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Unfortunately for me, I don't have any good genes and I don't want to pass them on. Also you can do your best to raise them, but I'd be afraid of the influence they get from school and kids are easily influenced.

>>1592
Don't you ever say that shit again.

You have the inteligence, the true-spirit, deep down.

Go exercise, LIFT, learn, and grow. Grow in every way you can.
Try to homeschool them well, get them a good private school, or be a great father and teach them your values regardless of their indoctrination. If they love you and respect you as a father figure they will follow you.

Why do you say you don't have good genes? You at the very least have above average thinking or inteligence/smarts, because you are here. And that would be enough.

Don't fall in the trap of the puppet-masters.

Make your own path, and your own legacy.
Just don't get a crazy/bitch/slut wife.

>Vid is accapella cover of Metallica's Master of Puppets, it came to mind when writting this post.

>>1599
>DUBS CONFIRM TRUTH

Sorry for the damn typos, though

>>1599
Beautiful words, anon, but I lost the genetic lottery. I'm not smart at all and I mean at all, at all. I maybe well spoken at times, but not smart. I'm knowledgeable, but there's a difference between the two. Diabetes runs in my family, and I'm sure mental illness does too. I don't want my kids to suffer none of that. I'm a big proponent on eugenics, because of my shortcomings and there's too many stupid people out there that shouldn't bear children and have worse genes than me. It'd also greatly benefit mankind, just imagine.

>>1602
To add, I'm short, I feel like a child. I don't feel like man at all, it's very disheartening.

>>1602
Better you than some ghetto criminal breeding.

But dude, diabetes is common in todays shitty food world (sugar spam). And mental illness is caused by a shit society (because even when some are genetic you can prevent them, or they only have a small chance of being passed on).

Those problems are even greater if you are American, poisoned food and water, doctors pumping you and the enviroment with SSRI's. The overuse of GMO.

Dude, you have no excuse.
Just being well spoken, knowledgeable and polite is enough.

You are not helping the world by not reproducing, you are taking away a chance of it getting more redpilled man and women to lead us to the stars.

>>1605
>How short?

I know a guy that's like 5 foot 3. He works out so well he is stronger than most guys almost twice his size.

Height also doesn't matter. Your children will probably AT LEAST grow to normal height if you nurture them well, in my experience, and if your wife isn't a dwarf ofcourse.

>>1608
Again, beautiful words but I'm a lost cause I can't get out of this slump and the world is in the shitter and it'll only get worse. I don't want to raise kids in this world. I'm sorry anon, but I'm just not fit to be a parent. Your words actually made me feel bad for not reproducing white kids as we'll be extinct in the next 100 years.

>>1608
Certainly doesn't matter for actors, so many of them are short.

>find a healthy young wife
in this economy people focus on work more than family

>start a big family
>Kids are not expensive
>raising them right only requires putting in regular efforts to teach and guide them
You never raised a family, huh? School, college, health insurance, plus other living costs aren't inexpensive. Go raise your dozen strong trailer trash family of unhealthy high school graduates.

How old are you? 20? 25? Let's see how cheap it will be for you to raise that "big family"

>>1610
Do me a favour though, try to go to a more conservative European nation, example: Russia, Ukraine (maybe even Novorossia in the near future hehe), Poland, Estonia, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia, perhaps even Hungary.
After you see how much less degenerate it is there you will gain hope for your children.
We will only be fucked if Russia outright "loses" the new "Cold-War", which seems kind of unlikely. And if good men like you give up.

You decide your fate, and your choices are yours alone to make BUT consider what I have said and life might become a brighter place.

On the topic of child raising

Get a wife that is responsible with her money and has her own employment, and raise one kid at a time.
It is also cheaper to raise a kid in Europe it seems.

>>1602
>Diabetes runs in my family
No, anon. Diabetes type 1 isn't genetic, type 2 is VERY dependent on your healthy habits, the cell's resistance to insulin's incorporation and opening to sugar is very much more proportional to the environmental factors and habits than to the genetics. This isn't a excuse, don't make it one.

>I don't want to raise kids in this world.
Fair point and valid excuse.

