/pretend/ - Pretending to be a girl

When i was really you i loved making people happy, i then started using props like a stuffed cat to talk to people, it was a treat to have people enjoy my puppet show.

I was always intrested in learning about girls and women. I spent most of my childhood with my mother. My father was a good parent, although i always dissapointed him, and he always seemed unhappy or stressed. One of the main reasons i pretend is because i get to please this father instead of returning to one that has accepted his difficult job and life and my failure in school when i was young. I feel like my father can't be happy with his health problems or his taxing job, and that i can't making him happy, but i can disgustingly make someone else happy.

I've only had three attractive gfs and both were terrible relationships, so this is really generaling and subjective, but i feel like in a relationship where both people fit their gender well, i would feel that the woman's side would be more emotionally rewarding. Although i've never been a woman. I don't understand why i think this, maybe it's just compared my bad relationships.

Traditional femininity is the perfect vehicle to feel fulfilled and calls my transexuality. I would get to be the heart of someone's ideal family.

I think it's too late to transition, and even if i did, i wouldn't feel like a real woman, i also couldn't put my family through it. It would be all for nothing if i was passable, and even then i'd have to let the person i date know that i'm a transwoman. thankfully i'm not transgendered or this would be much harder.

On the day i told the last guy i pretended with the truth, i ran into this beautiful woman from my high school. Her body didn't change from her HS self, except for her breasts getting bigger. She was so beautiful and attractive, i was so jealous.

TL;DR: Because i think it's emotionally rewarding and it's the only experience that gets me hard anymore.

>>759

please excuse my dissapointing grammar, spelling..

Well, I certainly wasn't expecting something like this on /pretend/. Nice to see we all get a therapy session.

I'd say I'm most like you OP, except my father was rather normal. I think I /pretend/ because of extreme social isolation from my peers. I've basically had no social life since late Middle School. I've always wanted someone to like me, especially sexually, but no one was ever interested in me. I guess this is my way of getting revenge and enjoying myself

>>759

I understand that feeling. I've had a dream that I could change into someone else's body for awhile now. I know it's not possible, but I wish I could change into a cute schoolgirl or a sex-deprived housewife. The idea of being someone else is my highest attainable goal.

Your desire to be a woman seems to be more based in your desire to be physically change your gender, not your person. Whereas I'm much more interested in just being another person altogether. I think the reason that I pick women is that women are on a higher rank than most men when it comes to sex. An average looking girl receives wayyy more propositions for sex than an average guy would ever receive. Furthermore, in Western society, it feels as though men are continually being pushed to the side and women are being held aloft by the feminists, by the media, and even by the government in some cases.

>>759

>I was always intrested in learning about girls and women

Same

>i would feel that the woman's side would be more emotionally rewarding

Same. I've been in four relationships total, two with actually attractive girls. And they all ended miserably.

>I think it's too late to transition, and even if i did, i wouldn't feel like a real woman, i also couldn't put my family through it. It would be all for nothing if i was passable, and even then i'd have to let the person i date know that i'm a transwoman. thankfully i'm not transgendered or this would be much harder.

This is pretty much my exact thoughts on transition. I've always wanted to be a girl, but if I transitioned I'd still never be one. Never have the real experience growing up, never look right… I'd always just be a 'transwoman'.

>On the day i told the last guy i pretended with the truth, i ran into this beautiful woman from my high school. Her body didn't change from her HS self, except for her breasts getting bigger. She was so beautiful and attractive, i was so jealous.

This also reminds of something that happened, when I saw a girl from my old school. She was always beautiful and hot (yet shy) but now her breasts are huge as well. Welly jelly

>it's emotionally rewarding

this

>the only experience that gets me hard anymore.

I get hard from plenty else, and I don't do this specifically to get hard. I wish it was getting wet instead

Do you think in time I'll only be able to get aroused from this??

>>762

>I've basically had no social life since late Middle School.

S a m e

tho I'm not sure what middle school translates to in this country

>I've always wanted someone to like me, especially sexually

I've had a few girls interested in that way. But I have to say it was never much, or satisfying.

>I've had a dream that I could change into someone else's body for awhile now.

Have you ever tried being a girl in lucid dreaming?

I tried a few times but I still can't get to the stage of remembering my dreams properly ;_;

>Whereas I'm much more interested in just being another person altogether

S a m e

> An average looking girl receives wayyy more propositions for sex than an average guy would ever receive. Furthermore, in Western society, it feels as though men are continually being pushed to the side and women are being held aloft by the feminists, by the media, and even by the government in some cases.

While this is true, I have to feel sorry as well. Since I started all this I could definitely get the feeling of abuse you'd feel when continually masses of varied men hit on you all the time and appear to want nothing but sex.

