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File: 1428029977002.png (363.05 KB, 699x757, 699:757, theemeraldpill2clean.png)

aaedab No.5976[View All]

This thread is for discussion on diets, nutrition, fitness, health and how they relate to the health of a nation. Having healthy, fit citizens is very important for a nation, to see a nation in decline because of their health you need to look no further than the white once and now fat and diseased United States of America.


What is fitness? Being fit means

>Competency in biomotor abilities (strength, endurance, power, flexibility, balance, speed, agility, coordination) in relation to needs or goals

>Muscle size, body composition, and activity level that matches needs or goals, not societal definitions or pressures
>Mobile joints & relaxed muscles
>Natural spinal and body alignment fostered by strong bones
>Effortless nasal, diaphragmatic breathing
>Efficient digestion and elimination
>Healthy heart and good circulation (strong pulse and warm extremities, tip of nose)
>Rarely experience sickness
>Excellent sleep, libido, and fertility
>Relaxed yet focused mind
>Positive outlook


Common diets include:
Paleo
Keto
Mediterranean
Vegan
Peaterian (http://pastebin.com/GmsEHYqX)



Interesting nutrition and health articles

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsaturatedfats.shtml
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fats-functions-malfunctions.shtml
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fats-functions-malfunctions.shtml
http://raypeat.com/articles/nutrition/oils-in-context.shtml
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fats-degeneration3.shtml
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsuitablefats.shtml
http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/diabetes.shtml
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0VofcVk_8I
https://pranarupa.wordpress.com/2012/12/25/pufa-because-this-wouldnt-be-a-ray-peat-themed-blog-without-at-least-one-post-on-pufa/
http://criticalmas.com/2013/11/problem-pufa/
http://katedeering.com/archives/1076
http://www.thenutritioncoach.com.au/anti-ageing/age-sweetly/



Common nutritional myths and rumors

>saturated fats are bad and polyunsaturated fats are good (a myth pushed by the seed oil industry to sell their products)

>sugary foods (such as orange juice) are bad for you/make you fat
>'complex carbs' (ie starch, pure glucose) are a superior source of energy to sugar (glucose + fructose)
>fructose is toxic (yes, it is, when you give mice absurd amounts they die from an overdose, just like when you drink 10 liters of water, you'll die)
>white meat is healthier than red meat (if you're consuming a lot, white meat is generally better than red but you shouldn't be consuming a lot of meat anyways. red meat has a lot more nutrients than white meat)
>aspirin causes stomach ulcers (pushed by pharmaceutical industry because paracetamol [which kills your liver] and ibuprofen are more profitable than aspirin)
>margarine is healthier than butter
>salt/sodium is unhealthy
>cholesterol is unhealthy and will clog your arteries, even in small amounts
>having a low resting pulse (under 75) indicates good health
>dairy is inherently unhealthy for you
>caffeine and coffee are unhealthy
>you need vegetables for a healthy diet (they're almost always beneficial but they're by no means NECESSARY)
121 posts and 18 image replies omitted. Click reply to view.

337113 No.10945

>>6417
so are hotpockets associated with shills?

337113 No.10948

File: 1428605565089.gif (81.23 KB, 1288x1368, 161:171, accupressure.gif)

contributing pics

337113 No.10950

File: 1428605623238.jpg (826.49 KB, 700x3000, 7:30, bad stuff.jpg)

just don't eat bad
stuff

ed2a64 No.10951

File: 1428605682569.jpg (16.31 KB, 626x352, 313:176, Vomit_Addition_AFTER.jpg)

>>10922
From my experience, it's good for your skin, but it's not something to really obsess over.

>putting it in coffee/tea

337113 No.10952

File: 1428605699363.jpg (233.37 KB, 756x1323, 4:7, clean.jpg)

>>10950
stay clean

337113 No.10954

File: 1428605763242.png (268.95 KB, 784x1050, 56:75, coke.png)

>>5976
OP why the fuck is Coke in your diet

337113 No.10957

File: 1428605798384.jpg (248.94 KB, 1266x750, 211:125, cravings.jpg)

don't trust your brain

c7f107 No.10958

>>10951

eh, it is strange but it adds a bit of sweetness.

looking at YT videos and articles it is very conflicting just like any other food item.

