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>Wake up with the sunrise on my 500 acre plot in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, Maine/Ontario/Nova Scotia.

>Walk through the cabin that I built myself, and light the rudimentary oven, also homemade.

>Crack open a couple of eggs, fetch a slice of homemade toast (with butter I churned myself), and fetch some mutton from the stores.

>Walk outside and look at the few acres that I'm cultivating. The planting is finished, and everything is looking well.

>There is corn, squash, beans, potato, tomato, cucumber, mint, basil, etc., etc., in what is essentially a massive vegetable garden that can feed a person for a whole year. It's not monocultured, and sure it's not as efficient as the big commercial farms, but it feeds me and it's much better for the soil this way.

>Milk both the dairy goats, then feed the dog.

>Speaking of the sheep, check on them (there are 6), before doing the same for the chickens (there are 15), and collecting eggs.

>There's not much to do today, as all the hardest planting of the year is behind me, so I only work in the morning before eating lunch (green salad and shepherd's pie) before heading out onto the lake.

>Take the handmade canoe (I made this early on, and it's not very good; I'll have to make a new one sometime soon) and paddle toward the middle before stopping, and begin to fish.

>The catch isn't great today, but I did get a nice trout, which I'll prepare for dinner later.

>Before heading back home, paddle to the far side of the lake and wander around the forest, looking for birds and other wildlife, of which there is plenty.

>My rabbit traps are still empty, but then again I only set them the other day.

>When my mutton stockpile starts to run low, I'll shoot a deer and enjoy venison for the next while.

>Head back to the cabin when it starts to get late, gut and scale the fish, and cook it over a fire.

>Once dinner is finished, look up at the clear, starry sky, and wonder why I ever lived in the city to begin with.

>Sleep dreamlessly, slipping into and then out of sleep as easily as if it were clothing.

>Wake up the next day, doing mostly the same as yesterday, but heading to the forest later as there really is no time to waste in working on the farm.

>Head straight to the forest at some point in the afternoon to check on the traps.

>I've caught one, excellent.

>Decide a bit later to head over to my neighbour anon's plot (neighbour is a strong word, it's about a 30 minute drive).

>He's been out here for a few years more than me, and even though we don't see each other all that often, each of us preferring solitude, I like the guy and he helped me out when I first arrived.

>I bring the rabbit and explain that I'd like to share it, a proposition which he accepts.

>I skin, gut, and cook it in a delicious, thick stew, with carrot and broccoli and potato and onion, which we eat on corn meal.

>We ask about each other's farms, how the crops are doing, how the animals are, etc.

>The conversation turns to the land itself, and after dinner he shows me some of his sketches of the landscape, and of wildlife and birds.

>I admire them for a few minutes, and then head back home, saying hello to anon's dog on the way out.

>Return to my cabin for another restful night.

Anyone other robots want to live out in the country? It's too bad that buying large amounts of land, especially good land, is hugely expensive, especially if you're planning to just sustain yourself and not profit. My only hope is getting rich really quick and living on an absolute minimum, supporting myself in this way, hoping that it'll last a really long time (e.g. no electricity, plumbing, internet, etc.). It'll probably never happen and if it does I'll probably end up disappointed that it's not an idyllic fantasy, but at least it would be isolated and mostly tech-free.

it's obvious that I know next to nothing about living in the country but it sounds like heaven anyway, despite or even because of the hard work



Living out in the country sounds nice, cities are often dirty, crowded, and dangerous not to mention more expensive.

At the same time however its a lot harder to find employment in the countryside besides farming or minimum wage jobs.


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I completely understand the idea of creating the majority of your possessions, but I don't think it's the best option when superior alternatives exist thanks to our collective human ingenuity. The romanticism involved in sailing out on a boat you made yourself and catching dinner with a handcrafted rod is attractive, but it seems almost like intentional obtuseness, not to mention the novelty of doing all this shit (making butter, bread, etc) would wear off very quickly. Shivering in a wooden hut instead of a cabin with modern insulation would be awful, especially in Northern America/Canada. Obviously there's no need to be realistic in your fantasies, but I thought I'd give my (unwanted) two cents.

