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## Board Owner 11/22/14 (Sat) 03:47:57 No.91[Reply]

Under new management.

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08/15/15 (Sat) 01:15:41 No.288

is this board still being maintained?

the literal shit thread has been functioning as a indication for me of which boards are dead >>285

I personally hope not. If it is though, maybe we should start off with a bigger /drugs/ board first? My thinking goes: if that gets a frequent user-base, then one can branch off into sub-boards like this. Seems like this place isn't getting as much traffic as one would hope, eh?

Anyways, get back at me if you see this (whoever).

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Sticky ## Board Owner 11/22/14 (Sat) 04:08:24 No.92[Reply]

Hello and Welcome to /psy/

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02/06/15 (Fri) 11:23:24 No.249 [Reply]

Do you believe that once achieved, liberation-enlightenment is a permanent state of existence?

Lately I've been entertaining the idea that the nature of liberation-enlightenment is impermanent like everything else in our existence. I like to think of it as a state achieved during a session, and with spiritual development you could possibly hold on to it for long periods of time, just like the enlightened beings of the past and present have, but eventually you would descend back into normal game-existence.

I expand on this thinking that committed people with high spiritual efficiency would be able to rest their mind in the ultimate reality at will, but as long as the physical body functions, return would be inevitable. It's worth adding that, at least in Buddhist teachings, there are many mentions of practicing monks who advance in meditation and explore different states of conciousness, have such powerful experiences that they start to believe that they have finally attained nirvana and freedom from cyclic existence, only to find that the movement from one state of being into another awaited them all along.

If the disciplined monk can make the mistake of believing that he has achieved something when he hasn't, it doesn't come as a surprise when so many of us who are on the path make the same mistake. I don't see the use of speculating the levels of enlightenment in ourselves or others. I see it as a distraction and something that is to be avoided.

It's quite the hot topic because there's so many thoughts and views about what it is what we're chasing or hoping to achieve by practicing and studying spirituality.

Another contemplation I have is that since the concept of enlightenment brings with it so many different associations in the minds of people, and because it is thought as a desirable state of being, would it not cause jealousy and disbelief along with other negative emotions in such a degree, that anyone who truly was enlightened, would always decide against proclaiming it to others, for the sake of others?

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06/13/15 (Sat) 04:26:29 No.277

I know this is old but maybe to someone who sees this, "liberation-enlightenment" is actually something that was never lost... You turned your back and forgot what really was. You've grown an ego, and you've grown around your surroundings and as you grow up your subconscious picked up different ways of thinking you must decide if they help you or not. Ecstasy and happiness never left you, you left them.

06/16/15 (Tue) 14:34:11 No.278

>>277

Seth?

06/19/15 (Fri) 02:30:03 No.279

Absolutely not. A lot of people for example try ayahuasca, have this huge revelations that feel life changing, yet within a month or two slip back to their previous behavior patterns without repeated use. Psychedelic enlightenment is a path one follows, not a one-stop permanent change of consciousness.

09/25/15 (Fri) 18:15:27 No.292

Nothing you do in terms of Feelings will have any permanent change. If you want real control over your life you will need Reason. Few have the capacity for it.

Start defining reality in mathematical and philosophical terms. If you can't explain what the soul is, what life is or why it's necessary, your entire worldview is very likely wrong. This is an issue of rationalism and ontology. Mystical intuitions (feeling oneness or with the whole) will not get you anywhere. Only reason and mathematics will.

Check out this site if you can handle rigorous logic and hard rational thought. http://armageddonconspiracy.co.uk/

03/22/16 (Tue) 05:36:13 No.303

>>292

I believe that understanding the true nature of reality is impossible for human beings, and that a worldview cannot be exclusively wrong or exclusively right.

No need to pit feeling against thinking, it's not either or dude. Leave some wiggle room. It's the mark of naivety to be so certain, you should try to not to buy your own bullshit.

Anyhoo, seems like quite the reality you've shaped for yourself, or did someone else do the shaping? Doesn't matter now I guess. Well, how's the endgame, may I ask? And by that I mean, what kind of a worldview is molded by believing in the central doctrines of this belief system? I'm most interested to know about the beliefs you end up with after the "studies" are over, after the homework is done.

What can you use as selling points for this ideology? Have you personally learnt any new tricks or skills from this? Are you happier IRL? How about magic n' stuff? Heightened powers, mindreading, mindcontrol, telepathy, sentient entities you can make contact with, orgies? Any that kind of cool stuff in there? Tell me of the wildest discoveries people will most likely make when mixing their current belief system with the armageddonconspiracy.

I like entertaining different ideas though, so if you care to extend on, for example the soul, and what life is or why its necessary, unanswerable questions to me, but I would gladly hear your conclusions and how'd you got there.