>We will only be fucked if Russia outright "loses" the new "Cold-War", which seems kind of unlikely. And if good men like you give up.
Amen.

Even though I do get the point of everyone in this thread, I would kinda tend to side with >>1592 I'm not quite sure there is hope for a future…

One thing I don't quite understand. I lift (a lot), I'm a semester out from an engineering degree, I snowboard, I mountain bike, I read works by the great philosophers, I have very good (not outstanding) social skills, I even have good Slavic genes… In fact, the life I lead has earned me a great deal of respect in my social circles. But I don't want kids because I prefer a life of relative solitude in pursuit of my own hobbies and aspirations. You make this sound like it's something I should be utterly ashamed of. Why? And why should I care? Essentially, I feel as if the happening has already happened, we have a shit tier society, so I'm doing the best I can to live in a bubble of perfection within this post Marxist world

>>1644
This is what you didn't understand, friend. You can cash out the money.

You just need to make a bet with it first, a bet that will take all the chips value away, leaving you with the same as you entered or increase it and make you able to cash it.

Like the free starter money they give you (or used to give) in some poker sites, dig it?

You can live only for yourself, and that's fine. But your duty to your heritage is to spawn individuals that will keep you, and your ancestors blood, flowing in their veins. And help humanity.
Because it's not gain a lot, lose a lot.
It's just gain a lot, maybe lose a little.

Because the only thing that you can leave on this earth that can truly stand the test of time is your bloodline.

>>1647
You should enjoy yourself, but you are on your best times and they might not last forever. If are such an accomplished man, generate more accomplished individuals to save the world.
No one forces you, it's your gift to humanity.

> I'm doing the best I can to live in a bubble of perfection within this post Marxist world

Thing is, countries that are truly post marxism are now redpilled (ex: Russia, Poland, Hungary, Estonia, Romania)
They do not want to go back especially Russia, the most powerfull of the redpilled countries.

America, Canada, UK, Sweden may be screwed but most of Europe is still salvageable. That is why Russia funds Right Wing Patriots/Nationalists in Europe.

>>1655
>America, Canada, UK, Sweden may be screwed but most of Europe is still salvageable.
Thanks for confirming I shouldn't have kids ;__; I am doomed.

Also, the analogy is quite simplistic, of course you can cash out the money, but that 100$ chip is linked to your bank account and empties it if you lose, and risks ruining your emotional and professional life, will risk taking all of your time for nothing in return, will risk making you suffer through shit, but MIGHT be a good thing.

Too risky m80.

>>1657
Empties it if you do a shit job, haha.
You wouldn't be doing it alone anon, you'd do it when you found a worthy wife.

It makes all the diference.

But it is your choice.
Even just spreading the truth online helps a lot.

But think about it, if you improve yourself and lead a good life your instincts you will tell you when the time has come to have a family. It might never come. Who knows.

You just seem to be a bit insecure. Learn, grow, go work abroad if you need it, see shit do shit and become proud of yourself.

And final point

It doesn't matter that you are brown, or the question of "exceptions" you mentioned earlier.
If immigration was based on worthyness we wouldn't have a problem, goverments subsidize unskilled people to come for no good reason. And they tend be of races and cultures that don't usually fit in with ours.

It is the goverments fault. And I don't see them (mass immigrants) as innocent snowflakes, but they are not the ones causing this.
The goverments and their puppet-masters are.

>>1659
>You just seem to be a bit insecure.
Nah, I used to be, but having gfs actually is what redpilled me on women the hard way, anon, I hardly believe in the non-inherent selflessness of the human being, and am becoming increasingly confident and comfortable in my anti-social behaviour (I can't really call it anti-social as I used to be pretty much an all-out guy, so I have kept a lot of links with a lot of people) and doing things on my own way instead of always looking for people's approval, if anything I believe I became less insecure with time.

Also, diabetic unlike crying man here >>1602 that is scared of a "chance" of becoming diabetic, so I'm already pretty fit as well, really the morale is probably the worst problem in the matter I believe, I can't put myself to hate nor feel resentment nor pity for people, as intelligent as they are, saying they wouldn't have kids because I just understand them so well. And of course, spreading the genes would definitely help the society, but tbh, I think statistics will always be against us, it will be the same problem as general democracy, and /pol/ in general, the massive number of people drowning the small number that are actually relevant and declaring wherever they are as being the new "top" of the society (yes, analogy from an anti-feminist picture), successfully driving us out.

