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 No.309028

please logically defend eating meat. animals such as pigs, chickens and cows are fully sentient and conscious, and suffer tremendously as a result of your taste-bud preferences. human dont need ANY animal products to have optimal health, and animal products consumption are commonly associated in the medical literature with things like obesity and heart disease

and its extremely unethical. enslaving, torturing, castrating, raping, and murdering sentient animals for your amusement is not an ethical justification. dont you think its funny how so many depressed virgins on /r9k/ and complain about the abuse you've experienced in life by the hands of insensitive normies, but turn around and perpetuate much worse violence unto innocent animals?

like honestly, half of this board has people complaining of depression, being abused by normies/their parents, stress, being in pain, wanting to kill themselves, etc. do you think theres any irony in by eating meat you are contributing to suffering that is FAR AND AWAY in excess of anything that you've suffered in life, yet you have the nerve to complain about your petty problems? dont you think eating meat is hypocritical of you, if you complain about your problems in life caused by other people more powerful than you?

these animals dont want to die, experience torture, live in a small cage their entire life, or be raped, but they do experience those things just for your simple tastebuds and food preferences. im sure "muh yummy in my tummy tum tum, its fun for me haha" is not an ethical justification you'd accept if someone was to mistreat you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko&t=802s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao2GL3NAWQU

 No.309029

>>309028

Was AI not enough for your autism eunuch-kun?


 No.309030

I don’t give a shit about ethics or if animals suffer. The only good argument is sustainability, but the solution to that is letting the third-world starve and die out so whites have more room


 No.309031

File: 0a149ce23f811b2⋯.jpg (207.88 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, Smithfield-Circle-Four-Far….jpg)

>>309029

well, i enjoy shitposting in anonymous imageboards just as much as anyone, because its my only socialization, but ive largely had very negative experiences with people here, thats why i mostly avoided this website. but some topics bother me to such an extent i cant not avoid speaking about them

definitely ai was one of them. for me ai is such a huge event in my life because it literally proves that god is going to be born. literally ai is going to reach human level intelligence and eventually recursively self-improve itself until its practically a god. i became obsessed with ai around 2016 until the point where i unquestionably believed in the existence of god, this is a very large change in thinking in my life

i dont know which religion is correct, but for me, ai is very important. this is the thread you are referencing to, i do think its relevant. for me, the belief that god exists is what pushed me into stopping to be a hypocrite, and into veganism

https://web.archive.org/web/20190102063124/https://8ch.net/r9k/res/260266.html

>Was AI not enough for your autism eunuch-kun?

the reason why i made this thread is because in principle, it bothers me that adult male virgins are going aroudn being massive delusional hypocrites and abusing animals and eating meat. i genuinely care about real virginal robots, and when i see them abuse the weak for their amusement it fucking hurts me. so thats why im speaking about this subject. so no, my ai thread was not enough for me to be satisfied with making threads here, but that thread was almost a year ago

so answer me, are you a vegan, why or why not, and what is your opinion on the subject. please dont respond with ad hominids or character attacks or insults, im interested in the topic of the op


 No.309032

>>309028

Fuck off, eunuch-kike. No one likes you.


 No.309035

File: a0ae647d0648d39⋯.png (1.81 MB, 1344x756, 16:9, crying cow.png)

>>309030

>I don’t give a shit about ethics or if animals suffer

i hear this a lot from meat eaters. to what extent are you willing to push this statement?

have you been inside a slaughter house? have you personally killed a pig that was very nice and cuddly to you 5 minutes ago?

would you be okay with us eating dogs or eating chimps or niggers?

would you be okay with bringing back slavery? how do you define who are humans and who are not? back when slavery was legal blacks were not considered human

would you be okay with people hurting you and abusing you?

are you okay with being a massive hypocrite? what is your opinion on hypocrites? do you like such people?

btw, if you secretly are not okay with being a hypocrite but still cant feel compassion, going vegan should statically increase the parts of your brain associated with compassion, because the brain is plastic and parts of the brain that you use grow in size. vegans literally have larger parts of their brain that is associated with compassion

https://www.care2.com/causes/study-shows-vegans-are-more-empathetic-neurologically-speaking.html#15521648190802&action=expand_widget&id=0&data=

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/animal-emotions/201207/brain-scans-show-vegetarians-more-empathic-omnivores

https://www.care2.com/greenliving/do-vegans-and-vegetarians-have-more-empathy.html#15521648198052&action=expand_widget&id=0&data=

>The only good argument is sustainability

hmm… this is a environment argument, but personally i couldn't care less about the environment because i hate humanity and in a sense i want the world to burn. one of the nicest things about eating meat its ruining the world and the planet, and i fully support this. im an actual misanthrope and if massive global flooding happens as a result of meat eaters, i have to commend you guys for your anti-human actions. if i wasn't poor id burn fossil fuels just to make up for my positive environmental impact

>>309032

i understand nobody likes me, thats why i largely stay away from this website, but you haven't presented an argument, you just call me names. are you a vegan, and if not, why?


 No.309036

Listen vegan fag people here don't care about fucking pigs being raped and killed, ok? This site is thankfully barely used. Also, no one wants to eat like a fucking coward. You should grow some nuts and fucking eat meat you dumb ass nigger. The point i'm making here is 1. This is not the site to spread your gay veganism 2. No one on this site gives a single fuck 3. Go cry on twitter.


 No.309038

>>309035

>I should care about literal animals

t. soyboy


 No.309039

Eunuch kun, the problem here is that you are a jew. No one here will ever listen to a jew on anything. If you have a problem with this, ask your brethren to stop destroying the world.


 No.309040

File: 2af28905b034bfb⋯.png (17.39 KB, 643x450, 643:450, coward.png)

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>>309036

>Also, no one wants to eat like a fucking coward

maybe so, but dont you think its cowardly to eat meat without looking these animals straight in the eyes and killing them yourself?

because your bacon, stirlion steak and fried chicken all come from sentient animals who are capable of suffering deeply

i honestly do respect people who regularly do kill their own animals and eat them, because they atleast are not uncomfortable with murder for amusement, but do you think all people are like this? do you think most people, even the people on this very board are capable of killing animals for their tastebuds? are you?

dont you think eating meat if you cant kill these animals is infinitely more cowardly than stopping eating meat? pigs are literally more intelligent than dogs btw, they are capable of feeling a very wide range of emotions, such as pride, joy, love, hate, envy, green, pain, hungry, horny, happy, etc. their neurological development is commonly compared to a 3 year old human

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mza1EQ6aLdg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSC0EzteRyw

>>309038

wouldn't it be nice if you had something more complex to say than low quality meme name calling?

btw, statistically vegans have higher testosterone levels and are skinnier than meat eaters. just pointing that out

https://medium.com/@ARespectfulLife/vegan-men-have-13-higher-testosterone-levels-d9b940b8db0

https://www.veganfirst.com/article/the-real-reason-why-vegans-last-longer-in-bed-scientifically-proven

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/pdf/83-6691152a.pdf

>>309039

dude, where are my jewbux? arent all jews suppose to be rich and powerful? why do i live in poverty if i supposedly have connections to the jewish overlords who control the world? i even try perpetuating jewish stereotypes, like stopping and picking up change on the street if i find it and rubbing my hands, but still i live in poverty, people just look at my awkwardly


 No.309041

File: 72aaa35509452ec⋯.mp4 (3.34 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, chinesedog.mp4)

STFU faggot and enjoy a well done dog steak


 No.309042

Ok I am gonna take the bait.

So you really care about veganism and animals suffering? Then why do you come here of all places? A place that is small and populated with people that don't eat much anyways, because sitting in their house all day doesn't burn much energy. Vegans also have to take supplies and or have to have a special diet to make good for the abundance of important nutrients and vitamines that they would get through flesh and many robots allready dont care that much about their diet so they'd deffenitly have a worse living condition with it.

Next, why don't you do something about it, again when you really care about those poor animals? Why are you not doing affirmative action to save as many animals as you can now and in the future? The hypocrite here is you. This world is way to big that even if you would stop most countries of western civilisation to eat meat, there still would be millions of third world shitters who wouldn give a fuck about your arguments and would laugh about you.

And I think that most if not all robots here would be capable of killing and hunting the animals they'd want to consume, but they are simply not motivated enough or don't have the recources to do it, so again preaching here wont bring you anywhere.

I agree that in an ideal world mass farms should be abondoned and meat should be aquired mainly through hunting. But we live far away from an ideal world and you know it. By whining about animals here you expose yourself as a leftist. Have some Ted

The leftist is oriented toward large-scale collectivism. He emphasizes the duty of the individual to serve society and the duty of society to take care of the individual. He has a negative attitude toward individualism. He often takes a moralistic tone. (…) He tends to identify with victims. He tends to be against competition and against violence, but he often finds excuses for those leftists who do commit violence. He is fond of using the common catch-phrases of the left, like “racism,” “sexism,” “homophobia,” “capitalism,” “imperialism,” “neocolonialism,” “genocide,” “social change,” “social justice,” “social responsibility.” Maybe the best diagnostic trait of the leftist is his tendency to sympathize with the following movements: feminism, gay rights, ethnic rights, disability rights, animal rights political correctness. Anyone who strongly sympathizes with ALL of these movements is almost certainly a leftist.

>so we learned today leftists are hypocrites and gay niggers that should kill themselves


 No.309043

I eat meat because I'm a man. Factory farms are fucked up, seriously nightmares incarnate. I kill my meat quickly and minimize suffering, unlike kikes, Muslims, and chinks who induce as much suffering as possible because they think it makes it taste better.


 No.309045

>>309040

The problem with comparing the health of vegans to the general population is that vegans are at least in possession of a basic understanding of health, fitness, nutrition, etc. While the general population is overweight, eats fast food daily, drinks soda and alcohol regularly, and so on.

To really have an accurate comparison you'd have to compare athletic vegans with athletic omnivores or even carnivores.

Also being an herbivore is gay as fuck. My ancestors didn't fight their way to the top of the food chain so I could cry about it and eat a diet for a prey animal.


 No.309047

>>309031

>man who removed his testicles went fucking insane

Checks out


 No.309048

Reminder that plants are living beings and killing plants is the same as killing animals. Just because they're more alien in nature to us than other mammals/fish/etc, doesn't make them any less alive.

Vegans are murderers who disregard life solely because it seems further removed than animals.


 No.309049

File: 3ec0e943c0eab11⋯.png (17.27 KB, 648x373, 648:373, hypocrisy.png)

File: a63f4c5768b23a2⋯.png (131.41 KB, 818x952, 409:476, appeal to futility.png)

>>309042

>Then why do you come here of all places?

because the only people i have love for are the suffering depressed virgins, like myself. i dont care if the mass normie horde eat meat or not, they are delusional psychopaths who contradict themselves all the time, using logic and words to communicate with them for me has historically always been a horrible experience

>A place that is small and populated with people that don't eat much anyways

actually i think that being overweight isn't that uncommon here. the average weight for humans has been increasing for years, and im sure the population on this board reflects that to some degree. not to mention depressed bullied people are statistically more likely to be fat. theres a reason why fat neckbeard is a sterotype

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/11/161111132249.htm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3749079/

>Vegans also have to take supplies

only b12, but b12 is regularly injected in farm animals because they dont produce it themselves. b12 is made by bacteria that is suppose to be found in water, but out sanitized clean water has no b12. thats why fish have b12, because they eat bacteria. not to mention a large portion of meat eaters are also b12 deficient

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3j80WpjM0M

personally i take a supplement ever 3-4 days

>abundance of important nutrients and vitamines that they would get through flesh

PLEASE PLEASE tell me what those are. PLEASE honestly unironically i want to hear what those are pleaseee

>and many robots allready dont care that much about their diet

for a long time i was like this. you can eat tons of junk food on a vegan diet. oreos, fried noodles and french fries are vegan. i gained weight on a vegan diet because i literally binged on chocolate wafers every single day, it was all i ate

>Next, why don't you do something about it, again when you really care about those poor animals?

odly enough i dont really care about the animals, i care that robots are hurting them and being hypocrites. i feel as much apathy to animals suffering as people getting hit by a car or a bus full of people crashing and burning

>The hypocrite here is you

so you're saying its hypocritical of me for not being a more extreme activist? i have a moral standard for myself for murder, torture and enslavement, and as a result i avoid doing the same to others, including animals. however, i do not have a moral standard for everyone being a turbo activist if there's an injustice going on. i think its unreasonable to expect all people to be these virtuous outspoken activists. like lets say a homeless person was vegan and really did believe in veganism, do you think its reasonable to expect him to be the next gary yourofsky?

>Why are you not doing affirmative action to save as many animals as you can now and in the future?

how can you tell me im not? how can you judge me correctly and tell me im not? do you think its reasonable to expect me to fight in the streets and protest everyday if im a depressed NEET loser who cant even clean his room? bro it took like me like 3 days just to make this thread out of anxiety and procrastination, how can you unironically expect me to be this jesus christ figure?

>This world is way to big that even if you would stop most countries of western civilisation to eat meat

this is an appeal to futility, and its fallacious logic. you can use this same logic to justify murder of humans. "bro, even if all modern countries stopped eating meat, those third world monkeys will always enslave and kill one another, look they've been doing it for thousands of years"


 No.309050

Veganism doesn't care about animals. Vegans only care about how vegans feel about animals. This is about the vegans not about the animals. Vegans are selfish.


 No.309052

If you can't sustain yourself through photosynthesis, there's nothing hypocritical about eating other living things. Have you ever looked into anthropology? Our precursor species developed proper brains when they included meat in their diets. Vegans are fucked up, their health is in shambles and all the studies they present to back their diets are designed from ground up to have results favoring them and the farming industry. Majority of research is utterly worthless because of data manipulation, the same way that reported statistics are worthless while the raw databases they're derived from might paint a picture closer to truth.

You also didn't eat your balls, I don't think you fed them to any animal either. Being wasteful with food is the real hypocrisy.


 No.309055

Go back to wizchan cuck.


 No.309056

File: 531091eecfc1c1e⋯.png (315.58 KB, 2518x1024, 1259:512, 531091eecfc1c1eed76a01ad85….png)

All that sugar in a vegan diet can't be healthy for you. It's always the vegans getting hysterical over people liking what they don't like. They get downright hysterical from the constant sugar rush they have to experience every few hours to fend off the dreaded crash as if they're cocaine junkies.

The fat in meats contain leptin, which is a hormone related to satiation and feeling good. I've been following a carnivore diet for a month now and it has definitely improved my mood and cognitive functions. It has actually reduced my urges to murder things or do wacky shit like slicing my balls off. The consumption of meat produces hormones that tell my body and mind that I have made a successful hunt and that further carnage is unnecessary.


 No.309057

End industrial civilization. Hunt and kill your own food. Freshly killed meat has taste and its flavor is amazing.


 No.309063

>>309056

>reduced my urge to cut my balls off

>having the urge at all in the first place for it to need to be 'reduced'

>implying


 No.309065

Sucks to be prey nerd. Life has to consume, sometimes it's just light and minerals, other times its jewing the proteins and whatever that other animals created.


 No.309066

>>309040

>eunuch couldn't resist lust and overcome it mentally so he chopped his testies off

>doesnt have the stoicism to kill an animal so he thinks "it looks cute" and "its friendly to me" is valid arguments for not eating meat

Not even surprised. What next eunuch? Bleaching your intestines to reset your gut bacteria?


 No.309070

>>309045

Didnt the extra source of calories or proteins or something helped to create a surplus of nutrition that could go into mental development? I remember seeing a documentary or a vid claiming that. Also if you have to hunt for food id assume you start to think a bit more, as your food source isnt rooted to the ground. Hunting is probably what allowed humans to get this far intellectually.

Speaking of, what smart animals didnt hunt? Dolphins eat fish, octopi eat crabs and such, pigs are omnivores, and hunt for truffles apparently. Maybe whales? I heard they were bretty smart, but they eat a lot of small krill and stuff right


 No.309072

>>309041

Why did that dog take so long to die? I heard flames (from a flamethrower at least) killed pretty quickly


 No.309073

>>309072

People who die in a fire of any kind pass out from the fumes and lack of oxygen before the temperature could kill them.


 No.309076

Slaughterhouses are a problem but they won't go away with the current population. There's nothing inherently wrong with eating meat though, fucking vegan faggot.


 No.309078

>>309028

>please logically defend eating meat

Sure. When snow covers the ground, you have to eat something unless you want to torture yourself on a diet of pine cones/pine needles.


 No.309090

>>309078

They believe in "survival of the fittest" basically bored of life and want to struggle through the winter to see who wins and who loses. People who are bored of life make life difficult for everyone.


 No.309091

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>>309078

are you living in a pre-industry society? do you not have a choice of what foods you have to eat? do you not living in a hyper-capitalist society where some dude will deliver you food at 3am in the morning in under 20 minutes at your convenience?

like are you some survival caveman in a life or death situation, or are you some lazy shit in the cradle of society who buys all of his food from fast food stores and supermarkets?

like, if you were living in venezuela and were killing animals for your survival, i wouldn't judge because over there they dont have a choice. its either the animal dies or they die. but it seems to me like you have a choice to buy what foods you want to buy?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-crisis-zoo-animals-stolen-eaten-food-shortages-nicolas-maduro-a7898006.html

you're literally enslaving and torturing sentient animals in a ruthless ENDLESS hell for your taste pleasure, and you're comparing yourself to a hunter gatherer on the brink of death hunting to survive. do you think this is a fair comparison?


 No.309092

>>309035

>would you be okay with bringing back slavery?

Unironically yes


 No.309093

>>309091

Address this post you subhuman kike filth: >>309048

It's absolutely true, and by denying it and ignoring it you reveal your typical kike hypocrisy.


 No.309094

>>309091

>are you living in a pre-industrial society?

No.

>do you not have a choice of what foods you have to eat?

?

>do you not living in a hyper-capitalist society where some dude will deliver you food at 3am in the morning in under 20 minutes at your convenience?

Do you think I can afford that crap?

>like are you some survival caveman in a life or death situation?

No.

>like if you were living in venezuela and were killing animals for your survival, I wouldn't judge

Judge away fag, lol. This statement implies I should care about your opinion.

>you're literally enslaving and torturing sentient animals in a ruthless ENDLESS

Endless implies they're still sentient after they're dead.

Read up on the Neolithic era when you have a chance. Abundance of food, even food destructive to human health, was the evolutionary strategy that beat out all the much healther, much more physically fit hunter gatherers. Quantity > Quality, and that's why america and its tremendous obesity, massive health problems, etc. etc. have a substantial say in world affairs.


 No.309097

File: 52268f080e23373⋯.jpg (43.71 KB, 900x708, 75:59, 846e4a77a052082bb5df326ed1….jpg)

>it's not an ethical justification

It's certainly not, it's a pragmatic justification. It would be lovely if I could get low calorie protein from quinoa or whatever, but I happen to not have an unlimited amount of money, so lean meat it is. Yeah, slaughterhouses are unbelievably cruel, but subjecting myself to a life of poverty or obesity is simply not going to happen.

>back when slavery was legal blacks were not considered human

>IMPLYING


 No.309098

Might is right, kid. The animals would treat you the same if one of them "won" the evolutionary lottery instead. I'm an apex predator so I can eat what I want. Whether plants or animals die, something has to for me to be sustained. I don't see a clear line between plants and animals, just life which happens to be weaker than me or just dumber than me that can sustain me. Someday I will die and become food for plants, insects, bacteria etc. Such is the order of things.


 No.309099

>>309040

Yes I grew up on a farm and I am perfectly capable of murdering even adorable baby animals for food.


 No.309100

>>309091

These animals were bred to be food. They were not bred to be sentient. I believe you are mistaking these animals for the wild ones who haven't had their intelligence deleted.


 No.309102

File: 2f77f62c07a1ea5⋯.gif (238.98 KB, 500x500, 1:1, (you)3.gif)

>He is back again

Veganism is just part of the jews assault on the common man. Jews make shit-quality foods the standard, and proceed to push diets like veganism that deprive you of the proper nutrients for brain growth. Humans only evolved their minds by starting to eat meat.The jews strive for a future where they are the only ones that can afford to eat animal products.

The only ethical solution is to humanly raise/hunt animals to eat yourself. Bonus points if you sell what you can't eat yourself to fuck over food industry jews.


 No.309103

File: db92a31b5107eb6⋯.jpg (30.04 KB, 800x463, 800:463, giant_chickens.0.jpg)

File: c32b3ce397612eb⋯.png (25.06 KB, 1692x223, 1692:223, sentience.png)

File: cbb170d3ab69ca6⋯.jpg (189.71 KB, 772x430, 386:215, IMG_1119.JPG)

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>>309100

>They were not bred to be sentient

wrong! they were bread to grow large and to be easy to work with. they were bred to be very fearful so they wouldn't rebel and fight back. the reason why these animals are castrated at a very young age is because eunuch animals castrated before puberty grow much larger than non-castrated animals. the influencing factor dictating what direction breeders push their genes is MONEY. theres simply more money with large fat easy to work with animals, than smaller more unruly animals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience

theres even a bit in there about ai sentience

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/animal-emotions/201711/cows-science-shows-theyre-bright-and-emotional-individuals

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jul/07/cows-best-friends

https://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/factory-farming/cows/hidden-lives-cows/

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/07/150714-animal-dog-thinking-feelings-brain-science/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150428081801.htm

https://www.livescience.com/39481-time-to-declare-animal-sentience.html

http://theconversation.com/heres-what-the-science-says-about-animal-sentience-88047

>for the wild ones who haven't had their intelligence deleted

industrial farmed pigs are more intelligent than the smartest breeds of dogs

>>309093

>killing plants is the same as killing animals

plants are not sentient. they dont have the ability to suffer, exprience pain, love, hate or any emotion. they dont have a brain or a neuvour system, unlike mammals, who all have a brain and nervous system and can all suffer and experience love and hate

and even if you actuallye believed in what you were saying, going vegan reduces the amount of plants killed because vegans consume a much smaller amount of plans than meat eaters, because cows each like 17 kilos of corn to make like 1 kilo of body weight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRfX4X0V54A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gwAaMXbOnE

killing non-sentient beings doesnt hold the same moral weight as killing sentient beings. killing humans who are in a vegetative coma state for the rest of their lives doesnt hold the same moral weight as killing a fully sentient human being

https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/plants-are-alive

okay because of all the stress associated with making this thread i ate a lot of vegan junk food today that i shouldn't of ate and now im bloated and feel bad, but atleast i made this thread


 No.309104

File: d4275cb4e096818⋯.png (48 KB, 651x352, 651:352, 93de0515ced1b0e709f7c8ca91….png)

>feeding the eunuch attention rather than just telling him he's a testicless kike

Come on now guys


 No.309105

>>309028

And i was just having some sympathy for genuinely autistic people. You ruin it for me tree hugger faggot.


 No.309106

>>309103

>plants are not sentient

Prove it. Just because you can't define or detect their sentience, and they're unable to communicate it with people, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Plants are still living beings that you choose to murder while hypocritically claiming to be against killing living beings for food.


 No.309107

>>309028

>please logically defend eating meat

It tastes good. If I knew what humans tasted like and it was good I'd probably be fine with eating them, also if it was legal. I hear we taste like chicken. Finger lickin' good! At least I'm consistent. I know I wouldn't be butchered for meat because I'm real skinny, fatfags and fitfags are probably real tasty.


 No.309120

<please logically defend eating meat. animals such as pigs, chickens and cows are fully sentient and conscious

I hope you realize that you can't make "logical" arguments about ethics without ethical postulates.

So I'd say that animals are categorically not humans (no human on the planet, barring mental illness, would recognize an animal as a human) and are not subject to the rights humans have. Pragmatically speaking, it makes no sense to apply the concept of rights to all living organisms. Should we not aggress against viruses, mold, harmful fungi, or diseases until they have transgressed against us? Should we avoid stepping on a cockroach unless it has committed aggression against us?

Your examples of animal intelligence/"sentience" are largely cherry-picked examples of media sensationalization and confirmation bias. People would like to insist that animals have a level of intelligence comparable to humans or "souls" when really they are just projecting their own ideas of sentience on to the animal. Animals demonstrably do not reason to the extent humans do. They do not form large-scale social systems or economies that result in mutual benefit while preserving the individual interests of each agent. They only know how to hunt or be hunted. Animals do not have philosophical systems. They do not possess the concept of "fairness" or "rights", much less recognize the "rights" of humans. The only reason the domesticated cow is not known to trample over humans as it does insects and blades of grass is because it is placated and physically incapable of doing so. The snake does not consider the cruelty of eating the largely defenseless hare. So we do not apply ethics to animals.

<and suffer tremendously as a result of your taste-bud preferences.

Not all of them do. I'd say quite a few live pretty good lives, having their primary needs in nature taken care for by humans.

<human dont need ANY animal products to have optimal health

Cholesterol.

<and animal products consumption are commonly associated in the medical literature with things like obesity and heart disease

I'm guessing you're referring to the mainstream US health community of the 90's and the 00's drawing correlation between cholesterol/saturated fat consumption and increased risk of heart disease, which has been largely debunked. Consumption of sugar/high fructose corn syrup, on the other hand, which are most commonly derived from plant sources, have also been shown to cause obesity, diabetes, and a plethora of other problems.

<and its extremely unethical.

Not an argument.

<enslaving, torturing, castrating, raping, and murdering sentient animals for your amusement is not an ethical justification.

Well, it's not an argument, nor was it intended to be. And neither is it for "amusement". I think you would find that most people don't actually condone the torture of animals, and most people do not derive enjoyment from the act of inflicting pain upon animals, and most people also understand where their food comes from.