My mind is made up, so don't confuse me with facts.

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03/11/16 (Fri) 18:22:29 No.302 [Reply]

Let's get a mushrooms/lollys thread goin

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01/25/16 (Mon) 12:49:28 No.298 [Reply]

I wish people used this board. Where can we seek membership? ITT lollys

01/25/16 (Mon) 12:50:11 No.299

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Frequency of Trips? 12/10/14 (Wed) 03:00:02 No.198 [Reply]

How Often do you guys trip?
I enjoy psychedelics a lot, but I try to limit how often I do them. How long do you guys try to wait between trips?

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12/15/14 (Mon) 08:29:49 No.211

>>206
They are real life elder scrolls, read them too much and you're bound to go blind

12/15/14 (Mon) 09:34:44 No.212

>>211
More like they are a substance that upgrades all commands to super user commands. You can sudo su and just do normal shit or you can do things that require permissions. You can also fuck up your rig if you don't know what you're doing whereas its much more difficult to do such things sober.

i'm addicted to tripping 01/09/15 (Fri) 22:02:08 No.232

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I use dxm at least a couple of times per week. Once tripped everyday from February untill june. I try to extract but when your binging you don't care to much but I eat healthy and drink hella tea...no pop or junk food. I also i.v 4-aco DMT quite often. Once did 70mg. I like to think of myself as smart and on a quest for knowledge and inner peace but just I'm irresponsible at times. I just hate the selfishness that comes with drugs like crack and heroine and the trouble and violence associated with alcohol and benzos...so I'm a tripper for life

04/23/15 (Thu) 05:10:51 No.275

>>232

You're probably addicted and should get that checked asap.

12/22/15 (Tue) 18:07:22 No.297

>>232

what have your experiences taught you?

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psybient psylence 10/02/14 (Thu) 01:13:36 No.3 [Reply]

ITT: god tier psybient music

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11/29/14 (Sat) 01:50:57 No.110

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One of my personal favorites

11/30/14 (Sun) 07:28:46 No.119

I always love listening to Ott & Shpongle personally. I also like going to plug.dj/psychillium to get introduced to new psy and chill music.

11/30/14 (Sun) 08:17:09 No.120

>>119
Have you seen Shpongle live? Simon is a really cool guy if you get a chance to talk to him. Looks a bit homeless but a really cool guy.

11/30/14 (Sun) 17:07:35 No.122

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>CBL
good pick OP, posting one of the most peaceful songs I ever heard

12/05/15 (Sat) 21:07:11 No.296

>>3

>>122

Thank your for suggesting CBL, I was coming up yesterday and saw this thread and gave Interloper a try, and it made me a beautiful trip. Thanks a lot.

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12/05/14 (Fri) 16:07:19 No.179 [Reply]

Anybody here eat shrooms and just get depressed as fuck at the inevitability of their lives, particularly in my case having to get a job at some point.

I mean fuck that shit, I'm here for a small amount of time in this universe, leave me alone so I can read books and play with wobbly windows on my desktop.

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12/06/14 (Sat) 10:19:00 No.193

I remember once I did shrooms and I got really confused. I was playing Mortal Combat II with someone and I realized I wasn't paying attention to what my hands were doing so I asked my opponent why he was playing me because I assumed I must be doing really badly, and he said, exasperatedly, "because you asked me too." I kind of blanked out and then came to when I was sat in front of a computer to watch the screensaver. It wasn't interesting to me, so I left the room. I tried to figure out what to do next and decided to make food. I used a small cottage cheese container to nuke some water to make ramen noodles, but when I put the noodles in the hot water they only went in half-way and I felt the hot water burning my fingers as I tried to push them in. I gave up on that and decided to go into the bathroom - the last refuge. When I went in, I heard the guys from the other room make barfing noises and laughing about it! I then figured out it was all the weed I was smoking that was making me stupid, but perhaps I was just overthinking things (probably).

I remember watching Eraserhead on shrooms when I hadn'tseen it before and what stood out was the girlfriend's mother necking eraserhead and the neighbor disappearing into the bed as in a pool of water.

inb4 cool story bro

sage 05/10/15 (Sun) 20:12:45 No.276

just work hard and get to heaven

09/05/15 (Sat) 01:14:37 No.290

I've had many good trips on shrooms, but I grew golden teacher's and had the most depressing trips ever. I would reach the peak and just feel bored. More than bored though. I felt as if I was at my peak, that I knew all and that I was all. I felt that I was a god, but was bored with being a god. That there was nothing new, nothing to learn, nothing to do. I don't know what that was about. It was an especially strong feeling if my media ended. I have been very negative and a jerk to my loved ones as well. Just playing with their weaknesses.