With that being said, I have toyed with the idea of renting camp grounds for 6 months at a time for dirt cheap and staying there with a tent or optimally an RV. I'm not completely removed from society, but there's isn't anyone immediately around, which is the best of both worlds because I can actively shop in town for food or miscellaneous items and then sleep comfortably alone in the forest.



I also have this fantasy (very nice greentext btw). It's something of a semi-serious goal. Actually cheap good land can be had, the problem is that it's so remote it's impossible to make even a tiny amount of money and you better not be dependent on any store-bought supplies, doctors, mechanics, and the like.

You can do a trial of this lifestyle in a few ways. You can volunteer/work at a farm, go camping, live and travel in your car. Even renting a remote cabin temporarily isn't too bad. Ever though about it?

I'm skeptical about tech-free myself. How would I brag to other robots about my top tier rural NEET life? How would I look things up if I don't know how to do them? How would I watch animu?


You're right, the chores can get old pretty fast. Having to do everything yourself, if you haven't been raised Amish or something like that, is a huge shock. As you say, some modern luxuries ARE very nice - steel tools or polymer fabrics, for example, are not something you're likely to make yourself but you would definitely miss them.

A lot of chores are calming and enjoyable to do, even though it's inefficient drudgery. I enjoy splitting firewood for example, even though you can get a machine for it.

>enting camp grounds for 6 months at a time

I'm thinking of doing something like this next year, when I finish school. I kinda wish I had someone to go with me on this trip, but I suppose the solitude is just something you have to learn to accept.


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> I kinda wish I had someone to go with me on this trip, but I suppose the solitude is just something you have to learn to accept.

You could get a dog. They're a nice companion and a good deterrent against potential threats. They would appreciate the scenery and open wilderness as well. Unfortunately, they won't be able to talk back or play you in DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3, but beggars can't be choosers.


I know this feel, farmbro. I want to be inherit my family's old house, a big old shotgun shack, and revitalize it from its decrepit state. I want to chop down trees, till up the earth, plant, weed, feed animals, breed them, ride 'em, butcher 'em, harvest the fruits of the Earth, drink diluted wine, go hunting, and have a simple, purposeful life with my qt waifu and our bajillion children.


OP here with another autistic greentext. It's basically a rough and idealistic plan of how to actually make the greentext happen irl, but obviously not quite so unrealistically. I'm about to start university which is why my plan starts where it does.

>Achieve undergrad education in tech (luckily my parents will pay for it), taking advantage of the university's co-op system and working my ass off, living like a monk in an old Land Rover or Jeep. I'll try to get my parents to buy me one instead of paying for residence.

>Work two jobs if I can, hopefully with companies that are willing to hire me straight from co-op, still living ascetically and putting aside as much money as possible, aiming to get a 4% return on it but maybe a bit higher. If I saved $20000 in leaf money each year (as if) for five years I would have $111000. A more realistic figure would be 8 or 9 years for roughly the same amount of money, but I could probably make do with less, this is all in the future anyway and it's barely a plan so far.

>Purchase 50 acres or more of land nearish a town, well wooded and with fresh water. It's not quite 500 acres, but I can likely only spend $80000 max. I'll only cultivate 1 or 2 of them anyway, so I can settle for less (but I really really want woods). It won't have great soil but pdf related can fix that for not very much.

>Buy (or better yet, trawl Craigslist/my dad's house for) tools and materials, like boards, large and small containers, furniture (although that can be handmade), and fencing and things. This will cost next to nothing if done right.

>Chop down appropriate trees and build a small log cabin for myself, as well as a cellar (I don't know how I'll manage it, but it's certainly doable), and somewhere for the animals to go in the winter. I'd guess that this will take a year and $10000 if I'm very frugal and fast. Maybe less, but I don't know how to do cellars and am guessing that it will be a large expense.

