/polpol/ - Politically Incorrect Discussion

>>7907

Evola's too difficult to digest for most people, Americans especially. To the Mass Men of Modernity, anything outside the realm of economics is beyond the pale. Even most NatSocs find Evola too convoluted and nonsensical. I'm not saying he's not, only that the 50% of superfluous bullshit he spouts turns people off and they ignore the other half which is, incidentally, pure gold.

I'm not trying to sound like an esoteric wanker, but Evola grounded his views in the heroic, the noble, the Promethean. What we have today has numbed us to such a degree that even 'redpilled' individuals can't see far enough through the obfuscating fog to grasp what lies beyond it.

For anyone who might be puzzled, watch Leon Degrelle explain it in the attached webm.

>>8095

>Being a traditional type doesn't necessitate a path for an individual. It places the Will of the reader to his own devices. If your Will is to make a change in the modern world, that is your choice, but Evola will remind you of the hardship he faced along the way. You cannot expect that everyone to have the will to fight or leave their slave-morality.

There are so many parallels between this and Nietzsche's prophesied path to the Overman that it's uncanny.

Anon, do you think it's possible to flay all weakness from oneself, to the point that what's left is nothing but an empty shell, devoid of all human frailty and want? But instead of succumbing to ennui and nihilism of the Eastern religions and their many-faceted mental traps (the Abrahamic ones especially, what with their lack of life-affirming passion and solipsistic focus on the post-mortem), one takes advantage of this newly-developed hollow state and fills it with a burning desire, a striving for apotheosis, using the energy of the latter to push the now-weightless husk to distances it never could have gone otherwise, burdened as it was with everything that weighs Man down and prevents him from self-actualizing. I'd compare it to a ghost shedding his flesh and allowing ephemeral winds to carry him forward, but unlike so many of the surrounding, weeping specters who get that far, this ghost would bring to bear his willpower and against all reasonable odds steer himself along a predetermined path.

Is this the true, achievable path to the Overman? The complete self-actualization of one's purposefully-emaciated spirit-body?

A sort of profound nudity devoid of protective mental frameworks, their renunciation the necessary prerequisite in a guided process through the thorny garden of Modernity by the Promethean flames of longing? Can it even be done? Such a profound detachment would necessitate a violently belligerent trichotomy of the self employed *against* the self, an almost sadistic sundering of the unified spirit into pieces, each at war with the other two: one, which flays; one, which enrages; and one, which ennobles, but with all three working in unison to drag the man through a hellacious torment of his own making. It would be almost barbaric in its inhumane disregard for the happiness we all strive for.

This is beyond stoicism, beyond nihilism, beyond even human nature, as an Aspirant on such a path would have to fight not only against the degeneration of the modern world, but also against his own nature (in essence, defying his very genes and their unending howls of protest while pushing against biological imperatives that crouch lurking in the darkest reaches of our simian cerebellum). It's a monstrously simple concept, the barbarity of it matched only by the arrogance of the Aspirant and his profound masochism in service of ennoblement, of perfection.

Nietzsche laid the groundwork by carving the final piece of the mosaic, yet his own human frailties kept him from the ultimate prize.

I have immense respect for the man, but he was a simpering beta. His beloved Overman would have moved beyond such trivialities.

As far as I know, no one's come even close to synthesizing all this into a single, unifying doctrine, and attempting the climb.

Am I grasping at straws, or is this actually feasible?

Can a human being ever ascend to such a height?

Can mere men be purified to such a degree?

The final result would be… magnificent.

sorry if I'm not making much sense but I'm depressed as fuck, and have a light alcohol-induced buzz going on…

>>13468

Leon Degrelle really got it.

This man has redeemed the Walloons in my eyes. They were not always the slobs they are now.

And to think that among them there must be some as redpilled as degrelle, stuck in that socialist hellhole.

>>13508

In terms of immigration certain parts of the country can be deemed lost. Brussels has about 25% muslims and an unholy amount of foreigners. It goes without saying the crime rate there is off the charts.

The same is true for most of the big cities in Belgium. But the smaller cities are still firmly Flemish.

But there is still hope in Flanders because the mentality of the people here is conservative as fuck. Dutch people coming here describe us as "extremely racist" and we really have no shame about it.

I'm not sure if you heard about the "Zwarte Piet" scandal in the Netherlands? It's a dutch/flemish tradition where some people dress up in blackface and deliver candy to kids. In the Netherlands it became this racist issue and the controversy is still raging. Here in Flanders they tried it too and everyone laughed them off.

There's only two real things stopping us from going full nationalist.

1. The socialists have lots of power after 30 years of being part of the government, but that's slowly but surely slipping.

2. Nationalism in Flanders is usually channeled into Flemish Independance nationalism, which doesn't really directly adress our issues.

But I have hope for this region. Every day I hear people saying this they wouldn't dare say 5 years ago.

I'm not really well informed on the Walloons. There's a huge rift between us and the Walloons. The socialists reign in their part of the country and in Flanders they're usually thought of as lazy leeching bums. But as I said, hearing Leon Degrelle speak makes me wonder if there's not some gems amongst the rabble. During WW2 Walloons sent as much people to the SS as the Flemish, so maybe we're not so different after all.

>>13582

I'm not sure that's true.

Caesar most definitely defeated the Belgae and the border between Belgica of the Empire and Germania was further north.

Caesar did deem the Belgian tribes as more Germanic in origin but influenced by the Celts.

And certainly everyone who has ever heard Dutch will know it's very similar to German.

So wether Caesar marked a lime-line border there or not, there's a definite ethnic and German/Roman border there.