09/09/15 (Wed) 09:29:14 No.291

>>179

hey newfag to shrooms here

how much can i expect to pay for a kilo of psilocybin dried or fresh?

using dollars but not in the US btw just looking for an on average price range

12/04/15 (Fri) 07:16:31 No.294

>>179

did you earn your comfortable life? someone had to write those books you want to read. it seems like youre content consuming and never producing, which is vacuous

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11/30/14 (Sun) 09:21:17 No.121 [Reply]

I've been pretty straightedge my whole life. But my overall outlook has recently changed so now I'm thinking about trying LSD. I've been quite interested it it for a while, from reading and hearing about it. However I haven't really done any other drugs in the past besides drinking. My friend advised me to try some other drug first such as weed to warm myself up,but I'm not really interested in doing that. What do you think? Would it be alright to try LSD after not trying other drugs first? Also, any tips for what a beginner should do while tripping?

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02/20/15 (Fri) 11:33:09 No.258

>>136
listen to this guy

02/23/15 (Mon) 02:14:48 No.259

You don't do LSD. LSD does you.

It lasts about 12 hours, with the peak about 1.5 to 3 hours in.

You will not be yourself, you will be /someone else./

If you have long term plans for psychedelia, I would just try low doses first, instead of trying a heroic dose.

1/2 tab is a good start. I take 1/4 tabs to get a general feel for the acid.

Also, have Xanax on-hand. It's cheating and lots of old heads say things like 'omg you should be able to handle your acid' but if your ordering this shit online, you may as well order more then just acid.

Also, no weed? wtf?

06/19/15 (Fri) 12:51:12 No.281

>>259

>dosing with 1/2 or 1/4of one hit

Massive pussy detected

I don't care how good the stuff is, you could give an elementary school student that amount and they probably wouldn't even get threshold effects. I'm TINY, like 110 pounds, and even I don't get any psychedelic effects from any less than 2 hits of really good stuff.

A fucking cigarette will literally give you a stronger buzz than 1/2 a fucking tab

06/25/15 (Thu) 16:14:36 No.283

>>281

You need to reevaluate the shit you're eating. Before my first acid experience, I had eaten anywhere from 2-14g's dry shrooms, 150-600 mics of AL-LAD, loads of MDMA. I don't have any impeded tolerance.

1/2 a tab of Blue Viking's L knocked me out of the universe. And I'm sure it's underdosed, like every tab ever. If you're that small and aren't feeling anything off half tabs, you're probably getting 60 mics of L per tab, maybe less.

Step up.

11/28/15 (Sat) 09:38:57 No.293

>>259

>>281

>>283

I started on 2 tabs of supposed 180 µg tabs. I hadn't really smoked weed before except once, and I was 16 at the time. Wasn't numbing or anything, was the real deal. And it was totally earth shattering.

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08/01/15 (Sat) 19:51:00 No.286 [Reply]

The Inner Light and the Far-Right

Psychedelics make you into lefty, hippie type - everyone knows that. It's one of the few things that those who love or hate psychedelics agree on.

Right?

Well now...

Alan Piper - Psychedelics, Fascism & the Politics of Profane Illumination

https://vimeo.com/77289125

https://www.academia.edu/6715524/Psychedelics_Fascism_and_the_Politics_of_Profane_Illumination_with_video_link_

http://www.amazon.com/Strange-Drugs-Makes-For-Bedfellows/dp/1514152517

http://expandingmind.podbean.com/e/reactionary-psychedelia-071615/

08/15/15 (Sat) 01:11:43 No.287

Fuck off, let's try to keep this a /pol/itics-free zone.

08/25/15 (Tue) 14:18:39 No.289

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>Psychedelics make you into lefty, hippie type - everyone knows that. It's one of the few things that those who love or hate psychedelics agree on.

>Right?

I disagree.

Regards, /fringe/

12/04/15 (Fri) 09:18:00 No.295

Holy fuck, is /pol/ trying to take over /psy/ too? You behave like parasites.

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07/11/15 (Sat) 21:10:28 No.285 [Reply]

Have you taken the brown pill yet, mateys?

it's a tough pill to swallow! The brown pill was founded in 1999 by Sir Reginald Brownpill, who presents and narrates the attached video.

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Swallow the brown pill today! Red pills are for fedora fucking wearing faggots, blue pills are for the ignorant masses. Ignore the other le epin /pol/ maymays, this one is the readl deal.438847

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Spiritual Tripping? 03/14/15 (Sat) 21:07:33 No.266 [Reply]

Is there any preparation I could take to help make it so that a trip is more spiritual/meaningful in nature than it might otherwise be? I'm mostly interested in tripping to see if it'll help my depression, since that's a thing that can happen, but it'd be nice to kill two birds with one stone.

