/poverty/ - Poverty & Thrift

>>706

This. I fucking hate people who don't understand this shit. It's ruining it for everyone else because now degrees are expected even if they're some useless shit like lib arts. I'm not going into debt for that.

The fact of the matter is that college is now a business and people need to treat it as such. You're paying to get a recommendation and skills. So pay to get TANGIBLE ones. This is why fucking AAS degrees exist for fucks sake. 2 years of mostly classes that are fucking related to something technical that you can use. It may not guarantee you a job but it's gives you some ammo for which to sell yourself and it's not too expensive.

With FAFSA and the prices ranging from 5-9k, night classes available(they're made with workers in mind) it's definitely doable and at least something that should be researched seriously. What's both good and bad about them is that the "smart" people overlook them and the "dumber" ones don't care to take them so right now they're more or less in the shadows.

4 year degrees and above are what you should do only if you either, love the subject with your heart(and are willing to pay the price), the education is nearly free(daddy pays, govt pays, scholarship pays), or is STEM based(yeah yeah yeah, we all hate the MUH STEM fgts but it's a better chance).

I see very few degrees that I would personally get into at the bachelor and above level but that's me. I did the math and I'd have to make either myself or through scholarships about 50 grand and 6-7 years(if I continue to work) of grueling academics for a bachelors.

I'm like fuck that. Even higher degrees, hell ESPECIALLY higher degrees you're out there competing with(at least in regards to engineers) other engineers the world over willing to work at a fraction of the price, h1-b recipients, foreigners that come here that you study with and undercut you both through pay and minority status, and jobs that frankly are not even that secure.

It's a HUGE gamble. That's what it comes down to especially if you're financing it yourself.

>>314

If I were you, I'd tell that friend to forget community college - or any college for that matter. Here's why I say this: today college only gets you into MORE debt, even when most students get a degree in college they NEVER EVER find a high-paying job anyway - they spend the next 20 fucking years with a low-wage job trying to pay for that GOOD-FOR-NOTHING college degree. It's a fucking racket and I can't believe people still fall for it in Third World Amerika.

Sorry if I wrecked you're "American Dream" but it's the truth.

>>314

> He can't go to community college right now because he can't afford it

what are pell grants?

and theres always construction work; carpenters union, pipefitters, millwrights, electricians, etc. saddens me that no one knows there is tangible, good paying work that is in demand.

>>314

>dad won't/cant pay for son's education

>dad then demands money from son for rent

what a shitty dad. If my dad were like that he's fall from the stairs very quickly

>>933

one problem with that, the dad can go to the cops and get the son with a felony if he tries anything. Know someone who got into it with his dad and had him in a chokehold.

Cops have to deal with this flavor of domestic violence all the time, it never ends well.

If you go that route might as well shoot the fucker, shoot a few more people than either blow your brains out or go out suicide via cop.

>>733

>This. I fucking hate people who don't understand this shit. It's ruining it for everyone else because now degrees are expected even if they're some useless shit like lib arts. I'm not going into debt for that.

It's a cultural thing the last generation invented. People want go after self ambitions so they can go "Look at me, I'm so smart, why aren't you throwing money at me?" In the end, the only jobs people who haven't gone beyond high school can do are almost nothing because of the competition.

Our society has built an impossible world for this generation. Things are going to be rough for a long time because of it.

>>925

>and theres always construction work; carpenters union, pipefitters, millwrights, electricians, etc. saddens me that no one knows there is tangible, good paying work that is in demand.

Our society has made that kind of work seem undesirable. They constantly push for the young to go to University to get PhDs.

>>937

i would hope that people who post here would see through the lies, but i doubt it. the other issue is these professions not really advertising themselevs, like, at all. its only been within the last years that ive seen the electricians union doing any kind of advertising.

but the fact of it is that skilled construction work ( ie pipefitters, millwrights, electricians, machinists, etc ) is damn hard but very satisfying and well paying work. i encourage anyone here looking for work to apply at local unions they can find, barring steelworkers and ironworkers, those niggers are crazy.

>>956

>what is showing/minimum hygene

Have you ever even been homeless you fucking faggot?

>>959

Is there a highschool with a pool nearby?

In my area there are several HS' with gyms open to subscription/membership. It turns out cheaper than a conventional gym, but doesn't give you 24/7 access to hot water showers as many conventional gym memberships do.