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edd011 No.294435

Fame and Misfortune

New episode will be broadcast on Saturday @ 11:30am Eastern (UTC -4) on Discovery Family. (Community streams may vary in programming choices prior to the episode).

Dailymotion link: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5ws89t

Summary:

"Twilight Sparkle's publishing of the friendship journal has unintended consequences when ponies start to argue over who wrote the best lessons." - Discovery Family

Chatrooms:

- This thread (duh)

- http://cytu.be/r/mlpanniversary (Official)

- https://qchat.rizon.net/?channels=/pone/ (Unofficial)

- http://bronytv.net/stream (Alternate)

Streams List:

(Recommended)

- http://cytu.be/r/mlpanniversary

- http://bronytv.net/stream

(Alternate)

- http://www.bronystate.net/

- http://www.livestream.com/otakuascendedlive

- http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-brony-network

- http://equestria.tv/r/cmc_clubhouse

WE

ARE

BACK

After a nice little mid-season hiatus coupled with episode scheduling sheningans (thx Australia) We can finally start making these threads again properly. Also by the looks of things there will be no more Canadian-based fuckery like doubled up episodes. Hasbro's legal team hopefully took some Treehouse TV execs out back and shot them, so we should be smooth sailing into the second half of the season and the lead up to the movie in October.

So, before this all starts, who do you think wrote the best lesson? I'm a big fan of Applejack's "ah didn' lern shit" approach.

Special shout out to all the friends attending BronyCon this weekend. Looks like it'll be a blast.

Enjoy!

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10cf12 No.294440

File: a5eead256b6d798⋯.jpg (19.18 KB, 500x449, 500:449, its shit.jpg)


3a1379 No.294442

Good lord that hiatus felt so much longer than it was.


ef05f5 No.294456

>So, before this all starts, who do you think wrote the best lesson?

Rarity's "remember where you came from" lesson from Sweet and Elite stands out to me. It was definitely one of the deeper lessons. Fluttershy's letter from Putting Your Hoof Down was another good one. There was some actual personal growth in that one.


5cda14 No.294457

>>294435

>I'm a big fan of Applejack's "ah didn' lern shit" approach.

Muh nigga

>>294435

>Looks like it'll be a blast.

It will be something to remember, if you know what I mean.


51c3c3 No.294459

File: dfb67b41785206a⋯.png (821.5 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1471133354298.png)

>>294435

>Also by the looks of things there will be no more Canadian-based fuckery like doubled up episodes. Hasbro's legal team hopefully took some Treehouse TV execs out back and shot them, so we should be smooth sailing into the second half of the season and the lead up to the movie in October.

Thank fucking christ we have a normal schedule for once. Maybe we can finally get everyone to sit and watch together and shitpost together like we used to.


f73a03 No.294462

>>294457

>It'll be something to remember

This is a nice board. Don't go to Bronycon this weekend.

>>294435

Who do you think wrote the best lesson?

I honestly fucking forget when they started the friendship journal but Pinkie Pie learned a pretty valuable lesson in the Weird Al episode.


5cda14 No.294464

>>294462

>they started the friendship journal

I think it was when they found the sister journal in the sister castle.


10cf12 No.294466

File: 0805ad2cc41fdd8⋯.jpg (44.76 KB, 471x720, 157:240, hasbro killed celestia.jpg)

>>294464

>>294462

I miss the letters


7352ac No.294470

>>294466

Hell, I miss the journal.


54e0e1 No.294510

Fuck yeah new episode! I bet this will finally revive this board! it wont


102ddb No.294513

>>294510

No, but it will give us something to talk about. Without all the Australian and Canadian faggotry, I am hoping for an actually decent live thing.


edd011 No.294515

File: 23ca0c7c9d61828⋯.png (35.12 KB, 562x300, 281:150, ss (2017-08-12 at 12.46.02….png)

BREAKING: This episode written by

M A MOTHERFUCKING LARSON

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102ddb No.294516

>>294515

That is intrigueing. It will be interesting to see how he works with the new management. Are we going to get a McCarthy episode as well at some point? I would actually want to see that. McCarthy and Larson make magic when they have a good story editor(s).


ab8527 No.294518

File: 737fbb5ff5383d6⋯.png (410.19 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, suger cue.png)

>>294515

Hmm… I wonder how how his hiatus from the show will effect the ep


fb4b07 No.294519

>>294516

How do we know this wasn't written before he left? Same with anything from McCarthy after she became an executive.