>Prepare during fall before I move in as in attachment related, making seed beds and a chicken coop among others.

>Buy seeds for vegetables that will grow well here, like tomato, the three sisters, wheat, potato, spinach, etc., and cover plants. This includes a few nut trees. Because I won't be thinning, I'll only allow a 10% margin of error if that, which will save a ton.

>Buy around 6 laying hens, which will be 15-20 eggs a week and then plenty to sell on the market, and a dairy goat or two.

>Come spring, prepare and farm the land as in pdf related, using the clay pot method of irrigation to make electricity obsolete although I might need fluorescent lighting for preparing seedlings indoors… solar panels?. Either that or buried gravity-fed pipes.

>The first year would be relatively expensive, as I would need to spend the most money on materials, animal food, fertilizer, etc., but it might become relatively self-sustaining within a couple of years.

>When I have free time, work on making the greentext in the OP happen, so exploring the forest, making a canoe, hunting, all that.

>Over the years, improve the farm, expand it as much as is convenient, start breeding animals for meat and replacements, introduce a few sheep, get a dog, rabbits, ducks, geese, the possibilities are endless maybe even a robot, if it's possible to find and vet one.

>Die happy.

The plan, if you can call it that, has a few gaping holes, and it would be anything but easy, but I want nothing more than to escape the city and live out innawoods without normalfags, light pollution, noise, internet, or anything like that. It's idealistic and I would certainly spend more money than planned and use more technology than planned, but if I'm patient and conscientious and frugal then I could do it around the time I become a wizard.



If i had the space, resources, and motivation to make things like cheeses and jerky and jams and other food autisms i would. It seems comfy, and a good learning experience. One nice food youtube channel is jas Townsend and son. He does foods from ye olden days


You know whats a comfy place? Northern new york state. I was visiting cousins in the city and took a car there and back and the scenery was nice all the way through. The mountains, the valley towns, the farmlands and marshes, and the forests. Only saw corn farms though.

If you're heading to ny from Ontario id recommend taking the thousand isles border crossing. Generally less crowded than the normal route through the falls, and less citycancer. Although you dont get to see the wine country. Both are comfy, the thousand isles route is more novel to me



>Unfortunately, they won't be able to talk back or play you in DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3, but beggars can't be choosers.

You said it buddy. You got the good and the bad of it spot on. I can't wait to move somewhere bigger and get a dog, but with my current meager money and housing situation I feel like it wouldn't be very good for the dog, so not for now.


I really enjoyed this one too. It actually sounds like a very sensible, sober plan (the biggest pitfall really is that you lose motivation at some point and give up… I guess that's how all dreams go) and I really hope things go well for you and you accomplish your dreams.

I'm actually planning something similar. I've sort of budgeted mentally for about 100 acres based on statistical data about average prices in areas, and I've started saving money. The market returns pretty good these days actually, I sold my 3x leveraged index fund recently for a 20% gain over a few months. But the problem is not getting sucked in when the inevitable crash happens.

I want to try renting out an old, out of the way farm (apparently a lot of people buy or inherit farms which they end up hating, and just let it sit while they live in the city) and living there for a bit, see if I can handle the rough. Or maybe I'll do an internship like WWOOF or just work on a farm for a bit or camp like I was saying above. I feel like if it works out, I have no reason not to keep going, but if it ends in a catastrophe then I can just go back to my city life, but hopefully with a newfound appreciation for it. Either way it should help.

I've been reading some farm books, so thanks for recommending the one you did. What discourages me though, is that it seems like the people who really make money from farming do it by having very strong marketing and people skills. They do a good job of convincing random people to come pick their berries on the farm, subscribe to their regular chicken deliveries, constantly host events like seasonal festivals on the farm and charge people for attractions like hay mazes and so on. They also save money by networking with neighbors and borrowing things from them all the time. Sounds like it's yet another business that disproportionately rewards extroverts.



