/r9k/ - ROBOT∞

>>112055

Women do want to feel special. Contrary to what PUA tell you, women do like nice guys.

If you're a nice guy to a girl and she doesn't want to be your girlfriend, chances are she probably doesn't find you attractive.

>>112055

>>112057

I forgot to add: Also you need to develop some sort of connection as well.

It sounds like your friend and his girl developed a connection with each other since they'd spend time with each other chilling and laughing and such. Building rapport.

So yeah if you have good rapport with a girl AND you're sweet BUT she doesn't see you as boyfriend material, then she isn't attracted

>>112055

I though women didn't like constant adulation and that was a one way ticket to friendzoneland

>>112057

>Contrary to what PUA tell you

Where does this senseless PUA hate come from? EVERYBODY tells you women don't like nice guys. Except for women, of course.

>>112065

> Act like a man

That's exactly what's unclear and differs from woman to woman and from man to man. It's like saying "be yourself". It doesn't mean anything.

>>112069

There is nothing unclear about acting like a man, you are just clueless.

I would suggest you pull your head out of your ass and hit the gym a few days a week so you can learn some discipline and let your inner man come out.

>>112070

That's both an assload of assumptions on top of a shitty strawman you're pulling there, buddy. I hope your definition of being a man doesn't involve being this shitty at arguments.

I already go to the gym. Discipline, OK, I think most people will agree that's what a man is supposed to have. Of course, we're talking about self discipline here, I take it?

What else?

>>112081

Pro tip

Nice =/= yes man doormat

>Are women seriously this gullible?

the answer is always yes.

>>112081

It's not like they expressly dislike niceness, it's just not a major point of attraction. Between a nice fat guy, and an attractive serial killer, we all know who would recieve the most love letters.

>>112071

The point behind my recommendation to go to the gym is twofold: to become physically attractive (which helps if you are socially not the most gifted person), but also, and more importantly, to bring out your "inner man", the innate part of you that has confidence and is willing to be bold and assertive, yet not brash and forceful.

Women want a man who acts like a man; it speaks to them on an instinctual level no matter how much brainwashing they have been subject to because deep down inside that is what they have evolved to want.

>>112065

So being a pussy worshiping bitch is what a man is supposed to be?

>>112096

Fuck the gym. Buy a power rack and lift at home.

>>112096

You're still dodging the definition of "being a man" that I'm trying to get from you. That's my point. It doesn't mean dick. It's pretty much "be yourself".

And gym isn't some magical cure for your insecurities. I'm starting to think you're the one who never went to a gym. I went to a gym for a while when I was still a beta fag and it didn't help my insecurities much, or at all. Gym alone won't make you assertive or "a man" on an "instinctual level". Geez.

>>112065

>Don't take this as an insult, but you're fucked up in the head and you have a shitty attitude about life.

Not insulted, I get that a lot.

But how so?

>>112121

Since I'm so nice I even went ahead and found some reference material for you.

Just do your best to fit the description of the patriarchy and you'll do just fine.

>>112110

different anon

the #1 manliest thing is mastery

mastery of systems, mastery of creation, mastery of others, mastery of himself

women don't master shit

feminists aren't a threat because they're threatening, they're a threat because they give men mastery over other men

women complain about a mountain being in the way while men climb it

>>112065

Hey look, it's the attitude fag again.

>You all just need a paradigm shift!

>>112055

Seems less retarded than most girls…

Why shouldn't she get with the guy when he is nice to her and cares for her and is obviously interested in her?

It's easy as fuck to fuck girls and get girls to follow you, why you'd want to put in the effort for maintaining a girlfriend though is another matter. You are channeling Elliot Rodger in your posts OP.

Alright shits, time to dispel some of these musings and unfounded suppositions.

Men and women are fundamentally attracted to different things, that they find in the opposite sex. However, key element of the attraction is willingness to engage the other person and pleasant interaction - something that is common for both men and women. Some girls like thoughtful guys, some like muscled hunks. Some guys like blonde bombshells, some like shy bookish types. In each of those cases the interaction won't happen if attention is not manifested and is not mutual.

Now, some people build rapport quicker than others. I had a girlfriend within 3 hours of meeting her at a party and doing her upstairs there, even though she was on period (call bs if you want, I still hardly believe it myself). some people build friendly rapport over few weeks, like in OP's case. The fundamental aspect in each case was attraction and the mutual exchange - what you define as "nice guy" is far from what passes as nice for a girl.

What "girl" am I referring to though? That is the point, there is no hard and fast rule for that and people will find some attitudes and behaviors more endearing than others and where those things meet at the right time, interaction happens.

Given that this place is always seekign some generalities to help thme out with what they search, I will sitck ot the oft-quoted and rather tired, but universally recognized qualities that are defined as "masculine" - confidence, self-respect and outward attitude (at least to the person you are willing to engage with). Given that humans are social creatures and will almost always try to engage others, they react strongly to all of the above as they signal someone that is both willing to interact but also someone who is worth their time interacting with.

Want more general advice? Very well. The likelihood of interacting is always greater between people who are similar or can find some common things - which is why likelihood of finding someone is greater in places that you like or go often to rather than the off-chance at a club or a party that you don't like going to very much (but things still happen, like in my case and I'm not a party guy at all). In OP's example, the guy was willing to make the interactions nice enough to create friendly relations to then establish those common grounds that became basis for a relationship.

tl;dr - PUA a shit, there are no rules beyond being sociable and going where you would like to meet someone.

>>112153

dumbest post ive read all week

Yeah they're like children pretty much

>>112055

I have, I have had a few

The guy made his intentions known which is a must, loads of guys just expect the girls to come to them.Not going to happen.

Girls like funny guys

girls like strong guys

be the type of guy girls gravitate towards

the emotional stuff you see on tv is a big no no

be a bit neurotic, make it all about u and never back peddle

I wish i could explain all this in person, i hate typing

PROTIP: Girls don't know what they want. It's all subconscious feels that bubble to the surface. If you ask them, all they say is what they think they should say or are expected to say. They don't actually know. That's why they seem so arbitrary and contradictory at times. They're not operating from a logical, reasoned base, just acting on impulse and those impulses change inexplicably.