>>762

> The idea of being someone else is my highest attainable goal.

I can relate a lot to and i really want to give you some advice despite not knowing if you want it or not because it helped me, but i could come off as some SJW or something, so feel free to take this with a grain of rice. When i studied buddism there was this concept that the self (Who you see your self as, like your perspective identity) is a harmful idea.

http://faculty.luther.edu/~kopfg/internal/mosaic/Anatman.html

> If nothing stays the same, then there can be no permanent or constant self. We change with each experience, and with each moment we are alive. Therefore, we are different self every minute of our lives and the concept "self" becomes irrelevant.

> I think the reason that I pick women is that women are on a higher rank than most men when it comes to sex. An average looking girl receives wayyy more propositions for sex than an average guy would ever receive. Furthermore, in

Yeah, in today's society the advantages of women have included the advantages of men now, while keeping their classic women advantages. Men still have advantages despite how much women have advanced. If you're intrested in the male's side this is a good read, this coming from another gynocentric /pretend/er http://www.redpillhandbook.com/

>>764

> same

i hope you would consider the handbook above, especially today the important male perspective just isn't there in today's media or it's demonised.

> Same. I've been in four relationships total, two with actually attractive girls. And they all ended miserably.

There were a lot things that i did wrong as a male in my relationships, you have to play the gender correctly. One of the biggest mistakes was leaning on her for emotional support, men are suppose to be the ones being leaned on because it's easier for men to biologically surpresss their feelings. My relationships ended horribly also, it didn't matter how attractive she was, i was happy when it was over. My problems was that i didn't set up boundaries, i was too emotional and would react to her too much.

> I'd always just be a 'transwoman'.

i could be passable except for maybe my voice, but sadly this the best end game for transgender/sexual people.

> but now her breasts are huge as well. Welly jelly

And those girls who are fresh into high school blessed with the trifecta body, height and voice, it's so unfair…

> I don't do this specifically to get hard.

I don't and didn't but i was amazing at how well it worked, but i prefer romance over cyber.

> Do you think in time I'll only be able to get aroused from this??

No, i think i'm just desensitized. I think you can develop habits/patterns from this.

>>766

>i hope you would consider the handbook above, especially today the important male perspective just isn't there in today's media or it's demonised.

This thing is really fucking long. Can you summarise what it's about? I don't know if it's worth reading. It's not like I don't know about 'male perspective'. I have /pol/ack 'friends' and would consider myself anti-SJW (but pro-feminism, in the equal oppurtunities sense, rather than in the third wave 'blame straight white males for everything' sense)

>One of the biggest mistakes was leaning on her for emotional support, men are suppose to be the ones being leaned on because it's easier for men to biologically surpresss their feelings. My relationships ended horribly also, it didn't matter how attractive she was, i was happy when it was over. My problems was that i didn't set up boundaries, i was too emotional and would react to her too much.

Sounds kind of similar to 2/4 of my relationships.

>but sadly this the best end game for transgender/sexual people.

What is? /pretend/ing or transition?

Transition usually still ends in depression doesn't it?

>And those girls who are fresh into high school blessed with the trifecta body, height and voice, it's so unfair…

Had one girl like that in my first high school class. Massive breasts, great ass, and perfect lips… She was the most popular girl in the school (unsurprisingly) and went through like 10 boyfriends over the first few years (until she stopped being popular after falling out with friends and got fat). She was always very nice and sweet to me as well.

>I think you can develop habits/patterns from this.

?

>>768

> I don't know if it's worth reading. It's not like I don't know about 'male perspective'.

I wish i could summarize, and yes it's really long, but it's a really good answer to thirdwave feminism as well as male game. Only if you're intrested, i highly recommend it.

> I have /pol/ack 'friends' and would consider myself anti-SJW (but pro-feminism, in the equal oppurtunities sense, rather than in the third wave 'blame straight white males for everything' sense)

Me two except stricter family gender roles.

> What is? /pretend/ing or transition?

transitioning/transgender/transexual, i used them as the end game because they seem like the final form of a /pretend/er

> Transition usually still ends in depression doesn't it?

I don't know the statistics on that. I've only followed some transgender blogs and while they transition happily they deal with a lot just being trans.

> and went through like 10 boyfriends over the first few years (until she stopped being popular after falling out with friends and got fat). She was always very nice and sweet to me as well.

It's such a shame when attractive girls get fat, it seems hard to lose weight but watching a diet is easy, food can be enjoyed in small amounts.

> ?

If you spend a lot of time /pretend/ the mannerism become habits, at least for me. In school i would have really feminine writing and would mistake the gender pronouns, maybe it was just me.