I mean, just the part of "worthy wife" already seems like a big problem for me (if you think you live in a liberal hivemind, you haven't seen Quebec, I sincerely believe only Sweden tops us, and we are actively working at becoming like them).

I'd really like to believe in it like you do Anon, trust me, but holy shit, just thinking about what my kid would have to go through just until he's an adult and the amount of crap brainwashing I went through (homeschooling is pretty much illegal here, and even if I go somewhere else and homeschool him, society still exists no matter how hard we try to pretend not to, and social relationships are a very important part of development), I realize him being pretty based/redpilled would make him a pariah amongst his stupid friends, while him being stupid would make him happy, yet worthless, I don't really see a happy ending.

Probably this is caused also because I can't seem to find anyone redpilled to truly discuss everything on here (probably related to the fact I live in Quebec), and therefore I'm losing hope in people being able to be minimally intelligent, but I don't really see an end to this ride.

Although I do help the good words, I will think about it, maybe put a little bit more effort towards these goals, if only to make the world a bit less shitty for you guys and your kids haha

>>1663
Oh sorry, I thought you and the other diabetic anon were the same. A little mix up there.

Yeah, I've heard Quebec/Toronto are feminist hell-holes. You should find a wife abroad. Fun fact: Mail order wife marriges only have a 15%/20% chance of divorce compared with regular citizen marriges which have about a 50% divorce rate.

You would have to teach your kind to be a chamealeon, the "one-eyed man amon the blind". He must learn to hide his power-level.

Luckly my clossest friends in irl are quite redpilled.

>Although I do help the good words, I will think about it, maybe put a little bit more effort towards these goals, if only to make the world a bit less shitty for you guys and your kids haha

Thats the spirit!

>>1601
>I think you may be underestimating the time and money it takes to raise a kid in the Western world.
Only if you fall for the jewish trap of buying expensive toys expensive disposable diapers new clothes every 3 to 6 months no handmedowns and so forth.
Feeding the kids and raising them in the arts of mind and body are not expensive.

>>1626
>in this economy people focus on work more than family
And that is the opposite of creating a healthy and wealthy family.

>>1647
>One thing I don't quite understand. I lift (a lot), I'm a semester out from an engineering degree, I snowboard, I mountain bike, I read works by the great philosophers, I have very good (not outstanding) social skills, I even have good Slavic genes… In fact, the life I lead has earned me a great deal of respect in my social circles. But I don't want kids because I prefer a life of relative solitude in pursuit of my own hobbies and aspirations. You make this sound like it's something I should be utterly ashamed of. Why? And why should I care? Essentially, I feel as if the happening has already happened, we have a shit tier society, so I'm doing the best I can to live in a bubble of perfection within this post Marxist world

You have the base of what it takes to be a good father. There is no shame being put on anyone here. You either feel a passion and a duty to something and do it 100%. Or you don't do it. That is fine.

Some advice from VV

>>1610
You depressed faggot anon. Do you realise the sacrifices our people have made? And you have the fucking gall to bitch about "muh genetics"?

Truly pathetic anon, truly, truly pathetic…

Aren't most of us from Euorpean Heritage?

>>3515
most of whom?

>>3515
Not me, well for the most part, I am the mysterious mestizo man of Meso America

Being a White Nationalist in America is retarded, race doesn't fucking exist.

Europeans should be protecting they're people, and their individual cultures

Women are literally worse than jews.

>>4479

stop fucking crying

eat meat

go outside

run

will to power

>>988
I chose not to have children becuase of huntington's syndrome.

>>4479
It's hard at first, but just practice with everyday social interaction. I know it's draining, but eat right and stay away from the electric jew. You'll get the hang of it.

>>4479
If you keep trying and pushing yourself I can promise it will get much better. You will learn, just start with one thing that pushes you out of your comfort zone a week, then once a day, it will get easier and easier. Read positive literature, try and eliminate negative thinking, and keep your head up bud. You'll make it.