My family sojourned for a few days right by the Finger Lakes. Commodum ad extremum.


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>tfw live in 150 acres in a rural area

I can get up early on a sunny Sunday morning, let the chickens out, feed the horses, and light my pipe as I walk to the back field to inspect the still dew-coated stalks of corn.



C-can I have… pics?



I'd like to, but I'm afraid it would end as a self-doxx.



If it's so great why are you on a self pitty board?



>tfw I have an uncle with exactly this

I'm trying to figure out how I can convince him to let me live there and help with the corn and cows and whatnot, but I don't want him to think I'm asking to stay there for free. He's got a job as a hs teacher on top of the farm so I think he could really use the help.

On a related note, all the jews in the school system keep dropping him into classes that he doesn't know how to teach because he doesn't actively try to make the kids there feel like shit so they want him to quit. It's pretty fucked up.



Because I'm a depressed sack of shit and have to wageslave because the land is owned by my parents. Being able to taste the fantasy still does not end the ride.



How do you pick up a goose, i wanted to do that before i die. Might just run up to one of the canada geese here and grab it



My grandparents have some crops and I've helped them with them before

Taking care of crops seems easier in some regards, and much harder in others than most people expect.

Planting isn't too bad if you till your soil mechanically. Harvest is an assload of work though. Other than that it's mostly just watering and keeping pests off. Pesticides just aren't goddamn worth it, go organic. It's a lot more work, but at least you're not poisoning yourself. I've had to kill plenty of potato beetles by hand, and it's more boring than anything. Sometimes you get lucky and there aren't many pests. When that happens you can literally just sit on your ass and the food grows itself.



Don't live out of a vehicle dude, just come somewhere where the cost of living is super low. I live in a small town in Kentucky, I have a 2 bedroom apartment, and rent is only $340 a month. A studio apartment is probably even cheaper. Utilities (power, water, internet) are like $140 a month TOTAL. You can get a month's worth of food for like a hundred bucks. Shit's easy in the south, you can literally live on minimum wage here if you had to.


You should play Deiland.



>you can live on minimum wage in the US

Too bad that Im a European so I wont be allowed to live there.


Buying land is gay. Might is right, conquer it, don't buy it



Land can be cheap out in the sticks.

If you can get enough money (yeah, that probably means working, sorry) then you can set up somewhere and be pretty well set for life if you can bring in enough petty cash to pay your power bill and property taxes.

That's the upside.

Here's the downside:

-You will be crushingly alone. I don't just mean "baw haw I don't have anyone to talk to", I mean "baw haw I broke my leg and I'm gonna have to drag myself a quarter mile to the house before I can call for help on the land line, or 2-3 miles to the nearest neighbor if the lines are down". Don't expect cellular service.

-You will have to do everything yourself. It's a titanic amount of work. You'll truly sleep the sleep of the just, because you will be bone fucking tired every fucking day. It's a good tired, though.

-You'll need to be friends with your neighbours, which means you need social skills. Farmers are generally easy going, easy to get along with, and when they're not - then they're royally fucked the second shtf.

-You'll work your body to pieces and hurt in your old age in ways that you didn't know were possible.

That said, it's a viable choice if you're strong enough to pull it off.



>It's a titanic amount of work.

This, there is a reason why in most farming communities people used to pop a child after another, any help you can get with work there is priceless. Growing crops, or tending to animals is a fucklot of work and your little fantasy would rather be working from sunrise to the point where you will literally collapse into your bed at night, rinse and repeat

Not a fun life, unless you are really rich and just larping with some chickens and a vegetable patch here and there.



absolutely patrician

I am studying ecology and hope to one day settle down with my own permaculture and live comfy


Yup it's quite idealistic indeed but hey, in the end you will have a full time job anyways wherever you are. I am from a developing country, my grandparents are self-subsistence farmers and I used to spend all summers in their town. It's pretty hard work, even with one cow, a few chickens and a donkey (and of course crops, 1 hectare, and fruit trees, and maybe the occasional pig) they both spend a lot of time each day. Not to mention making butter and those things, or not being able to go on anywhere because you have to take care of a pig or whatever (you probably wouldn't want to go or holiday or something but things like doctors etc where you have to travel far).