>>772

>as well as male game

What is male game?

>stricter family gender roles

For sane, healthy children, yes strict roles in family are required. But if they don't want a family or can't have one, it shouldn't matter what they do.

>because they seem like the final form of a /pretend/er

I don't want this. If there were some other way to become a girl I would take it though.

>I've only followed some transgender blogs

Probably biased as the ones comfortable enough to blog about it are minority, but yeah

>It's such a shame when attractive girls get fat, it seems hard to lose weight but watching a diet is easy, food can be enjoyed in small amounts.

Yeah :(

She apparently was fat before high school as well, and went to a fat camp.

Probably why her breasts were so large so early.

>If you spend a lot of time /pretend/ the mannerism become habits, at least for me. In school i would have really feminine writing and would mistake the gender pronouns, maybe it was just me.

Ah I see. Yes this happens. I have some weird feminine ticks I do now and some writing things that just come naturally.

>>773

> What is male game?

How well a guy can get laid

> For sane, healthy children, yes strict roles in family are required. But if they don't want a family or can't have one, it shouldn't matter what they do.

Why wouldn't someone want a family?

> I don't want this. If there were some other way to become a girl I would take it though.

I guess that was very general, i also feel the same way. If anyone was serious about becoming a girl that would be the most reasonable option, unfortunately.

> Yeah :(

She apparently was fat before high school as well, and went to a fat camp.

Probably why her breasts were so large so early.

Ah, that maked sense, fat women could have good curves if they weren't fat.

> Ah I see. Yes this happens. I have some weird feminine ticks I do now and some writing things that just come naturally.

What is a tick and which do you have?

>>784

>Why wouldn't someone want a family?

To pursue a career or if they are not healthy or have some sort of disorder

>I guess that was very general, i also feel the same way. If anyone was serious about becoming a girl that would be the most reasonable option, unfortunately.

I have browsed many threads on /fringe/ and other sites that have speculated on how to do it with magic, and have read some pertaining books.

The basic idea would be to create a 'thoughtform' of your new body and transfer your consciousness to it. Seems pretty difficult.

In the mean time however, I can try to perceive myself as a female when I'm lucid dreaming (AKA in the astral)

>What is a tick and which do you have?

A tick is something idk you do uncontrollably without noticing

Like mine are sometimes brushing my hair behind my ears and looking down; biting my lip; giggling like a girl, and sometimes screaming like a girl at random things

lmao…

sometimes I can't even pee unless I'm sitting down

>>786

>>786

> To pursue a career or if they are not healthy or have some sort of disorder

You pursue a career for a family though? i can understand if it's a health problem but it seems sad, families are important, maybe our values are different.

> I have browsed many threads on /fringe/ and other sites that have speculated on how to do it with magic, and have read some pertaining books.

Tfw my uncle was an occultist and dad casually sold some valuable hebrew occultism book. I've also been looking in this but i'm weary to ever practice occultism, my uncle seriously had bad luck following him, i'm not what that was related to though. it's not a bad idea, i bearly have vague of occultism btw.

Personally the best /Pretend/ i've was when i had a real relationship with someone, to the sad point where they plan a future with you. The problems are clear though.

> Like mine are sometimes brushing my hair behind my ears and looking down; biting my lip; giggling like a girl, and sometimes screaming like a girl at random things

lmao…sometimes I can't even pee unless I'm sitting down

All of mine were mostly writing wise. i'm a bit confused, how did you develop these tick from pretending?

>>788

>You pursue a career for a family though?

You pursue a job or source of income for a family. A 'career' would be a more dedicated thing where you progress up the ranks and devote your life to it, not having time for family

>Tfw my uncle was an occultist and dad casually sold some valuable hebrew occultism book. I've also been looking in this but i'm weary to ever practice occultism, my uncle seriously had bad luck following him, i'm not what that was related to though. it's not a bad idea, i bearly have vague of occultism btw.

I have never cast anything major but have always been interested

>All of mine were mostly writing wise. i'm a bit confused, how did you develop these tick from pretending?

I don't know…

Just… happens

>>791

>I don't know…

>Just… happens

First you fake it, then you make it.

>>803

That's the plan

>>786

>giggling like a girl, and sometimes screaming like a girl at random things

I know someone who does this. He's cute :3

Where are you from, if you don't mind me asking?

>>807

I'm British.

>>758

After that my brother died my mom hated the fact that i was a boy too,during all of my childhood my mom was not happy that I'm a boy

>>808

whats british? you mean english right?

>>810

British is someone born in 'Great' Britian (UK) with British blood (England isn't the only country here, you know)

>>811

but usually british literally means someone who lives in britain (i.e ANYBODY)

>>812

No it doesn't.

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