Moreover, I think you already know this. I believe you are deliberately reframing the argument and refusing to accept certain points, backhandedly accusing people of actions they have demonstrably not committed, trying to put them on the defensive, to make them look lower than you from a moral standpoint. Your extremely passive-aggressive rhetoric suggests that you didn't come here to have an argument. You frequently respond to answers with questions that attempt to place a frame of immorality upon your opponent. You came here to demonstrate, likely to yourself, that you have the moral high ground, and you came here to try to use that status to lord over everyone, in true normalfag fashion. Not only that, but after all this you still try to paint yourself as the victim.


 No.309121

>>309120

<dont you think its funny how so many depressed virgins on /r9k/ and complain about the abuse you've experienced in life by the hands of insensitive normies, but turn around and perpetuate much worse violence unto innocent animals?

Did you use the word "perpetuate" here just because it looks and sounds similar to the word "perpetrate"? Are you implying that we have an ethical obligation to prevent people from harming animals?

<like honestly, half of this board has people complaining of depression, being abused by normies/their parents, stress, being in pain, wanting to kill themselves, etc. do you think theres any irony in by eating meat you are contributing to suffering that is FAR AND AWAY in excess of anything that you've suffered in life, yet you have the nerve to complain about your petty problems?

People have a right to complain about their problems, no matter how big or small they are. This is the same as saying that we cannot complain about the quality of our food because children are starving in Africa.

<dont you think eating meat is hypocritical of you, if you complain about your problems in life caused by other people more powerful than you?

<these animals dont want to die, experience torture, live in a small cage their entire life, or be raped, but they do experience those things just for your simple tastebuds and food preferences. im sure "muh yummy in my tummy tum tum, its fun for me haha" is not an ethical justification you'd accept if someone was to mistreat you

I think what you are trying to say here is that people justify harming animals purely on the basis of might makes right. I respect the rights of people in general, and I think many of my problems are a result of aggregate stupidity/misinformation rather than the fact that certain specific people may or may not hold power over me.

<study shows vegans are more empathetic

Here's a thought. Maybe being predisposed to empathy leads to veganism rather than the other way around. That seems much more reasonable to me than "going vegan increases the size of your empathy". You haven't explained why anyone would want to increase his/her empathy in the first place.

<muh environmental sustainability

You're not going to run out of water from feeding cows, nor are we going to run out of land; give me a break. Malthusianism is silly. At one point in US history, over 90% of the labor force was involved in agriculture. This is actually true of most third world countries. Now less than 1% of our labor force is involved in agriculture. Land usage statistics are similar. It takes many orders of magnitude less land and manpower to sustain a family these days than it did prior to agriculture. It is through agriculture, not hunting, that human civilization came to dominate all other species on the planet. Through modern technology and agricultural techniques we have managed to make much more efficient use of our current resources than ever before. How else can you explain the growth of global population occurring at such a rapid rate? It's not because people are fucking more than they used to. It's because our technology allows for this large population. Sure, there may be localized areas of famine and poverty due to local political/environmental conditions, but there is no global impending famine, and barring a nuclear war, there will never be some kind of global famine.

If you somehow manage to deplete the clean water supply to a critical level, the supply curve will adjust. As the marginal cost of extracting/producing a unit of fresh water increases, prices for all water-consuming activities will increase, and new techniques, practices, and technologies will emerge from necessity to conserve water usage, as has been the case in every part of human history when we have been faced with adversity. Market mechanics will perform the appropriate rationing mechanisms.


 No.309122

>>309121

<if you wouldn't kill your own meat you're a coward and a hypocrite

<low quality meme name calling

Calling people "cowards" is low quality meme name calling. It's "ur gay" phrased more politely. You're not changing any minds with this. People understand where their meat come from, and if they were as opposed to it as you are, they would go vegan, just like you. They just might not like the conditions of work. Do you think people shouldn't use garbage bins because they wouldn't want to work as garbagemen? It's called "division of labor". Some of us get paid to do the jobs others don't want to. If everyone wanted to do it, they wouldn't need to pay you to do it. If you think it's "cowardly" to divide labor, too bad. Efficiency, wealth and the economy don't care.

I find it highly amusing that you feel the need to reference articles that state that vegans have higher testosterone levels and can fuck for longer on /r9k/ of all places, after cutting off your own penis.

>Muh BMI

Why are we taking some arbitrary metric + some arbitrary government limit's word on the health of eating a certain diet?

>literally torturing enslaving sentient animals ENDLESS hell blah blah blah

yeah fuck off mate.


 No.309131

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>>309049

>PLEASE PLEASE tell me what those are. PLEASE honestly unironically i want to hear what those are pleaseee

I mainly ment b12 but also proteins. I have known some vegans that looked like sticks because their parents forced them to be vegan from birth.

>but muh body builders

Yea they are very concious about their diet so naturally they are not having any deficits. Again many robots dont have enough money or dont care enough. I can only speak for myself but if I buy meat and have enough money I buy organic meat or meat from hunters. I would hunt myself but I do not have enough money for it.

>so you're saying its hypocritical of me for not being a more extreme activist?

An extreme activist would defenitly achive more than your shit posting on this board, but I mean that you could do a thousand things that would achive more than what you are wasting your time on right now. And thus you are a hypocrite, you say you care but you don't do anything actually usefull, because you are here and write long shitposts, literaly wasted time.

>how can you tell me im not? how can you judge me correctly and tell me im not? do you think its reasonable to expect me to fight in the streets and protest everyday if im a depressed NEET loser who cant even clean his room? bro it took like me like 3 days just to make this thread out of anxiety and procrastination, how can you unironically expect me to be this jesus christ figure?

You really love to strawmen dont you? I never said you should go on the street. If you would care enough you would self improve, clean your room and actually work on solving the problem, because I think even though you are very malicious that you have some brain left in you.

And you have not replied to the leftist argument, which again exposes you as hypocrite identifying with victims. To give you a methaphor that you might understand, it's like you are on a boat that has a big leak and is slowly sinking. Some people try to fix it others just don't care or don't want to see it. You on the other hand have detected a crack in one of the windows in the boat. Does that window need fixing? Yes. Is it "right" to fix the window? Yes. But what you do is, you run all over the boat screaming in peoples faces "

>UUUUuu muh window needs fixing please logically defend fixing windows.

Do you see the hypocirisy in this? The boat is sinking, taking everythin living with it and you care about windows. Sure this metaphor might be extravagated but I wanted to make it as clear as possible for you to get.


 No.309132

>>309131

Also if you would have made a thread about the ethical question, or about discussing veganism in an utopian, ideal society this thread could have had more potential and you wouldn't get mocked and insulted that much and you could have some civil discussion on top of it. But instead you open this thread blurting like a niggerkike


 No.309133

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>>309028

1)Life is suffering

2)Free-range farm-raised animals live a better life than I ever would

3) Eating meat is what allowed us to increase our intelligence and become human

4) You could have at least said "vegetarianism". Taking eggs and milk adds no harm to the fowl

5) Veganism, besides being nutritional unfeasible, is unsustainable. Forests need to be cut down to grow all the crops, and a lot of land is only suitable for grazing.

6) It's not 'ethical' either, not even by its own standards. You think a giant mechanized monstrosity sowing the ground for cultivation isn't gonna make sushi out of any badgers and rats that happened to burrow nearby?

7) Like all cancerous ideologies it's based on an overextended premise of equality. Animals are animals. You can 'befriend' some, but they will never be your equal. They can't even understand your reconstructed concept of "ethics" divorced from your evolutionary history.

8) Speaking of overextended equality, where do you draw the line? Plants feel pain too. As the buddha said, all life is suffering. You either accept that, or you don't.

I agree it's best to minimize animal suffering, but the problem is not our omnivorous diet, which we've had for hundreds of thousand of years. The problem is overpopulation and mass-industrialization of society. This causes suffering for humans and animals alike. Read Ted Kaczynski .

Does anyone of your family own land? Have you ever worked on a farm? A real one? You should at least get to know some animals before you can speak for them .


 No.309134

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>>309120

>I hope you realize that you can't make "logical" arguments about ethics without ethical postulates

well, i assume you have ethical standards for yourself, and for other human beings as well. im assuming that you think its wrong to go around genocide large groups of people because genocide is bad. the same things for slavery

for you to hold yourself to one standard but arbitrarily hold other people to another standard unfairly at your convenience is hypocritical

>So I'd say that animals are categorically not humans

i understand they're not human, but seriously, how do you discern what's deemed worthy of moral consideration? do you think niggers are worth moral consideration? they are stupid, violent and not capable of building civilizations. how about gorillas, in your opinion is it alright for me to start a gorilla farm and treat them in the same way we treat pigs? how about dogs?

assuming you believe in evolution, where would you put the evolutionary link between humans and chimpanzees? richard dawkings makes a great point about this exact topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgmjh7bh7Ks

>Pragmatically speaking, it makes no sense to apply the concept of rights to all living organisms.

im not saying they all need rights, im just saying that stopping the hellish torture and murder of animals is something we should strive towards

> viruses, mold, harmful fungi, or diseases

im not against vaccines or medicine, and those things you stated are not sentient and dont have a nervous system or a brain

>Should we avoid stepping on a cockroach unless it has committed aggression against us?

well, this is a moral grey area and i just dont see how it justifies torturing pigs and cows or has anything to do with the subject. if we were debating on whether we would genocide asian people from america, and someone brought up cockroaches, would you accept that as an arguement?

>Your examples of animal intelligence/"sentience" are largely cherry-picked examples of media sensationalization and confirmation bias

i respectfully disagree. almost universally animals have been declared sentient and concious by virtually all universities and academia. ive linked you my sources, and i would really like some sources from you showing that animals are not sentient. PLEASE give me some academic sources showing animals are not sentient

heres the cambridge declaration of conciousness

http://fcmconference.org/img/CambridgeDeclarationOnConsciousness.pdf

> Animals demonstrably do not reason to the extent humans do

i never said animals have the same levels of intelligence, but i did say that animals are capable of feeling virtually the same wide range of emotions as humans, including suffering, love, fear and joy

>They do not form large-scale social systems or economies that result in mutual benefit while preserving the individual interests of each agent

so is this a justification for enslaving and torturing and killing them? niggers and aboriginal australians also dont do this, do you think its okay to bring back slavery? mentally retarded people also cannot participate in social systems. do you think its okay to kill and enslave and murder mentally retarded people because they cant participate in society?

>Animals do not have philosophical systems

neither do children, or the mentally retarded, or psychopaths or arguably niggers/australian aboriginals. does that justify enslaving and killing them?

> The snake does not consider the cruelty of eating the largely defenseless hare

snakes and lions are obligate carnivores. they literally cannot eat plants, they absolutely have to eat animal products otherwise they will literally die. they cannot have moral agency or accountability because they are literally dumb animals. we dont hold mentally retarded people morally accountable for their actions as well, because they cannot reason or control themselves. but human beings can, we have a choice, where as lions and snakes do not

>Cholesterol.

dietary cholesterol has been strongly associated with heart disease. why are you so quick to dismiss the vast amount of literature that shows the health dangers of dietary cholesterol?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V8BW00zZTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBtfzd43t8o

but hypothetically, lets just say you're right. does that justify eating meat? dont you think its possible for human beings to survive or even thrive without any animal products? do you think we need to eat cholesterol? about about the claim that the human body creates enough cholesterol for all of its needs? im not a doctor so thats why i dont argue the health side too much, but it seems to me like going on a vegan diet doesnt exactly end your life


 No.309135

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>>309120

part 2, jesus these posts take forever

>I think you would find that most people don't actually condone the torture of animals, and most people do not derive enjoyment from the act of inflicting pain upon animals

i would hope so, thats why im trying to point out how animals live in industrial farms. these animals experience a lot of fear and stress before they are killed in the slaughterhouse. but some people in this thread to claim that they couldn't care for the animals.

>refusing to accept certain points

no, you just have to be patient with me, im trying to communicate as genuinely as i can

> that you have the moral high ground

i actually do think i have the moral highground, but i didnt come to smugly shitpost about it, i came to convince people to join my side and stop killing animals. smugly shitposting about my superior moral status is left in the domain of 4chan and the infinite hordes of normies there.

>but after all this you still try to paint yourself as the victim

i am jewish after all, what do you expect? *hand rubbing intensifies*

>>309121

>Are you implying that we have an ethical obligation to prevent people from harming animals?

thats literally what im suggesting we do. in the same way that we stopped slavery or genocide of various races, we should stop it for animals. this is elementary levels of compassion and behavioral standards

>People have a right to complain about their problems, no matter how big or small they are

im not saying they dont and i love anonymous imageboard for that exact reason. it allows me to relate to people who feel the same pain and who endured the same kinds of suffering in life that i have

but dont you think its ironic to hear the people here cry about their problems when they go around hurting animals? for example, let say this guy in video related tortured and killed a dog, but complained about how his parents grounded him and took his xbox away. would you have sympathy for this person? to make an extreme analogy, its like a serial killer complaining how he cant watch tv and play videogames all the time in prison, and that other people harras him in prison. its hard for me to ignore the irony

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9d2_1471527843

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CiVa1_1528851886

>This is the same as saying that we cannot complain about the quality of our food because children are starving in Africa

see, i dont think this is a fair comparison because the starving kids in africa didnt hurt anyone, and meat eaters DO hurt animals

>muh environmental sustainability

yeah, i concede all points about the environment. fuck the environment, i unironically recommend people to go in the amazing and burn all the trees down, i seriously dont care about the environment, im not arguing for it

>People understand where their meat come from

i disagree

https://mercyforanimals.org/study-people-dont-want-to-think-of-meat-as

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ronaldholden/2017/06/15/do-not-underestimate-the-ignorance-of-the-american-eater/#4760b1af7645

"40% of California 4th-graders (5th and 6th graders, too) didn't know that hamburger comes from cows" ignorance on where meat comes from, how its made, how the lives of industrial farmed animals is like is very common. dont doubt how ignorant most people can be

> They just might not like the conditions of work. Do you think people shouldn't use garbage bins because they wouldn't want to work as garbageman?

nah i dont think people have a huge problem working in dirty conditions. im sure most people clean up rotting compost on a regular basis from their fridge, and dont have any problems with it, even if they sniff the foul stench of rotting potatoes and 5 month old tomatoes. but i do think they would have a problem with killing an animal with their own hands. most people say shit like "i love my dog hes like a family member, UwU~" all the time, including adult male virgins, pic related, robots love dogs

>after cutting off your own penis

testicles, actually


 No.309136

>>309135

I can't speak for much else, but I have two dogs. I care for them because they play around and are generally a distraction from suicidal thoughts, or otherwise maladaptive thoughts. I don't consider them my equals, nor a part of my "family". They are pets, nothing more. Also:

>fuck the environment

Animals that you supposedly feel compassion for live in that environment. Dumb kike.


 No.309137

>>309028

STOP SPAMMING YOUR VEGAN BULLSHIT EVERYWHERE THIS IS A BOARD FOR VIRGINS


 No.309138

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>>309137

im not just a virgin, im a 28 kv castrated virgin. i dont have any testicles as i am eunuch. my shenanigans are kinda infamous on this board, which is why i largely have avoided it. heres proof https://archive.fo/iDtsG

please dont call me a normie or claim im not a robot, thanks. veganism is a topic that is relevant to robots because when robots eat meat they financially support the torture, rape, enslavement and murder of animals who are stressed out as fuck and who dont want to die. robots dont like the idea of hurting animals or hurting other people, but they still do this when they eat meat, and im just trying to point out the contradiction in their actions, pic related, robots are less likely to enjoy bullying the weak

>>309136

k well apparently veganism is good for the environment or whatever, but i honestly dont really care

>>309121

>You haven't explained why anyone would want to increase his/her empathy in the first place

this is arguable the most important question in this thread. WHY should you stop being a hypocrite? WHY should you even care?

ultimately i cant stop you. "you can bring a horse to water, but you cant make it drink" as the saying goes. the only thing i can do is point out the potential contradictions between your beliefs and your actions, and hopefully it might work

but i think the best reason as to why you shouldn't be a hypocrite in any circumstance, let alone veganism, is because god exists. hypocrisy is always wrong, because its something that goes against your moral standards

for example, lets say i regularly told people its bad to smoke, but i secretly smoked myself. this would be hypocritical of me. hypocrasy is simply behaving against your moral standards, and this is by definition always wrong. and the reason why you shouldn't do it is simply fear of god

i argued for the existence of god in this post >>309031

now i dont know which religion is correct and i do think its kinda unreasonable to believe in any religion, and i do think that you have to be irrational to believe any religion by faith, even though i do it myself, but i dont believe its irrational to believe in god, and god's existence is a reason why you shouldn't be a hypocrite


 No.309139

>>309028

>logically defend

>logically

Meat is good, therefore I will continue to eat meat.


 No.309140

>>309028

>saying you don't care is not an ethical justification

I'm not a moralfag. I'm perfectly fine with my actions being morally bad.

>back when slavery was legal blacks weren't considered human

they aren't


 No.309141

>>309138

>It's the eunuch kike

Can you either kill yourself or take antipsychotics, please?

I don't give a fuck about your images of abused animals, I'll go on enjoying eating copious amounts of meat, and I don't need to justify this to the apex retard who cut off his own balls because he read some sentence in the bible that said eunuchs are cool or something.


 No.309142

>>309141

The ironic thing is, the part of the bible that said that wasn't talking about cutting your balls off, it was talking about if, as punishment for advocating Christianity, you had your balls cut off, as that was one of the many ways the early Christians could get punished aside from the main way of just killing them, if that happened you wouldn't be condemned for not having balls or anything. Constantly Christ taught that your body is a temple of god and, as such, you shouldn't destroy it by cutting part of it off.


 No.309145

>>309138

>robots dont like the idea of hurting animals or hurting other people

hello? beta uprising? ring any bells? also

>I'm kinda famous on this board lmao

die in a fire attention whore. this is an anonymous imageboard


 No.309146

>>309138

>k well apparently veganism is good for the environment or whatever, but i honestly dont really care

No it's not, can you not track with a simple conversation? >>309133


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>>309145

Imagine being such a tremendous retard you're easily recognizable from your ramblings alone


 No.309155

>>309138

>28 kv castrated virgin

>vegan

sounds accurate


 No.309156

>>309028

I don't need an ethical justification. Animals do not participate in society, and they are of no moral consequence to anyone who doesn't give a shit.


 No.309157

Aren't humans animals too? Does our intelligence exclude us from the rest of nature when we fundamentally have the same instincts, namely, self-preservation above all else, as every other organism on the planet? Why does one species out of millions have an abstract obligation not to kill animals, when the rest are permitted to slaughter countless organisms on a daily basis? The conceit of veganism is pretending that homo sapiens are not animals and that our innately animal nature is something to be abhorred. It's condescending anthropocentrism at its finest. If anything, meat eaters are more humble than vegans, at least they embrace their nature as participants of the food chain and don't play games of self-loathing make-believe.


 No.309161

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>human dont need ANY animal products to have optimal health


 No.309169

>eunuchs hates people (humanoid animals) and wants "AI" (some mighty fictional deus ex machina he jerks his ball-less dick to) to enslave them

>eunuch cares about edible animals which are enslaved to be eaten as food by more intelligent lifeforms

I see, eunuch-faggot is a retarded hypocrite.

So, judging by normalniggers, eunuchs and other subhumen, if you are not a sentient, self-aware being, the lower your T is, the bigger is your empathy? Or is it the virtue signaling tendencies that are getting stronger?


 No.309175

>>309138

>>309135

>>309134

Look eunuchanon, I would really like to read your posts, but your redditspacing is too much to handle,


 No.309176

Just as I don't care about dead niggers, I don't care about dead pigs and cows either. Why? Because I'm superior, and I can do whatever the fuck I want. Equality is a false god, the only thing that matters is strength. We conquer everything lesser than us and there is nothing a retard like you can do about it.


 No.309179

>>309176

He conquered his balls and there was nothing anyone could do.


 No.309182

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>>309028

>fully sentient and conscious

doesn't even mean anything, what is conciousness? what is sentience?

>human dont need ANY animal products to have optimal health.

Stop spreading lies, a vegan diet has literally no protein.

>animal products consumption are commonly associated in the medical literature with things like obesity and heart disease.

Also lies, post studies.

>and its extremely unethical. enslaving, torturing, castrating, raping, and murdering sentient animals for your amusement is not an ethical justification. dont you think its funny how so many depressed virgins on /r9k/ and complain about the abuse you've experienced in life by the hands of insensitive normies, but turn around and perpetuate much worse violence unto innocent animals?

Ridiculous, why are farm animals more worthy of life than the millions of microorganisms you destroy by merely having an immune system? they are not, human morality only extends to creatures that are capable of understanding and are willing to cooperate on prisoner dilemmas scenarios, that's why it extends to dogs and why we treat criminals as less human.

DON'T FUCKING AVOID THE POINT, WHY IS KILLING BACTERIA AND SMALL INSECTS A.O.K BUT MUH CUTE FARM ANIMALS MOVIES TOLD ME HAVE HUMAN EMOTIONS MUST BE GIVEN SPECIAL TREATMENT

>>309040

>third image

>bmi

>not body fat percentage

>not some measure of performance

>not life expectancy

>scratch that last one, can't even be done because nobody has been a vegan for a complete lifetime

pic related.


 No.309183

>arguing with a kike

Didn't you learn anything from uncle Adolf?


 No.309184

>>309183

I got nothing else to do.


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>>309182

>Stop spreading lies, a vegan diet has literally no protein.

dude i literally eat so much protien i need to stop. beans and lentils have comparable protien levels to beef, pic related

>Also lies, post studies.

https://www.peta.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/obesity/

https://www.cancer.org/latest-news/world-health-organization-says-processed-meat-causes-cancer.html

https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choices-and-cancer/red-meat-processed-meat-and-cancer/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2697260/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5466943/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrsBpPHbHlg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdZjh6JcdRw&list=PL5TLzNi5fYd8A1Zto94SN2ny3qlCRFjIL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXigmGZk5FU&list=PL5TLzNi5fYd8FjyRK69fnvN3nX4TCvrez

>DON'T FUCKING AVOID THE POINT, WHY IS KILLING BACTERIA AND SMALL INSECTS A.O.K BUT MUH CUTE FARM ANIMALS MOVIES TOLD ME HAVE HUMAN EMOTIONS MUST BE GIVEN SPECIAL TREATMENT

tier 1 straw man, what does bacteria or bugs have anything to do with morals?

bacteria dont have a brain or a nervous system, and its unreasonable to care for their feelings because theres likes a billion of them in your spit alone and we cant interact with them. they cant feel pain or suffer, and they are too small for us to interact with. but mammals like pigs or cows or chickens are not too small to interact with

bacteria and insects are just so irrelevant to the topic, you wouldn't bring up bacteria and insects when speaking about human morality or ethics, and you wouldn't accept "but bacteria maybe has feelings tho" as an argument some someone to mistreat you, its simply irrelevant

its the same thing with plants. plants dont have feelings or a nervous system or a brain, and plants are probably more significant than bacteria because they are large enough to interact with and are a much more complex lifeform, but they arent sentient or conscious and cannot suffer

>using pics of roided up dudes

vegans can use steroids too, pic related

>using pics of skinny dudes as an attack on vegans

being skinny is the fucking GOAL. the problem isn't vegans are too skinny, the problem is everyone is so fucking morbidly obese. those skinny people you linked are happy with their body, unlike most of the overweight meat eaters, such as boogie2988

>not life expectancy

https://chriskresser.com/do-vegetarians-and-vegans-live-longer-than-meat-eaters/

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/vegan-meat-life-expectancy-eggs-dairy-research-a7168036.html

https://prime.peta.org/2012/11/longer


 No.309186

I agree with you OP, the tide is turning and more people have this mindset and outlook. The world is changing, humans need to as well


 No.309187

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309028

The simple fact of the matter is that your idea is predicated on the assumption that life is about happiness, and that is simply not the case. It's also predicated on the assumption that all life is inherently valuable, what is literally insane. Least of all that of an animal. This is all so demonstrably false

>dont you think its funny how so many depressed virgins on /r9k/ and complain about the abuse you've experienced in life by the hands of insensitive normies, but turn around and perpetuate much worse violence unto innocent animals?

Almost literally everyone here deserved what they got, and or are someone whose suffering is irrelevant as they'd never of amounted to anything anyways. You are SO up your own ass. Fucking get real, almost nobody cares about anyone. Boo hoo the animals, but fuck those human children in straights elsewhere in the world that don't have it as good, am I right? Nobody cares. At least I don't pretend to care either way, you hypocrite. You are SO fucking full of yourself. These animals are literally born to be killed, and yet you have more sympathy for them than humans who, at least these days are suppose to, hold the presumption of innocence and have inherit value in their lives.

>dont you think eating meat is hypocritical of you,

No. These animals are literally born to be eaten, and if not born to be eaten they'd of not been born at all.

>if you complain about your problems in life caused by other people more powerful than you?

Every man has the right to happiness but must earn it, be it from others or themselves. You can choose to forgo suffering. That is on YOU, not anybody else. Boo hoo, you had a bad day. Get better.

>is not an ethical justification you'd accept if someone was to mistreat you

If you can't defend yourself, you have no rights. Simple as.


 No.309188

>>309185

Bacteria are still living creatures. Your deeming them unworthy of life is no different from humans killing animals. You deem a lesser lifeform to be less worthy of life than you. Just because they lack certain things that animals have doesn't make them any less alive. The same goes for plants.


 No.309189

>>309036

Eat shit and die

If we cant embrace veganism we dont deserve to criticize the jew


 No.309190

>>309188

Bacteria have less senses. The less senses and less intellectually ability the less wrong it is to kill.


