/prog/ - Programming

qt creator, mostly. why?

>>2191

> user was banned for this post

Vim because that's what I was taught in college.

Notepad++.

I did only a bit with emacs and vim when I had to use my friends' computers, but I never bothered to learn any keybinds past insert mode (vim), executing (vim), saving and closing.

One time they did open up geany for me, but it was being retarded with the find functionality.

Sublime Text 3, it's light!

Vim, because I want to be able to still use my fingers after 3h of editing.

I like Atom

I use Code::Blocks for C++ and Geany for webdev

Sublime text 3 and I've been trying to use vim its just difficult to get used to

When I'm working on an actual project IntelliJ IDEA, for anything else Vim.

>>2210

Me too.

nano, but I'm looking to replace it

>inb4 use vi(m)

>inb4 use emacs

>>2210

You like botnets

emacs + quack

I mostly hack in scheme.

Emacs is pretty good.

vim because I don't like how emacs shits out auto-save files all over the place

>>2265

use vim

fuck all of you, especially

>>2210

>>2246

you two cowards.

atom all day long, i'm looking for a text editor, not an os. thanks, but fuck off vim fuck off emacs.

>>2265

>inb5 use vi(m)

>inb5 use emacs

just don't use nano. jesus do you really try to write code with nano? do you also like shooting your dick with a nail gun? my god, you fucking masochist.

>>2279

>jesus do you really try to write code with nano?

I sure do.

>>2276

>use vim

>implying I haven't seen its scripting language

I might have used emacs, but

>Hey! Hey guys! Guess what?

>WE JUST INTEGRATED IMAGEMAGICK!

>Isn't that great?

I recently swiched from sublime text to TextAdept. Its very nice

>>2265

TextAdept might interest you. http://foicica.com/textadept/

Going to try this over the weekend:

https://code.visualstudio.com/Download

I'll be switching from Webstorm. Seems pretty good for web development stuff.

Vim.

Emacs is gedit tier trash

>>2379

poster is gedit-tier trash

>>2276

> vim because I don't like how emacs shits out auto-save files all over the place

vim because changing config settings is hard.

>>2276

(setq-default backup-directory-alist '(("." . "~/emacs_backups")))

>>2278

>i'm looking for a text editor, not an os.

>a fucking web browser accompanied by a server is okay though

>>2383

>vim because changing config settings is hard

I realize you're being le ironic but still nigger.

>>2417

if you say 'le' again me and a pack of my friends will rape you

import urllib, os

vostr = {"q": "ha ha ha I am going to use this for some fun stuff"}
gven = urllib.urlencode(vostr)
os.startfile('http://translate.google.com/translate_tts?tl=en&'+gven)

>>2276

(add-to-list 'faggots (poster 2276))

emacs is killing lisp.

>>2190

>hackin'

>shitty 40 years old text editors

GOD TIER:

Visual Studio

GOOD TIER:

Sublime

OK TIER:

Notepad++

AUTISM TIER:

Vim et al

I use Vim but I would so much use a real IDE.

I was thinking about Emacs but I don't want to destroy my fingers too fast (they already hurt me after working too much).

>>2430

If you're writing Lisp without emacs, it means either you don't know how to write lisp (effectively), or you're paying thousands of dollars for Lispworks.

>>2210

> LE JEWGLE PLEASE MILK MY TIT

> PLEASE TAKE ALL MY DATA!!

Eclipse and IntelliJ, used to use Vim extensively but none of the languages i use seem to worth ditching an IDE over.

>>2197

>learning shit at college

test

Emacs, vim is just some underpowered piece of shit that just frustrates me. People say you gotta be a octopus to use emacs but really if you played WOW, DOTA, or Starcraft in your youth the bindings should be really easy to pick up on.

>>2510

>People say you gotta be a octopus to use emacs but really if you played WOW, DOTA, or Starcraft in your youth the bindings should be really easy to pick up on.

I was programming when in my youth.

vim4lyff. it's just a text editor and it does just text editing very well.

saved my bacon a few times.

Sublime Text 2 for regular stuff, vim for small stuff while doing something in terminal.