1ce7ba No.294530

>>294519

Well the tweet says welcome, newbie, implying that he's joined the staff once again. Maybe his books aren't panning out. Or maybe he just realized there's no getting off Mr. Bones' Wild Ride They did say Slice of Life was the last episode he wrote, so unless they lied and and some episodes stored in the Larson vault, he is returning. And I say welcome back. Maybe Twilight can get another set of wings.


c75a86 No.294533

>>294530

As Lauren found out, there is no retiring from magical plastic horses.


ab8527 No.294534

File: 930ca90db1a6413⋯.jpg (59.94 KB, 400x600, 2:3, deep feel.jpg)

>>294530

>>294533

As we've found out also, there is no leaving the ride.

We're still here, they're still here

No one gets off


c2ec3f No.294537

Less than an hour til live


c2ec3f No.294538

Less than 30 mins


ab8527 No.294539

We live


ab8527 No.294540

Fuck rarara


9e175b No.294541

>>294540

Rarityfags BTFO


2a2972 No.294544

>>294541

So…

Was this episode just a "fuck you" to the adult fans?

All the stuff their fans said are fan theories and common opinions, from Unicorn Twilight Was Better to Fluttershy always learns the same fucking lesson, RD, AJ and pinkie being written off as one note characters because they are nonsensical hatred of rarity for no reason and so on.

They even had little girls come in at the end what where they thinking when they made those awful OC's anyway? to defend the show.

Also, a minor nitpick, but why would anyone who has read the journal they started in season 4 I think, prefer wingless twilight or even know about her?


4c0f47 No.294545

File: 6bd3c0e9ef179ad⋯.webm (317.33 KB, 686x390, 343:195, marshmelowdrama.webm)


071bb8 No.294548

File: c072b8ed284584e⋯.png (574.35 KB, 960x540, 16:9, Yknow.png)

>>294545

So I'm not the only one who found that particular frame save worthy


03114d No.294549

Please

Somebody

I need a working link


7f4c7f No.294550

Gee, thanks for venting about your experiences with fans, M.A.. It's been a pleasure. Don't come back.

The first truly bad episode of the season is from one of the old writers. Go figure.

>>294544

>what where they thinking when they made those awful OC's anyway?

I think they are G3 characters.


7f4c7f No.294551

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>294549

Here you go.


03114d No.294552

>>294551

Thank you so much anon


03114d No.294555

I gotta say this episode has the best song for this season


18ee95 No.294557

>>294555

Trips speak the truth. The episode itself, however, is too self aware and in not sure whether to consider that a good thing or a bad thing. Also, get fucked Fluttershit and Rarashit fags.


7f4c7f No.294559

File: 66f9cc0268a972b⋯.png (445.25 KB, 1000x900, 10:9, e9cf7ba31f9c6b2e48e2a4aaed….png)

>>294557

It is not self-aware, just meta. It doesn't play with the absurdities of the universe the way that "Lesson Zero" does. It just serves as a vehicle for the author's rant. It is the show equivalent of the mouthpiece pictures that tumblrinas used to draw that had the characters denounce rape culture and the like.


a7bf70 No.294585

File: 443e77d60a5c942⋯.webm (5.24 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Teen Titans Go! - 'Let's ….webm)

>>294559

You know what it reminded me of?


d65439 No.294587

>writers devote an entire episode to making excuses for their shitty writing

this was honestly the worst episode I can remember in a long time. I don't think I've ever ragequitted an episode of this show while watching it, but I was this close to doing so after that "Twilight was better without her wings" comment. I don't give a shit how good Larson's old episodes were, he deserves to be criticized for this. Maybe him being off the show for so long and his only exposure to pony shit being the fandom has ruined him. I don't know if they're actually taking him back on full-time or not, but I'd be worried if they did because I can't see how he could go back to his old quality if he thinks that this episode was in any way acceptable. I wouldn't be surprised if they brought him back just to do this episode and use him as a scapegoat for the inevitable backlash.


947ee7 No.294588

>>294587

What this guy said, pretty much.

Having met and talked with Larson in person at Trotcon, I can say with first-hand experience that he's definitely changed for the worst. He was a lot more of a liberal-type sarcastic personality, got on my nerves honestly. All this episode is is petty strawmaning & excuses and I can perfectly picture Larson as behind the majority of it.


7f4c7f No.294589

>>294587

>I wouldn't be surprised if they brought him back just to do this episode and use him as a scapegoat for the inevitable backlash.