 No.309192

Veganism as a whole is quite fine, but I think some amount of protein during wintertime is quite necessary. Fat doesn't produce heat, but it does help insulate the body so that you don't freeze to death, and nothing is going to provide that needed fat through the winter months quite like meat. I don't think even fish does it as effectively.


 No.309194

>>309185

Your dancing around the obvious facts that insects do have a nervous system, a brain, feel pain and are a size that can be interacted with is hilarious.

>>309185

>using pics of roided up dudes

>shitting on motherfucking scoob

next you're gonna tell me vegan gains isn't A) a massive narcissist asshole and B) a cheat who still eats meat

>>309190

is it less wrong to kill a deaf person? no, it's less wrong to kill a murderer because he's proven he can't cooperate effectively, most non-socialized animals completely lack the ability to cooperate effectively and therefore deserve no mercy.

>>309189

>If we cant embrace veganism we dont deserve to criticize the jew

>if you don't agree with me you HAVE to eat poopoo

nice argument


 No.309195

What does any of this have to do with /r9k/?


 No.309198

>>309195

Nothing, castrated OP is just attention whoring.


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>>309187

>Almost literally everyone here deserved what they got

so the depressed virgins who statistically got bullied and abused in this board got what they deserved?

>and or are someone whose suffering is irrelevant as they'd never of amounted to anything anyways

so the suffering of the weak and the losers is irrelevant because they are never going to become winners and successful?

>Fucking get real, almost nobody cares about anyone

well, we do have a large /pol/ board dedicated to the politics and events surrounding human life, people it seems to me do seem to be interested in the lives of other people. and this board does care about themselves and for other robots, for instance. the robots in this board do care to avoid being abused and harassed by the normie hordes, and its common for people here to complain about the suffering they endured at the hands of stronger normie bullies

>At least I don't pretend to care either way, you hypocrite

i actually genuinely dont care about the animals or normies on an emotional level, ive repeatedly stated this. whenever i hear of babies dying from cancer, families dying in car crashes, my first instincts is to play this in my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj20Ao4Vw9w

i understand that logically this is a tragedy and that logically its wrong to hurt others (which is why i dont hurt others), but on an emotinal level i just cant relate to normies. this might be because my own needs have not been met in life and ive been abused in life, which is common for virgins, pic related

but the reason why i started this thread is because i care for robots and for adult male virgins because i can relate to them and because i grew up in imageboards with other losers for many years. and it hurts me when robots go around hurting others and being delusional hypocrites, it hurts me to see robots fat. i DONT CARE if non-virgins eat meat or not, if all imageboards were shut down tomorrow and i could never interact with non-virgins i would never speak out. i get no emotions from listening to pigs screaming in gas chambers, etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVR7NjnMkIc

>These animals are literally born to be killed

and thats the problem, they shouldn't be bred into existence in the first place. does the fact that they were bred to be tortured and killed justify these actions? if we bred niggers to work a hard life, be whiped and castrated, and be killed when they become useless, does that justify doing so? would you like being a slave to people more powerful than you? you know, back then all kinds of races owned slaves; arabs, whites, jews, niggers, etc

>If you can't defend yourself, you have no rights. Simple as.

so in principle, you think might is right? so if someone stronger than you comes and curb stomps you until your teeth break and your jaw breaks, then rapes your sister and mother in front of you, that person is morally ethical? so weak people shouldn't have any rights? its moral for me to go around killing children because they are weak and im stronger?

go vegan you fucking hypocrite, or atleast tell me whats stopping you


 No.309201

>>309200

>so in principle, you think might is right? so if someone stronger than you comes and curb stomps you until your teeth break and your jaw breaks, then rapes your sister and mother in front of you, that person is morally ethical? so weak people shouldn't have any rights? its moral for me to go around killing children because they are weak and im stronger?

Obviously. And if you're not as strong as you boast that you are, than those children's parents gut you and kill your family in vengeance. It goes both ways.


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and before i forget to write this, let me say this

its so fucking hypocritical for anyone to care about politics and eat meat, like to the point of absurdity. politics is centered around the lives of other people, at the core, thats why we are interested in politics. we have boards in /pol/ where these hypocrites cry about white genocide all day

>abloooo abloooo look at these crime statistics ='((((

>huueeeee hueeeeeeeee waaaaaaa niggers are killing whites in south africa :'((((

>look at these muslim rape gangs! =OOO HOW COULD THEY! OH THE HUMANITY ABLOO-ABLOO

>waa waaaa waaaaa look at these bloodies up whites in south africa :'(((((( look they are so sad niggers are such savage apes! :'(((

>how can these cruel animals hurt whites like this? we just want to be left alone, but they keep hurting us, whites are victims!

>whites are these innocent angels who never hurt anyone, its these niggers and spics and jews who hurt other people, look at this crime statistics =OOOOOO wow!

and then they turn around and kill pigs and cows and chickens like its nothing. pigs and humans have a nervous system and an ability to have subjective experiences in a way that is BIOLOGICALLY IDENTICAL. in the same way that niggers and whites experience emotions the same, pigs also experience them the same. if you kick a pig it will feel pain in the same way that a human would if the human was kicked. their nervous system is BIOLOGICALLY IDENTICAL, THEY CAN SUFFER

but whites cry all day about the boo-boo's they recieve with niggers, but go around to torture pigs and cows for their tastebuds

dont you guys find this just a little bit ironic and hypocritical? honestly anyone who takes politics seriously is a fucking JOKE. that entire board is an intelectual joke, i cannot take them seriously. those hypocrites would fucking hunt down ANYONE who hurts dogs for instance, yet they have pigs on their plates every fucking dinner. this is what being a normie is: being a delusional hypocritical retard who contradicts themselves and isnt even aware of it


 No.309204

>>309203

One's my race and the other is some animal dude. They're not even close to being the same. Are you going to tell me next I should cry about the fly that hit my windshield this morning?


 No.309206

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>>309204

how do you discern who is your race or not?

are german people? are russian people? are italians? are turkish people? are arabs? are niggers? are latinos?

what about mixed people?

>One's my race and the other is some animal dude. They're not even close to being the same

so in principle you dont think what niggers are doing to whites is wrong, because genocide and murder isn't actually wrong, you just dont want to be the victim of it? niggers who kill whites in south africa aren't actually immoral, they are just stronger so they are moral. so in principle you dont have any problems with niggers killing your family because you are white?

its okay for whites to kill beings for fun because whites are stronger? so that makes it okay for anyone who is stronger to kill and torture others for their amusement? so its okay for niggers and non-whites to rape and kill whites because they are stronger?

if you're okay with hurting others but are not okay with people hurting you, dont you think its hypocritical of you? dont you think theres a differences in the standards you hold for yourself and the standards you hold for other people?

can you tell me what the definition of hypocrisy is?


 No.309210

>>309206

>how do you discern who is your race or not

If they look similar to me for starters, deeper inspection if I feel like it.

>>309206

>so in principle you dont think what niggers are doing to whites is wrong, because genocide and murder isn't actually wrong, you just dont want to be the victim of it? niggers who kill whites in south africa aren't actually immoral, they are just stronger so they are moral. so in principle you dont have any problems with niggers killing your family because you are white?

Are you this retarded all the time? My family is my family, if they kill my family I'll turn myself into a personal weapon of vengeance. Stop pretending everyone is equal, they're not. You are not my family. That nigger down the street is not my family. The animals you keep posting are not my family. Other whites are closer to being my family than some mutts. This global equality you're using to enforce your arguments is not something I'm going to pretend is legitimate.

>its okay for whites to kill beings for fun because whites are stronger? so that makes it okay for anyone who is stronger to kill and torture others for their amusement? so its okay for niggers and non-whites to rape and kill whites because they are stronger?

Of course on all counts. The strongest will always win, because this world is one of limited resources and Nature doesn't like wasting limited resources on failures. You've seen a cat play with a mouse? Now watch the mouse devour insects. Watch the insect devour whatever that specific insect devours. Dumb, fat, slow mouse dies, smart, fast, agile mouse lives to repopulate.

>>309206

>can you tell me what the definition of hypocrisy is?

Yeah, it's you for thinking you can chop your testicles off and preach ethics.


 No.309213

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Keep on preaching, veganon. Anyone weak and stupid enough to buy into your orthorexia doesn't deserve to eat meat.


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>>309213

>orthorexia

3 months before and 3 months after i got castrated i actually ate so much fucking junkfood its insane. LITERALLY stuff like vegan chocolate wafers, instant veggie flavored noodles, walmart oreos and other vegan junk food. it was literally all i ate. before i got castrated i was like 185 pounds according to the hospital report, and 3 months after i was like 220 pounds, with basically no change in diet. i just ballooned up in weight

right now im 194 pounds ish, just slowly slowly slowly losing weight. im trying various diets, like a frutarian diet, a WHPB diet, whatever vegan diet i enjoy trying, but i cut out all junk foods and processed foods because i have a much lower metabolism. when i ate meat i also tried a lot of different diets like the keto or paleo diets, but i could never get into ketosis as my sugar cravings were absurdly high. pic related of random food i cooked. right now im trying a raw frutarian diet in hopes of weight loss, because in my particular case i literally have zero fucking testosterone, but i just started it like 3 days ago. im sure if i ever lose a lot of weight and be super skinny ill say shit like "see see see wow a vegan diet is so amazing for me wooooowww~" but the truth is im still fat and i didnt go vegan for weight loss

i didnt go vegan for the health benefits, i was always super skeptical of those, i went vegan because the gnostics and the early christians were vegan. jesus was a fucking vegan, but in the counsil of nicea they sanitized books like the gospel of the ebionites, the gospel of the nazarenes and the gospel of the hebrews and created their own story where jesus ate meat and paul was also put into the bible, even though he doesnt belong there

also i went vegan because its pretty hypocritical to eat the tortured flesh of animals when you wouldn't be okay to do that yourself or you'd be against to that to dogs or humans, especially when you dont need to do that to survive

>Anyone weak and stupid

i think in general vegetarians and vegans are more intelligent on average and probably make more income and live in higher living conditions, but as for myself im a highschool dropout, a community college droup out, and a long time unemployed NEET who failed remedial english in community college 2 consecutive times before dropping out

in terms of weak, this is subjective and could be interpreted in many ways. physically weak? maybe vegetarians are less likely to be violent, but i do think that vegetarians on average are skinnier, which might imply they are in better shape. also vegetarians might be mentally stronger for following their ethics and not being delusional retards who hate dog abusers but eat pigs

also "out of sight, out of mind" is an expression for a reason. this is how your bacon was made, you financially support this every time you buy bacon

also

>doesn't deserve to eat meat

you can eat vegan meat alternatives that tastes the same as meat. infact a lot of seasoned meat eaters could not tell it was made from plants, beyond meat is very convincing, ive ate it myself at a burito joint last month, it was fucking tasty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6AeO7flGx8


 No.309217

>canadian jewish supremacist vegan communist who cut his balls off because the bible told him to

Has anybody ever been this much of a walking meme before?


 No.309218

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>His malnutrition caused brain damage to the point where cutting his balls off seemed like a good idea

King Retard, the testicleless vegan kike


 No.309219

Vegans are fags that use the excuse of saving animals to avoid steak and blow job day


 No.309220

>>309215

Jesus Christ ate meat. He was also a White Aryan, and will throw all the kikes, especially (You), into the lake of fire on his return.


 No.309221

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>>309200

>so the depressed virgins who statistically got bullied and abused in this board got what they deserved?

Yes.

>so the suffering of the weak and the losers is irrelevant because they are never going to become winners and successful?

YES.

>people it seems to me do seem to be interested in the lives of other people

In the sense that they're selfish ideologues, sure. Just as a charitable man might give money because he thinks it's right, but it is in of itself an inherently selfish act because it's predicated on that he thinks he's doing the right thing and not because of the act in of itself. The only truly honest man is a man who does what he does and doesn't like it or is apathetic but does it anyways, but that doesn't make that man a good man it just makes him wholly honest. The simple fact of the matter is that the idea of good being selfless and evil being selfish was propitiated because of many weak people who needed protection from those that know better or simply don't care.

>does the fact that they were bred to be tortured and killed justify these actions?

Yes. Resources were expended to create a resources to be expended, in the most simple of terms.

> if we bred niggers to work a hard life, be whiped and castrated, and be killed when they become useless, does that justify doing so?

Yes, literally, they're property. They have no freedom, no agency, no knowledge enough to otherwise support themselves. Just because they're feeling or have the wasted capacity for wisdom doesn't make them special, intelligent, or otherwise capable of forming an equilibrium with their environment. Hell, most people can't do that last one.

>would you like being a slave to people more powerful than you? you know, back then all kinds of races owned slaves; arabs, whites, jews, niggers, etc

It L I T E R A L L Y does not matter what I feel when power is so thoroughly taken from me. The same goes for anyone. If me and you are in a room and I have a gun while you don't, your opinions no longer matter. Your FEELINGS no longer matter, not that they truly ever did. This is the literally instinctual and only true form of morality that exists, and you literally retarded people cannot understand that. It's not a matter of feelings, it's a matter of pure fucking function.

>you think might is right?

Literally all that matters is numbers and how they correspond. Your literally delusional fantasies do not exist, and they cannot exist because they have no bases in reality.

>you fucking hypocrite

I stand for my principles, few that I have, and none of which have I contradicted. Yet, here you are, saying shit like this entire thing,

>"and thats the problem, they shouldn't be bred into existence in the first place. does the fact that they were bred to be tortured and killed justify these actions? if we bred niggers to work a hard life, be whiped and castrated, and be killed when they become useless, does that justify doing so? would you like being a slave to people more powerful than you? you know, back then all kinds of races owned slaves; arabs, whites, jews, niggers, etc"

,and then you dare, YOU DARE lie to my fucking face and say you don't care? I can stand amonst the dregs and call them on their shit while being one myself, and so I'm going to stand here and call you on your shit for being a goddamn liar. You're clearly invested in this, while meanwhile the only time I eat ANY animal product is when I eat soup out of a can every two or three so months if I'm feeling particularly froggy because I'm a lazy, HONEST no-life who can't be asked to leave the house. Still, you complain that Robots might get fat and as such shouldn't eat meat but then by that standard should be a zealot for truly any other number of things and movements. Paradoxically, of course, because no sooner than a "Robot" is fixed they are no longer a Robot, and many actual or otherwise would-be Robots would argue that's simply not how that works. You're either a Robot or you're not.

You are stuck in such a web of shit just from our short conversation. I would hate to read the rest of this thread and call you out on it. So peace, goodbye.


 No.309222

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>>309028

Holy fucking shit who gives a flying fuck? Why do you people give him this much fucking attention? Delete this stupid thread immediately mod, what are you doing? Ban the fucker over and over again until he submits.


 No.309228

>>309217

He was born in Israel and his parents fled from this desert shithole to an actual first world country, that makes it even funnier.


 No.309234

>>309215

>says he wants anons to be vegan for health reasons

>admits that he himself is fat, and veganism is only mildly helping him at best


 No.309245

I do find eunuchs autism interesting, it seems hes put a degree of thought and research into his opinion. Although i dont think it makes him completely right. The part where some bots bring up how many of these animals are too artificially selected to live in the wild (dairy cows for example cant give birth by themselves anymore, and are very suspectable to sickness, while the more "free range/wild" texas longhorn as no such problems and is more resistant to sicknesses. And angus cows are inbred just to keep up with demand), kinda reminds me of jews grooming normalcattle for their own needs. Stripping away any potential the average man could have and replacing it with goy consumerism and thought processes.

Although i doubt you can compare the potential of a human to a cow, I think its something worth discussing about, in regards to a treatment of these animals. In a way, letting human society, and the human mind, degrade into joo capitalism is probably what caused the poor treatment of farm animals, as it became more and more about the big numbers.

In regards to eating animals, i think its important to do health wise. If whats been said about meat and human development is true, than our bodies have probably developed to work at a better capacity (for lack of a better term) with meat than without. But then i think comes the question of whether or not we should try to ween humanity off of such "primitive" methods of growth. For example, take women. I believe it was mentioned before in a different thread how development of tools and early agriculture could have been motivated by men wanting a way to get more women, which then led to a fairly violent time, as 1 man could have a harem as big as 17 women, causing the other men to get disgruntled and envious. This eventually led to civilization and rules regarding modesty and female control. It could be said that the lust for women is an important part of motivating males to do things, but does that mean we should stop there and just be content with this ancient form of motivation? Or could we do better? Look at what this "lust mechanic" has done for society. Women are nothing more than conformist parasites, (for no one held them to any standard besides looking nice and caring for the home) who are more susceptible to degeneracy and shallow thinking due to their more simple, instinctual/emotional minds. Everyone has a natural bias towards these creatures, and such a bias can be (((manipulated))). I remember seeing caps from a book about the trends between each failing empire, and one of them was the weakening of society due to putting women in power was it not? Our society has proven that we have the capability to motivate ourselves through curiosity and principle, so why leave a glaring weakspot in the psyche of man? It hasnt done us any good in this modern, shallow cattle society, and although its would probably be impossible to remove the vaginal jew completely, shouldn't we try to minimize the impact through culture and education/hobbies and male camaraderie and what have you? To try and go beyond what nature has chained us down to?

Maybe the same could be said of meat? I dunno. Maybe if we had the technology to artificially grow meat, accurately enough to create different kinds of cuts, so we dont lose any culinary arts.


 No.309246

>>309103

>gets stressed out on the internet

>eats junk food (aka indulges in hedonism) to distract himself

>complains about others being hedonistic by not caring about animals and only caring about their taste pleasures

Hah

Regarding animal intelligence, i never liked how these ads/infographs never display objective values. Sure a pig can be the 4th intelligent animal, but how far away is he from the 3rd? What exactly is missing from his brain compared to humans/the others? Its as useful as saying "when comparing a human, a goldfish, and a lump of mould, the goldfish is the second most intelligent"


 No.309251

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ATTENTION YOU ARE RESPONDING TO THE TESTICLESS ONE PLEASE REFREAIN FROM GIVING HIM ATTENTION OR REPLIES, HE IS FUCKING INSANE AND A FUCKING IDIOT I REPEAT STOP RESPONDING TO THE MADMAN THAT REMOVED HIS OWN TESTICLES


 No.309274

File: 6c0f03d263a4c2b⋯.mp4 (4.47 MB, 368x640, 23:40, chinesefood.mp4)

File: 9a8ff3f9778189f⋯.mp4 (1 MB, 208x360, 26:45, chinesefood2.mp4)

File: e71e07df304d8a0⋯.jpg (84.94 KB, 634x473, 634:473, chinesefood3.jpg)

File: 6357bacfbd60bc0⋯.mp4 (424.45 KB, 204x360, 17:30, chinesefood4.mp4)

How do these webms make you feel eunuch?


 No.309275

File: 7f7bae1901e1b85⋯.mp4 (980.85 KB, 480x844, 120:211, chinesebear.mp4)

File: 6b9f37e0423ebcc⋯.mp4 (431.23 KB, 300x400, 3:4, chinesefood5.mp4)

File: 259b1e214d17296⋯.mp4 (2.2 MB, 206x360, 103:180, chinesefood6.mp4)

File: e395be8f877793b⋯.mp4 (1.75 MB, 852x480, 71:40, chinesekillsdog.mp4)

More for the enjoyment of our favorite eunuch


 No.309276

File: 2808817808125e5⋯.mp4 (4.05 MB, 720x1280, 9:16, chinesedog2.mp4)

File: 967c695e570305a⋯.mp4 (5.04 MB, 1024x576, 16:9, chinesedog3.mp4)

File: 5e5ecdb123ade3a⋯.mp4 (3.96 MB, 544x480, 17:15, chinesedogmarket.mp4)

File: 7786729e1d024fa⋯.webm (2.59 MB, 206x368, 103:184, chinesefetuses.webm)

Ball-less gwailo go home


 No.309279

File: f642e359063b79e⋯.jpg (36.92 KB, 500x375, 4:3, King of Cups.jpg)

>>309274

>>309275

>>309276

He cares about animals as much as he cared about his balls.

He's just virtue signaling (something a man with balls and non-low testosterone would never do) to have the upper moral ground in his head over the people who were always disproving his false statements that he have been making ever since he started a suggestion thread about mutilating himself and then did it despite being proven that it would be a bad idea on every possible level.

Nice vids, though.


 No.309282

File: 36b0dcd7f34e959⋯.mp4 (989.23 KB, 224x400, 14:25, chinesecentipede.mp4)

Forgot about this one. I wonder what happened with the centipede after being submerged in alcohol.


 No.309289

>>309282

That's hot oil, not alcohol.


 No.309295

Funny he tried the same thing on Wizchan and got told to fuck off https://wizchan.org/lounge/res/212814.html


 No.309299

File: 46896426919b614⋯.mp4 (10.14 MB, 640x360, 16:9, dairy farm to fridge.mp4)

File: e9695e94726c1d6⋯.jpg (38.91 KB, 650x650, 1:1, 57d3d703bdb1295813ca9c53f6….jpg)

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File: f69339ad2960698⋯.png (1.04 MB, 1154x648, 577:324, pig eye tumor.png)

>>309274

>>309275

>>309276

i actually appreciate you posting such videos, i watched all of them. i found them a bit disgusting but nothing too unbearable, but i do think that they're important because they showcase to western people how disgusting eating some animals are

like im sure that theres dog lovers who watch videos of dogs being killed, boiled alive and stomped on and have a negative emotional reaction, but turn around and have no problems with killing and eating the flesh of pigs, which are a more intelligent animal than a dog

infact our behavior with pigs and cows are seen as disgusting and abhorrent in some cultures as we see these chinks as disgusting and abhorrent, so its nice point out how we as a culture are identical to these chinks who kill and eat dogs and rats

>>309245

>Maybe if we had the technology to artificially grow meat

you should really try beyond meat burgers. in my experience it tasted the same as ground beef, i took this picture about a month ago, i only ate there because it was the only place i could find that had beyond meat products. it tastes THE SAME

in terms of health, im honestly super skeptical of either side. in fact im skeptical of any diet, because theres so much conflicting noise. there are TONS of studies showing the benefits of veganism, and on the other hand there are TONS of studies showing the benefits of eating meat and how veganism is bad for you. theres so much conflicting data and information when it comes to your health i'd be lying if i told you that you can trust anyone

but you should try it and see if it works for you. in my case i dont care for the health benefits, but i do think i did experience a lot of them, but this is just my subjective experience

>bit about milk and veal

yes, this is why vegetarianism is so unethical. because the milk industry is supported by the veal industry, which is dead baby calfs. cows cant produce milk without being raped and forced to watch their children being taken away from them and killed, this is regular proceedure, thats why milk drinking vegetarians are also unethical by eating animal products, even though arguably this is better than eating the flesh of an animal

literally farmers need the income from both veal and milk to sustain a profitable farm. without milk sales some of them wouldn't be able to keep afloat, supply and demand


 No.309300

File: 44b7f8216e28317⋯.png (165.64 KB, 1164x777, 388:259, politics.png)

File: 4524851f4e67065⋯.jpg (1.27 MB, 3264x2448, 4:3, IMG_1148.JPG)

File: 81dcd733f691f8e⋯.mp4 (4.98 MB, 640x360, 16:9, beef farm to fridge.mp4)

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yeah guys sorry if im not responding perfectly, im not some super turbo normie who can get a lot of stuff done in a short period of time. today the whole day i was super stressed out and nervously on edge because im trying a different vegan diet and my body was literally shaking for green peas and corn. for me, green peas and corn is literally the most addictive food in the world, its probably my favorite food, but im trying to start on a frutarian diet, so my body breaks down in nervous sweat craving peas and corn, pic related me binging on like 5 cans of peas and corn after trying to avoid these foods, space jesus forgive me

i think im going to start randomly posting youtube links to vegan content on youtube so people can watch it and potentially be influenced by it. i consume a ton of vegan content, vegan debates, etc etc. maybe it will be able to influence dudes here in a way that i wont, as im sure my influence is mostly as a joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_uBux5Xrs

>>309295

NO STOP EXPOSING ME AND CALLING ME OUT FOR BEING A JEW! NOOOOOOOOO *evaporates into the air in a fit of rage and blight light*

>>309279

>then did it despite being proven that it would be a bad idea on every possible level

still dont regret my decision. maybe it would of been better to get a doctor to do it, but it was more meme worthy for me to have done it myself

>>309246

wow sorry for being a fallible human being. but the food that i binge on doesnt entail the murder and torture and rape of enslaved animals

>>309221

id make a longer response maybe later and i did read this entire post multiple times, but im not in the mindstate to coherently respond to every single point, but ill try a bit

>YOU DARE lie

from my best understanding, i have no lied in this thread. now its absolutely possible that i told you wrong information, but i have not deliberately told you information i believed to be the truth. its perfectly possible for example that my understanding of myself isn't as rock solid as i'd like to believe

in the same way for example soldiers during recruitment think that they are raging psychopaths who can go around and shoot sand niggers all day and sleep like a baby only to turn around stressed out and suffering from PTSD, in that same way i feel like i simply dont know myself perfectly enough, but im not lying to you

also you made some point about all of our actions being selfish and self-oriented, and i think i'd agree. the only reason why i decided being a hypocrite is bad is because i strongly believe in god, and if you believe in god hypocrisy is ALWAYS bad in any circumstance by definition. and so i decided being a hypocrite was bad simply out of fear of god, im being dead serious btw. i think belief in the existence of god is very rational, but i dont believe that believing any religion is 100% rational, i do think you have to believe religions like christianity on faith, but im a delusional retard who believes these religions anyways. but christianity is irrelevant to from the existence of god and from stopping being a hypocrite

btw if i didnt believe in god i'd just laugh at threads like this because i remember i used to simply not give a fuck, and in a lot of ways i still dont, pic related, most virgins dont care for politics or any of this social justice shit problems like veganism or whatever. id use better pics but holy fuck am i not diving in a book for 20 minutes just to get some good relevant references right now


 No.309301

File: 2c4b9bb36d91023⋯.jpeg (367.59 KB, 900x582, 150:97, 4_fashion-bloggers-Sweats….jpeg)

File: f38354f4ac11eaa⋯.jpg (124.7 KB, 963x542, 963:542, conflict_minerals_gun_flip….jpg)

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>>309028

We wear clothing made in sweatshops.

