Meditation is about transcending the boundary between yourself and the rest of the world psychonaut 10/20/14 (Mon) 15:21:51 No. 80
It's what acid does. Acid shows you that you are a human being living in the world and takes away the sense that you are separate from it. This is what meditation is for. To transcend the boundary between yourself and the world so that you are fully aware of the outside world, yourself in it, and the inner workings of your mind, and the fact that they are all part of one reality. Meditation shows you that the inner self and the outer self are the same self. This way you could have coherent and complete awareness of reality. The mind is like a machine. When all the parts are in the correct places, the machine runs smoothly, but if the parts are out of place, if there are parts missing, or if there is a rock in the gears the machine will not work right.
psychonaut 10/25/14 (Sat) 02:01:34 No. 82
Yeah, but I guess we all can agree that meditation is better because it teaches you concentration and doesn't burnn your serotonin.
psychonaut 10/27/14 (Mon) 22:44:44 No. 84
>>82 And you don't just lose it after awhile, you train yourself in maintaining it while you're doing it.
psychonaut 11/07/14 (Fri) 07:23:21 No. 86
>>80 >Acid shows you that you are a human being living in the world and takes away the sense that you are separate from it. Last time I did acid I ran down the road without a shirt on, beating my cheast and yelling "I'm a human being!"
psychonaut 11/08/14 (Sat) 07:04:10 No. 87
It seems like psychedelics increase the number of active neural connections in the brain; connections that would otherwise weaken and die off. So I'm starting with a materialist approach for sure… but, when we experience sensory or mental process that is extraordinary, we're still human, but, it's breaks otherwise weak connections, and then we find ourselves reflecting on something beyond human, that we didn't know exist. Transcendence. No matter how colorful or muddy – the experience is beyond what we thought we knew. I think the mind is way beyond the machine metaphor though. I'm only starting my own psychonaut exploration, one that goes beyond a mad sampling of drugs, but it seems to me that what we experience can be crafted to accept these supernatural experiences as natural phenomenon. In a practical sense, the line that exists between altered reality and delusion may be much closer to delusion, but if it's controlled, consensual, and desired… doesn't that only matter as far as you're able to sustain yourself in such condition? Meditation is indisputably mind altering, and something that, as traditionally practiced, provides an extremely consistent positive benefit to those who practice it. But have you ever gone ghost hunting? Tried to see the aura of objects? Bend your own perception in a way that contradicts what we know is there? Or maybe just taught yourself to naturally apply a different logical process or perspective in a situation? Our perception and everything we experience as 'human' is malleable. How about when you go asleep at night? We dream, and convince ourselves of an entire world. Full of people, many who we have never met before. We do superhuman feats and experience perspectives of all types that contradict our waking life, without giving it proper thought. Our mind is capable doing these things resting, so why would it be so strange it could do something relative in waking life? In the confines of logic and a materialistic approach, this still offers a huge number of possibilities. To name a few things, we can train our minds to process a certain type of queue or information in a more desirable manner (no matter how elusive the result that our 'black box', the brain, comes up with on processing it); we could experience separate personalities or altered states on command; we could tap into our creative subconscious and sit back into the theater of our own mind with the meditative training to do such a thing. The potential is extraordinary. Psychonauts such as Timothy Leary, Robert Anton Wilson, Alan Watts, Anton LeVey, Tibetan monks, and many others less famous, I refuse to have been men who only convinced themselves of lies. Those who have been afflicted with schizophrenia and powerful delusions likewise experience alternate realities, as unfortunate as those cases are. I do not doubt that the average man sees blue just as the same color as the next average man thanks to common physiology, but our minds are certainly capable of seeing red instead.
psychonaut 11/18/14 (Tue) 03:10:18 No. 90
Bumping for 'please let this board gain popularity'
11/22/14 (Sat) 04:11:04 No. 93
>>90 Hello, I'm the new board owner and I would encourage you to post your suggestions in the "Under New Management" sticky.
11/29/14 (Sat) 15:27:43 No. 112
I've been reading for some time. but how exactly do I need to meditate? If I sit on a chair then my muscles are tensed because I have to sit straight up, if I sit on my back my jaw falls and ruins my breathing and when I actually do it, I either fall asleep or I go in sleep paralysis
11/29/14 (Sat) 21:40:20 No. 115
>>87 I think that's the power of psychedelics, showing that the external world, the supposedly objective world, might be more like the world of dreams which we depart to in our sleep.
I've certainly found that through meditation, reflection, trying to understand the psychedelic experience, reality itself has forever changed regardless of sobriety. I don't think it's malleable, I KNOW it is. Our machines and our art are our subjective consciousnesses moving the objective world into the designs we like, so it doesn't seem much of a leap to say that this process can become more abstract than we've been lead to believe.
12/05/14 (Fri) 12:57:41 No. 177
LSD does the opposite. It shoves your nose into the blunt "meat hook" realities of life. It's like watching the movie Martyrs from beginning to end, absorbing it all, in one instant. And then you get to sit around for eight hours until it wears off. It's no party. However, I did it 35 times because it was a psychiatric drug and I liked to try and transcend my mental limitations. It didn't work. Ultimately, what it did was show me too clearly what my limitations are.
12/06/14 (Sat) 08:35:12 No. 188
>>112 It's okay to have to use muscles to sit up, isn't it?
12/06/14 (Sat) 09:22:56 No. 190
>>177 Maybe it's a far-fetched hunch, but, do you think that a common approach or assumption may be to blame? Expecting something out of a psychedelic experience always, for me, sets things up for failure. I have much more positive results in reflecting on a goalless recreation.
12/06/14 (Sat) 09:53:22 No. 191
>>190 I think part of it is chance/luck.
It's like the psychology/psychiatry division of mental health - psychology deals with the things you can change about your thinking, psychiatry deals with the aspect of the brain you can't control.
What's in between? Metaphysics.
Anyway, I find the environment to be a major factor. The more positive times I had were just non-serious let's shroom today walking in the park driving around. You know, fun.
So, yes, I would agree that attitude is an amplifier.
12/07/14 (Sun) 05:58:20 No. 195
01/20/15 (Tue) 18:42:04 No. 240
I have million questions about this latest trip of mine. So there i was. >Tripping balls, chilling out maxin >smoking on balcony >looking at this particular set of trees >realize how it resembles human body >even has a special thing in the middle stomach like i´ve always felt at this point someone probably knows what i´m refering to>try to move the feeling upward >it moves with a jump to chest <why stop now>get it to head and things become so light I was i bit afraid here, but what could´ve happened>move it just a little bit more up and notice i´m not in my body Sorry for the badly written story but i really wanted to tell it to someone. Like back then and now i´m not sure did really happen or not.
01/23/15 (Fri) 12:02:10 No. 241
>>240 Anyone pls? I´m really alone with this.
01/28/15 (Wed) 19:13:13 No. 244
>>241 What's the question? Sounds like some kind of vision where you felt one with the tree?
01/29/15 (Thu) 15:10:45 No. 245
>>244 I may have been wondering if i imagined the whole thing.
But the truth is there isn´t better answer than inside is outside and Vice Versa.
But atleast it made a story.
03/03/15 (Tue) 19:57:01 No. 262
>>240 Out of body experiences (OBEs) are sometimes reported with LSD.
There are lots of books one OBEs.
Part of how LSD operates is reducing the surface between you and external reality, so its much easier to move your awareness outside of yourself.
Yeah, it happened. Were you actually someplace else? ...