>>2510

The problem with emacs is that it comes with

>2 or 3 irc clients

>a web browser

>a mail reader

>a mpd client

>another mail reader

>100,000 other things that most people will never use

>>2693

No one is asking you to use it. Plus if you do need to use it, it's available. Integrated gdb anyone? And integrated Python. Language specific keyboard shortcut for all of the the languages I use. Really nice to customize too because of elisp.

>>2694

shame

>>2694

>No one is asking you to use it

Yeah, that's why I switched to vim. I don't need 200mb of software that I'll never use.

I don't need my text editing hindered because gnus is using the only thread.

>Plus if you do need to use it, it's available

Yeah, I'm sure I'll need a shitty irc client or shitty web browser built into my text editor.

>Integrated gdb anyone? And integrated Python

Ever heard of terminal multiplexers?

>Language specific keyboard shortcut for all of the the languages I use

My editor can do that based on the file extension.

>Really nice to customize too because of elisp.

elisp is the worst lisp implementation. other than guile anyway.

You can have your 'text editor'. While you're circlejerking on #emacs I'll be writing some code.

I personally use Emacs for all my programming/writing needs.

I don't know a more powerfull editor for VHDL which is the main task on my job. Really, if you write VHDL the mode which comes with Emacs is really really good.

For Latex is also really powerfull (w/ auctex). Python, TCL/Tk, C++, C, all have modes easy to install and I find them intuitive.

It is true that it comes with a lot of shit, but it can come in handy, And in todays computer memory size, I am sure that those 200mB will not make any difference ….

Why can't Vim have better autocompletion? The closest I can't what I want is YCM, but it was pain in the ass.

Until recently, vim, but I've started using some languages with better emacs support so I've switched to spacemacs. It's a bit resource hungry but very nice to work with.

>>2447

>VS

>your compiler now requires you to login

I'm trying to change c++ compilers, but nothing so far except VS has a fucking working debugger (step into, step over) on windows.

Vim, running in the Emacs terminal emulator, running in the Neovim terminal emulator.

http://neovim.io

>>2190

Code::Blocks.

lxde + 4 virtual desktops + terminator terminal + vim,

vim with:

nerdtree,

emmet,

multicursor,

delimitMate,

bundler

But also respect emacs.

vim, but I wish it wasn't stuck in the '80s. C++11 highlighting and indentation is pretty broken and I don't expect it will ever improve.

For Lisp: emacs, of course.

I installed melpa in my .emacs file, installed yasnippet, autocomplete and autoindent from melpa and had it all autostart.

I think I could probably use it as IDE for every single language out there.

For C++ which I always use with the Qt toolkit its of course QtCreator which is pretty powerful.

For Python: PyCharm community edition.

For LaTeX: TeXstudio (and MikeTeX on Windows)

For Ada: GPS (not very often though, tbh)

For Haskell: Leksah

>>2733

Doesnt Altium or Xilinx have some pretty neat VHDL or Verilog IDEs? For free even, if I recall correctly.

>>2896

MUH GUI

Debuggers are largely useless other than to produce a backtrace and for RE. People need to get over their attachment with them.

>>2751

>programming on windows

not sure if masochist or just very stupid

>>2898

wtf you can use gdb with any GUI IDE you like (except maybe visual studio but i guess even there's a plugin)

Vim, because I like modal editing, and it's easily extensible in real languages like Python and Lua (elisp is better than viml, but shit compared to real lisps).

Vim is very superior for editing. Emacs is superior for writing. That's why I use Vim for code and default emacs keybinds for command lines.

You're crippled if you don't know enough about both to use either.

nvi

>>2922

Write?

>>2926

kommissar comes with a browser plugin that lets you hover over elements and record actions/scrape values dynamically, it compiles to a lisp image where you can add verification logic, loops etc anything you can do in common lisp

>>2938

ok

emacs 4 until I find something better

>Try out emacs

>Go full immersion in order to learn the UI and keybinds

>Use emacs for everything; email, configs, writing, coding, browsing…

>After 2 days, my wrists start hurting

>It gets really bad, look up emacs plugins to make it less stressful on my wrists

>Try ErgoEmacs

>It makes the emacs startup time longer than 2 minutes

>It still doesn't help my wrist pain

>Switch to vim

>Use vim for everything

>Wrist pain is gone in less than a day

>>2233

What's up with intellJ? I didn't even hear from it 2 months ago and suddenly everybody is using it

NeoVim 0.1.0

Not a fan of joining cults.