Some old tools are still surprisingly useful, for example the scythe is relatively efficient and not noisy. washing clothes is a real pain in the ass though (now my grandparents have a modern washing machine because they have electricity now)



> 500 acre plot in the middle of bumfuck nowhere,

Cool anon, I'm sorta living this fantas-

> Maine/Ontario/Nova Scotia.

Oh…you're one of those city faggots that thinks a coastal hipster town is nowhere. You really are autistic, and you'll never be a rural hiki like me. Enjoy wearing headphones and keeping things kosher for your neighbors.



Holy shit you're just like me, only I don't consider it a fantasy. I'm only 19, it's my life goal I'm working towards.

>Anyone other robots want to live out in the country?

Absolutely. My life goals are as follows

>Born and raised in Montreal, Quebec, Canada

>Second largest city in Canada, French speaking, I'm English

>Live in area where nobody speaks French or English as first language

>I live in a shithole

>Visit rural areas a lot growing up

>Slowly realize that's exactly where I want to spend the rest of my life

>Currently in college (Quebec has no grade 12 in high school so I need those credits to go somewhere else)

>Plan on studying agricultural science at the university of Saskatchewan

>After getting a bachelors degree I plan on moving to Idaho to get a masters (I probably won't be able to afford going directly to America

>Hope someone will be willing to sponsor me there so I can live there and eventually become an American and renounce my Canadian citizenship

>Live out my days doing something rural and ideally agricultural

>If all fails, I'll happily become a truck driver or commercial fisherman



There is no free time when you are living on the farm. It is hard work non-stop.


Do you guys know any efficient ways to grow things like onions and potatoes and other root/in the ground food? I heard about the potato box, but that seems like a lot of dirt. Also can you leave things like that out in the winter and the plants wont die? Replanting the box seems like too much of a hassle


Any good books on farming? I only know of some dude on YouTube that does slightly sensational videos about how great old and alternative techniques are (like using compost to feed chickens or a sythe to mow lawns)


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Having a large garden is a better alternative than owning a farm, less work and just enough to eat. I think about living in the frontier states, the prairies, or Alaska for survival fantasies where there's actually no one around especially in Alaska.



John Seymour is basically the standard for books on self-sufficiency.



Just ask him. If he says no, drop hints about how lonely it is out there, norms hate being alone


You have to sneak up on one and grab it from behind, geese have no defenses on the rear but they can detect you preferably use a partner to attack the front.




OP, you might like this Herzog doc.

"Happy People: A Year In The Taiga"

>a year with independent fur trappers in Siberia




>it's obvious that I know next to nothing about living in the country

It's painfully obvious that you don't know a thing. Life on a farm involves a fuckton of hard physical labor. You have to be up before dawn, and spending your nights jerking off to anime porn are out, because you'll need to go to bed early so that you're well rested for the next day of drudgery. If you think you can enjoy that, the more power to you. A comfy job in an air conditioned work place is more to my liking.


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>Buy farm

>Open invitation to anons

>Their "comfy farm fantasy" is my "free laborers"

>Plantation livin' here we come



Polite sage for doublepost.

Just farm grain. If nothing needs harvested or planted there's fuck all to do except some machinery maintenance and insecticide/herbicide application. You want get the same dollar per acre you would with cattle, but that's your priorities. Mind you my experience in this regard is sub-300 acres. Probably lots more to do on multi-thousand acre plots.



I liked one called Successful Small Scale Farming by Karl Schwenke. The old yellow one, no idea if the new "organic" version is any good. Decent overview for a beginner, although some of it is a bit out of date now.