We use computers, tablets and cellphones made from conflict minerals mined from fourth-world countries and assembled by people overworked into suicide.

The electricity we need to power them pollutes the skies and poisons the earth.

Our fruits, grains and vegetables (needed for a vegan lifestyle) are genetic abominations harvested by exploited and underpaid migrants.

And finally, the cats we have as pets (who unlike us are obligate carnivores) are responsible for billions of bird deaths per year.

Going vegan would be the true and ultimate hypocrisy.


 No.309304

>>309276

>Not naming the first one "Chinese crossfit"


 No.309306

>>309279

God knows what the shrinks put him on, probably injectable antipsychotics or something, add that to the complete lack of endocrines in his system. The fag's a vegetable.


 No.309312

>>309306

>endocrines

I meant androgens, of course.


 No.309315

What if this is all just an elaborate ruse by the kikeeunuch I ask myself sometimes. But then I remember that he literally cut off his own balls and that he actually is the moron that he lets us percive he is


 No.309316

>>309315

Scary, isn't it? How deep the jewish mind can fall.


 No.309318

>>309049

I like your rhetorical style.


 No.309324

File: 530fe9a21c6fcab⋯.gif (1.25 MB, 500x260, 25:13, 349aec9c120cdaa7abc0ae0c7e….gif)

This is an interesting thread. I can believe that there are vegan or vegetarian robots.

I'm not vegan but I'm vegetarian. I'll never advocate people do either diet. Its inconvenient, you need to work extra hard to get protein and you are deliberately making yourself weaker than you potentially can be. No amount of broccoli will give you the fuel and nutrients you can get from lean meat.

>no meat better for the environment

Probably. But so is no technology. I like my car and smart phone

>ethics for animal life / suffering

I used to get caught up in this mentality. All this does is make you hyper compassionate and considerate for all life forms, including humans. Humans are the most selfish, predatory animals in existence. This vegan philosophy simply makes you food to the normal cattle.

Make no mistake about it, in the wild animals tear each other apart and eat the other while still alive. Factory farming deaths are kinder than wild animal deaths.

It may seem harsh, but you need to be selfish and callous to survive in a selfish, callous world.

I haven't read all of the thread, but as a vegetarian faggot passing by I wanted to comment.


 No.309349

>Animal kingdom brutalizes humanity for countless millennia

>Humanity cowers in fear for thousands of years

>Carnivorous animals devour men, women, and children without hesitation

>Herbivore animals devour the efforts and labors of agrarian societies without a second thought.

>Humans forced to bury their dead deep underground to keep animals from devouring the flesh of their deceased friends and loved ones.

>Humanity finally gains the upper hand via technological advancement.

>Shoe is now on the other foot.

<OMG don't eat animals you big meenie!!!1!!!!

No wonder meat is so delicious. It's the physical manifestation of a robot's righteous rampage against Chads and Roasties.

So order that meat supreme pizza, crank up "pumped up kicks", and enjoy the moment.


 No.309350

>>309300

Your life sounds awful. I'm going to go eat a delicious hamburger now, enjoy your physical withdrawal from not eating corn. Me? I feel great. I'm strong, healthy, and don't become a mess if I eat something different. Being an omnivore and primarily eating what my body evolved specifically to digest just does wonders, you know?

Here's an idea, Instead of your retarded black or white autism, maybe suggest people eat less meat, because most people eat way too much and not enough fruits and vegetables.

That is unless eating nothing but apples hasn't made you too weak to type.


 No.309543

File: 84d70089be68276⋯.mp4 (1.89 MB, 640x360, 16:9, baby cow curbstomp.mp4)

File: 1f09eb51815f86f⋯.jpg (87.39 KB, 720x720, 1:1, McJ2xYL.jpg)

File: a4f9c1ba01cb9b9⋯.jpg (42.72 KB, 500x349, 500:349, Leonardo-image.jpg)

im sorry for being rude but how childish do i have to treat people in order for it to be reasonable? to what degree of patience do i have to have for it to be reasonable with people? im sure statistically some people are so immature that regardless of whether they agree with you or not they will eat meat in spite of you, and im sorry. is it wrong for me to mock any arguments every in any situation? am i not allowed to use comedy at all become some childish person will get so offended that they will eat meat just to spite me?

the purpose of this thread was to give you objectively right information about the world and to better inform you of what is the truth. i cant force you to do anything you dont want to, but i can reveal to you what is true and what is not true. "out of sight out of mind" is a saying, when you are aware of the cruelty of animal products you are more likely to change your behavior

to what extent are you going to allow other people making fun of you in order to influence your behavior? because some people are literally so emotionally driven that it has a very large influence in their lives

like in here and in wizchan i try to be respectful and take you all seriously because i like this place more, but in 4chan im much more disrespectful and i mock people and smugly shitpost and the like, partially because theres a lot more normies there and i hate normies, so i justify this bad behavior on the basis that they are normies. but i dont think that actually justifies it

theres a certain subset of people who operate on emotions rather than logic. amazing atheist is so petty and childish that he goes out of his way to put extra meat just in spite of vegans. there are people LITERALLY so petty and childish that they hate you for hurting their emotions to such an extent they will support the things you stand against, even if they think its immoral

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzG6E1Y-s3A

to anyone that ive offended, please forgive me, im sorry. ill make it up to you guys somehow, okay please dont hate me. this message was only directed at people whom ive directly insulted and mocked in the past, which i may or may not have a history of, and who got so offended they now do stuff im against as a direct result of my shitposting

btw i literally copy and pasted this thread on 4ch right before i went to sleep, i woke up and it had 300 posts and i posted in it like a total of 10 times and it hit the bump limit. heres the link if you care for it. people seem to care about this issue, and even if you never go vegan, im glad you're atleast aware of it. simply knowing these atrocities are happening increases the chances that people change their behavior

https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/52121203/

tbh i didnt actually see all of dominion, even tho im a vegan. probably tomorrow ill watch the whole thing and find all the juicy bits to make clips out of to share, i only seen parts of it


 No.309544

>>309543

>ill make it up to you guys somehow

I know, I know. Post the video of your castration.


 No.309546

>>309543

Some spiders inject their prey with a venom which slowly causes their body to decompose into a form of liquified nutrients, over the course of weeks, which is then consumed by the spider's young which were previously implanted in the prey. These young eat the prey alive, or atleast, what's left of it since it's a liquified half-living Made in Abyss-tier creature. This is infinitely more cruel and painful than the way meat is raised by mankind in the west today; at the very least it isn't any better.

Should those spiders conform to your ideology of veganism? If not, why should mankind, who is part of the animal kingdom just as much as the spider, be held to a harsher standard?

I have nothing against vegetarians or vegans, and the cruel treatment of animals is unjust in the sense man usually decries 'just' and 'unjust'. Certainly, they should be treated better, and were treated better in sane societies such as the Third Reich. Nonetheless, when there are examples in nature of far crueler treatment, and since man is himself part of nature and not exempt from it, is not you condemning man while withholding condemnation from the spider hypocrisy?

>inb4 someone bitches at me for wasting my time arguing with a kike


 No.309549

File: f6bd8a7246fe357⋯.webm (682.95 KB, 720x576, 5:4, tard bathroom.webm)

>>309546

listen, if a fucking retard crawled under the toilet stall and starting asserting his dominance over you while you were shitting on the toilet, i wouldn't hold this retard morally accountable for his actions, because he is a fucking retard who is not capable of making moral choices. the spiders are in a similar way, they dont have a brain that is sufficiently advanced to contemplate morality, they are just obligate carnivours who feed of other insects, its unreasonable to hold them to the same standards of morality that we hold humans

https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/animals-eat-animals


 No.309550

>>309036

This is the most normie post I've ever read in my life.


 No.309551

File: dc8fe7cf094eda1⋯.jpg (10.74 KB, 327x431, 327:431, V.jpg)

>>309549

This is why I believe that once we let go of these stupid notions of greed and control, we can have unironic anarchy and rule ourselves completely. The land of do-as-you-please. Unfortunately because of the way that people feel the need for government the only way this could be acheived would be a worldwide riot against all government faggots. My point is that to hold anyone else to your own moral standard is fucking gay and retarded, the actions of others shouldn't matter to you unless they are doing something to you or someone you love, and you've already said you don't care about the environment (where animals live) you fucking hypocrite. What do you want us to do, put all animals into concentration camps that are worse than McDick's farms once we run out of foress and feilds? Faggot. What a fucking dumb monkey nigger.


 No.309555

>>309549

But why is it immoral in the first place for man to eat meat? Man is himself an animal and part of nature. A man eating meat is no different than a lion eating meat.

>that link

It doesn't disprove what I just said at all. It tries to imply that because man is capable of reason, that he therefore ceases to be a part of nature himself.


 No.309556

>>309028

What an amazing specimen. Guys, not all the time will you be able to interact with such an odd fellow. Mod is doing a good job of keeping this thread alive for our amusement.


 No.309567

File: d58d3fd76c941dc⋯.jpg (61.56 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 14736259_1804695299808544_….jpg)

They are weak and gay because they don't eat meat.


 No.309570

File: 9c59f9fa31f6373⋯.jpg (152.59 KB, 495x495, 1:1, fougpso.jpg)

>>309028

listen op get off this site. this thread proves that, if a lot of the "robots" on this site would be in to position and power of normies they would be some of the worst of the worst.

their lack of empathy and severe tribalistic mentality proves it


 No.309571

>>309570

I don't make the rules, I just eat the meat.


 No.309576

File: 1dae43cc9467beb⋯.png (66.91 KB, 352x264, 4:3, 1dae43cc9467bebb741d1ea512….png)

>>309028

>please logically defend eating meat

>proceeds to base entire argument around an inference


 No.309578

>>309570

You should have already known that from this poster here >>309187

>Almost literally everyone here deserved what they got, and or are someone whose suffering is irrelevant as they'd never of amounted to anything anyways.

Many robots are weak like myself (although I don't consider myself robotic, I know I have no power or say in anything outside of my given duties) so the actually competent/integrated members of society take advantage of that weakness whether either side knows it or not. Everything is hierarchy, and your job is to get beaten into your hierarchical place and then stick to it so that you're a useful cog in corporate america. You probably hate it but it's the superior strategy to rule unchallenged; the stupid underclasses are beaten and mistreated to become cruel killers, while thrown nice treats every so often so they don't entirely despise their overlords, and then the trumpets for war are sounded and the beaten dogs are let loose to rip and tear. Be happy you're born a ruler, and if you're one of the beaten faggots be happy you'll get to slaughter when the horns of war sound with great prejudice and your built up malice. Either way your cloudy skies have silver linings.

The alternative is being one of the underclass and striking through the veil at your ruling kings, but such is a flash in the pan and very rare indeed, with the effects even more rarely lasting, but, at least you're finally free from the system you despised in death.


 No.309585

>>309570

>implying there's literally anything wrong with tribalism

Cosmopolitan faggots >>>/out/


 No.309590

>>309104

>things should never be questioned

i'd rather be labeled a fucking kike than just accepting anything anyone tells me, including you faggots


 No.309606

File: ca8bb2ec72c0381⋯.mp4 (3.34 MB, 640x360, 16:9, end farm to fridge.mp4)

File: 44b26f60d106778⋯.mp4 (1.18 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Francis Reviews the McWhop….mp4)

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>>>309551

>> My point is that to hold anyone else to your own moral standard is fucking gay and retarded

>im telling you to follow your own moral standards that you want for yourself. for example, if you dont want to be killed or be a victim of theft, or lied to, dont go doing it to other people

>"do unto others as your would like have dont unto you" or something. this is basically saying dont be a hypocrite

>>What do you want us to do, put all animals into concentration camps that are worse than McDick's farms once we run out of foress and feilds?

>i want you to stop breeding them into existence, forcing them to endure a hellish life that is far worse than anything you've experienced in life and then killing them for your tastebuds. no need to call me names

>>But why is it immoral in the first place for man to eat meat?

>if you're fine with stronger people killing you and your family and eating you, then i guess you can eat all the meat you want. if you wouldn't fight back or protest, and are genuinely okay with being endlessly mistreated, being tortured and the like, then its not hypocritical of you to eat meat. but if you have a problem with being mistreated, then its hypocritical to treat others in ways that you wouldn't want to be treated yourself

>>A man eating meat is no different than a lion eating meat

>wild animals also rape one another all the time, and also commit murder. are you saying we should allow rape and murder in our societies and into our lives because animals do it?

>>>309570

>how do you discern who is a real robot and who isn't? you know robots are human beings too, and in 8ch culture theres a lot of radical thinking like all XYZ people are bad and should be killed, etc etc. virgins aren't immune to being hypocrites. im just trying to point that out. also statistically the white virgins in brian gilmartin's book were against bullying and abuse of the weak, but this trait was missing in the non-virgin chads

>>309301

>Going vegan would be the true and ultimate hypocrisy.

yes, because trying to reduce the amount of suffering and torture and murder in the world is hypocritical? do you even understand what the definition of the word "hypocrisy" is? can you give me some examples of what is and what isn't hypocrisy?

all of the things you listed dont entail enslavement and torture and murder. exploited is arguable, those people willingly work. if u cared for the environment you'd go vegan, but i personally dont care for the environment. having pet cats is immoral because you HAVE to feed them meat. but dogs you can feed on a vegan diet and have it be okay

veganism is just a philosophy that is trying to reduce the amount of needless suffering and torture and murder and enslavement. all the things you stated dont justify doing immoral actions. does the fact that some chink killed herself in china justify me going around and raping and killing humans? if it doesn't, why does it justify me going around and raping and killing pigs and cows?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6fYyxs_lDE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbJbGfnHtgo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5lH4l9Ii04

heres nikola again because why not


 No.309608

>>309606

Man is an animal. He is part of nature, not exempt from its' eternal laws. Eating meat is part of how man is designed. By claiming man shouldn't eat meat, you're claiming man is somehow set apart from nature.

>b-but rape and stuff!

In the same way that building a dam is natural for a beaver but not for a tiger, certain things in nature are still unnatural for man to do even if other animals do them. Your argument has no weight.


 No.309615

>>309028

Lol fgt


 No.309643

>>309028

there are no logical arguments for eating meat. So you'll only get brainlets getting mad and hurling insults at you. These threads are pointless


 No.309644

>>309643

I, and several others, have provided perfectly logical rebuttals to the notion that we shouldn't eat meat. Apparently you didn't even bother to read the thread before coming to your false conclusion .

Also

>waaah don't insult me

Nigger monkey.


 No.309658

File: 756499a0b26647e⋯.jpg (526.28 KB, 866x1550, 433:775, 1kojf01ij209jsj.jpg)

I'm vegan, death to all meat-eaters.


 No.309667

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File: 5b300d149210722⋯.mp4 (4.49 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Slaughterhouse. What the m….mp4)

>>309643

>These threads are pointless

i disagree. one of the reasons why i went vegan was because back in 2016 some dude kept making vegan threads in 4ch r9k and kept posting slaughterhouse footage and vegan content, and this influenced me going vegan. if people arent aware of the problem, they aren't going to change. even if out of 10,000 people who've read every single post in this thread, only 1 person goes vegan, its still a very successful thread. in my case i voluntarily avoided the subject because i knew the vegans were right and i knew that if i kept learning about veganism i'd have no choice but to go vegan, but eventually it was so unavoidable that i just switched

for me, what caused me to go vegan was /s4s/ memes. i browse a board on 4ch called /s4s/ and they are vegan and have vegan memes, and that unironically was one of the main influeces for me to go vegan, dead serious. i just love /s4s/ and their memes and i wanted to fit in with them, i never went vegan for the animals. only later did i start caring for the ethical argument simply because it was convenient for me, and because i also believed in the existence of god. and god's existence was another strong reason for me to go vegan

patience and spreading the truth and the objective facts about factory farming are the most effective ways to change people's minds about eating meat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VbTT5GUqBk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se2tTKvdtFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ssj0AYumQY

>certain things in nature are still unnatural for man to do even if other animals do them

how do you discern what is okay for man to do but okay for animals to do? it seems to random and arbitrary. seems unbelievably hypocritical for you to be okay with murder and torture for your culinary amusement for other sentient beings, but cry all day if someone so much as pushes you


 No.309669

>>309667

First, murder and killing aren't the same thing. They're different words with different nuanced meanings.

It's not, by definition, murder, to kill an animal for food. It's just killing.

Next, it's not for culinary amusement, it's for survival. Man is designed to be omnivorous, and to try to slither out of this fact of nature it itself hypocritical.

Lastly, you discern what's natural and unnatural for man mainly by what his body is innately intended for. If man is inherently omnivorous, then it's natural for him to eat meat.


 No.309672

File: 290c36043840297⋯.png (2.14 MB, 1501x1335, 1501:1335, ClipboardImage.png)

>>309669

>still trying to talk sense into a kike who cut off his balls


 No.309676

File: 461e33e169c78c9⋯.png (31.63 KB, 634x842, 317:421, murder killing.png)

File: ee3ab1b0edb2dd8⋯.mp4 (4.57 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Slaughterhouse. What the m….mp4)

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>>309669

>They're different words with different nuanced meanings.

wow, damn, you're right. i guess you won the semantics debate, lol

>it's not for culinary amusement, it's for survival

but you dont NEED to eat animals to survive. please give me the medical literature that tells you that you NEED to kill animals to survive. if you need animal products to survive, why is it vegans can survive without animal products?

heres some major food bodies agreeing that a vegan diet is nutritionally adequate for all stages in life. btw breast milk from a human breast is vegan because its devoid of animal exploitation

https://www.livekindly.co/myth-buster-vegan-diets-are-unhealthy/

https://www.livekindly.co/vegan-diet-american-diabetes-association/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27886704

>Man is designed to be omnivorous, and to try to slither out of this fact of nature it itself hypocritical

thats like saying man is designed to be a murderer and a rapist, and not to be one is hypocritical. i dont think you understand what the definition of hypocrite is. you wouldn't accept someone physically assaulting you and appealing to nature as a justification for the violence, yet you appeal to nature when its convenient for you

>body is innately intended for

this is so subjective. humans have been killing and raping one another for thousands of years, theres an argument that we have rape and murder have made a significant influence in our evolution and our genetics. but does this justify rape and murder?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YWAXk53ndI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byTxzzztRBU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6U00LMmC4


 No.309678

>>309676

It's not just semantics. Even the dictionary page you screenshotted proves you wrong; murder is defined by that page was the killing of a human. The word 'murder' precludes other animals, and only applies to other humans. Killing an animal isn't murder, by definition.

And there's nothing wrong with killing someone if he's done something wrong or tried to harm you, so I don't get why you insist on trying to say that killing people is always wrong either.

It's this simple: man is part of nature and as an omnivore, is designed to eat meat and plants. There's nothing wrong with eating meat as a man, anymore than it's wrong to eat meat as a lion. If you criticize tha man for eating meat without also criticizing the lion, you're a hypocrite.

Why don't you just fuck off back to cuckchan already? You admit you post there. Go back you stupid fucking kike. I can't wait until your entire race is exterminated.

Also, your statement that a vegan diet contains everything needed to be healthy is a blatant lie. Vitamin B12 only occurs naturally in animal foods and it's something man needs. The only way vegans can get it is from additives or supplements. Additionally, iron is most easily absorbed from animal foods. Due to the way iron is present in certain foods, vegans are forced to consume more of it in order to absord the same amount that omnivores get from meat. Legumes, raisins, etc, while having iron, still require more to be consumed than normal in order to absord the equivalent amount an omnivore would from meat.

Seriously, I'm done arguing with you. I don't know why I ever wasted my time with some kike who cut his own balls off. I hope you finally kill yourself and rid the world of your stupidity. One less kike around is always good.


 No.309683

File: 95b57d2d0797777⋯.mp4 (6.74 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Slaughterhouse. What the m….mp4)

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>>309678

>And there's nothing wrong with killing someone if he's done something wrong or tried to harm you, so I don't get why you insist on trying to say that killing people is always wrong either.

sure, but animals are innocent. they are bred into a hellish existence of slavery and torture. they arent trying to kill you like some lion in the jungle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InCHrWt3IRI

>lions tho

just an appeal to nature and a logical fallacy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_PNwkN2Kuw

>man is part of nature and as an omnivore, is designed to eat meat and plants. There's nothing wrong with eating meat as a man, anymore than it's wrong to eat meat as a lion.

lions are obligate carnivorous who cant eat anything else but meat to survive, unlike humans who can eat meat or plants. and we're not hunting to survive, were breeding these animals in captivity and genetically engineering them and fattening then up and killing them just for tastebuds. were not doing it for survival. buying meat at the supermarket is not a survival situation

>If you criticize tha man for eating meat without also criticizing the lion, you're a hypocrite

lions are OBLIGATE CARNIVOROUS. HUMANS ARE NOT. humans dont need to survive on animal flesh, lions do. and we dont do any hunting, we keep animals enslaved in hellish farms

>I can't wait until your entire race is exterminated.

dont you find it funny how whites cry all the time about DA EBIL JOOS =O but then turn arround and advocate for genocide of jews? like they paint themselves as these innocent pure angels then go around advocating for the hollocaust of jews and enjoy eating meat and mocking vegans. dont you think theres a little bit of irony there?

>Vitamin B12 only occurs naturally in animal foods

wrong b12 is made by bacteria. the reason why animals have it is because they're literally injected with b12. before water cleaning plants, we used to get out b12 from fresh water sources like lakes. animals dont make b12, bacteria does

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3j80WpjM0M

http://eerainuh.com/supplementation-of-vitamin-b12-in-cattle-and-sheep-to-prevent-deficiency/

i find it hard to believe that an adult virgin who statistically experienced bullying and abuse at the hands of normies would keep debating for the torture of sentient animals, but maybe you really are a virgin, i dont know


 No.309686

File: b40ec671c81ba72⋯.png (2.84 MB, 1500x1500, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

Do Cock-vored Rabbits Dream of Ball-less Sheep?


 No.309689

File: bb4223c4f556810⋯.jpg (109.97 KB, 960x540, 16:9, hitler was a vegan.jpg)

File: 4e925200eceb1e4⋯.jpg (81.3 KB, 559x445, 559:445, goebbels vegan.jpg)

>>309678

even your mr adolf hitler was an ethical vegetarian btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThXHGSbgsmM

all nazi's should be vegan


 No.309694

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>309028

Dont go vegan if you dont want to crap your pants in public guys. Stay safe anons! :3


 No.309701

>>309689

While Hitler was a vegetarian, he wasn't a vegan. He drank cow's milk regularly.


 No.309715

File: 5c58444bd9dbec0⋯.jpg (64.98 KB, 691x195, 691:195, origin of the word.jpg)

>>309701

hitler was an ethical vegan, he was against the exploitation of animals on the MORAL basis. nazi germany regularly made and enforced a lot of animal rights laws. they made hunting illegal and the murder of animals illegal and gave dogs moral status by law. im sure he would be against milk production on the same basis that he would be against killing animals for their flesh; ethics and morality

but the word vegan was first coined in 1944 by some english dude, and hitler literally died in 1945 and im sure knew little if any of this person, as im sure he was busy with WW2. the word didnt even take off until some time, and even today people who are technically vegan still call themselves vegetarians for a long time. a lot of vegans called themselves vegetarians for a long time, ive read books where it hasn't mentioned vegans once but mentioned vegetarians a million times, all on ethical basis. they are the same thing

https://www.dictionary.com/e/veganism/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism


 No.309717

>>309715

You're factually incorrect. Hitler continued drinking cow's milk after he became a vegetarian, and never stopped. Consuming dairy isn't vegan, and Hitler consumed dairy. Therefore he wasn't a vegan. It isn't hard to understand, kike.

Also

>kikepedia

Not a source or an argument.

Also

>they made hunting illegal

Wrong. Do you even bother researching things before blurting them out like a nigger?


 No.309720

File: d54fffcb1d32f35⋯.png (2.23 MB, 1500x1500, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

VVVVVVWOOOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHH


 No.309724

>>309667

>/s4s/

>Shit 4Chan Says

>Vegan

I will admit you had me for a while with your bait vegan shitposting


 No.309727

File: ceb22851a53a195⋯.png (2.39 MB, 1500x1499, 1500:1499, ClipboardImage.png)

>>309724

He's serious. It was cuckchan /lgbt/ that convinced him to castrate himself. Being convinced to become vegan by /s4s/ memes is small-time compared to that.


