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ee6521 No.7494

I was thinking this would be an interesting topic

Through my ventures in /pol/, there was a lot of talk about conspiracies and such. Your typical "Jews are Behind It" and that sort of thing. I use to not really believe in much of them ever since I first heard about the 9/11 conspiracy years back but as technology advanced and how more information popped into the internet, it's pretty terrifying how much of all this is true. Yet I'm still undecided because well I don't want to believe that an entire race of people (and I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE) is convinced to eradicate us all and control us, but yet more info about it pops up.

Though I mean hell, /pol/ got me hating the entire Muslim religion so there's that.

I don't know, do you have guys have certain conspiracies that you used to think was bullshit but suddenly believe?

e28536 No.7632

>muh personal blog
We aren't arguing that every single Jew is in on it anyway. Jews Jew 'lower' Jews all the fucking time, even in the official holocaust doctrine the Zionists threw the Jews remaining in Europe under the bus as a sacrifice for future Israel.

Lurk more, faggot.

df84d7 No.7659

the whole tinfoil hat conspiracy meme has been pushed for this reason.

people with common interests pull together to achieve goals. if being caught would be a problem, then they do so in secret. conspiracies are natural.

that doesn't mean be incredulous, but it's interesting how 'conspiracy' was made a bad word.

6d1c7d No.7668

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>>7494
**Conspiracies that were proven to be true
- Operation AJAX and false flag terror
- Gulf of Tonkin
- Operation Gladio
- Operation Northwoods
- The Gleiwitz Incident
- Tobacco companies deliberately added addictive chemicals to cigarettes
- Operation Fast and Furious
- NSA spying & mass surveillance
- CIA Drug Trafficking
- The CIA’s heart attack gun
- Fascist conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. government
- The FBI crime lab cover-up
- The existence of the Mafia
- The FBI poisoned alcohol during prohibition
- The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment
- The USS Liberty
- Germany’s claim that the Lusitania was carrying munitions
- The Lavon Affair
- Geoengineering**
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fce2fd No.7685

>>7659
Manipulating language is one of the most important ways to control the public at large, the SJWs do exactly the same thing without understanding the powers they're using.

At this point I'm willing to at least give an ear to anything short of aliens and lizardmen. No matter how crazy it sounds, reality is more bizarre than any fiction I've ever read.

6ab140 No.7696

>>7494
>Yet I'm still undecided because well I don't want to believe that an entire race of people (and I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE) is convinced to eradicate us all and control us
No one believes this. Race-based antisemitism that has been the predominant variety since at least the late 19th century is based on the ideas that would later be articulated by academics like Frank Salter relating to ethnic interests and conflicts in general (and now Kevin MacDonald in regards to Jews specifically.

There is no Jewish conspiracy per se, just an invasive foreign race collectively acting in its' own interests at the expense of competitor groups. The philosemitic counter isn't the impossibility of a conspiracy, but the lack of existence of essential racial traits in humans, that can be empirically observed in every other (sub)species and that given that there are no distinctions between human groups there is no competition between them either.

The two stances are not believing in a conspiracy theory or not, they are acceptance or denial of science.

a2be29 No.7707

>Yet I'm still undecided because well I don't want to believe that an entire race of people (and I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE)

Why would someone believe in such a stupid thing? Obviously, not all Jews are involved in these 'schemes', but they're still extremely over-represented in things like media, politics, finance, etc. This is mostly because of ethnic-networking and the fact that Jews have a natural inclination to try to subvert their host nations I believe.

d037e5 No.7953

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>>7707
This.

They majority of them are not even consciously aware of what they are doing to other races.

Their society and culture has evolved to be a successful parasite. They are subconsciously trained to be nepotistic, racial supremacists from birth because it is beneficial to their evolutionary progress.

496b54 No.7962

>>7494
>Yet I'm still undecided because well I don't want to believe that an entire race of people (and I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE) is convinced to eradicate us all and control us, but yet more info about it pops up.
A case of cognitive dissonance. Get rid of it by accepting the truth that's in front of you. The truth doesn't care about your "stance" on it.

a80af7 No.8052

>>7707
>Why would someone believe in such a stupid thing?
Because that's the strawman they use to silence critics of Jews.

f66ee1 No.8595

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Used to laugh my ass off at masonic conspiracies, now I feel nothing but hate for the masons.

d53803 No.8699

>>8595

Speaking of which, outside of the actual Illuminati (Bavarians, people, not fucking Jay Z), and the P2 Lodge, are there any documented cases of actual Masonic conspiracies other than some version of "look how many important people are also Masons?" I haven't come across any that were more than innuendo and am curious.

cb561a No.8776

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>>7494
First you will need to define conspiracy.
The legitimate definition is: a group of people acting together for a common goal not announced to the public. Most definitions will add "unlawful" to that as if it had any meaning.
Though if you take "unlawful" as part of the definition then a bunch of people planning to go rave on E are in a conspiracy.

So people add "theory" to the term so it is a conspiracy theory. Here an unscientific definition of theory is required for it to make sense because a scientific theory would mean that conspiracies that have been revealed and proven are now conspiracy theories. Theory in the laymans terms means something like hypothesis or a yet unproven idea.
What people mean when they try to use the term conspiracy or conspiracy theory as an insult is that they somehow know that this plan did not happen even though they lack the data. If you think about that then it really has no power over a rational discussion because it is the definition of a buzzword; ambiguous meaning and definition and assumed authority and knowledge on the part of the accuser.