I like to jack off in the morning, should be compatible with the farming lifestyle, hmm?


This is unironically my dream. I'd arm them too and coordinate so that we vote as a block on town matters.


I've heard that grain farming is very unprofitable, especially below 1k acres. Apparently the margins are very thin, you get kiked when selling harvest at the grain elevator, and the only way to make a real profit is to leverage mechanization on massive scale which only the big conglomerates can afford. Curious to see you say otherwise.



You're right that grain isn't super profitable. It does scale so I wouldn't call it unprofitable, but you won't be a king as a small holder. We do corn, soy, double crop soy, and winter wheat, and to better make ends meet when grain prices dropped we started planting sunflower, white corn, and other higher value cash crops. You've got to maximize income per acre so growing the more unusual things is more profitable but often more of a gamble. With a smaller acreage, however, taking those gambles is really less risky than on a large farm. We also lack debt so as long as we can pay utilities and property tax it's fine. Lots of farmers get stuck in the debt cycle by purchasing large, expensive machinery because they need such tools for their massive acreage. Smallholder farming isn't a get rich quick scheme, but you can do it. We dropped cattle because it was unprofitable at small scale, and we get a better return per acre having the former pasture planted rather than running cattle on it.

Also yes some sort of /r9k/ farming collective would be a good time. My great-grandfather was a subsistence farmer. Get a bunch of us together and on a few hundred acres we could produce enough to be self-sufficient I'm sure. If /k/ is organizing to build a commune /r9k/ could as well.



>We also lack debt

I was guessing this is the case. I think this changes the economics quite a bit. My own plan is to try and save enough money to buy the property outright, but that will take several years more than buying on credit and that's time I spend office slaving instead of gaining valuable farming experience. I'm still not sure what I'll end up doing.

>Smallholder farming isn't a get rich quick scheme, but you can do it.

Anyways, I don't think anyone is looking to get rich quick here. The question is if you're starting with little to nothing, can you actually get to paying the bills and not have to do 9-5 at some company, or would you fall into a debt spiral.

Do you mind giving some details? How many $ does an acre go for near you? What are some typical harvests you get per acre? How much do you sell it for? Is the machinery all yours, borrowed from friends, or leased/rented?

>Get a bunch of us together and on a few hundred acres

If I was you and had this goal, I would offer people from here work on your farm in exchange for room and board and possibly a small stipend depending on how much training and what conditions you plan to provide. Once they get the hang of it help them find nearby land to settle on. Fastest route towards forming a commune. But I suppose many people would balk at inviting people such as anons here onto their property and into their home.



It's my parents farm so once I move out it's the end of the line for my autistic farm dwelling. If it were my land it already would be a commune. I don't know the finances of it to be honest, just that we get by on 250 acres. Land is something like $6k an acre tillable here. We own our machinery, but it's all from the 1980s or older. Dad started as a sharecropper and worked other jobs when he started. Land was cheaper then as well.

If you're just getting into farming you will definitely need a 9-5 job on top of it. If you buy land outright especially. You can look into cash renting. There are many options here. Some places provide machinery so long as you maintain it, others have you bring your own, some have a house with the rent, others you rent the house separately, some have an option to rent to buy even (very rare). The terms are all over the place because it's just somebody who wants to own the land but doesn't want to farm it.

You could look into sharecropping as well. Similar set up except the landholder is paid a portion of the harvest. Not nearly as common anymore as most landholders prefer the certainty that comes with just charging $X per acre per year.


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Not big on farming, but gardening sounds nice.


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you literally described what i have been planning for since i was 16

i am currently in the works of finishing my apprenticeship at IT so i

can get a job and start saving up by living on the bare minimum

untill i can afford for a plot of land, till then i am reading a lot on bushcraftand survivalism,

with a bit of Evolian reactionary literature and "Conan the Barbarian" thrown in there so i get the autistic spirit of rebellion aganist the jews and the normalniggers



Sounds like you're sitting on over a million of property there. There's other relatives with a claim, sure, but taht's a nice situation to be in. Pretty different from the arch-typical lower class farmer who is barely making ends meet.



nice! I was planning something similar, but where i live the land is hard to grow crops because it is high above see level, but atleast it is too cold so that there are no insects/bugs at all.