 No.309728

File: 7a60347944978c8⋯.png (583.05 KB, 729x1080, 27:40, sdfsfsd.png)

File: 54adba005fc336a⋯.png (32.39 KB, 781x737, 71:67, food n weight.png)

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>>309724

>>309727

im just telling you the truth. i wouldn't say it was the sole reason, but i'd be lying if i said they had no influence on me. it was more of a nudge in the direction of veganism from s4s. i'd be lying if i said i didnt let the memes guide me from time to time. the reason why i even became infamous on this board was because i followed my gut instinct to do meme shit


 No.309729

File: 982393cb7536b04⋯.jpg (750.34 KB, 1168x1088, 73:68, summer camp torture.jpg)

File: 0221c379df4a0e8⋯.jpg (792.41 KB, 1408x876, 352:219, religion and spirituality.jpg)

File: fea2cab6e9024b3⋯.png (486.66 KB, 1092x701, 1092:701, people need deviants.png)

>>309727

> It was cuckchan /lgbt/ that convinced him to castrate himself

this is not true. i never associated myself as a mtf tranny, nor have i ever seen myself as gay or a trap or anything of the sort. im a ugly balding dude who rarely showers and hasnt shaved in like 8~ months. i was convinced to become a eunuch because of the bible and matthew 19:12, and because it removes your libido, but thats not related to the op

the op is about veganism and why you should go vegan. ALL genuine robots should be vegan because it reduced needless animal torture. genuine robots dont enjoy torturing animals for their tastebuds

so much of brian gilmartin's book about male virgins is documenting the abuse they've experienced first hand by the hands of normies. for GENUINE VIRGINS to enjoy eating meat and advocate it would contradict their beliefs, especially since actual robots enjoy the company of dogs

pigs are more intelligent than dogs and can suffer just as deeply as humans. go fucking vegan you cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuunt

if normies dont want to go vegan when its whatver i dont even care. their entire life is sinful and revolves around hurting others and pretending to be good people publicly, etc etc. but when robots cry about their shit lives but turn around and hurt animals in a MUCH WORSE way than what they experience, it pisses me off maaannn

>abblooo ablooo waa waaa i cant get no pussy ='(((

>look look look, see chad and normies get tasty teenage cunny but i dont :'((((((

>waaa waaa waaaaa normies bullying me!!!! =O

>hueee hueee my parents want to kick me out ='(((((

>heh stupid fucking animals, we are the dominant species, and its natural, so fuck pigs and cows

go vegan, you hypocrisy CUNT. im going to sleep


 No.309730

File: e3088278201fbed⋯.png (45.97 KB, 512x289, 512:289, 1528744460.mattbas_doubt.png)

>>309729

You admitted to browsing cuckchan /lgbt/. Don't know why you're trying to deflect that information now, other than it being the nature of the kike to be deceitful. You even registered on a tranny forum.

https://archive.fo/pNsC2


 No.309731

Reminder to anyone reading that the bible verses he's trying to use to justify his castration isn't saying

>go castrate yourself

It's saying

>if, in the process of preaching/spreading Christianity, the heathens harm you in a disgraceful way, this won't be a mark against you or anything

According to Christ, the body is a temple of God, and you're to treat it accordingly. It's not meant for self-mutilation of any kind.

Also reminder that kikes are the spawn of demons and all of them go to the lake of fire.


 No.309734

>>309730

believe it or not i was just doing research on the topic. i scoured the internet far and wide, and i also did a lot of searching on /lgbt/ in 4ch as well. oddly enough i could relate to the transexuals there who also suffered from gender dysphoria. like, i read every single thread on castration they had there, etc etc, i used the archive extensively, but after i became a eunuch and stopped suffering from gender dysphoria i forgot about that place

damn, wtf?! stop stalking me! how do you even find this shit? i forgot about that place shortly after i had my testicles removed, because it wasn't a problem for me anymore. damn!

>>309731

shhhh

matthew 18:8, matthew 5:27-30, mark 9:43-47 i didnt even need to look up these verses because i memorized them. i HATE the christian board on this website, its the biggest rotting cesspool imaginable. its such a dirty cesspool its worse than facebook, its worse than reddit, its worse than youtube moderation, its LITERALLY the most overly moderated self-congratulating piece of shit board in existence. you cant even DISAGREE ON A THEOLOGICAL BASIS with them without getting banned. its honestly such a shithole, that i think furryXmlp crossover hentai is more sacred and holy than that shithole of a board. actually fuck back off back to that shit board

jesus christ was a vegan first and foremost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6J6jh1Dzo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6J6jh1Dzo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_vegetarianism

the ebionites were vegan, and thats what christ represented. fuck paul and fuck you


 No.309737

File: bb8d1b9bda50372⋯.png (110.37 KB, 589x554, 589:554, ClipboardImage.png)

>>309734

You admit you suffered from gender dysphoria.

You admit your surgery cured your gender dysphoria.

You are by definition of a tranny.


 No.309738

>>309734

Christ is documented to have eaten meat. Christ himself is God, and God was happy with animal sacrifice on many occasions. Paul was also a good, honest man who told the truth.

Cry more kike. I've read those verses, and they do not mean what you think they mean. It's understandable that you don't understand them though, since you are of your father the devil, and seek to do the works of your father, like all kikes.


 No.309750

>>309731

Well he sent his balls to hell already.


 No.309794

OP what do you think about castrating animals?


 No.309799

File: dd0a3dba462c1e0⋯.jpg (859.39 KB, 1904x1116, 476:279, testosterone depression.jpg)

File: 08dbf4ee1ede150⋯.jpg (397.49 KB, 1508x1044, 13:9, animal test levels.jpg)

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>>309794

great question! i feel like i have a lot of relevant things to share about this exact topic

animals like pigs are castrated at a very early age to make then eunuchs. the reason why farmers want eunuch pigs is because mammals, including humans, castrated before puberty grow noticeably larger than non-castrated animals. their bones and muscles are simply larger, despite having an approximate 5% amount of the testosterone of non-castrated animals

but having low testosterone is SO STRONGLY associated with depression and suicide and mental suffering. for example, i myself am a castrated eunuch with no testosterone, and shortly after i became a eunuch my depression skyrocketed to unbearable levels. LITERALLY i couldn't get out of bed for a week, i couldn't go to the gym, i couldn't eat anything but junk foods, it was so so unbearable. i had to take magic mushrooms repeatedly to cure it, maybe thats why magic mushrooms grow on cow turds? i dunno

but my depression was so severe that i never felt anything like it. before when i had my testicles i didnt give a fuck about anything. i enjoyed aggressive anti-social rape, like bone thugs and harmony, i masturbated 4 times a day to the bodies of teenage girls, i was constantly rude and i just didnt give a fuck about anything, i didnt suffer from any depression

to do this to animals just to fatten them up is so UNBELIEVABLY CRUEL. these disingenuous hypocritical meat eaters always like to claim that "free-range" animals had a "good life"

>muh fwee wange! muh happy pig! hehehe look at that pig he can walk around he's happy see see see he's not in a cage he gets to walk around in a fenced perimiter that means he's happy see see, im a good person hehe didnt think about that you stupid fucking vegan, hehe GOTTEM

pigs are mammals who are capable of sex and love. they are capable of falling in love and having deep relationships with eachother that last for YEARS, if not lifetimes, as alot of animals are. they are capable of intimacy, infatuation with the opposite sex, being horny and the parent-child bond. how can you tell me pigs are happy when they are castrated and forced to live their entire life as depressed virgin eunuchs in a cage or a fenced perimeter? how fucking hypocritical, delusional and patronizing do you have to be to say that lifelong virgin pigs live a happy life?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3zB_w2YzZQ

these pigs understand what humans are doing to their species, they understand that all of their family members will live in torture, all so you can put their flesh on a hotdog bun with some ketchup. how would you like it if some superior alien species castrated you from an early age and forced you to live inside a closed fenced perimeter with a whole bunch of other castrated virgin homos for a small fraction of your life, all for their tastebuds?

pig intelligence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-UE-wUpl6Q

pigs in the wild, demonstrating the ability to love, form bonds with their children, and live a life similar to feral dogs and other animals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2xH9wm-n2Q

short boar facts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzIrOi396pw

facts about pigs

http://factsanddetails.com/asian/Northern_Asian_and_European_Animals/sub2_8b/entry-4909.html

http://www.softschools.com/facts/animals/wild_boar_facts/314/

https://animalcorner.co.uk/animals/wild-boar/

to any genuine male virgin in this board, stop being a delusional hypocrite who tortures animals for his amusement and go vegan, THEN cry to me about how ur a depressed virgin who got bullied a lot. i too am a depressed virgin but i cant take anyone who tortures animals for his CULINARY AMUSEMENT seriously. all actual robots should go vegan


 No.309873

File: f81bc1d22b7f3e3⋯.jpg (74 KB, 367x500, 367:500, 1469831064920.jpg)

>>309606

>give me some examples of what is and what isn't hypocrisy?

Caring about the welfare of animals more than the welfare of your own species.

> having pet cats is immoral because

And here you ultimately lose me.

>veganism is just a philosophy that is trying to reduce the amount of needless suffering and torture and murder and enslavement.

Communists and socialists claim the same thing. Why don't you try preaching about that for a change and see how far you get here?

>heres nikola again because why not

We're not fucking "SCIENCE IZ TEH AWESUM" redditors here.


 No.309884

File: 3a83641a8dcd789⋯.png (1.8 MB, 1500x1138, 750:569, ClipboardImage.png)

ALL THINGS MUST GO


 No.309895

File: e921c68b5668b6e⋯.jpg (313.51 KB, 1439x1410, 1439:1410, DeepFryer_20190429_235131.jpg)

>>309799

Hol up soyboy, why do you ONLY care about mammals? I NEVER saw any veggie standing up for spiders or jellyfish, only widdle pigs and cows, but cockroaches? NOPE.

You just like them because they're cute.


 No.309914

File: 6b0541facf06aff⋯.png (57 KB, 968x638, 44:29, dolphins.png)

File: bb054409f9f9fad⋯.mp4 (7.92 MB, 640x360, 16:9, fish farm to fridge.mp4)

File: f1895acab0b8c88⋯.jpg (997.62 KB, 1364x1184, 341:296, alcohol and weed.jpg)

>>309895

>jellyfish

i am against eating all fish and actively encourage people to refrain from eating fish, as i think its unethical in the same way that killing and eating wild animals is unethical. you dont need their flesh to survive

dolphins for example are constantly ranked in the top 3 of all smartest animals, competing regularly with primates, pigs and crows. these dolphins are capable of lifelong relationships with one another, group hunting and forming hierchies in their groups,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFgwUWHnVv8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4WiyxXpyZc

heres a video of dolphins getting high in groups passing around a pufferfish. theres other documented cases of animals getting stoned and high

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIDJ-sTuoO8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXVfDgQr3K8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4E5I9qjPzc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM9sOP18wMw

even predatory animals like jaguars dig up ayahusca roots and get stoned on them. these animals have atleast some small ways with coping with depression and coping with the stress of wild life.

in the wild drugs are available if you know where to look. in industrial farms and "cage-free" "free-range" "ethical" "natural" natural? LOL meat eaters are so dishonest and delusional it hurts my brain fenced enclosed perimeter farms there no access to drugs and a coping mechanism for depression and mental pain, which surely must be present in farms because they're all castrated and know they're going to be killed.

even eating something as seemingly benign as sardines causes a ton of oceanlife death due to the nets used to catch such fish. all fish are sentient and have a brain and a nervous system, and are capable of suffering. just because they dont hold the same sentience level as a human does, doesn't mean they arent sentient

maybe oysters and clams can technically be vegan because they dont have a nervous system and a brain therefor they dont have an ability to suffer, but eating fish is not vegan

as for insects its unreasonable to care for their feelings and thoughts because they dont have a complex enough brain to have complex thought. i dont think its wrong maybe to kill flies around your house because they are invaders and a pest, but maybe if i saw a bug down the road i wouldn't bug it on the basis that its not harming me and it wants to live its life. "insects tho" does't throw away all morality out the window, its a separate issue

fuck these videos kinda make me want to drink alcohol. i havent drank alcohol since like january 2017 or something, i very rarely drink alcohol or smoke marijuana, even though marijuana is legal in canada i hate it because most of the time i get extreme anxiety regardless of which strain i smoke, but i did have positive experiences with it between the ages of 15 to 22~ btw statistically most genuine virgins are very shy people who hate getting intoxicated on any kinds of drugs, and unlike socially confident chads who enjoy alcohol consumption and recreational drug use, most shy adult male virgins enjoy being sober, i may have rambled on about drugs in this post a bit too much but atleast it was enjoyable to write, unlike responding to half the braindead posts i got in this thread


 No.309915

>>309914

Why does the fact that insects are less sentient than man and most other animals give you the right to deem then unworthy of life? Why is self-awareness the determining factor? Even if they're not intelligent, they're still living beings who feel pain.


 No.309917

File: 4f1ca36db501775⋯.png (2.02 MB, 1501x1500, 1501:1500, ClipboardImage.png)

>>309915

He believes all goyim are beneath him. Why would he give a fuck about insects? You're not going to convince him to abandon any of his retarded beliefs. You're only giving him an excuse to shit out another text wall.


 No.309920

File: 45654dc8a407d9f⋯.mp4 (8.27 MB, 240x180, 4:3, Gas chambers to kill pets ….mp4)

File: 9bd83816ca9d03d⋯.jpg (86.15 KB, 640x1401, 640:1401, gvq1u5q5ef421.jpg)

File: 244279b688922dd⋯.png (1.5 MB, 677x580, 677:580, 7ieq4egahsp11.png)

>>309873

>Caring about the welfare of animals more than the welfare of your own species

hypocrisy is defined as treating others in a way that you wouldn't want to be treated yourself, basically holding others to double standards and ignoring your standards of behaviors for others at your conveniences. so stuff like lying, stealing, cheating, are all hypocritical actions if you think they are wrong, but you do them anyways etc etc

i care to stop enslavement of humans, rape, murder and exploitation of humans too, BUT THERE ISN'T ANY. there isn't any human slavery besides maybe some niggers who traffic young white girls, but we have a lot of police for that. we have a massive part of society dedicated to protecting human rights, which i support

but there doesnt exist anything of the sort for animals, in the same way there didnt exist any legislative support for niggers back when they were slaves. niggers used to be LITERALLY considered sub-human by law, like they were considered to be less than human and therefor the laws dont apply to them, the same with women

>And here you ultimately lose me.

having pets IS slavery. we castrate them, we subjugate them to whatever ends we see fit. we guide their genetics to meet or arbitrary and fucked up needs. like companionship, loyalty, loving nature, for farm work, etc. some breeds are designed to be mentally retarded like pugs, because people think its cute. they dont care that they are breeding a sentient animal who suffers, castrating it at an early age, and leaving this social animal alone most of the time, they just want a cute fur baby they can say "awwwwww ur so cute =DD" to

we literally kill millions of dogs and cats every year because we arbitrarily decided that their numbers are too high. we mass castrate them because we dont like their natural territorial and sexual behavior. how is keeping these sentient animals as slaves ethical? how would you like to be born and live the life of an average dog?

TONS of people regularly abuse their dogs too, with no repercussions. people regularly kick them, scream at them, ignore them, etc. infact people constantly abandon them whenever its too inconvineint for them to care for the dogs. they cant abandon their babies because of societal pressure and laws, but people abandons dogs all the time like its nothing

https://www.aspca.org/animal-homelessness/shelter-intake-and-surrender/pet-statistics

https://www.dosomething.org/us/facts/11-facts-about-animal-homelessness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMR9scfrsx0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPB0llmyxcU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXmjIyXrU2Y

they are literally genetically weak slaves bred into existence for the sole purpose of amusing us with their company and rolling around when told to tricks. how is this not exploitation and not evil?

now i think dogs do a great job of bridging the gap between animals and humans, as most people love dogs. like its always so fucking funny to see these hypocritical braindead retard go "awwwww wook at the kute pupper, i'd never hurt you i looooove you~~ =D" and then laugh at pigs as they as killed by the millions every year for our tastebuds. people will chase down dog abusers from other countries to DEATH, but still eat pork. so fucking delusional

i dont care about politics i think its a joke, in the same that i think you are an intellectual joke

>>309915

im against insect exploitation and i believe we shouldn't exploit insects as well, because they do have a nervous system and a brain. thats why i dont eat honey anymore, you're right in that sense. but just because insects exist doesnt mean all morality gets thrown out the window. im sure you wouldn't accept something killing your whole family in front of you, curb stomping you repeatedly, then when you whisper "but why would you do this" they'd respond

>INSECTS THO, BREH. see see see look insects are alive and you kill them all the time, how do you discern which lives to have moral value for, and since im stronger than you i can do whatever i want SEE insects tho, EASY, GOOTTEEEMM

https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/plants-are-alive

>>309917

>text wall

the only thing you've been able to do in this thread is post disgusting low quality furry porn. atleast post interesting hentai with some comedy aspect or meme aspect to it or something. step up ur shitposting


 No.309922

File: a4c69b22bfb6e9f⋯.png (783.7 KB, 1177x1500, 1177:1500, ClipboardImage.png)

>>309920

>gvq1u5q5ef421.jpg

>7ieq4egahsp11.png

https://i.redd.it/gvq1u5q5ef421.jpg

https://i.redd.it/7ieq4egahsp11.png

Nice reddit memes, faggot.

>the only thing you've been able to do in this thread is post disgusting low quality furry porn. atleast post interesting hentai with some comedy aspect or meme aspect to it or something. step up ur shitposting

Posting things for you to enjoy would be the opposite of shitposting.


 No.309923

Why should anyone logically refute veganism, when veganism is built on an emotional premise? Saying "eating meat makes me feel good" is just as valid as saying "eating meat makes me feel bad".


 No.309925

File: a05ba8e6cbb0c3c⋯.jpg (133.83 KB, 650x1184, 325:592, slavery.jpg)

File: 9014d09a1635266⋯.jpg (1.68 MB, 3264x2448, 4:3, IMG_1153 (1).JPG)

File: 8d277e6ffb44879⋯.jpg (1.3 MB, 3264x2448, 4:3, IMG_1151 (1).JPG)

>>309923

>Why should anyone logically refute veganism

im sure a ton of people would love to do that, simply to shut vegans up. but i haven't heard of any. give me some youtube debates or videos refuting veganism, id adore to watch them. for some people one of the reasons why they even went vegan is simply because every single arguement they've ever heard was such a intellectual joke that they were intellectually coerced into being vegan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LKPgRix-A4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6U00LMmC4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1vW9iSpLLk

also you should avoid being a hypocrite because god exists, and most adult autistic male virgins believe in god and karma or the spiritual realm, as i outlined in this post >>309729


 No.309928

>>309925

>god exists

Yes, and he'll throw you and the rest of the kikes into the lake of fire the moment he returns.


 No.309929

File: 895f6e5149e9f8d⋯.png (634.17 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, 895f6e5149e9f8dd4ba3b5d537….png)

File: f279170d6abb65d⋯.png (593.25 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, f279170d6abb65de96d98823ba….png)

>>309928

>>>309928

>dont you find it a wee bit funny how all these nazi's cry about Da EBIL JOOS =O yet advocate for jewish genocide, and mock the genocide of intelligent animals like pigs?

>a lot of youtubers are like that too. so many people simply just mock and laugh at the pigs and cows they are financially supporting to be tortured, yet cry to everyone if anyone of the opposite race so much as pushes them or called them a EBIL WAYSIS WOWD ='OO

>>"bro bro bro listen, i care about humanity and i care about people and i support human rights and peace on earth, but fuck pigs hahaha stupid vegan ill eat more bacon just for you hahah"

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EguD1gwspo

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ktRwb4kO7k

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imrWCUyS0io

>>ABLOO BLOOO DA EBIL JOOS ARE BAD BECAUSE THEY INFLUENCE AND RUN DA WORLD ='((((

>>HUUUEEE WOOK AT DESE MURDER STATISTICS ITS DA EBIL JOOS =OO

>>WAAA WAAA WOOK AT DESE CWIME STATISTICS SEEE WHITES ARE INNOCENT ANGELS ='((( HUUUEEEEE

>>heh stupid animals are subhuman and bacon tho, cry harder vegans

>so much hypocrisy, you could swim in it

>i bet you are a catholic or orthodox christian? what do you think of the gnostics or jewish groups like the ebionites or the essenes; who wrote the dead sea scrolls?


 No.309930

>>309929

dang, i fucked up the formatting because it kept rejecting it for repeated image. remove one line of ">" in ur mind


 No.309931

>>309930

Ancient Israelites are not the ancestors of the kikes. Kikes are descended from a mixed-race bastardized amalgam of various tribes of the region who were conquered by the Israelites, but who then usurped the Kingdom of Judah just like their descendents subvert nations today.

The Essenes and Ebionites, like all of the ancient Israelites before the Maccabees decided to try to conquer and convert a bunch of shitskins int he region, were White Aryans.

You're just another shitskin arab who appears slightly whiter due to centuries of mixing with Aryans. Kill yourself.


 No.309932

File: c2f068ecf7c3a84⋯.png (2.32 MB, 1500x1500, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

>>309930

You also keep fucking up by putting sage in the name field. So you're the retard who bumps discord and tranny shill threads with sage in the name field. It all makes sense now.


 No.309933

File: e52bb6870a492b7⋯.png (587.72 KB, 1293x1407, 431:469, c44.png)

>>309931

WHO CARES where their geneology comes from, lol. even if everything you say is true, why do you hate jews so much, i dont understand. all of /pol/ are just a bunch of faggots worshipping jews and making memes of us. bro even if everything you say is true and even if jews really are the evil conspiratorial race that controls the world, how does that justify genocide them

and the essenes and ebionites were fucking VEGAN btw. if you take these people seriously in ANY degree in a theological sense, then you'd go vegan. god isn't going to send you to hell because you refused to murder animals. originally in the garden of eden everyone was a fucking vegan

and if you claim ur religion demands animal sacrifice, why dont you literally do that? do you regularly sacrifice animals in the alter like the scriptures say?

honestly being a jew is just one big meme. i ADORE perpetuating jewish stereotypes about myself. sometimes when im in a public place i just like to smile and rub my hands in a schemingly way. also i ALWAYS pick up coins i find on the ground, even in front of pretty girls or other people. every sheckle is important, GOYUM

the entire /pol/ board is an intellectual JOKE, especially the people who really hate jews but eat the flesh of other animals. they are the types of people who condone the massacre and genocides of gnostics in the middle ages. the gnostics and the cathars were vegan btw

>>309932

>You also keep fucking up by putting sage in the name field

lol i didnt even notice that….. sharp eyes you got

>So you're the retard who bumps discord and tranny shill threads with sage in the name field. It all makes sense now

i replied to a bad thread like that ONE TIME yesterday, i dont regularly do it. and i dont post disgusting furry porn. post lesbian teenage hentai or something decent, your porn is 0/10


 No.309934

File: 4b6d199e8648e32⋯.jpg (161.92 KB, 850x446, 425:223, graduallyibegantohatethem.jpg)

>>309933

>even if jews really are the evil conspiratorial race that controls the world, how does that justify genocide them


 No.309935

File: 5c8855442d40bfa⋯.jpg (185.72 KB, 978x728, 489:364, poor obonger crying from g….jpg)

File: c70c8ec4b49a0df⋯.jpg (169.88 KB, 968x816, 121:102, cyril-ramaphosa.jpg)

>>309934

all i read was

>"waaa waaa a jew lies to me and he was being DISHONEST BOO HOOO ='(((("

does this justify genocide? lol?

hitler was some bitter beta who got roasted in a debate by jews and couldn't get into artschool. stop idolizing mass murders and using their shit justifications. "but a jew lied to me tho" is not a justification for advocating genocide you brainlet retard

why not quote pics of mao or stain with a close up of their teary eye'd face as a justification for more genocide of white russians or of chinks? if i posted a picture of obama crying would you accept genocide a race of people on the basis of your idol's feelings?

>wook! wook wook! hitler's feelings were hurt by the da EBIL JOOS =OOOOO KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!

brilliant, really


 No.309936

File: 98344a43a4d9dfb⋯.png (3.07 MB, 1500x1262, 750:631, ClipboardImage.png)

>>309933

>i replied to a bad thread like that ONE TIME yesterday, i dont regularly do it.

You may not do it regularly but I've witnessed you do it many times since your debut thread.


 No.309942

To the faggot in this thread talking about reducing suffering in the world either convert to jainism, or commit suicide. Since veganism is only about reducing the amount of suffering you cause (and nothing more), killing yourself will completely eliminate you from producing suffering.

Although, it's foolish on that basis anyways. Cows, pigs, etc. will still be slaughtered and, at best, some will now be thrown out when not eaten. I guess you could say you're not complicit, and that's the only benefit you bring–a purely moral one with no actual worldy effect.


 No.310291

>>309028

buddy, factory farming isnt required. stop buying the cheapest shit on the shelf. you can buy free-range, grassfed meat. its way more expensive but if animal suffering bothers you, its the way to go.

go ahead and post more vids/pics of people/animals being exploited. they are all irrelevant to being vegan or eating meat.


 No.310293

>>309935

You argue like a typical jew. I have to wonder if jews are self cognitive enough to understand these concepts. You deserve genocide because you attempt to genocide the white race, not because you lie about doing so.


