/psy/ - Psychedelics and the Shamanic Tradition

The infograph is complete bullshit.

A Lucid dream is basically the same as a normal dream, the only difference is that you're in the alert state that you are in when you're awake, but while dreaming. If you want to have lucid dreams then you must just practice dreaming. Keep a dream journal, set your alarm for 45 minutes earlier and when you wake up don't move much, write the dream you just had up and then try to fall back alseep, and wake up as soon as you can to write the next one.
Normally you don't start to dream right away when you fall into sleep, you first are in NREM for around 6 hours and after that get REM, which is where you dream.

What the infograph is describing is something called astral projection, but the way described there has extremely low chance of working, there are much easier ways for achiving it.

>>19
Lucid dreaming is basically being aware you're dreaming. Once you realize you're dreaming you can do whatever you want.

When you're dreaming you don't really think about whether it's real or not, your brain just accepts that it is. Try and look for some obvious signs that you're dreaming… Changing text, jumbled locations (buildings that shouldn't be there). As soon as you get those few clues you'll ask yourself 'am I dreaming?' The answer is usually yes and from then you can convince yourself by changing things with your mind. The more you do it, the more it happens and the more you can control.

I've been lucid dreaming since I was a child, thought that's how everyone dreamt. Only later did I find out that its something people try to achieve. When I'm stressed or worried my dreams seem very realistic and my brain is quote happy to suspend belief making it harder to do anything.

>>46
What are the easier ways to achieve astral projection?

>>49
The basic idea behind astral projection is that you have many "bodies" but one consciousness. The astral projection is you switching your consciousness from the bodies that you're in right now, that help you to function in this world, switch your consciousness to some other bodies, "astral bodies".

Basically what you would do for it is get into that relaxed meditative state where you don't feel your body very much and mind is somewhat or entirely quiet, depending on what you can do, and then just picture yourself walking around your room, then your house and so on. When picturing it try to do it in as many details as possible, make it seem real. After around 3 months of doing that every night for 30-60 mins you should get it so that it actually feels realistic in the imagination. Thats astral projection for dummies.
You can do the whole thingie for like you climbing out of your body or like loading into another consciousness or whatever other rituals are liked in the pop culture of astral projection, but those arn't neccassary. But if you feel that they help you then go ahead and do them.

The stuff displayed everywhere, where you completely fly out of your body and have some profound experience or something is mostly hogus.

Theres a quite good book on astral projection named: art and practice of astral projection by ophiel
try googeling for the pdf version, is a short book.

>>49
I'm using the hands realitu check,like,counting your fingers
and try to pass the finger of one hand through the other one,and i keep a dream journal in my cellphone.
>>46
That's WILD.

>>55
Thanks. I'm definitely going to give it a go.

I tried it before but I didn't get any results, i didnt do it for so long so maybe thats why. Once I had an out of body experience. I was staring into my window blinds when all of a sudden I was standing up by my bed. I walked down my hallway and then I blinked and I was back in my body looking at the blinds.

Maybe I fell asleep, who knows. Another time I felt like I was dropping through my bed and got scared.

>>46

As somebody who has encountered sleep paralysis quite often, and is a lucid dreamer, I can tell you that you're full of shit and the inforgraphic is (more or less) accurate.

On a more general topic, does anyone notice sensations of vertigo as they are about to enter sleep? Like a rollercoaster sensation? Flying around? Because this happens every night for me and I'm not sure if it's common or not.

>>55
>connect to one consciousness

I really don't think that's it. Are you sure you aren't seeing an unfamiliar part of yourself and labeling it the other? All is mind after all.

>>19
>>19

I gotta say this is wrong. I've done it all kinds of ways, and this is maybe the most frustrating.

Just get 10 hours or more of sleep a few nights in a row. As you're getting too much sleep, your dreams will become more restless, and more clear, like another life you're living.

I've seen myself in the mirror in dreams plenty of time, lol, but I've always been kind of vain...

>>95
It does happen to me, but not that often.

I have bad english, but I'll try to give some protips to lucid dreaming. I have been doing it for quite some time now.

I always do leave the house with the same objects in my pockets. My phone in the right pocket, keys in the left pocket, my bus pass in the back right pocket and my wallet in my left back pocket. Always the same items in the same places.

Then, either when I am awake or dreaming, I am always checking them. On dreams, my phone is always missing. Or the bus pass. Have you ever dreamt that you were taking the bus or buying something then realized that you had no money for it? That happens on dreams a lot.

So I keep checking my objects, sometimes I realise there is something wrong, realise I am dreaming and then the lucidity starts, I start gaining more control over the dream.