As funny as that would be, I am pretty sure that it was all Larson. Did you catch the reference to Peter New in the bathroom as delivered by Rainbow Dash?


d32c1b No.294591

>>294544

Yes this 100%

but I like this episode for the simple fact that it is going to make a bunch of insecure autists who don't know how to laugh at themselves super butthurt,

other then that it was mediocre at best


03114d No.294594

>>294557

Honestly, I agree that both Fluttershit and Rarashit fags got fucked

However, I noticed that it was only Fluttershy that handled it all really well and even came swinging back compared to Rarity that just ran off screaming and crying and had to have Twilight handle it for her

Also, this episode sort of needed to happen?

Like, the show has really strayed away from friendship lessons

Then again, we are getting beautiful episodes like "Spice up your Life", "Parental Guidance", and "The Perfect Pear" that have amazing lessons/lesson undertones

And we just got the lesson that no one is perfect and I think they handled it pretty well while cracking a slew of jokes towards the fandom that really needs the lesson after all

I don't know about y'all but I enjoyed laughing at myself for a little

>>294591

I agree with you anon, I'm going to go make some popcorn and enjoy the keks


7f4c7f No.294602

>>294594

>I'm going to go make some popcorn and enjoy the keks

I don't know that it is going to happen. We seem to be out of energy for shitstorms. Remember the total non-response that Flury Heart got. All it got from fans were a few hate pics and some funny porn.

Like Flury Heart, this is an attempt at a manufactured shitstorm. It is like they are yanking on our chain desperately trying to get the old autism engine to turn over again, but it just keeps sputtering. What is anyone even going to get angry about? A "fuck you" from an old show creator? Yeah, fuck you too. Whatever.

Actual shitstorms happen when they take something that fans care about away from them–Woona, the whole princess mythology, Derpy, the format of the old show, a coherent narrative, etc. All this took from fans is one episode out of an otherwise good season. That is shitty, but next week we will have another episode that was presumably written by one of the new writers. It changes nothing.


242064 No.294605

>>294459

About time.


54e0e1 No.294610

File: 04d52c25e6d3aae⋯.webm (7.52 MB, 300x202, 150:101, Please get a life.webm)

>stop giving a fuck of the journal

First the letters, now this? I though they were still doing that off screen

Also webm related, they could just made a song and be done with it, fucking lazy writers.


3a1379 No.294621

So is this basically an episode of Larson saying

>yeah, we don't always write the characters perfect, that's intentional! They're not flawless mary sues y'know! Stop complaining!

Which is just a way for the writers to say brush away any criticism, of which something like 'Fluttershy keeps learning the same lesson' is valid. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but didn't Fluttershy finally get past that after most of the old writers left?

And preferring Unicorn Twilight is fair too because we all know the only reason she became an alicorn in the first place, and not everyone agrees with how the whole situation was handled post season 3.

Seems like the episode was just a way for Larson to bitch about being held to any kind of standard.

But the bigger problem is that the whole episode only exists because of meta fandom response, which is possibly the shittiest reason to write an episode. I say that as someone who loves Derpy, whose inclusion is solely due to fandom response. The episode Slice of Life was dumb and pandering and nothing but fandom response but it wasn't meant to be anything but dumb and fun. 'Fame and Misfortune' attempted to be both a legit episode and very clearly the writer venting his frustration with the fandom.

Good lord I bet the faggots at Equestria Daily watched it and now want to prostrate themselves before Larsons twitter as an act of forgiveness for being such a terrible fandom

If they even understood what the episode was really about at all

Admittedly despite all that, it was still fairly entertaining, the song was good, and I do actually agree with the songs point. Flawed characters are better than flawless ones; even if such a point is obvious to anyone with any sense about how to write a character.

Also, the two G3 fillies had terrible color schemes. Thanks G3.


83b860 No.294623

>>294621

>yeah, we don't always write the characters perfect, that's intentional! They're not flawless mary sues y'know! Stop complaining!

That's also not what people primarily complain about. Most of the complaints that I have seen are in regards to storytelling. When fans bitch about Fluttershy constantly relearning lessons or Twilight being a princess, the reason is not that the writers are not doing the characters justice but rather that those things are examples of poor storytelling. I think that Larson and company just never understood what the bitching was all about, although that may be at least in part to autists being unable to express themselves coherently.


2a2972 No.294637

>>294623

This

Most of the complaints I see in the fandom are about the ponies acting out of character because the writer doesn't know how to write them, or that the writing is stereotypical and predictable.

That the characters aren't being "perfect enough" isn't really something I've heard anyone complain about.