 No.310308

File: 0f3a2bc186c7afe⋯.jpg (25.01 KB, 300x369, 100:123, free range slave.jpg)

File: e6edd1603fb9d18⋯.jpg (82.8 KB, 800x450, 16:9, fwee wange slaughterhouse.jpg)

File: dcf54bab1e03d60⋯.jpg (54.11 KB, 550x550, 1:1, 4118.1762_5F00_10151632085….jpg)

>>310291

>they are all irrelevant to being vegan or eating meat.

but they arent irrelevant because you LITERALLY DIRECTLY financially support their torture and murder. thats like saying "buying slave free cotton doesn't do anything, go ahead and post more pictures of niggers getting their backs whipped, thats irrelevant to abolishing slavery or avoiding goods made by slaves". if you went vegan then they wouldn't be bred into existence their entire lives and be tortured and murdered

LITERALLY you are directly financially supporting people to torture and kill these animals for your tastebuds, with zero levels of removal. your meat explicitly necessitates the enslavement and killing of animals in its production

>muh fwee wange

its still murder, torture, enslavement, castration, rape and child kidnapping. these cows and pigs still get some dude's hands shoved up their vaginas to forcibly inseminate them, and their children are taken away from them and killed right in front of their eyes. just because free range animals live in better conditions than cage animals doesnt mean they live good or desirable lives, how disingenuous do you have to be to make such an argument

https://www.theonion.com/new-free-range-slaughterhouse-allows-livestock-to-roam-1819577574

dude even the onion is mocking you for being such fucking retards, i swear to god


 No.310310

File: 25f1d35ef552a9a⋯.png (505.83 KB, 960x498, 160:83, 25f1d35ef552a9a3aa3360ecd4….png)

File: e406dbdc75dd169⋯.jpg (421.33 KB, 1471x1087, 1471:1087, 1513808683835.jpg)

>>310293

>You deserve genocide because you attempt to genocide the white race

first of all, assuming the /pol/ conspiracies about jews are true, and the jews really are a evil scheming race of hand rubbing money grubbers, does that justify to genocide them?

is it ethical for humanity to genocide all jews because some of them at the top become power abusive and corrupted? dude how about me? im literally a NEET who lives in poverty and have been doing so for a decade, for the longest time i was against mass immigration and i'd consider myself a conservative, not to mention my skin is whiter than most of /pol/. LITERALLY regularly won pale competitions against the other kids growing up because i was so pale, only 1 girl, caitlin, was regularly more pale than me. how do you even discern who is white or not? are italians and greeks white? how about dark skinned frenchmen? are the irish white?

dude honestly /pol/ is such an intellectual joke. i enjoy browsing there because they are honestly oppressed and they aren't allowed to share their views in society, but holy fuck are their views so stupid. they advocate genocide literally while crying of being genocided. literally most of /pol/ think its okay for whites to hurt other races because "its muh race hehe" but its wrong for other races to hurt whites because "das da ebil thing to do, and whites would not hurt anyone, we are pure innocent angels UwU"

not to mention, how can you hate jews if you fall for their propaganda? like germans and swedes are such brainlet brainwashed cucks they fall for the most anti-whiet propaganda? i see the irony in that i fell for bible castration cuck propaganda, but thats besides the point as i dont hate the bible like how do you shift the blame on jews when its literally whites who encompass the majority of radical antifa membership?

like /pol/ is literally on the same level as crazy non-whites who advocate genocide of whites because colonial whites raped and killed a lot of them. "look look whites killed us in the past so its okay for us to genocide them, stand up for yourself black man and latino man! take back these lands with force!" its LITERALLY the same. like, ive never associated myself with virtually any liberal or leftist ideology, but the further /pol/ degenerates into a genocide advocating hate group the more i distance myself from them

>ablooo ablooo waaaa whites in south africa are getting genocided ='((( huueee

>heh we should genocide jews because they lie sometimes and they are too smart see look they are all rich! those evil jews are so greedy!

the amount of hypocrisy in /pol/ rivals only the amount of hypocrisy of meat eaters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-j86LM-nl0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM4BE14pAgo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPLP8B5G3-I

your hypocrisy levels are literally on the same level as these radical blacks who advocate genocide of whites


 No.310311

>>310310

The actions of the kikes throughout the centuries absolutely justifies genociding every single last one of you. Kill yourself, faggot.


 No.310312

File: c4397c36cf16ab0⋯.jpg (746.03 KB, 1184x1428, 296:357, politics.jpg)

File: df003f52b231922⋯.jpg (86.86 KB, 730x601, 730:601, murder of natives.JPG)

>>310311

but this line of logic is regularly used by anti-white minority hate groups to genocide whites. they literally point out how whites genocided and enslaved millions of latins and niggers when they came to the americas, and they state historical facts

whites aren't this innocent angel race, literally the spanish raped and killed millions of indigenous latins when they first discovered latin america. does the bad behavior of our ancestors justify genocide? im sure you think of radical hate groups like those "we wuz kangs" as a intellectual joke, yet in principle you are no different from them when you advocate to genocide jews

jews have been deeply involved in the development of technology, the abolition of slavery, animal rights, etc. there are jews who fight for good causes, stop painting all jews as evil hand rubbing demons when its you who is advocating mass genocide, and not them

for example, lets look at russia. russia has historically been home to jews for a very long time, my dad literally is a russian jew, yet russians dont fall for multi-cultural propaganda. even russian jews are almost universally against mass immigration, be they in russia or in israel. yet whites in white countries adore mass immigration. stop blaming jews for every single problem in your life, you literal whiny faggot

dude /pol/ is such a bainlet cesspool. like they literally talk about the dumbest trivial events yet they entirely ignore things like artifical intelligence or veganism. they are interested in events that are going to change the world but are ignorant of ai, and the core reason why they like political issues is because they are about equality and human rights, but advocate genocide of racial groups they dont like and mock the suffering of sentient animals like pigs or cows

/pol/ is a joke and i hope you guys dont believe their horseshit. at least statistically genuine virgins are apathetic towards politics


 No.310313

>>310312

It's okay for us Aryans to genocide kikes because kikes are our enemy. There is no such thing as objectivity in nature. If you're White, you fight against the enemies of Whites. If you're non-White, then your enemies are different and you fight against your own race's enemies.

Every last kike on the planet, including your faggot kike dad and whore kike mom, deserve to die. Most of all you. Nothing wrong with genociding kikes. Cry more.


 No.310314

File: e8c5dbd822ce963⋯.png (113.59 KB, 1092x1052, 273:263, cognitive dissonance.png)

>>310313

>It's okay for us Aryans to genocide kikes because kikes are our enemy

>enemies tho

yeah, i dont know if you'll accept this AMAZING justification if anyone was to hurt you? like by these standards its morally right for jews to finance the murder of whites, and its morally right for muslims to rape white girls in britan, because "enemies tho"

literally by your own standards its morally okay for someone else to kill your entire family and curb stomp you, just as long as they consider you an enemy

>If you're White, you fight against the enemies of Whites

wtf, WHY? the amount of violence and war has been radically decreasing throughout history, dont you think its nice to live in peace?

i mean you dont have to go around killing your emenies. you could just sit down, chill the fuck out, eat some apple banana oatmeal and drink some tea. i do that shit all the time, pic related

>If you're non-White, then your enemies are different and you fight against your own race's enemies

so in principle, you dont actually think murder and rape and genocide is morally wrong, you are okay in principle with blacks coming to white countries and raping children, but in practical terms you want to stop it

in the same way that you think that might is right, but you dont want to be the victim of abuse of someone more powerful. tell me, do you think might is right?

are you even a virgin?

>deserve to die. Most of all you

heh, it seems as it ive caused a bit of a cognitive dissonance mental breakdown. oopsie~!

>Nothing wrong with genociding kikes

but why is it wrong for other races to genocide whites but okie dokie for whites to genocide jews? dont you think historically whites have also done a jew bad things? maybe just a teensie weensie itsy bitsy little bad thing? like maybe the colonization and genocide of south america? a small little oopsie, perhaps?


 No.310315

File: 7f0de24abf62f9d⋯.jpg (1.36 MB, 3264x2448, 4:3, IMG_1067 (1).JPG)

>>310314

oops, forgot to upload a picture of my oatmeal. i eat stuff like this fairly regularly, i even literally ate it today with some green tea

we all make some oopsies in our lives every once in a while, even the great men of history like hitler made some oopsies, but do those oopsies justify genocide?


 No.310316

File: 216b149bc4cdcf7⋯.png (5.26 MB, 1800x1599, 600:533, ClipboardImage.png)

File: eaccada9df49a74⋯.png (4.6 MB, 1800x1599, 600:533, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 8ad770e3ecfafdc⋯.png (4.74 MB, 1800x1599, 600:533, ClipboardImage.png)

I just finished eating two sloppy joes for breakfast.


 No.310326

I ate a bowl of cereal. I killed some plants to do it. It's ok though, because they're not animals, they're plants and so they deserve to die more than animals for my sustenance through arbitrary reasoning.


 No.310327

>>310326

first of all, i should point out that plants aren't sentient and they dont have the ability to suffer or feel pain or have emotions. they dont have a brain or a central nervous system, and morality is only for things that can suffer. dogs for example are capable of suffering thats why we care for their well-being, but plants or rocks or water cannot suffer or feel any emotions

second of all, while it may be tragic that you had to end the lives of those plants and i mourn their loss in solidarity with you, should point out that by going vegan you dramatically reduce the amount of plant lives killed, because something like for every 1 kilo of cattle, we need 20 kilo's of grains, or even more grass

lastly, if you truly cannot bear the moral responsibility of killing cucumbers, of murdering that lettuce, of butchering that kale, and you break down in tears everyday as you eat your salad, there is a way to go vegan without even the death of plants

a fully frutarian diet only eats the fruits of trees, without the need to ruthlessly decapitate heads of kale and cabbage, so that option is available. you're so thoughtful and kind to care about the lives of plants, truly, meat eaters are the angels of the plant world

https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/plants-are-alive


 No.310333

>>310316

Oh my fucking god let me eat


 No.310335

File: df0baeab48c1589⋯.png (167.66 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 1125617.png)

>>310333

Let you eat what? Rarity's butt nuggets?


 No.310337

File: c048cb9fe7d21bb⋯.mp4 (4.28 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, clean_rat.mp4)

>>310335

Anything that is not animated horseshit.


 No.310341

>>310327

Not sentient as far as you know. Perhaps we haven't developed the scientific knowledge necessary to measure their sentience?


 No.310344

File: 460db92ba224509⋯.png (5.24 MB, 3000x3300, 10:11, 1967562.png)

File: ff280b7c069064a⋯.png (4.43 MB, 3000x3300, 10:11, 1967563.png)

File: bc07f271ad58514⋯.png (4.56 MB, 3000x3300, 10:11, 1967564.png)

>>310337

So you prefer real shit. I don't think the vegans would take kindly to you eating all the fertilizer they need to grow the plants they eat.

>>310339

No.


 No.310350

>>310327

You cannot prove to me that you are sentient, no matter what you say I can always refute by saying that you could be a robot, or a replicant, or anything of the sort. Therefore I can eat you.

>frutarian

That wouldn't be a vegan equivalent though, since it means the consumption of plant product and that's a no no for vegans, it would be like eating eggs. The true way to live without bringing harm to life would be to sustain yourself completely through licking rocks for minerals and drinking distilled water so that you can be sure there's no fish pee in it.


 No.310356

>>310315

>i even literally ate it today with some green tea

I thought you literally fucking left already and here I find you literally blogging about your literal slop of shit that you think is literally so fucking interesting when you literally could have made rocky mountain oysters out of your own literal balls but of course you wouldn't do something that would literally make me appreciate you as a person, you're literally a disappointment in every conceivable way, literally fuck off like you literally said you would you literal piece of waste.


 No.310402

File: 30438338c3e5a19⋯.jpg (253.59 KB, 701x728, 701:728, 1458258270701.jpg)

he even made his own board

>>>/veganism/


 No.310437

File: cc71ce6e2f38fdd⋯.png (251.29 KB, 386x555, 386:555, nanimon.png)

>be me

>vegan

>legitimately don't care much about animals except "they're cute and fun creatures but I don't view killing them for food to be anything more than natural"

>more do it because of big companies and poor management

>veggies don't have all these carcinogens, processing, steroids, chemicals, blood, salmonella, and all this other disgusting shit that makes it inedible raw

>incredibly wasteful to the environment, the amount of feed given to animals could be used to feed many more people and yes it is possible to survive on basic crops like rice and beans and potatos and bread without huge cows that produce tons of methane gas

>also never really liked meat from a taste sense, it left a greasy aftertaste in my mouth and felt heavy in my stomach, also made my breath smell awful and made me feel generally uncomfortable

>started eating a more varied diet of things like avocados and mangos and walnuts and wild rice and spelt flour whereas I just used to eat buffet food, tendies, and pizza

>felt a lot better

>lost more weight than I've ever lost before

>still have some acne but it's mostly cleared up

>a horrible skin fungus I had is finally starting to clear up

>feel cleaner in general after cutting greasy processed foods and other junk out of my diet

>can touch my toes without much training or preparation

>feel less disgusting in general and feel less bloated and sick

>even my allergies have gotten less severe

>even though I care little for animals, going vegan at least reduces the amount of animals that get mistreated like the images in the OP's upload and it's disgusting to think that so often in animal agriculture it's a slow, painful, dirty, and pure evil profit-motivated slaughter process

It's not for the animals anons, it's for you. Humans don't need meat. We don't need to be poisoned by mercury in fish. We don't need to get sick from eating meat. Why the hell do you still do it? Fuck vegans, I don't like most of them I meet since they tend to be preachy and completely cucked by animals. While I agree it's wrong for things like what happened in OP's picture to ever exist, these animals are specifically bred to be eaten and I don't find it cruel if the meat will be sent off to be eating. It's only a human way of doing what other species already do to these animals. However, it's incredibly wasteful and is mostly just based off of tastes and demands of fat Americans who eat a full-course meal from McDonalds twice a day every single day and all the restaurants. Honestly if people could just go flexitarian I'd be happier. Not just Americans either but places like Switzerland and Austria. It would be better if the world stopped overindulging on these things that are so fucking bad for them and institutionalized it so much that until roughly 5 years ago or so it was virtually impossible to find a good vegan restaurant that didn't cost an arm and a leg.


 No.310438

>>310437

also, I won't forget to mention how the diet has given me a lot more nutrients than I was getting in the past. the meat and chips and pizza I ate just didn't satisfy my nutritional need as well as raw vegetables could. plus it's too expensive to afford both so I chose the healthier option.


 No.310439

>>310438

>a lot more nutrients than I was getting in the past

I'd wager that's due to you paying attention to what you eat, and that you could do the same even if you still ate meat. It likely just encourages you to do so.


 No.310448

>>310439

Possibly, but like I've said before: I can't afford both. Vegetables provide the better balance.


 No.310454

>>310448

>I can't afford meat

>So let me come up with some bullshit vegans love to spout why meat is bad for you


 No.310493

File: 168fb6f0cbd50d8⋯.png (3.48 MB, 3000x3000, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

MEATY


 No.310496

>>310493

Ok, I understand it being giant. I understand that it's a furry thing. I understand that it's got a big floppy benis, but why does it have suction. Normal penises do not have suction.

Also, fuck vegans. Man evolved to eat meat


 No.310617

>retarded eunuch gets BTFO on so many levels that he whines in meta thread about anons making his thread active by posting random pics

this is fucking epic. stay mad, ungrateful nullo


 No.311091

> we exist as a result of harming other creatures for our own survival.

You can't deny your biology, or let Darwin take you to the pool of abandoned genes.


 No.311092

>>311091

Eunuch-kun did not only deny his biology, but he chopped it off from his body.


 No.311108

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>replying to his thread

>replying to his thread without sage

>replying to his thread without furry porn


 No.311216

Maybe eunuch is right, without meat his ancestors wouldn't have developed the brainpower to create a malfunctioning testicleless neurotypical. His entire family line would have been cave tier berrypickers, and i think that lifestyle suits him more


 No.311217

I dont think his argument is about muh animals. We know eunuch is more emotionally impulsive than most neurotypicals, hence his abysmally low willpower that lost him his testicles (he still masturbates anyways), and his claim that he became a vegan purely to "fit in" to cuckchan. From what ive seen in this thread he keeps repeating the same argument, mistreatment of animals. Every post trying to argue his point starts out with "muh torture of animals theyre innocenttttttt". He has no reason to go vegan, he, like everything hes done on this board, is purely to inject drugs into his subpar, malfunctioning, normalcattle brain. He couldn't care less about anything else, which is why he copied this thread from wizchan and posted it here for more attention. What was that post that was quoted from /cow/? There are people on the internet that cannot fathom doing anything else but the feedback loop that tingles their autistic brain. With these people, giving them any attention, ridicule or not, is positive reinforcement for them, and they cannot and will not stop. Starving them out will not change them, but it will keep them away from the community


 No.311218

>>309683

>buying meat is not survival

>obtaining food in your environment is not survival

Are you gonna say that buying veggies from a store isn't survival? Where else are you going to get the food in a developed human environment? The concrete? Why do you hate supermarkets


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 No.311486

>>309048

>dig up a potato

>store it for a winter

>put it back into a dirt

>awesome potato grows back

>cut plant's stalk

>put it into a water

>roots are growing back

>awesome plants lives

ill skip seed rant

plants are pleasing my autism, as opposed to animals, the only thing the plants cannot do that animals can is to show affection/emotion/whatever, but good harvest is a good substitute of that and more than enough

also as a child of ex-farmer i dont get how its possible to attach emotionally to any animal thats raised specifically for farming purposes and id be grateful if somebody would be willing to explain to me the purpose of emotional attachment and worse, humanization of animals


 No.311489

>>311486

yeah this is true people beat the shit out of cows. literally the dumbest animal.


 No.311496

>>311486

>id be grateful if somebody would be willing to explain to me the purpose of emotional attachment and worse, humanization of animals

I think it mostly comes from children's books humanizing animals and a lack of experience with death of animals or animals in general. Farm animals are treated like fairy tale creatures for most kids that don't grow up on a farm, before they know what hamburgers are made out of.


 No.311587

>>311496

No, whites have the highest empathy of all races. It is the blessing and the curse of our race.


 No.311588

>>311587

>No

Actually what you said can work along with what I said. If we didn't have high empathy children's books with farm animals a) wouldn't be made and b) wouldn't have the same impact.


 No.311647

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still killing animals you know, just the way things are


 No.311704

What's with the influx of vegans on every board? You guys have at least 2 boards of your own for this.

>human dont need ANY animal products to have optimal health

Yes we do. Humans are facultative carnivores, falling into the omnivorous spectrum. We can eat almost anything but we need animal proteins to be at optimal health. A human can survive on a plant-only diet, but surviving is not the same as thriving.

>animal products consumption are commonly associated in the medical literature with things like obesity and heart disease

Those studies include processed and fatty, unhealthy animal products that no one should be eating. It's not just pure butcher-fresh meats and eggs in those stats.

>and its extremely unethical

Support ethical and sustainable ranching and farming by learning where your food comes from and how it's raised and treated. Commercial farms like the ones you and other vegans like to cherry-pick for shock value are cancer. There's plenty that don't do that. Hunting for or raising your own is ideal, but not everyone can do that. Be informed instead.

>these animals dont want to die

I think most creatures don't want to die but that's how life works. You are an animal, too. Living things die, and living things are killed so that others may live. This does NOT mean you should go around carelessly killing everything around you because you can, but nearly the opposite. You know what you need and also the value of a life, so you only take what little you need when you need it, and do not let it go to waste when you do. You are not disconnected from nature just because you don't want to see a chicken die. You are part of that nature, part of its cycle. It's admirable to care about your fellow living beings and you should do so, but completely cutting yourself off from the world and what you are isn't the way to go about it. It's a denial of reality and rejecting who and what you are, and that never ends well.

I don't know if you're a longtime vegan or if you're just really into the narrative and think you're doing good by spreading vegan stuff around or not. This isn't talking down to you or "trying to corrupt your mind" or whatever the popular idea is in that group now. It's a statement of how shit is and how life on the planet works, and how YOU work and are a PART of that. I've seen too many people go down the vegan rabbit hole, divorcing themselves from reality, and end up starved and permanently in a mental fog with rotting teeth and nails falling off. I can't force you to do anything, all I can do is put this here and send you my genuine hope that you wake up before you go too far like they did. Maybe you'll understand, maybe you won't, nothing else I can do. Godspeed, fucker.


 No.311713

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>>309028

>please logically defend eating meat.

Population control.

There is only x amount of farm animals that a farmer can logically maintain. Culling the herd of old animals means that there are spots for the newer generations to fill in.

>animals such as pigs, chickens and cows are fully sentient and conscious, and suffer tremendously as a result of your taste-bud preferences.

Put profit as a primary goal in farming, and you tend to see shit like what you posted.

Put people that do not give a damn about the concept of farming, and you tend to see shit like what you posted.

Put the aforementioned two negatives together, and this is the reason as to why animals suffer.

TL;DR: Factory farming is AIDS-tier, and is the reason as to why PETAfags and their ilk find material that they can use to guilt trip people into swindling their shekels.

>human dont need ANY animal products to have optimal health, and animal products consumption are commonly associated in the medical literature with things like obesity and heart disease

There is only a set amount of what you can get (nutritionally) from plants and animals. Us, being omnivores, helps maximize what little that we can get from the two instead of relying only on plants (which in turn, fuck up the soil constitution) or animals (dysgenics setting in as well as transmission and mutation of animal sicknesses due to improper handling).

>and its extremely unethical. enslaving, torturing, castrating, raping, and murdering sentient animals for your amusement is not an ethical justification.

The "farmers" and their "helpers" that do not do what they are supposed to do are unethical.

>dont you think its funny how so many depressed virgins on /r9k/ and complain about the abuse you've experienced in life by the hands of insensitive normies, but turn around and perpetuate much worse violence unto innocent animals?

>like honestly, half of this board has people complaining of depression, being abused by normies/their parents, stress, being in pain, wanting to kill themselves, etc. do you think theres any irony in by eating meat you are contributing to suffering that is FAR AND AWAY in excess of anything that you've suffered in life, yet you have the nerve to complain about your petty problems?

>dont you think eating meat is hypocritical of you, if you complain about your problems in life caused by other people more powerful than you?

>these animals dont want to die, experience torture, live in a small cage their entire life, or be raped, but they do experience those things just for your simple tastebuds and food preferences.

>im sure "muh yummy in my tummy tum tum, its fun for me haha" is not an ethical justification you'd accept if someone was to mistreat you

The mere fact that you have to resort to appeals to emotion show how reactionary your view is with regards to animal maltreatment. No different from the roasties that cry when they see a kitten or puppy get run over, yet cheer on chad or tyrone when they bully some poor sod for their own pleasure.


 No.311723

>>309028

All fucking hippies and faggots and pinkies need to be fucking hanged. Kill yourself you stupid balless faggot.


 No.311724

Animals that poo all over themselves don't garner any sympathy from me.


 No.311740

>people bumping this thread

>people bumping this thread by replying to op

You guys need more herbs in your life


 No.311911

>>311647

(You)

This, Death to agri(cult)ure!


 No.315267

Thanks for fighting the good fight op, I will start my vegetarian diet after reading your arguments. Fuck the retarded nigger faggot who were giving you shit, they should unironically kill themselves, their myopia knows no bounds.


 No.315269

>>315267

>bumping the thread

Kill yourself.


 No.315271

>>309036

shitheads like you are actually the problem.

You don't speak for me, selfish stain on humanity.

When the aliens come I hope they treat you like Foie gras


 No.315274

>mfw I went on ketogenic diet just to assblast OP

>loving every meal so far

>all of those slaughtered defenseless animals on my plate

wew, life is good


 No.315277

>hes back and hes replying to himself


 No.315287

>>315271

Problem with what, exactly? Fucking nigger. I've hoped aliens would eat me since I was a child and yet where are they? They're in space because faggots like you scare them off. You're the reason I haven't been killed by Xenomorphs yet.


 No.315310

I don't understand why people are vegan and not just vegetarian.


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>>309028

>please logically defend eating meat

Meat is food. All done. Anything else?


 No.315367

>>315358

You should be ground and then tossed into compost for replying to a necrobumped op with such a empty statement. Read the thread and realize you dont have to input anything because everyone else did it beforehand, and far better as well. Get off my board


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>>315367

You're meat. You're next. Prepare to die.

just for your needlessly stupid, useless autistic outburst, im going to periodically revive this thread until it is removed. chug bleach in the meantime.


 No.315372

>>315370

Go ahead, then sub iq tourists like you wont be able to necrobump it when its capped


 No.315373

>>315372

k

unoriginalolol


 No.315374

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>>315267

thanks dude. i try talking about this subject in all the imageboards i browse, primarily wizchan and 4chan, but i figured i'd also hit this place up. i just strongly feel the need to talk about it. in wizchan i triggered the normie mods there so badly they banned the topic, literally flagrant power abuse by the non-virgin normie mods who own the place, i literally broke no rules they just ban thought crime, a lot of people were posting on the thread too. in 4chan i also made them, if you search desu archives on r9k a lot of the vegan threads are probably mine. i dont have an outlet to express my thoughts on veganism, so i just let it out in imageboards

i even called my dad and talked to him for 2 hours, and talked to my mom 1 hour about a month ago on the this subject. i got my mom to go vegan, and i got my dad to think about the subject. my mom literally said she never even thought about this before, and shes like 51. its by far the only positive interaction i had with her in my life. most of life growing up with her she never spoke to me EVER even a little bit about anything, and i saw her everyday

>Fuck the retarded nigger faggot who were giving you shit

yeah, i dont understand why im just naturally inclined to inadvertently piss so many people off. its really always been like this for me, even before 8chan was invented. not to mention the userbase on 8ch is more hostile than other websites for some reason, i blame /pol/. put the 2 together and people are going to get triggered

>>315277

i think only like once or twice maybe a good decade ago ive stooped so low as to pretend to be someone else talking to my posts, back in the old days of /b/


 No.315376

>>315374

> i dont understand why im just naturally inclined to inadvertently piss so many people off

That's almost the only purpose of these boards at this point. It's not just you.