337113 No.10959

File: 1428605853234.jpg (748.84 KB, 1400x1557, 1400:1557, easy bread.jpg)

like i always say

make the bread, buy the butter

337113 No.10961

File: 1428605912857.png (1.23 MB, 1754x1240, 877:620, food chemistry.png)


392d9b No.10964

File: 1428606052418.gif (179.18 KB, 500x378, 250:189, 1426731017473-1.jpg.gif)

>>10954
I drink a Mexican coke once a month.

Those fuckers are so good with steak.

337113 No.10968

File: 1428606217594.png (1.2 MB, 600x1114, 300:557, growin tomatoes.png)

>>10964

Well, moderation is key.

4d00fc No.10969

>>10952
You could boil this down to:
1)Make your bed every day
2)Wash your sheets once a week in hot water

The Lysol stuff is absurd. It has ingredients that irritate and possibly make asthma worse. This is just one bothersome ingredient

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkyl_%28C12-C18%29_dimethylbenzylammonium_chloride

I wouldn't even use that shit in a bathroom, the only cleaning stuff you need in a house is bleach, ammonia, dishsoap, some abrasive.

337113 No.10971

File: 1428606326397.jpg (290.96 KB, 647x3193, 647:3193, lol fat people.jpg)


337113 No.10972

File: 1428606362705.png (83.74 KB, 1745x770, 349:154, less than 2000.png)


337113 No.10977

File: 1428606954056.jpg (916.31 KB, 1489x2321, 1489:2321, mucsles.jpg)


337113 No.10978

File: 1428606988962.jpg (848.25 KB, 1492x2312, 373:578, muscles 2.jpg)


337113 No.10982

File: 1428607630204.jpg (946.39 KB, 1800x2320, 45:58, rolls.jpg)

are rolls allowed if it's for the better?

337113 No.10983

File: 1428607694457.jpg (1.79 MB, 2084x4576, 521:1144, running.jpg)


337113 No.10995

File: 1428608552972.jpg (119.44 KB, 553x783, 553:783, veggie cooking.jpg)


21bc8b No.11005

>>10982
Challenge accepted and I roll a….

21bc8b No.11007

>>11005
>Challenge accepted and I roll a….
Push-ups

14b91d No.11008


1dd913 No.11035

So can we confirm that sugar is to /polpolfit/ as bread is to /fit/?

fdcf3a No.11090

Daily reminder we have a thread on /polarchive/ in dire need of more information
>>>/polarchive/474
Anyone have some resources from /baphomet/ other than the shit in the stickies? Would be very useful for the thread

>>6143
On the infograph, positive for what? Looks a lot like some information is missing on it.

2900a0 No.11170

>>10922
Good for cooking with
>>10950
>animal rennet is bad
Fuck off
>>10954
This is so fucking wrong

00cfcb No.11173

>>11035
nutritionally speaking, what do you mean by this term "sugar"
there are complex sugars and simple sugars and different types
sugar is another word for carbohydrate technically

sugar = cane sugar = refined table sugar? that kind sucks

09c9a7 No.11350

>>11173
He's probably saying glucose+fructose combinations.

392d9b No.11499

File: 1428685000833.jpg (233.84 KB, 839x685, 839:685, 1426727836180-0.jpg)

>>10968
>Not growing san marzano
It's like you enjoy bitter sauce.

c00328 No.11513

>>11499
This image is beyond retarded.

00cfcb No.11761

>>11513
I've never seen anyone other than shitposters trash the image. It is literally the history of the USA and the "official" adoption of asymmetric warfare.

09c9a7 No.12972

>>9194
Nice meme!

449c97 No.12980

>>9528
High-fructuose corn syrope is known to cause cancer. What are you implying?

453a77 No.13031

>>12980
We're talking about cane sugar, not HFCS.