What people mean when they start using buzzwords like conspiracy theory is "anything I don't believe is not real and you are crazy to disagree with me".
Now back in the 50s when there were studies both for negative and positive effects of smoking cigarettes no rational individual that looked at all the studies would just sweepingly dismiss the negative ones. So why is that done today for all the known chemicals added to food that may either be in extreme amounts compared to natural levels or simply synthetic and toxin in any dose?

As for political conspiracies I would return to the unlawful part. Most of what you do can be found to be unlawful in some way to at least your local bylaws unless you use law as a bible and fanatically read it every morning before acting.

It is not a "guess" or a hypothesis that jews have been pushing multiculturalism.
It is not a "guess" or hypothesis that soy and soy derived ingredients deregulate your hormonal system.
It is not a "guess" or hypothesis that the net effects of complicated tax codes that can be bypassed by international corporate legal teams but not by the average man cause you to get poorer if you are not already near the top and actively jumping hoops.
It is not a "guess" or hypothesis that society as you know it has a European flavour including all the internet and developed cities.
It is not a "guess" or hypothesis that when all of Europe and the irrefutably European countries like America, Canada and Australia get flooded with non Europeans that the world will change drastically.
It is not a "guess" or hypothesis that many people with billions of dollars at their personal disposal become insane with power as they age.
It is not a "guess" or hypothesis that modern Main Stream Media is a tool heavily manipulated for jewish interests.
It is not a "guess" or hypothesis that genocide can occur by indirect means and is happening right now on all European people.
It is not a "guess" or hypothesis that feeding unlimited welfare to the laziest and dumbest of society causes future generations to have higher ratio of those incompetent people.
It is not a "guess" or hypothesis that international banking and fiat currency is designed to finance all this destruction.
The military industrial complex where soldiers die for psychosocial experiments and corporate investments is confirmed.

None of this is as earlier defined is unproven and much of it is openly discussed through euphemisms like overpopulation and equality.

So you ask for conspiracies which is people asking together for a common goal not announced to the public, look at the facts and draw conclusions. Even the rational definition of conspiracy doesn't apply to these rarely discussed plans and systems because it is not hidden or secret, it just isn't popularized except in fiction. Why would something that is known to be happening be reinforced as fiction in Main Stream Media? If you want to say that it is innocent, random, and unconnected then you may in fact be involved in believing unproven things. In all these cases disproven things. It is not an accident that pesticides get used on crops even though we have studies that in as little as a decade lands without pesticide use and without monoculture crops end up outproducing the others. There are groups that get satisfaction from exerting control and they have far more power than they need just to live comfortable and luxurious lives.

79e649 No.13495

>>7494

Found this over at 32:

It seems very obvious to me that there are hidden groups of people who have been orchestrating world events for the past century or so.

There is a series of factual statements with which most (if not all) people can agree that, when seen together corroborate my position:

Political power is concentrated on the hands of a very small minority.

Economic power is concentrated on the hands of a very small minority.

Politics and economics are very closely related, sometimes being indistinguishable.

The two previously mentioned groups greatly overlap and influence each other.

Every government keeps secrets from its citizens, no matter how "free" or "democratic".

In order to achieve a position of relevant power (of any sort)in the world, one must deal with different interest groups and owe a lot of favors.

Many people in power are members of exclusive (and sometimes secretive) clubs and societies, the purpose of which is mainly networking and mutual cooperation.

These powerful people have control over the main forces that mold our behavior and opinions (news, education, art, entertainment).

People are losing their individual freedom in every way that matters.

Nearly everyone will agree with almost all of these statements, but once you force them to look at them as a whole they enter in denial and start to rationalize comfortable excuses for the current situation.

http://8ch.net/32/res/603.html


cb561a No.13497

>>7494

Why would you make the unnecessary requirement that Every Single One wants to screw you over?

If you just want to hide from the facts by imposing unrealistic requirements for proof then just admit that you don't really care for the full truth.

Even when people so good things how often do you get everyone involved to describe to the public in detail their particular input?? Rarely. So when people are doing illegal things like insider trading why would you ever expect to find full details and admissionof wrongdoing?


e7314b No.13498

There was a time not that long ago when the US would use that word a lot. Now it's a dirty word to shut people up. You just toss it out there and everyone laughs instead of thinking.


578f27 No.13553

>Conspiracies: Stance on it Then and Now

It's pretty easy.

>Under Bush, doubting the official story was your duty

>Under Obama, doubting the official story is heresy

There, was that so difficult?


a6bb18 No.13578

>every single one

I went to school with a Jewish guy, we were actually pretty good friends and he was a nice guys.

He still is a nice guy and he has a nice family with a Gentile wife.

But he is an accountant and he works at a Jewish owned and run accounting firm. His tribe guiding him into the accounting profession and his tribal connections helped him find a job in accounting. So now he owes his entire livelihood to his tribe and so he serves his tribe with utmost loyalty.

Serving ones tribe is not a bad thing, except in this case his tribe is the most vile, deceitful and corrupt of all tribes.

I don't think he knows how evil his tribe is, but he still serves them and furthers their aims day-in day-out, year after year.

He is ultimately bad, even though he is good. This is part of the true evil of the Jews.


60eea6 No.13581

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>>7494 (OP)

>Yet I'm still undecided because well I don't want to believe that an entire race of people (and I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE) is convinced to eradicate us all and control us

Ofcourse not, when we say Jews we either mean the majority of them, or specificaly the ones controlling and influencing the Western World.

See:

>>1069

Jew wanting to confront another jew, sadly the discussion kill.

and my personal favorite

>>10755

Turns out that from 5 id, 3 of us confessed we are partially jewish. The funny thing is that the other 2 simply didn't tell us, we might've all been long-nosed.


88b9cc No.13583

>>7494

It doesn't have to be every single one. That's a silly notion.




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