One good thing about this episode, was the jokes. First time in a few episodes I actually enjoyed the jokes and character interaction.


83b860 No.294638

>>294637

>One good thing about this episode, was the jokes.

That always has been Larson's specialty.


8cd5db No.294643

>>294638

I guess you guys haven't got the update. The episode was written by Mike Vogel, just credited to Larson.


13e091 No.294645

File: cb9eafd45880093⋯.png (20.39 KB, 700x250, 14:5, bronyprogression.png)

This one was pretty interesting. I can't really think of any other show that managed to put out an episode which revolved around mocking their fans. I also feel like the vehicle they used to do it was a little strange and more than a bit of a straw man. Of course the reporter complaining about Twilight's "character" being weak was in the wrong, because criticizing a real person as if they're a fictional character is obviously retarded. That doesn't mean that all criticisms leveled towards fictional characters are invalid, though. The argument being made by the show ends up coming off as essentially the same one made by the anti-clop faggots who complain that drawing porn of their waifu somehow "demeans" her, even though she is a fictional character and, by definition, cannot be demeaned.

And that's really the heart of it, I think. It's perfectly valid to criticize the storytelling and characters on the show. They are fictional beings. They don't give a shit. However, >>294623 is correct in pointing out that most of the fans who bug the cast on twatter or attend conventions are probably not capable of coherently presenting these criticisms, and that a lot of the misunderstanding probably stems from there.

And so, this episode was born from the tragicomic collision of raging brony sperglords with the whiny liberal bitch writers who can't stand the thought of people not treating them like the special snowflakes they are. Just like any other trainwreck, this one should be tons of fun to watch.

Either that, or Hasbro actually does have a portal to Equestria in some basement somewhere, and this episode was the result of the ponies learning about their following on the internet.

As for the episode itself, it was pretty solid. The song was nice, and I did get a few cheap laughs out of the fandom jokes. I also enjoyed how they inverted the fandom's tendencies by making Applejack super popular while everyone hates Rarity. Glimglam added nothing to this episode, and people are right to argue that she should have been replaced by Spike, since he actually had a part in writing the journal. Overall, this is another one of those episodes where watching the fandom is going to be more entertaining than watching the episode itself.


37618d No.294676

File: f7e7bf85d3df5a2⋯.png (51.56 KB, 172x177, 172:177, RAGE source.PNG)

I thought this episode was gonna be chill as fuck. What the fuck happened to my show? Why dO THESE MOTHERFUCKERS THINK THAT THEY ARE BEING SO FUCKING CLEVRE HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE JEW NIGGER FAGGOTS DOING TO MY SHOW THE ONLY REASON I SIT DOWN TO WATCH A LITTLE GIRLS SHOW IS THAT I CAN SIT BACK AND ENJOY MY CHAMOMILE WITHOUT PaNDER THA FUCKING PANDA POUNDING MY ANINS AND FORCE FEEDIG ME JOKES THAT AREN:T FUNNY I DONT JUDGE I DONT BITCH LIEK A FUCKING NIGGER I DONT SQUEE I DONT RPI MY ANUS HLAF WAY ACROSS THE DARK SIDE OF THE FUXKINF MOON OVER ONE LITTLE HICUP IN THE FICUKNG STORY I COULD NOT FOR THE LFE OF ME GIVE SIX FUCKING MIILLLONI FUKCS IF HT E ONLY LESOSON INAN EPISODE IS TO NOT NBE A DOUBLE FUCKNG NIGGER BUT THIS FUCKING THIS HAD TO FUCKING HAPPEN BECCUAESE THEY JUST HAD TO MILK THEM MOTHERER INFUGN TITTEIFES OHOOHHH YEAH BAY ILL YAWEARA DRESS NEXTX TIME BAUeSEC ICC LIREK TO GET FUCKCE AD WAHEN I LOOOK PRERETTTY FUCK YOU YOU SLOOBERING HALFAS S IGN SORRY EAXCUSE FRO WRITERRS QUINTOPLE FUCKING KIKE SUCKING LOLIFKINING AS S KINSSING JEWEW NIGGERS I CAST UPON YOU AND ALL YOUR LOVED ONES A NIGHTMARE FILLED WITH THE MOST WICKED DESIRES KNOWN TO MAN AND FILL YOUR TINY LITTLE ASSHOLES WITH FOUR INCH BORE RED HOT RODS OF IRON HEATED BY THE RAGE OF TEN THOUSAND WARRIORS DAMNED BY GOD AND REMOLDED BY THE DEVIL HIMSELF AND MAY THE GODS HAVE MERCY ON YOU WHEN ZEUS STRIKES THE GROUND SPLITTING THE EARTH AND YOUR ANUSES IN TWO AND WHEN I SEE YOU IN THE DEEPEST DUNGEONS OF HELL PRAY PRAY TO YOUR DEAD GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT MAY SEE ANY SIGN OF CLEVER WRITING WITHIN THE DEEP BLACKENED RECESSES OF YOUR MOLD INFESTED CEREBRUM CUNT