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Fantastic fantasy, OP.

Have pretty much the exact same fantasy, you just took the words out of my thoughts and laid them out to for that post.

It's a really comfy fantasy, yet I too know next to nothing on living out in the rural country, aside from maybe a few things, and would probably not be prepared for all the hard work and/or maintenance, especially building the cabin and monitoring the livestock/crops.

Not sure if I would personally want to have a dog with me though, although I see the benefits, what if it gets sick/injured? The livestock will be pastured and hopefully will be kept safe, but what about the dog running around? Worth it?

Many things we can learn, like how/when to plant the crops, how to maintain the firearms/traps, etc…

However, the winters/cold times would scare me significantly, since nothing would grow, what would you feed your animals and self with?

Also I would add having some pots to make cheese in and a few glass jugs/carboys to ferment sugars in to make crude alcohol with, as well as a small, simple distillery to refine it and make clean useful spirits.

Sorry for the wall of text, just some thoughts from a like-minded anon.

Don't know why, but a really sudden urge came over me to start up a new world in Minecraft, as autistic as it sounds.



>mosin ammo is cheap

>rifle ammo is cheap

What year did that anon post?


Ah I see.

Prices don't seem that high, but not exactly inexpensive or cheap.



>ar food steel 0.18/rd, brass 0.26/rd

>ak food 0.18/rd

>nugget food 0.40/rd

Sounds like you're posting from a couple of years back as well. I'm guessing nogunz?



$0.40/round isn't cheap when many of us remember when it was $0.05. As well twice the cost of AK/AR ammo makes it expensive in comparison.


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All of these cabins are getaways owned by rich people, they build them as hobbies and leave them there. Just a step above of urbanites getting "back to nature" while being cluelessly cancerous. Excuse my geography but I think this is California too.



Reminds me of this portion of Kentucky I was in for a while. Up in the mountains, all the homes were little tin roofed shit shacks. On the outside that is. Every single property was hundreds of thousands of dollars, the insides of the shacks were completely modernized with the outsides left "rustic" intentionally. All weekend retreats for rich fucks from elsewhere.



>$0.40/round isn't cheap when many of us remember when it was $0.05.

Well, fair enough. Although I still don't think it's that much. I would reload if I couldn't afford the $30 worth of ammo I shoot in a range session.

>As well twice the cost of AK/AR ammo makes it expensive in comparison.

It's got twice as much powder and 3x the bullet mass of 5.56. Why wouldn't it cost more? Still, I get the allure of buying surplus at below cost.



Yeah the first pic is a good example, the "rustic and worn" exterior is actually furbished so it won't degrade and will stay looking good and poor so people thinking you're down to earth, you can subtlety tell that it took a couple thousand dollars to build it with the materials they used and their taste as well.

I hate cityslickers and carpetbaggers.



>ar food steel 0.18/rd, brass 0.26/rd

>ak food 0.18/rd

>nugget food 0.40/rd

is that u.s dollars? I'm not a murican.




>All of these cabins are getaways owned by rich people

they still look pretty comfy though, and similar to ones people build and actually live in.

heck anyone can live in one of those for sure and be comfy.



Not everyone wants to shit in a rusty bucket while squirrels gnaw at their scrotum.



>while squirrels gnaw at their scrotum

Nah, it's the raccoons you really gotta worry about. One time several of them were working together to steal our fucking trashbag full of trash and drag it off into the woods.





People who are actually concerned with living there don't bother with fake rustic exteriors.



It's sour grapes pretty much. If I had the money I'd do the same. Making do with less is an impressive skill but it becomes obsolete as soon as you get money.

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