I'm planning on trying LSD first if that makes a difference (since it's one of the main ones actually studied for depression) but I'm willing to try other things in the future if others think they'd work better.

03/16/15 (Mon) 02:09:05 No.267

It really helps to find other people to trip with so you can have guides and someone to fish you out in the event you start having a bad time.

This isn't something you do alone.

http://howtousepsychedelics.org/depression/

Clinical studies like this one that use psilocybin and LSD to study depression have a very simple protocol. Participants
are invited to come to a research room that has been setup to feel comfortable and they take a dose of the substance. A researcher sits with them for the duration of the experience (typically 4-6 hours) and may talk them through any anxiety that arises. But generally, the participants simply remain quiet and feel the experience, following where their thoughts and feelings take them.

This setup can be replicated at home or in another comfortable setting. The most essential elements are a comfortable space, plenty of time to stay in the experience, and someone you trust who can support you during the experience.

03/16/15 (Mon) 18:09:07 No.269

>>267
Thank you! I have a friend who'll be looking after me, so I'm not worried about that part. I just want to make sure I get the most out of it, I guess.

06/19/15 (Fri) 02:36:13 No.280

If that is your goal, ayahuasca can help you a hell of a lot more than LSD. It's vastly deeper, gets a lot more "work" done, has additional healing properties compared to LSD, and as a bonus, all the ingridients needed are legal to order and are cheap as hell and can be easily brewed at home. LSD is a good thing but the experience it provides and the positive benefits absolutely pale in comparison to ayahuasca.

06/25/15 (Thu) 16:10:29 No.282

>>280

I have some chacruna and rue laying around. Never done aya or DMT. I have a vague idea of a brewing method. Any added advice?

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Techniques to use during a psychedelic session 04/18/15 (Sat) 13:40:09 No.274 [Reply]

What techniques do you use for controlling the consciousness during a psychedelic session?

The basis of mine are different meditation-techniques. And I feel like it's a great place to start, a requirement even, for all who journey into other types of conciousness. Stopping movement, taking a relaxed position and concentrating on breathing is a good way to get started. The ultimate goal of this is to calm the mind entirely. No talking, no thinking, no doing and no moving. Usually this is all that is needed, as when the motivation becomes to stop everything, you gain huge insight into the moments of experiencing game-reality when you start participating and moving and doing again. Meditation has a huge impact on how things play out, and it has given me much.

Very useful all around; in lighter sessions with cannabis etc, where things might take a confusing turn when memory will not work quite the way it does in normal reality, and a must-have lifesaver during heavier sessions, where large doses are included.

I'm very interested to learn more. Especially if someone had tips on how to contemplate and discuss different ideas during a session in an intellectual manner, I would be very grateful to know some. The problems with this are many, one that I've noticed is that when time loses meaning and/or is experienced differently, it is very hard to keep track of the point of it all. Lots of times what keeps happening, is that because I do not perceive time, I go into overanalyzing, not knowing when to move on from one thing to the next.

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I sell lsd, and ecstasy pills bulk 04/06/15 (Mon) 18:21:05 No.272 [Reply]

I sell lsd, and ecstasy pills. Write my mail

getbulk@tutanota.com

04/07/15 (Tue) 13:58:00 No.273

Fuck off DEA, we are smart enough to know that nobody actually sells LSD on rare Alex Grey blotters.

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12/06/14 (Sat) 08:34:48 No.187 [Reply]

Will this work/Has this worked

12/08/14 (Mon) 21:07:48 No.197

Just buy morning glory seeds and do LSA it's legal to buy them and it's like infinitely less work

01/03/15 (Sat) 22:26:01 No.224

>>197
They're different compounds, and it's technically illegal to use them for the process of extracting them or getting high off the Ergine. If you want a good source of Ergine, use the Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds, but they will most likely make you sick unless you extract them. Still not LSD at all, really had very little psychedelic effects in me, but major body load and I was unable to speak.

It's like Bufotenine (5-HO-DMT), 5-MEO-DMT, Psilocybin (4-PO-DMT), or Psilocin (4-HO-DMT). Just because they contain the DMT molecule or are structurally similar does not mean they are similar in effect. I supposed AMT, NMT, and DMT would be a better comparison. In my opinion LSA/Ergine is not worth the effort, but if you do try it, try to extract it with Naphtha.

01/05/15 (Mon) 02:40:18 No.225

>>224
I understand they are not the same chemical, I don't see why you're being so pedantic about this.

04/04/15 (Sat) 05:31:20 No.270

>>225
I think his point is that if you're looking for an LSD experience, you're not going to get it with LSA.

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