6c36e8 No.13074

That emerald pill diet is pretty pleb if the end goal is maximizing androgen production

low fat diets are garbage. High sugar just because it comes from fruit is not healthy, and high sugars means chronically high insulin which means hampered sex hormone production.

Carbohydrates are almost always an energy substrate, beyond that they are useless. Fats and proteins (in that order, this new age "everything should be protein" is dumb bullshit propagated by the fitness industry to make people buy expensive shit) should be the focus with carbohydrates supporting intense activity.

The recent capitulation by the AHA and other health "authorities" has demonstrated the demonizing of fats by the medical community for the past 80+ years has been decidedly wrong, and may even have adversely affected peoples health. At any rate, the takeaway is that not only are fats not unhealthy, most types are almost always have positive health benefits.

I'm not a keto fanatic, because keto cultists are retarded and theres no need to be in ketosis 24/7, but the animal fat content of peoples diets needs to come UP and the sugar content needs to go DOWN.

I'm not suggesting carb phobia, but the average person is not an elite athlete. They don't need to be stuffing their face with gigantic amount of sugars/carbs all day long.

We also desperately need to increase the vitamin K in western diet, especially the MK4 form.

In short to get better androgen production: increase vitamin d3 intake (get out into the sun you fucking aspie), increase animal fat intake, lower sugar intake (rule of thumb is eat suitable for what you have done, and what you are about to do), increase intake of olive oil and coconut oil (as in consume the oil, not cook with them), supplement with zinc, boron and vitamin C (or just eat citrus fruits).

Zinc is a potent aromatase inhibitor and a decent 5AR inhibitor at high dosages. DHT is not evil but excessively high DHT or high estradiol are indicative of a, or several, nutrient deficiencies, mostly commonly a lack of zinc.

674cac No.13136

>>13074
>high sugars means chronically high insulin which means hampered sex hormone production.
Fructose inhibits stimulation of insulin and insulin is not that important, very overblown.
>Carbohydrates are almost always an energy substrate, beyond that they are useless
WOW RLY
>Fats and proteins (in that order, this new age "everything should be protein" is dumb bullshit propagated by the fitness industry to make people buy expensive shit) should be the focus with carbohydrates supporting intense activity.
Yea, this is basic nutrition…
>The recent capitulation by the AHA and other health "authorities" has demonstrated the demonizing of fats by the medical community for the past 80+ years has been decidedly wrong, and may even have adversely affected peoples health. At any rate, the takeaway is that not only are fats not unhealthy, most types are almost always have positive health benefits.
Saturated fat is still demonized by 99% of mainstream nutrition. PUFA is demonized by none. Mainstream nutrition is a joke.
>the animal fat content of peoples diets needs to come UP
Nope. The amount of fat REQUIRED is very low, as is the OPTIMAL amount, unless you can provide solid evidence showing that fat should be really high (you can't, by the way, because the evidence doesn't exist).
>They don't need to be stuffing their face with gigantic amount of sugars/carbs all day long.
Everybody should be exercising everyday and it's beneficial to lift weights, so if they have the time and money, should be lifting too, under that, most people should be eating lots of sugar+carbs. Even then, living sedentary, it's not like you should be eating no carbs.
>We also desperately need to increase the vitamin K in western diet, especially the MK4 form.
First thing I agree with you.
>increase vitamin d3 intake
yes
>increase animal fat intake
NO, you get by far enough from meat+dairy+seafood+eggs.
>lower sugar intake
NO, unless you're not doing anything, you need that energy and sugar has many positive health benefits.
>increase intake of olive oil and coconut oil
Uh, I can you if you want, like a teaspoon-tablespoon but anything over that is excessive.

There's no solid evidence to back that most of your diet (unless you're keto) should be mostly fats. Generally, carbs (sugar specifically from fruits and fruit juice are best, honey is ok and white sugar the worst) are easier to digest and provide more positive health benefits.

5129f7 No.13138

File: 1429233093526.jpg (225.65 KB, 1120x1120, 1:1, tmp_16967-IMG_20150416_110….jpg)

>>5976
>high carbs

LeL, trying to keep people on the sugar roller coaster?

