cnnbrk
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/05/africa/u-s-citizen-killed-in-yemen/index.html

82e235 No.9405

>>7939
Has the US government announced or started any serious actions over this?

2d98b1 No.9412

>>9405
It varies on what they've said, at some points they discuss
simply supporting Saudi's actions but otherwise they
claim they can't do much with them being help up in
the Iran business

1d7272 No.9419

>>9405
I saw an headline saying the death was due to Saudi bombing, but I just went looking and this article says it was due to mortar strikes. Anyways, the US isn't even evacuating citizens, merely giving a travel warning and asking people to leave via private means.

https://archive.today/rihdN

39ab18 No.9929

https://archive.today/St2pB

>Red Cross given permission to deliver aid to Yemen. Saudi-led military coalition to allow medical supplies and aid workers into Yemen, as Houthi rebels flag peace talks.

61e3fe No.10463

US needs to tread carefully here, Saudi Arabia keeps the rest of OPEC on the petrodollar. Without that the dollar would seriously devalue.

7eb073 No.11657

U.S. expands intelligence sharing with Saudis in Yemen operation (via Reuters 2hrs ago)

>The United States is expanding its intelligence-sharing with Saudi Arabia to provide more information about potential targets in the kingdom's air campaign against Houthi militias in Yemen, U.S. officials told Reuters.

https://archive.today/7Vsi5

7eb073 No.11660

US media also seems to be hyping the Americans stuck in Yemen thing, WH still says they have no plans to rescue. I kinda suspect they are waiting for it to turn into a more serious crisis before they go in, for some reason. Sometimes it really seems that Obama intentionally waits until he's being criticized heavily before doing something. Like, he makes his own controversies


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