>>6170
good advice

>>4479
Fake it until you make it
Especially since practice makes perfect, anon.
Remember to force yourself to smile now and then, it will actually make you happier in general. It's also a welcoming sight, and people will more likely open up to you. Don't go Millipede smiles of course, it could just as well be just a smirk.

>>12112
and why would you continue living in such an area if you plan for a big family?

>>1610
>>3510
There are other ways you can help the European peoples. If you cannot have your own children, why not adopt some unfortunate white kids and give them a good home?

>>1667
>Fun fact: Mail order wife marriges only have a 15%/20% chance of divorce compared with regular citizen marriges
source?

>>4479
Everything you need to know is in the video

The catch is that you need to filter. Make sure you don't hook up with a MGTOW horror story, and find someone who is actually worthy of sharing a life with.

>>12915

The study I wanted to share was one that used to be on Wikipedia. Used to be. Someone has decided to remove it, and I think it was removed because for some reason, the original USCIS study was removed. I know it was there because I have read it in the past, and any search on the web for the extract below turns up countless websites that cite the study as a legitimate government source. Clearly its the sort of information that does not suit current policy makers and legislators that are pushing for restrictions on foreign brides.

Here it is:

The United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) reports that “…marriages arranged through [mail order bride] services would appear to have a lower divorce rate than the nation as a whole, fully 80 percent of these marriages having lasted over the years for which reports are available.” The USCIS also reports that “… mail-order bride and e-mail correspondence services result in 4,000 to 6,000 marriages between U.S. men and foreign brides each year.”

http://www.uscis.gov

Next up is the Centre for Immigration Studies who again state a 20% divorce rate with mail order bride marriages.

http://www.cis.org/MailOrderBrides

The next study was conducted in Switzerland. The white paper is available but its long, so I just share the web extract. Again, we see the same outcome, where divorce rates are far lower when the foreign women are not “Western”. Ironically, they also track the divorce rate between Swiss women and foreign men, which clocks in at 80% failure rates.

The statistical office of Switzerland has published some more detailed statistics:
>Note that to draw any conclusions, the divorce rate of mail-order marriages must be compared to the divorce rate of domestic marriages. In 1999, the divorce rate for domestic marriages (Swiss married to Swiss) in Switzerland were at a record high of 50%. In the same year (1999), marriages with foreigners are comparatively better: Marriages between Swiss and German or Italian women have a comparatively better divorce rate: 40%. Marriages between Brazilian or Thai women and Swiss turned out to be more durable than expected, the divorce rate reached the low rate of 30%. Fantastically low divorce rates were reached at marriages with women from Colombia (20%). Marriages with women from the former USSR reached a rate of 15%; however, it must be noted that marriages between Swiss and Russians boom at the moment, and that the divorce rate is not that much meaningful, because the divorce rate rises with a time-lag. However, there are also marriages between Swiss and foreigners where the divorce rate is worse than the domestic rate: Marriages between Swiss and women from the Dominican Republic tend to work very badly, the divorce rate reached catastrophic sixty percent. Similarly, but not quite as bad, the divorce rate in marriages between Swiss and Philippine women reached 45%

It's gonna be funny if 8chan gets a parenting board. There's more to raising kids than good genes and a red pilled mind, the environment for raising kids isn't good and /pol/acks need to be aware of basic stuff like singing to their kids often in their infancy, which has a lot of benefits.

>>12928
This is an interesting idea.

I'd like to add something to the thread which I don't believe has been touched on.

If not for your heritage or the satisfaction of raising a healthy redpilled family, would those of you apathetic to the idea feel differently if we remember that our children will also need red pilled children to play with. Though there might be few of us and most even worlds apart, the technology available is able to at least patch that gap like we're currently doing now. In summary, I hope one day my children will also have contemporaries of the quality that you fags are and they'll too share books, ideas and laughter. Statisticaly however we're on the decline while dindus are surging through the ranks of our ancestral civilisation.

>>12930
>>12928
I'd rather a well moderated sticky on polpol than some corpse of a board.

>>12931
>Statisticaly however we're on the decline while dindus are surging through the ranks of our ancestral civilisation.
>Surging through the ranks.
No they occupy the bottom ranks.