 No.315379

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>>315367

>because everyone else did it beforehand, and far better as well

i strongly disagree with this statement. i dont think there was any refutation of veganism provided in this thread, nor have i ever heard of a refutation against veganism, and i binge listen to high level vegan debates while playing single player diablo 2

like i LITERALLY listen to tons of vegan gains debates, ask yourself debates, peter singer debates, shelly kagan debates, etc etc. ive honestly never in my life heard a proper refutation for veganism

imo the strongest argument by far is

>"i admit its hypocritical but i DONT CARE. i enjoy hurting animals and i simply dont care"

there is no interaction with these kinds of people. you can bring a horse to water, but you cant make it drink, basically. but they have no integrity according to their own ethics and are hypocrites by their own standards

after which, i guess the question, to what degree are such people okay with being unscrupulous and immoral?

would you be okay with bully and hurting the weak shy kids in school if it meant being happier and more financially successful throughout life?

would you be okay with hurting and exploiting and lying to anyone just as long as you can get away with it? what people find acceptable to do is random and arbitrary

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/30/bullies-are-happier-have-more-sex-appeal-says-study/?utm_term=.3f3cc393536f


 No.315380

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>>309028

Arguing with vegan is like arguing with a commie, they are mentally lacking from all the indoctrination and lack of proper nutrients. The only way to deal with them in real life is to rape their asses repeatedly until they contemplate suicide. Since we are on imageboards, I guess we can only make do. Just dump gore and spam the shit out of this shitty thread until it dies. I dont understand why tyrone hasnt deleted this and ban the balless bitch out of existence. Remember guys, this guy is very mentally unstable, if you keep wishing him death, he may actually do it.


 No.315381

File: 980f796de324e8b⋯.webm (9.39 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, solongVR.webm)

Post pictures of your balls man.


 No.315382

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This is now the lol so random thread


 No.315383

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How does this make you feel bitch


 No.315384

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>>315274

>mfw I went on ketogenic diet just to assblast OP

yeah, there are people like that, for sure. people who simply are so childish and immature and petty that they go out of their way to eat meat, just to spite vegans. LITERALLY so arrogant and proud they enjoy

one such case is theamazingathiest for as ive know him, banana king. he actively goes out of his way to waste meat, throw food away in front of homeless people, and mock vegans by being extra wasteful, because this is his state of mind. truly the most mature and deep individuals behave like this

but honestly, if you've listened to every single vegan argument, saw every single factory farm video and animal slaughter video and still dont care, then i feel you are beyond saving. the purpose of this thread is to inform as many people as possible about the arguments and facts about veganism and why its morally superior to eating meat for your pleasure. the purpose was to eliminate ignorance and learn people about veganism inside and out

but if you're so prideful and petty that you feel inclined to behave like a child, just to spite vegans, by all means go ahead. i fully support end stage carnivorous diets, because those people understand veganism very well, they just choose the opposite. knowledge is always better than ignorance, even if you knowingly choose the bad option

its just incredibly hypocritical and unethical of you, by your own standards

>>315381

why? theres not much to see. i dont know, maybe it was it a mistake to do so? it might of been. i wont lie i constantly debate over the decision and flip-flop constantly, but regardless i remember feeling like i basically had no choice but to go through with it. i honestly feel like i was destined to do so

>>315383

rly maeks me think! also if i wanted my sex drive back i could just inject test

also funny how triggered people like you are. cognitive dissonance at full displace at this intellectual cesspool


 No.315385

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>>315310

because being vegetarian also necessitates rape, murder and exploitation of cows

the only time a cow ever lactates is when she is pregnant or recently after she gave birth, just like all mammals. so what they do is they take young cows who just reach puberty and are at a prime age of breeding, and they forcibly impregnate them

then they take the newborn calf away. the calfs never drink the cows milk, thats for humans only. then if the calf is male it gets killed and sold as veal, and if the cow is female she gets raised up to be either a breeding cow/milker or she is raised for beef

the beef cows are killed younger because they aren't milked for years. the milk breeding cows are milked for 3-5 years until they arent in their prime and then they are also killed. these cows are basically young teenagers and children compared to human years, their natural age can be up to 20 years, and most beef cows rarely live longer than 18 months

like these cows call out for their kids weeks after they've last seen them, they can feel love and grief for their children just as deeply as any other mammal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBnZPJJ2QG4

literally the more milk people drink, the more veal is produced, making veal more available and cheaper, because veal and milk go hand in hand. if you think killing animals is unethical and you think vegetarianism is morally superior to eating meat, then veganism is morally superior to vegetarianism


 No.315386

>>315384

A dumbass will always be a dumbass, nothing will ever cure it. You cutting your balls is full proof of that. Why should we listen to what a complete moron has to say? Again, kill yourself balless bitch.


 No.315387

>>309070

>what smart animals didnt hunt?

Birds? There are species of parrot and raven that are pretty fucking smart. Most of the corvid species are omnivorous and get insect protein. Maybe the psittacines get enough proteins from nuts because they're small? At least, in relation to primates, cetaceans, etc.


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>>315386

>>315386

>A dumbass will always be a dumbass, nothing will ever cure it.

maybe. intelligence tends to be stable throughout life, but even the most intelligent to the least intelligent, from the most convinced and prideful to the least, do change their minds from time to time. literally there are people who changed their minds about something they argued for decades, look at ex vegans

>Why should we listen to what a complete moron has to say?

you dont have to do anything. you dont have to go vegan. you can do whatever you want. you can dress up as a teletubby and pretend to be batman. but im just telling you, if you eat meat you are a hypocrite according to your ethical beliefs and standards of behavior. you can shove your fingers into your ears and scream, but you cant tell me im wrong

are you okay with that? are you okay with being a hypocrite? to what degree are you okay with having double standards?

join us and go vegan. honestly, or just larp as a vegan. when i started making threads on 4chan about it, when i first started i literally just was mocking people and trolling them. i wasnt even there to educate people or argue people, i just thought the arguments for eating meat were so fucking bad all i did was post smug anime girls and enjoyed the moral highground

seriously, smugly shitposting from the moral highground can be pretty fun. its like sending smug emails to serial killers about how you think killing people is wrong and how you love your freedom. or maybe how non-slave owners would talk to slave owners back when slavery was legal. but ive since stopped being smug about it

like, if you want to see how bad the arguments for eating meat are, just pretend to be a vegan and argue with a meat eater, seriously. yesterday i remember i spend a good 5 minutes laughing at some of the shit i was reading, i made a vocaroo about it and everything


 No.315390

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to all the meat eaters in this thread:

>would you eat chimps, apes, and gorillas?

>what do you think about dog fighting? do you think it should be allowed?

>do you think its okay to legalize farming, killing and eating dogs or cats?

>what do you think about hunting? do you think its okay to hunt for sport? do you think its okay to hunt grizzlies or exotic birds or exotic animals for sport?

>why only stop at pigs cows and chickens? would you eat humans or niggers if you woudln't get sick from it?


 No.315410

>>315390

The difference between human rules of morality and the true natural moral code is that humanity controls and enslaves each other by enforcing rules. These rules are set as laws, are fixed and entirely against the natural order. It's a make believe slave doctrine that has catastrophic consequences for every lifeforms living on earth. Humans use these rules not only to enslave each other, but to justify their unspeakable crimes against everything else.

Under natural law, morality is represented as the law of the land, which is an ever changing code of behavior, based on adaptation to ever changing circumstances. This is how survival works…adaptation to your surroundings, which in return adapts to you. A fixed moral code would mean to give predators the time to adapt to your weaknesses, which is a death sentence.

There is also no such thing as murder in nature, because every kill is only judged by the consequences of it. If the kill is in accordance to the laws of nature and for the benefit of all, then it's a beneficial death. Natural morals come into play when the action of the kill endanger not only the survival of the perpetrator, but the natural order (harmony, balance) of his surroundings. That's why a wolf pack accepts the strongest as the alpha leader and attacks only the weakest to keep the collective group secure. Their temporary moral code is to secure the pack, thereby operating under a moral law.

In short…human morals are self destructive lies made to control us. There is nothing wrong with killing or eating meat, as long as it is in accordance with the laws of nature and for the benefit of all. Mass producing meat is against the laws of nature and an abhorrent crime committed against animals and against humans.


 No.315413

There are plenty of non-human meat eater too, do you blame lions who hunt down, torture and eat the dying prey too? Nature does not care about the suffering of any animal including humans, the only "ethical" thing would be to eliminate all life to prevent suffering. I for one would welcome oblivion.


 No.315416

>>309038

>>309120

>>309133

>>309156

PSA: Humans belong to the Animal Kingdom


 No.315429

Why are vegans always nutjobs? I've yet to meet a vegan that's alright in the head.


 No.315432

>>315429

Because of falling for the rhetoric trap. See, if you you don't eat animals then that's okay, but if you use a term to define yourself on what you don't do, then you are an insufferable cunt trying to go for validation points. Same shit with atheism. Calling yourself an atheist means you define yourself by being against religions, which gives religions a reason to exist. These are weaponized terms, to trap you with rhetoric.


 No.315444

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>>315432

LOL its actually hilarious just how hard meat eaters have to dodge vegans on an intellectual level. if you actually had an argument to make you'd obviously make it seeing as how deeply you have vegans. problem is you FUCKING DONT lelllll so you have to dodge the question and call vegans insufferable, just like all other meat eaters who are well versed in vegan arguments

its one thing if you are ignorant of the topic and never really thought about it before. my mother went 50 years without ever really thinking about it until i brought it to her attention. but its another thing if you are knowledgeable on the subject and still choose cruelty for your amusement, and try to undermine vegan arguements by calling them names like a filthy rat

>but if you use a term to define yourself on what you don't do, then you are an insufferable cunt trying to go for validation points

>waaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa dont be a part of a group that i dont like being it hurts my feelings ='''(((((( im the real victim here waaa

LOL okay dude. vegans are just people who dont kill animals for their amusement and remind you how your eating habits to result in animal torture and death. and you hate on them because they reveal the truth to you. you are like the catholics who killed millions of gnostics for questioning their religion, you are like a middle ager who publicly kills witches

>Calling yourself an atheist means you define yourself by being against religions, which gives religions a reason to exist

……………….

im not even a athiest, but boy, you sure are a bright one, arent you?

btw, jesus was a vegan. literally the original jesus movement of the ebionites were ascetic vegetarians. there is a long history of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8tBkuLftDA&list=PLIAom8LXSjhLIY5SsBSqgRlu3bZWmuZN2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6J6jh1Dzo

robert eisenman is a noteworthy scholar on the subject and he says that the original jesus movement was entirely vegetarian in all his books. he is popular for being a lead figure in campaigning for the dead sea scrolls to be released to the public from decades of catholic control

literally in the gospel of the ebionites and the gospels of the nazarenes, which predate our modern gospels, it had a vegan jesus


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>>315413

> do you blame lions who hunt down, torture and eat the dying prey too?

lions are obligate carnivorous. they literally DONT HAVE A CHOICE. if they dont eat meat they die, and they dont have a large enough brain to contemplate things like morality

humans on the other hand are omnivorous. we have a CHOICE, and we are smart enough to contemplate and understand morality

you know, lions kill their children all the time, and they rape each other too. does this mean humans should start behaving like lions do?

>I for one would welcome oblivion.

ahhh, so are perfectly fine with niggers and jews destroying the western world, commiting tons of crimes against whites, raping white women and killing whites at a disproportionate rate?


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>>315410

>as long as it is in accordance with the laws of nature

what does that even mean, "laws of nature"??????????

rape and murder are extremely commonplace and natural in the wild. does that make it okay for humans to do?

infanticide; the killing of a child under 1 year, is also incredibly common in the wild. does that make it okay for humans to do? is it moral under natural law for a mother to kill their 6 month old child because its natural?

>Under natural law, morality is represented as the law of the land, which is an ever changing code of behavior, based on adaptation to ever changing circumstances. This is how survival works…adaptation to your surroundings, which in return adapts to you.

>A fixed moral code would mean to give predators the time to adapt to your weaknesses, which is a death sentence

we dont even have predators. we are all sitting comfortably in our computer chairs on the internet drinking some nice filtered sanitary beverage in the cartel of civilization. there is no predators trying to kill you. how fucking delusional are you

>here is nothing wrong with killing or eating meat, as long as it is in accordance with the laws of nature and for the benefit of all

>for the benefit of all

but eating meat is not for the benefit of all because it has victims. pigs cows and chickens are sentient conscious animals who are the victims here. in the same way that a dog would be the victim of getting killed and having its ribs barbequed on a grill in china, pigs and cows are killed and are a victim of murder for your tastebuds

there is a victim here

would you be okay if niggers were to invade your home, kill your family and pets, beat you into a coma and rob you?

all you meat eaters are so delusional and hypocritical, i swear to god


 No.315453

>>315444

Wanna get your mind blown, anon? I don't eat meat. Haven't done so for over a decade, and I have never refer to myself as a vegan or a vegetarian. Why? Because I don't play identity politics to appease others, while putting my self in the corner thanks to promoting division. No, when I'm asked why I don't eat meat I give them a reason…not a label.

>I'm not even an atheist, but boy, you sure are a bright one, aren't you?

Imagine you want to control a large portion of humanity and you use religion as the tool to indoctrinate your rules upon. Now imagine that worked for only 1/3, while the rest didn't fall for it. So what are you gonna do? Waste your time by trying to convert them to your sect? Mohammad tried that way later on, trying to get followers by being a soapbox preacher. Didn't work, so he became the next best thing…a warlord who conquered and enslaved his followers. And boy was he successful.

Anyway, preaching and converting doesn't work, so they came up with the idea to make an enemy out of all the non-believers, and how does one make enemies? By calling them names. So now the propaganda machines were busy teaching the believers to call the non-believers atheists (same with infidels later on). It didn't take long before all the normal humans who wanted nothing to do with religions, accepted the term atheism as a rally term to go against those annoying believers. This way the atheists have established their identity by being against religious believers, which the controllers now could use to boost the worth of religion, because if you have so many enemies, than you must be important.

Fast forward and thousands of years of religious indoctrination later, and the self proclaimed atheists grew up in a civilization that is based on religious rules, but unlike the believers the atheists don't have a target to direct their faith on (faith is a natural trait), and so they were in desperate need of finding an identity to follow, and in came the controllers to sell them on their newest religion/control mechanism…materialism in form of capitalism. Fast forward to 2019 and the atheist are the biggest believers of them all; capitalism fundamentalists, with their own idol worshiping, their own moral codes and their own gods.

And lastly this is also why Christianity is now on the chopping block (using Islam as proxy warriors), because the perfect slave for the controllers are self destructive hedonists. And this is why you're writing your own death sentence by accepting weaponized terms.


 No.315454

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>>315453

>long history story

thanks for that, it truly was a very interesting story. i guess by your logic we shouldn't give names to anything, because who are weaponizing radicalizing terms that trigger people. DAMN how could i not have thought of that before

i shouldn't call myself anything. i shouldn't call myself white, i shouldnt call myself male, i shouldn't refer to anything by its name, because its weaponizing terms

ooooooookay

but its nice to hear that you dont eat meat. i dont understand whats your problem with the word "vegan" and your long history story, although cool, didnt actually explain to me why calling a political movement by name is wrong

either way when it comes to politics i couldn't remotely EVEN A LITTLE give a fuck. like its hard for me to explain how little of a fuck i give for politics, stuff like capitalists vs communists, atheists vs theists, etc. i just think that killing animals for our amusement in mass is fucking insane and incredibly hypocritical, so thats why i talk about it

glad to see you're a vegan! miss me on more history stories however

and the only political movement i care about is artificial intelligence and god being born through ai, and automation taking away all jobs and destroying society. all robots and virgins should go vegan so they can stop destroying their karma, stop soiling their soul and stop being hypocrites assuming a soul or karma even exists, which i do doubt from time to time


 No.315456

>>315448

>what does that even mean, "laws of nature"??????????

The rules of existence that are governing everything inside this ecosystem. Existence is defined as "to be or not to be", which means existence is happening in between two barriers…a beginning and an end. Now apply this to humanity and you get birth and death. This creates the second law of nature "opposites must coexist", because opposites are defined by each other (you can't die if you weren't born, you can't jump up without having a down etc.)

Back to birth(life) and death…one is always approaching while the other always running out, which makes one a negative outcome (death) and the other a positive outcome (life). that's the 3rd law of nature "morality", because avoiding death requires struggle to survive, while the survival itself is based using common sense to determine positive and negative outcomes of our actions to keep alive. These laws are fundamental for everything that exists inside this ecosystem.

>rape and murder are extremely commonplace and natural in the wild. does that make it okay for humans to do?

The difference between human morals (a lie) and natural morality is that nature demands morality to be flexible. It's called the law of the land and it's based on adapting your behavior to ever changing outside circumstances. Like a wolf pack accepts their strongest as the leader and attacks their weakest to protect the pack. This is a moral code that every wolf instinctively follows to secure it's own survival. The human morals are based on fixed laws on paper, which means humans are incapable to adapt to anyone who doesn't follow these rules, which means any predator can take advantage of a human who follows moral laws, which is why the world today is run by criminals.

That being said; rape and murder don't exist under natural laws, these actions are only judged by their outcomes. So if a wolf attacks a weak wolf then that's a kill in accordance to the laws of nature and for the benefit of the pack, but if a healthy wolf kills another healthy wolf than this against the laws of nature and will have the negative consequence that now the pack is severely weakened and the attacker disrupted the unspoken moral code and endangered the pack.

It's the same principle for humans,a t least it should, but humans are slaves to false rules and thereby enslaved to lies to endanger them. One of these is civility, which humans adamantly claim to have, but when you look at our actions throughout history you get the picture of the most savage beasts imaginable. Of course next to no human would ever admit to this, because we all are pathological liars who make up endless excuses for our actions.

>we don't even have predators.

We are constantly at war with each other. On racial level, on economical level, on sexual level, and for every hedonistic reason you could think of. The jews alone are responsible for billions of innocent lives that were murdered by economic crimes, social engineering, war mongering, eugenics, poisoning, forced race mixing etc. Abortion in the US alone has killed like 60 million babies since Planned Parenthood opened it's doors. There is nothing but predators in our ranks, and that's not even counting the self destructive hedonism that drives us into death. Read the talmud; it teaches how to kill by indirect means. You don't need a physical attacker to kill you…upping the sugar levels of every product you consume is enough to kill tens of millions each year, how about drug pushing, slave labor, human trafficking, student debts, prostitution, free access to pornography to destroy the male fertility rates etc. Nothing but death aimed at you from every direction, yet you are blind to it.


 No.315457

>>315448

>but eating meat is not for the benefit of all because it has victims.

Everyone dies. There is no escaping death, which makes life a struggle. I also told you that "opposites must coexist", that means good and bad must coexist, which also means that our survival is based upon balance in between life and death, good and bad. Nature is nonstop killing with no moral judgement. There are animals who will kill each other into extinction which is bad, but there also animals who endlessly work for the benefit of others (bees), which is good. Natural law keeps them in balance by judging their actions solely by the outcomes. Only humans judge beforehand, and they do it out of a selfish moral superiority complex. Just watch blood soaked lion cubs play joyfully inside the corpse of their prey and tell me there is a moral problem with that? That's natural. It's the human fear of death that is responsible for our delusional self destructive behavior when it comes to accepting reality.

>would you be okay if niggers were to invade your home, kill your family and pets, beat you into a coma and rob you?

That is not a moral question, because my morals have no impact on the outcome of that situation. It's about naked natural survival against predators. Its kill or be killed and that is completely normal behavior. The real crime happened way before when humans broke the moral code by not securing themselves against invaders to their race, because just like the wolf pack, the human race is a collective that protects the family unit, and if you mix the race, the protection stops and you get gang raped. Another natural law - "all actions have consequences"


 No.315460

>>315454

>i guess by your logic we shouldn't give names to anything

You cannot stop crimes, but you can adapt by understanding the criminals. Learn what these terms really mean and stop blindly believing all the horrible bullshit they feed you. All governments are organized criminals who want you to be their slaves. Learn to deal with this. You are a literal slave to money. The banks own everything in your life. You are in debt to them. Not you as an anon, you don't matter to them, but you as apart of a civilization that they control and own. You are a number and they play the odds against you.

>i shouldn't call myself white

White was weaponized and is now defined as being not of color. Same with black. These people are not black, they are Africans, Sudanese Africans, Congo Africans etc. Same as you are European or Italian or German. The term "white" is a deliberate destruction of your heritage, of your culture and of your nationality. You are now defined as nothing but a color ready to be steered into any race war they want. That's why they can easily get away with banning "it's okay to be white" signs, because it's racist to judge by color. Racist is also a completely fake term btw.

>i shouldn't call myself male

Well, they are trying to destroy the genders as we speak, so don't make the mistake of having a male pride parade to protest against whatever gender lie they use, because then they can throw male together with all the others and thereby deluding the meaning of it. They are playing rhetoric against you and they've been doing this shit for millennia. You have no chance to comprehend what kinds of shit they are pulling, just try to keep an open mind about everything they push, because they control the narrative, and it's all lies and deception.

>explain to me why calling a political movement by name is wrong

Because you give that term power by using it. It's advertisement, and once that term has power they are going to use it against you. Anti-semitism for example is a well crafted lie, that today can be used to stop any kind of criticism against jews. Now if you deconstruct the word you "Semite", which the majority of jews are not (Palestinians are), then comes "Semitic", which describes many different Arabic languages. Yet again nothing to do with jews. And then we have "Anti"…anti what? Anti Arabic languages? That makes no sense. Anti Palestinians? That describes only jews. And yet in the end the jews have hijacked all three terms and created a weaponized term as a shield for themselves, which makes no sense whatsoever. It's a nonsense accusation made by elaborate liars and deceivers.

>like its hard for me to explain how little of a fuck i give for politics

That's by design as well. It's Marxist indoctrination in your school system that deliberately prevents you to understand real politics. All the politics you know are just show for the masses. You cannot control a country with a democracy. A democracy means two opposing parties making compromises and nobody has to take the consequences for their decisions. That's nonsense, all theater, it's completely impossible to rule like this. Real politics are made by a handful of people who plan ahead for decades if not centuries and then using their time to write a script for political actors that is meant to keep humanity busy, while also hiding their crimes. That's why all political language, all religious language and all economical language is just endless, meaningless drivel meant to make you fall asleep or go dumb by listening to it. A politician will never answer yes or no. Why? Because simplicity means truth, while complexity hides lies. All these endless laws are made to hide endless crimes committed against you.

Here's a profound help for your future education…all the names, dates and events they shit down your brain are completely worthless to you. What you need to lean, and you have to do it on your own, is to understand the importance of the timeline, the big picture and how everything fits together and most importantly how it fits to YOU. Like when they force feed you with WWII lies, you must ask yourself how that this event fit into my life. Do you have ancestors from back then? How does it changed your country? What effects did it have on how you live your life today? etc. Do this with everything, not just history and then try to combine them. A good starting point is to understand what money is and more importantly what usury is, because it's what's enslaving you today. A dollar today is worth MINUS 22.4 trillion dollar in debt to the jewish mafia. If you use a dollar you are in debt to them.


 No.315464

>>315379

Shut up eunuch. Why do you only come here to lurk your own threads and post in em whenever some random anon decides to necrobump it


 No.315467

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>>315464

basically. i largely hate this board because they hate me, so i largely avoid it. i dont like to be in our presence just as much as you dont like to be in mine, but veganism is important to me so i speak about it, and you dont have to sage, this thread is already bump locked thanks to the admins who are triggered at the truth. many other threads like the bullying/fighting thread last, but mines get locked. typical

i bug /pol/ about this too. holy FUCK that entire board is filled to the brim with retards honestly

>>>/pol/13457954

>>315456

so anything that exists basically is in the laws of nature? so slavery is in the laws of nature? so torture and murder of heretical religious groups is okay because its within the laws of nature?

>So if a wolf attacks a weak wolf then that's a kill in accordance to the laws of nature and for the benefit of the pack

cool, so as long as my action has a benefactor, its within the natural laws? if i rape and kill a girl, i benefit from it cause i bust a fat vegan nut. does that make it okay?

tell me, is hunting animals within the "natural laws"?

>but if a healthy wolf kills another healthy wolf than this against the laws of nature and will have the negative consequence that now the pack is severely weakened and the attacker disrupted the unspoken moral code and endangered the pack.

dude thats so fucking random and arbitrary. like its not like its not so black and white like that, there is so many grey lines here. i could easily argue that it is natural for the wolves to kill the healthy wolf because they're hungry and want to eat it, so it benefits the wolf. it may be a bad decision down the line from a reproduction point of view, but it falls without the "natural order" that you created because there is a benefactor. in the weaker wolf example the weaker wolf didnt want to die, so how can you tell me its natural?

its so fucking random and arbitrary. you can literally say that anything is natural so therefor its natural to do anything, including rape slavery and murder

i dont understand, why are you vegan? dont get me wrong, i prefer you being vegan than you not, but why? why is eating meat not in the natural order? humans have killed animals for thousands of years to survive, they've bred them to be domesticated subservient slaves in farms. how is it not natural for us to kill animals and eat them when we literally can and have been doing so for thousands of years? how is hunting not natural? how is slavery not natural if it benefits me?

btw, do you think its possible that you have delusional paranoia or schizophrenia? i used to have delusional paranoia between 19 and 25~ i remember, like i thought people were trying to kill me and i brought a knive around my dad because i was convinced he was going to try to kill me. like i always thought people were trying to poison my food and i taped all the holes in my wall to people cant spy on me

>>315457

>Everyone dies. There is no escaping death, which makes life a struggle

this is an appeal to futility logical fallacy. i can use this fallacious logic to justify murder and torture. i can say to a man right before i torture and killed him "bro, everything dies, theres no escaping death, its futile. so lets me just get it over with okay?"

you obviously wouldnt accept that if you were on the receiving end of torture and murder


 No.315473

Haha a bumplock, nice. imagine posting in a place you hate, and that hates you. Because you think you're spreading awareness and truth. Issue with this is that you become just like the normals who invaded 4r9k (when there was a 4r9k to invade) to "stomp out the evil school shooters."