f6fc80 No.294680

>>294645

>Overall, this is another one of those episodes where watching the fandom is going to be more entertaining than watching the episode itself.

Has there even been a reaction apart from people anticipating a reaction? It aired yesterday morning. If there was going to be a shitstorm, it would have started by now.

>>294643

Really? It seemed like a Larson episode–story is just a vehicle for the jokes, over-the-top characters, fan references.


8cd5db No.294681

>>294680

He made a Tweet just as the season was beginning that there would be an episode this season that he started but was changed so much it wasn't his episode any longer. Unless more episodes are credited to Larson, this is it and he say it isn't his.


f6fc80 No.294684

>>294681

Any time a writer has to be brought in to fix a different writer's episode the result is dogshit. It is just not a formula that works. The same thing happened with "Spike At Your Service." In both cases, they probably should have stuck with the original writer's story.


8632f3 No.294704

>no spike

>no spike journal

At least he wasnt involved in this fucking mess


fb4b07 No.294707

>>294704

He's a boy and not a pony


8632f3 No.294721

>>294707

Didnt he write shit in the journal?

I cant honestly remember…


f6fc80 No.294724

>>294721

Spike never got to write a letter or a journal entry. That privilege is only available to those with horse pussy.


13e091 No.294725

File: 3074d972f7fbf66⋯.png (395 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, inspiration.png)

>>294724

Today I learned how important it is to be honest with your friends when they're doing something that you don't think is right. A true friend knows that you're speaking up because you care about them.

How appropriate that the episode was about telling people when they're full of shit. Spike also apparently wrote the Equestria Games one.


f6fc80 No.294726

>>294725

I honestly forgot that "Inspiration Manifestation" was not a Rarity episode. She pretty much stole it from Spike.


8632f3 No.294754

>>294725

And the writers once again cant keep their shit together


657205 No.294757

>>294725

>Today I learned how important it is to be honest with your friends when they're doing something that you don't think is right. A true friend knows that you're speaking up because you care about them.

Rob Renzetti was the friend that the other show creators needed.


8cd5db No.294828

>>294757

Sadly, I doubt any of them would listen now.


03114d No.294840

File: fdf61cb2e7340bb⋯.png (212.68 KB, 1387x1617, 1387:1617, 4b48bcc60e4d8d3fbdf762d99f….png)

Dear fuck get ready for the next episode

It's a fucking Spike, Ember, and Thorax one


7114da No.294843

>>294840

So long as one of the new writers wrote it, it has a chance to be good. Every episode in Season Seven up until thread related looked like it was going to be awful in the description before turning out to be a decent-to-good episode.


2a2972 No.294845

>>294843

>Stronk wominz dragon

>Gay Rainbow mothdeer

>Spike episode

How the fuck is this ever going to end up as anything but an irredeemable pile of shit?


13e091 No.294850

>>294843

>>294845

I'm willing to give Season 7 the benefit of the doubt. I think the writers might realize that their episode concepts this season are pretty weak, so they're making an extra effort to polish a turd and actually giving us some pretty neat coprolites as a result. This one sounds like some serious cancerous garbage, so it's probably going to be good.


7114da No.294856

>>294845

I have no idea, but I thought the exact same thing when I read the descriptions of all the other episodes. That is, except for "Fame and Misfortune." I read that thinking that is was going to be good. An episode written by one of the show's old and distinguished writers? That sounded promising, and the description made it sound like the story was going to be about the Six sitting in a big room reminiscing and trading witicisms. That sounds fun as hell! Of course, that is not what happened.


defd93 No.294876

>>294845

>Stronk wominz dragon

Dont bully qt dragon, she is just the cliche of a princess with a over protective father.


7b19e4 No.294902

I actually enjoyed the episode and song. learned after it was fucking Larson that wrote it, could honestly end the series with this song. How can the new writers even compete.


d1b432 No.294913

>>294902

>could honestly end the series with this song

How many times has that been said of a Larson episode?




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