May be useful for getting ripped, but will make those trying to lose their obesity hungry. High fat, high protein, mostly carb-phobic, will keep the obese full from breakfast to dinner (skipping lunch)!

It does for my fat ass, and I'm eating less calories thanks to it…

5129f7 No.13139

LoL my last post was relevant to the OP image. The OP text is way more sane…

Carry on!

5129f7 No.13142

>>10969

I should add, do NOT mix the bleach and ammonia or you're going to have a very bad time!

3d4a18 No.13231

>>13138
What roller coaster?

00cfcb No.13266

>>13138
Long term your body functions best on carb rich diet. That doesn't mean that potatoes and white bread are all you should eat. And it specifically means avoiding all modern snack foods that are chocolates candy cookies

00cfcb No.13267

>>13074
You need a balance of fats and carbs after 20-25% protein ratio
90g fat = 810 calories
for a 2500 calorie diet with 25% from protein
that leaves 1065 calories for carbs
~42%carbs
~25% protein (its common practice not to count proteins from low quality protein sources such as breads, rice, berries, fruits, veggies)
~32% fat

58ee03 No.13370

File: 1429522375226.jpeg (13.64 KB, 233x350, 233:350, skeleton.jpeg)

>>13267

>2500 calories


2900a0 No.13851

File: 1430041321769.png (289.76 KB, 696x574, 348:287, theemeraldpill-personal.png)

Latest version of emerald pill


ae7ba3 No.13859

>>13138

It doesn't. You're just an autist lying to yourself.

Want to get fit? Here:

>Disregard anything /fit/ says. It's useless at best and damaging at worst.

>Make a clear goal (Get better at sports, get strong, get more endurance…) and train towards it

>Your training must be geared towards your goal (eg. if you want a strong punch, do boxing instead of powerlifting as /fit/ would advise). However, if you only train in a functional way, you will sooner or later get muscular imbalances.

>Thus, do unfunctional exercises as few days per week. Bodyweight exercises suffice here, usually. The program doesn't need to be anything scientific, just do a few sets of push ups, dips, etc. (Look up the "On the side" training of Chinese weightlifters, for example).

>Powerlifting is generally bad, especially if you do it /fit/-style, because it's very specialized and doesn't have carry over to sports: Powerlifting is max strength training, while sports usually need speed-strength or strength-endurance.

>Strict form is usually a non-issue, no pro athlete cares, only internet autists care.

>Diet: Eat what does you good. Everyone is different, calorie model is outdated, fad diets are bullshit. When in doubt, train and eat more.

>You will never reach your ideal physique unless you roid more than Arnold did in his prime, deal with it. Your ideal is the reuslt of liberal media programming your brain (Look up what counted as muscular just 20 years ago).

>Most of your time should be spent doing martial arts. A sport that is not applicable to combat is just a waste of time we cannot afford nowadays. What martial art exactly doesn't really matter - what matters is your psychology. A fighter can kill people with a TKD-Aikido mix, while a non-fighter will get beaten up even after decades of training MMA.

Believe it or not, I don't care. If you wanna listen to /fit/ autists instead, be my guest, but don't start crying when it doesn't work. Since you read this post, you cannot say that you didn't know better.


3cbfe6 No.13861

>>13370

My eyes!!!

They burn!!!

>mfw people actually think that looking like that is ok


2900a0 No.13862

>>13859

>Strict form is usually a non-issue, no pro athlete cares, only internet autists care.

Good form is important but "muh purfect form" doesn't matter

>Most of your time should be spent doing martial arts.

Disagreed unless you're planning to get into fights, which is a bad idea, or live in a nigger-filled area, in that case, your time would be better spent earning money and moving the fuck out ASAP.


453a77 No.15067

bump


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167cbd No.15103

File: 1432752591651.jpg (10.85 KB, 206x150, 103:75, sageman.jpg)

If you think there is a diet suited for everyone, you are an illusory faggot.




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