I'd like to try GuileEmacs, though, once it's usable in 20 years.

Windows – Sublime 3

Linux(graphical) – Gedit

Linux(CLI) – nano

Vim is just too much for lazy coders like myself

VHDL made me into an emacs guy.

Still I don't believe the hype some text editors get.

I get that a properly set-up text editor is a powerful tool,

can't be happier with all the possibilities it brings.

Payoff with the basics is whats bugging me the most.

The promised godly speed boost hasn't occurred yet since I don't want to check the reference multiple times while working.

>>2906

Memory analyzation tools like valgrind saved my ass multiple times tough. I think its good to have debuggers around, but it's certainly not the most important when actually debugging I think.

I rarely step through a program, I prefer to deduce the flow by spamming the outstream with messages.

Debuggers for any embedded project is a must tough obviously.

Can't tell me it's not useless there.

>>2906

Spoken like a true Java dev

Tried Emacs for a while.. not my style. Although I love OrgMode.

I'm using NeoVim and Vim in my daily life.

started out using textmate, still use it to this when i want to show people stuff.

got better and better using vim throughout uni, love it to death today.

tried emacs a few times, shit is nice but vim's commands i feel are more concise and i like what i have so no reason to change.

today using vim for most things and intellij for java.

for me, emacs vs. vim is a discussion like fedora vs. debian. one has everything and the kitchen sink out of the box, the other is only comfortably usable after adding some plugins and customizing shit. it depends what kind of person you are.

>>2222

So you already have mingw32. Just set the path variable in your advanced system properties to the code::blocks mingw32 file and suddenly you can compile your code from command line in windows. "g++ -o (insert name of .exe here) (insert .cpp file here)"

Spacemacs

>>2279

Nano is extremely simple to use and I've done much better programming with it than both Vim and Emacs.

It's better than Emacs and Vim combined, especially because both of those are bloated to all hell, have no real useful purpose aside from purposely making the software overly complicated to use.

I want to be out of a text editor within a second of making the decision. Same goes for saving the file.

This isn't really a necessity, just preference, but from me, comparing Vim to Nano, Nano gets a plus for highlighted code.

Explain why either Vim or Emacs is any good, or at least how they aren't the cancer of text editors, which should be extremely simple tools, not wannabe far overcomplicated IDEs.

>>3902

i can only speak for vim. and i'm not sure we're talking about the same nano.

leaving the editor and saving a file in vim is one combined command - ZZ - or if you want to just exit ZQ. you can easily map a save key in your .vimrc; for example, i have \-s mapped to save so i don't have to :w<CR> everytime i want to save. vim also does highlight code without addons, so the features you mentioned are there and then some.

i understand you don't want a wannabe IDE but rather a simple text editor, and vim imho can be just that. granted, you have a small learning curve at the beginning, but if you're serious about editing text, vim will quickly feel much more natural and the commands are actually quite mnemonic. c for cut, cw for cut (to the next) word, ciw for cut inner word (cut the word under the cursor, p for paste, and so on. moving around, once you're used to, will also feel more natural than before - you don't have to take your hands off the normal position on the keyboard, looking for the arrow keys or the mouse to jump to a line and a lot of the time you can move around and edit at the same time. i haven't even started talking about the ease of scripting from within the editor - just press q and another button, it starts recording until you press q again, then execute what you recorded by simply doing @<button> which of course can be prefixed by the number of times you want it to happen - or using marks.

all in all, vim aims to enable you to interact with your file rather than just edit it. i have vim bloated to the maxxx with 20 plugins, enabling me to write code and latex like someone using textmate or sublime would, amazing autocompletion provided by clang for c/c++, python by python, rust by racer, ruby and java by eclipse (through eclim), file explorer, method explorer and the like.

to me, vim is the only tool i ever need to edit text files, be it config files or refactoring code in big projects. this way i only need to learn one tool and benefit from this whenever i edit, which i do a lot. and the performance is still very good, although i admittedly drop the more expensive addons when working on raspberry pis or platforms like that.

vim, but I use it like vi with syntax highlighting.

>>2278

>text editor using a webpage rendering toolkit

Is this somehow less bad than a text editor OS?

>>2694

Integrated gdb doesn't sound too bad, but ultimately you can just use tmux/screen to accomplish the same stuff without fattening up your editor.