People have given you their opinions and philosophies and all around laughed at you, as we will always do. You're acting like someone starved for attention (maybe because you are), always coming back, only lurking your own threads. Stop that, makes the community hate you more, using it only as a platform to shill your ideas. Stop being an autist dude, you have no excuses, your testicles are gone, so should this lust for internet replies


 No.315474

I wonder if someone archived all of eunuchs threads, just to read through them and reminisce


 No.315475

all these fucking shit tier excesses and dodging the idea of morals. none of you have an argument to make. just admit to being a shit tier hypocrite and admit to being immoral by your own standards. /pol/ is a intelectual joke and so is this place

>waaa waaa i have deperssion that was caused by my shit parents and bullies and other people abloo-blooo other people are mean to me waaa

>hehehehe animals are weak and i enjoy hurting them because im stronger, its how the food chain works, deal with it loser

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0jJRtPQXCVr

>>315473

>"stomp out the evil school shooters."

school shooters are evil, my fucking dude. you dont answer abuse with abuse. if someone bullied you, its evil to kill them. its evil to go around killing normies despite them hurting you and making fun of your virginity

please note ive been charged with uttering threats to my parents when i was a teenager, so its not like i dont know whats its like to want to kill someone. i had to use every fucking nerve i had not to commit violent acts, and this is common with depressed bullied virgins. but its still fucking evil

>Stop being an autist dude

what else am i going to be? a neurotypical?

you want me to stop talking about this issue because it gives you cognitive dissonance?

lol you may all hate me, but honestly dude this thread is an intellectual cesspool, compared to a juggalo rave party or black people in debates. all you do is get emotional, insult me, and provide a endless list of logically fallacious reasons why you eat meat

LITERALLY people hate me because i dont kill animals for my amusement. thats how fucking stupid and delusional people are

>>315474

archive.fo/iDtsG


 No.315477

To only think people dont like you because of veganism…

If you dont understand why this reply to that post is improper (as in you missed the point of the post)

>>"stomp out the evil school shooters."

>school shooters are evil, my fucking dude. you dont answer abuse with abuse. if someone bullied you, its evil to kill them. its evil to go around killing normies despite them hurting you and making fun of your virginity

Than you'll never understand why people hate you and bumplock your threads and laugh at you for being starved for internet attention


 No.315483

>>309028

damn, you are everywhere, i respect your persistence if it is genuine.


 No.315484

The effort in this thread is robot-tier for sure, but mentally unhinged and deranged.


 No.315485

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>>309028

Opie, the main cause of animal extinction is loss of habitat, not humans. Why? To make room for farms so you can eat your precious plants. What do animals need to eat and also provides oxygen for us? Plants. Stop eating all the damn plants. Pic might be unrelated.


 No.315488

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https://vocaroo.com/i/s0oUncmTY7Jv

just my thoughts on all you meat eaters. i recorded this a couple hours ago, might as well share it. it originally was for 4ch but im too lazy to bother them about it, i bother them about it plenty as it is

>>315485

>To make room for farms so you can eat your precious plants

thats not true. to make 1 kilogram of a cow you need to feed it like 20 kilograms of corn or soy. and that corn and soy had to be grown, harvested and dried and prepared for the cow

by going vegan you eliminate the cow existence, therefor eliminating it's food consumption. cows eat many times their body weight of vegetables to grow so large. if you just eat the vegetables yourself, you save a ton of water and plants grown to feed yourself. you are essentially cutting out the middle man

these cows drink a lot of water and eat a lot of vegetables, and when you go vegan you MASSIVELY reduce the amount of plants being grown and killed. its fantastic for the environment. this is what happens because of farms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7854HbH9Ro

these fucking animals are sentient and dont want to die, my dude

>>315477

>Than you'll never understand why people hate you and bumplock your threads and laugh at you for being starved for internet attention

nope. tbh people have always hated me since forever, this is par for the course


 No.315503

>>315467

>so anything that exists basically is in the laws of nature? so slavery is in the laws of nature? so torture and murder of heretical religious groups is okay because its within the laws of nature?

Yes to all of it. Nature does not judge by morals beforehand, that's a hedonistic temptation humans fell for. Nature only judges the outcomes by positive or negative consequences for the rest. Nature is designed around opposites, who must always coexist. That means we all have to struggle to uphold the balance between good and bad actions. It's your job to go against torture and murder, but you can never stop it, you can only try to enforce a moral code of behavior that is in accordance with the laws of nature and for the benefit of all. You have to understand that the laws of men are lies, designed to control us with fear. You can kill a pedophile in your community and other humans will force their controlling rules over you, but on the large scale it has a positive consequence through the laws of nature, because a predator was killed and now children have a chance to live more safely. The more people do this, the healthier the society, the less likely for a predator to emerge, and the less likely for you to go to jail for breaking rules based on lies. You have to create for the benefit of all, only then you will benefit. Any form of hedonism only brings short term gains, which will have long term negative consequences.

>if i rape and kill a girl, i benefit from it cause i bust a fat vegan nut

Hedonism. You do it for yourself, and disrupt the moral code of your community by attacking a productive member of it. This will have negative consequences for you, for her and for the community. It's thereby against the laws of nature.

>tell me, is hunting animals within the "natural laws"?

Yes, obviously life is designed in a food chain, BUT like everything else it's about constant balance. You cannot hunt animals into extinction without negative consequences, and you cannot industrialize the slavery, torture, poisoning and killing of animals for food, without destroying the animal kingdom and thereby the creating fatal consequences for the ecosystem. Natural order, balance…the good always have to fight the evil, but they can never win, because death is unavoidable.

>i could easily argue that it is natural for the wolves to kill the healthy wolf because they're hungry

A functioning wolf pack is designed to be stable, which means they are protecting their offspring, securing their territory, and thereby securing the food chain. There is no reason for them to attack each other, but they absolute could do it, which will in return have negative consequences. They chose to follow an unspoken moral code of behavior by acting "civil", because that secures their survival. Why disrupt a secured lifestyle?

>in the weaker wolf example the weaker wolf didn't want to die, so how can you tell me its natural?

Nobody wants to die, but time doesn't care about wants. Our existence is based on survival, we are constantly struggling to keep alive, while death is always trying to lure us. We cannot win, we can only pass our blood on with procreation. The weak will always be killed by the strong, and the strong will always be challenged by the weak. They cannot exist without each other, they are defined by each other.

>you can literally say that anything is natural so therefor its natural to do anything

By definition everything is natural, because everything is a part of this natural ecosystem. When it comes to the judgement of our actions, then nature only judges the outcomes. All the fake moral implications beforehand only exist in the human mind. Cats rape each other all the time and it's part of their lifestyle, humans also rape each other all the time, yet they are trying to act morally superior by condemning it. The act itself is obviously gruesome, but judging it morally has no effect on the outcome whatsoever. You can condemn it all you want, but it will continue to happen unless you act against it,a t which point you have to face the consequences. Proclaiming moral judgement from the sidelines is nothing but an excuse for your inability to act.

>i don't understand, why are you vegan?

Because I don't support the system and I don't need to eat animals to live a healthy and fulfilling life. I still have no hesitation to take a life, when it's to save my own or the ones around me. I don't act on human morality whatsoever.

>why is eating meat not in the natural order?

It is. Nothing wrong with eating meat. I just don't want to participate in a system that systematically kills life to produce poisoned food, and with billions of animals getting killed annually I also don't want to add to the numbers by producing my own livestock.


 No.315504

>>315467

>humans have killed animals for thousands of years to survive

The western civilization doesn't have to anymore, because they let others do it for them. In fact they are hiding the crime of mass production behind anonymous walls to feel better for themselves. This is completely out of the natural order.

>how is slavery not natural if it benefits me?

Hedonism is always deadly, but slavery is only a problem if it's out of balance. Like industrialize mass production that destroys every natural habitat and replaces it with slavery. You can have 60 cows on the field to feed the community and make a profit of it, but you can't own 60 cows in slavery so that you can make more money for yourself, because it will destroy your fields, destroy your community and destroy yourself in the long run.

>btw, do you think its possible that you have delusional paranoia or schizophrenia?

I'm the most down to earth person you could imagine. The thing is I speak truth with no barriers, and will call out lies wherever I see them. For a very long time now people I argue with have desperately tried to put me into categories, but they couldn't, because I'm not loyal to any label. I only stick to the truth and I have the laws of nature as a fundamental back up. But what's pissing people off the most is that I don't have anything to sell and no name to make. They can't handle truth, because they are all operating under lies, which I try to break them out off.

>"bro, everything dies, there's no escaping death, its futile. so lets me just get it over with okay?"

This is your personal justification for your action, which doesn't change the fact to you both will die. You just used reality as an excuse for yourself. The reason why humanity is so afraid of dying is because they haven't understood what life means. Humanity operates under the false assumption that they have to be rewarded at the end for the actions they are doing. That's hedonism. The price humanity is desperately trying to achieve was already given to them in the beginning…Life itself. We were born into a sandbox of wonders with the abilities to create whatever we want, just as long as we do our job of maintaining the ecosystem and following the laws of nature. There is realistically no boundaries to what we could've achieved on this earth if we realized this. This is a god like scenario that we were designed into, where we could create the most beautiful things imaginable, and we threw this all away for hedonism at the beginning when we turned against nature and started to exploit and destroy this ecosystem for short term benefits while ignoring long term consequences.


 No.315518

>>315488

For others in this thread please read this small conversation to understand eunuchs genuine mental incapabilities. His inability to understand entire posts, and only pick specific phrases and to only perform circular arguments (his "no one has provided me with any good answers") like a woman is what makes him pitiable, but because of such things, any sort of conversation or philosophy or robotic culture (see: how everyone here has hated him over the years, how he admits everyone hates him, and doesnt like posting here, but does it anyways for attention and to shill his opinions. Notice how i said shill, not discuss or ponder with the community), is wasted on him, and thus on threads he posts in. You will only get his opinion, and nothing else. Its the kind of hedonism associated with genuine autists/mentally ill (think "lolcows", modern commies, and poz ridden degenerates), he only lives and thinks within his feeble boundaries of emotion.

If you go through the thread you will see this, he always repeats the same points, the same whining about how animals have die, and emotional/shock imagery. His argument boils down to factory farms=bad and mass animals=bad for environment therefore no meat. For those who dont know (many of you posting, please leave this board thanks) eunuch is an autist who decided to perform botched surgery on himself to remove his testicles as he believed that would instantly remove his lust. Commendable autism, and he actually did it, but that changed very little as he went back to masturbating and stuffing his face with " comfort food" a short while after. This extreme set of actions (he believed there was absolutely no other way for him, that he couldnt escape his hedonism using willpower and self control. He wanted his problems to jist go away with a few snips, instead of putting in the work and discipline) followed by going back into hedonism, is only capable from special mentally invalid cases. And see how he tries to grab for attention, always lurking in thread, always replying, and now, posting his voice instead of typing his opinion like a respectable anon, social hedonism.

The genuine mentally ill are always the one you see being "lolcows" or whatever the modern term for them is, and thats because they dont understand anything outisde their own comforts, which can get pretty degenerate or detrimental to the community theyre in. Observe this phenomenon, observe and experience the wonders of true, medical grade autism

And also sage everything


 No.315519

As other vegans criticize the eunuchs arguments

So too do other robots criticize his opinions and posting

The mentally hindered can fit partly in various niches, but always stand out for one reason or another, usually negative


 No.315524

Well I don't have any problem killing animals to feed my daughter. And fuck you nigger do you feel any pain if I eat pork?


 No.315530

>>309028

I am vegan actually and the reason I started even to think about eating animals was due to my own situation where I experienced a lot of bullying, pain, loneliness, being misunderstood and unable to express myself with words (I don't think in words). So feeling empathy and solidarity to other creatures like me was the next natural step.


 No.315531

Plants feel distress and pain also. To sustain your body another living thing must be consumed there is no moral reason to be vegan.


 No.315551

>>309028

I think I have something nice to contribute to this thread, animal activists are big scammers.

I used to work with animal activists in The Netherlands and Belgium.

They manipulate their videos a lot

When you see (for example) a worker beating up a cow. That worker is almost always another animal activists. I actually saw this happening myself.

They actually have lit farms on fire (with the animals in the farm) and blamed the farmer for it.

vegans do not care about animals. they are just paws for big corporations.


 No.315558

>>315551

yeah dude for sure. vegans who campaign for animal rights dont care for animals, yet meat eaters who pay for their enslavement, torture and murder do care about animals?

meat eaters who mock the suffering of pigs and buy bacon care for pigs, but vegans who protest farms and butcheries, and who make videos advocating for animal rights dont care about animal rights?

are you fucking delusional? you're the one who financially supports the murder of these animals for your tastebuds. even if some animal rights activists are bad apples doesnt mean the movement is corrupt at the core. how fucking retarded and delusional are you?


 No.315583

>>315558

Taste is important. It's a sense we have for a reason.


 No.315590


 No.315597


 No.315598

>>315597

Search for "vegan kills baby", and you'll find cases from half a dozen countries within the first 10-20 results.

Italy has outlawed veganism for young children because it kills them.


 No.315599

>>315488

If all the vegans killed themselves immediately, imagine how much water and grain they would save.

Your CO2 emissions would spike while you rotted/were cremated, but within a short time they would be zero.


 No.315603

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0jb64tWb4Dx

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0jb64tWb4Dx

>>315597

>>315598

human breast milk is vegan you fucking RETARD. human breast milk is devoid of animal exploitation, therefor making it vegan. there are many many civilizations around the world who raised their children vegan out of strict necessity and the children turned out fine

vegetables + human breast milk is enough for children. you are pointing out minority cases, im sure there cases of bad parenting of meat eaters as well. but you have a double standard, because if a child is obese at 4 years old, its not the parents fault, its genetics, but if a vegan parent kills their child, its the diets fault. how many children died from diseases caused by meat? how come you only focus on the bad vegan parents

not to mention there are plenty of healthy vegan children, because they all suck on human breast milk, WHICH IS VEGAN you fucking mouthbreathing cross-eyed nigger

>>315599

if you'd care about the environment you'd go vegan because going vegan does significantly more good for the environment than eating meat. but you just hate because they give you a cognitive dissonance attack and you are a simple minded close minded person


 No.315621

Its completely unethical to eat meat raised from a factory. It is a completely different story to eat meat you've given a wonderful and healthy life.


 No.315622


 No.315625

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>>315622

dude these are waste products from animal feedlots that your link gives. these are not the results of the vegetables, they are a result of animal waste that comes from feedlots. they look very pretty, but they destroy the environment

this article UNIRONICALLY argues this point. i literally coppied and pasted this:

>"there is really no difference between eating plants and animals."

they also linked this picture that said it was for broccoli genocide, but in reality it was for turkeys? lol?

https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/04/27/foaming-procedure-kills-infected-turkeys-en-masse/

LOL hahahah dude did you even read the article?

i thought it was originally to debunk veganism, but i think its satire LOL. at first i took it very seriously, but the more i read the more otragiously redicious it got LOL. like it literally photophopped peanuts over baby chickens about to be killed and said that vegans dont care for peanuts males and only for female peanuts

this article is joke lol


 No.315633

Honestly keeping this thread bumplocked just laugh and poke fun at eunuch is pretty alright, keeps people busy during dry spells, although hes such a sissy for attention that he probably enjoys it like some sort of woman (hes halfway there at least). You know hes evaded multiple bans, he just keeps coming back


 No.315635

>>315633

>keeps people busy during dry spells

is everyone larping as a virgin here? am i the only virgin here?

sometimes i feel like that

also if a hell exists its filth like you who deserve to burn in it. if reincarnation exists, you deserve to reincarnate as all the pigs and cows you've eaten and laughed at. if there was any justice in this world


 No.315666

>>309049

>suffering depressed virgins, like myself

Suddenly, OP's retardation makes sense.

Fuck a hooker and eat a steak you whining faggot.


 No.315676

>>309091

My non robotic thoughts exactly


 No.315688

>>309028

Do not conflate the horror of factory farming, which I will agree is wrong, with the eating of animals.

Even plants have a degree of awareness and can communicate with each other.

Animals eat each other. We, too, are animals. Again, agree that animals should not suffer when we farm them.

It is also not a taste bud preference - our stomach volume and stomach acid ph, caloric needs and complete lack of hind gut indicates we are meat-preferring omnivores. Also, find me a successful human population that preferred plants in their diet. Hint : you cant. In all of history.

Farming plants in a monoculture has the effect of destroying ecosystems, which naturally pushes out animals and causes them to die and suffer of starvation of disease anyway.

Please, logically defend the destruction of environment to feed human caloric needs with an un-natural plant based diet.

A herd of cows on an open field - this is an ecosystem in itself. It requires no pesticides or fertilisers, and minimal suppression of other animals, plants and parts of nature.

Calorie for calorie, in terms of the human digestive system, growing a mini ecosystem of cows is more efficient and ethical than monoculture plant farming.


 No.315690

>>309091

I should have read the entire thread.

So, for your taste preference, you're okay with ordering the endless destruction of ecosystems?

You're no better. I know, for sure, that you do not know the provenance or ecological impact of the food you eat.

You look at the package : No meat? No animal products? I'm in the clear! You say.

No. Imagine a field of strawberries.

What happens if a little rabbit wants to go up and eat a few to live? Oh, shot, or poisoned.

What happens to the tiny rodents in the field when the new harvest needs to be sown? Oh, smashed up by the combine harvester.

You cant avoid being a hypocrite with this argument, since none of the food you eat is clean of animal death and suffering.

And what makes it worse is your taste preference kills and suppresses thousands of animals, and stops them from having a life at all.


 No.315793

>>315635

Look at him go! i wonder if he'll reply to this one. I hope you reincarnate as exactly who you are today, so we can enjoy your lack of self awareness in another life


 No.315795

>>315367

Whoa now. Just because you can screetch autistically at literally nothing does not make this board yours. If you want to improve it, try killing yourself first.


 No.315840

>>309036

Moist cunt


 No.315871

>>309041

Hmmm uma delicia


 No.315946

>>309056

First post on 8ch. This is well put. I was vegetarian for 12 years, 4 of those being vegan. Been eating meat since January. I feel amazing. I been having so much more sex with my wife and been feeling stronger and well more like a fucking man.

Will never go back to vegan. Sourcing quality meat is huge! You tube ex-vegan for the biggest red pill for all you vegan fags. Sv3rige channel on you tube will change most people’s opinions on veganism.


 No.315968

>>309028

please logically defend NOT eating meat.


 No.315969

>>309028

also, vegans are ignorant hypocrites, which makes them wrong because plants are more complex as organisms than you think.


 No.315970

i find it funny how the fag only posts cheap infographics, shock images, and fake quotes in order to persuade people to his side


 No.315971

>>315970

You brought me an interesting Idea.

Hey Kike Eunuch are you still there?

You seem to be quiet enthusiastic with your garbage posting. How about you follow your fellow kike masters and create an animal holocaust, something really big and cruel so that everyone will hate meat eaters. It worked once with something harder and you have it in your blood. Godspeed Kike.


 No.316023

>>309102

i figured id give you a (you) before the thread dies. im sure you've probably stopped browsing 8ch already and are far away from this point, but a (you) is still a (you)

also if you get a (you) but you never read your (you), did you still get your (you)?

>>315971

yeah im still here but all you stubborn meat eaters are all retards who cant be persuaded by logic and facts and reasoning. you simply enjoy hurting the weak and wont listen to ethical arguements. just remember, if you've ever experiences a tragedy in your life and you complain, you are a MASSIVE fucking hypocrite because you perpetuate even worse suffering unto animals


 No.316057

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>>316023

There is nothing hypocritical in treating different people differently, unless you claim to be a retarded egalitarian. You've been calling people hypocritical for 300 posts, when you don't even understand what it means


 No.316140

>>309035

> when slavery was legal blacks were not considered human

Niggers aren't human. Never were, never will be, although with high human admixture they can resemble us on some points.


 No.316221

People who approve and promote veganism are obviously just a bunch of moralfags who think that the suffering of animals makes meat unethical. But the truth is the reason meat is so delicious is because meat is derived from the bitter , sweet suffering of tasty animals.


 No.316224

>>315621

>It's more ethical to eat meat you've given a wonderful and healthy life

If anything compared to "cruel" factory procedure that's outright macabre in it's hypocrisy.


 No.316238

>>309133

>3) Eating meat is what allowed us to increase our intelligence and become human

This is false and you don't have and proof to back it up. Also this is a empty "theory" as there isn't any other example in the animal kingdom where this is the case. If you look at top intelligence among animals, it's pretty much split among omnivores and herbivores. Entire human civilization started with farming and when we started eating carbs.


 No.316260

>>309028

You cannot tell me that those light taps to wake up and relocate a generally stubborn and lazy animal are hurting it. The other shit looks like it was taken from second rate meat vendors. Diseases and open sores generally do not grant a USDA grade A ranking IIRC.

The human body technically starves to death on a vegan diet. Humans have evolved into omnivorous creatures and if deprived of flesh and oil of animals will become weakened, stupefied, and sickly. I guaran-fucking-tee you that if you go to some farmhouse in Kansas or Oklahoma you won't see the heinous "Jungle"-tier shit you see in second and third-world meat vendors.

If you wanna get mad, get mad at other countries that just outright don't care. That and Halal and Kosher slaughter as it denies the use of stun-guns to negate any chance of pain because Jews and Muslims need more suffering in there carcasses or else they think it tastes shitty.


 No.316291

>>309701

Probably because they didn't kill the cow later.


 No.316292

>>309715

vegetarian = all plants but eggs and milk and cheese and butter too

vegan = all plants only


 No.316293

>>309729

I would rather just develop my own personal sense of self control, and you kind of make vegans look insane. I'm sick of this stereotype. I'm eating vegan, but I will call myself something else. I can't associate with the name anymore.


 No.316294

>>309734

At least they tell the truth about /christian/ being corrupt.


 No.316323

>>316293

call yourself plant based. those are the people who dont want to be associated with vegans but for some reason eat like vegans

vegans for some reason are hated by everyone, idk why

>>316294

dude i honestly dont know why i even cut my balls off. i honestly think im mildly brain damaged or somethign. why did i do it again….? like sometimes i just space out for like 10 seconds and have thoughts like "oh yeah……. i cut my balls off….. why did i do that again?"

i dont even know anymore, i concede that im mentally insane. at this point my sexuality is a meme


 No.316336

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Vegans are still plant murders.

Plants have been proven to feel pain and only emit certain chemicals when exposed to stress and damage

Fructarian diet is the only way 2 go. I have been at it for 2 years and never felt better

I do enjoy still enjoy honey occasionally though


 No.316447

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>>309203

>albert jewstein quote

Fuck off eunuch kike


 No.316458

>>309091

It is the post-industrial society and improved logistics and trade that even makes it possible to go vegan. The sheer selection and availability that allows you to still get all/most of your nutrients (assuming some extra thought about the diet)

But that doesn't really matter to me. As I don't follow the philosophy that equates ALL animal lives to human lives. I hardly even care about fellow humans, let alone animals. Nor do I even think that not using any animal products is even the method to go about these things.

Sure, harm reduction is great, but I don't care nearly enough to pay more for it, as it simply does not matter in the values I have.

And as for health? Maybe eat a bit less meat, no need to fully cut it out of our diet.


 No.316507

My family runs a farm, I remember helping my dad skin a cow that stopped producing milk

I don't see a problem with killing an old heifer that's stopped producing milk, or eating her either for that matter.

I know this sounds cruel, but she's outlived her usefulness, and this way, we get a nice steak out of it.

We did feed it and tend to its injuries while it was growing up.

And in the end, it was simply like reaping the benefits from a short term investment.

You need to understand that when it comes down to it, animals are not humans.

There is a natural order to things, and humans currently stand on top of that natural order.

>these animals don't want to die, experience torture, live in a small cage their entire life, or be raped,

Most people don't choose to be born to broken families with fucked up parents, nor do they chose to die in a car accident at the age of 21, Infants don't chose to die of SIDS.

We don't get to choose the hand we are dealt in life, neither do these animals.

They're born destined to be slaughtered? Tough luck.

But we can at least make the most of that death by enjoying what they eventually become.

Why do I need to logically defend my dietary habits to you anyways?


 No.316530

>>309028

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vegan-baby-starve-parents-sweden-gothenburg-a8927991.html

>vegan means cows are more important than human babies.

Search for "baby dies vegan", results from half a dozen countries where parents have been arrested for killing their own babies with vegan diets and vegan-mother breast-milk, with insufficient nutrition, because humans aren't herbivores.


 No.316532

>>309203

Why do /trannypol/ kikes always write the exact same things in the exact same way in every thread they post in.

>abloo albloo - for crying.

Is that the israeli way of writing crying? Which country does that come from?

>jooz

Always written in the same way, they must have difficulty with the English spelling, and can't quite understand why it would be written with an 'ew'.


 No.316533

>>309936

post more of these pictures

furry scat is the pinnacle of culture


 No.316534

>>309935

see >>316532

More /tranny/


 No.316535

>>309206

Note the JDF current tactic of brainwashing is to push immigrant crime and try to make a false association between that and factory farming.

The jew will talk in circles for as long as it has an audience.

The real answer is mass immigration to israel from subsaharan africa, and forced veganism for everyone in israel.


 No.316624

Your (((evidence))) isn't proof that eating animals is wrong.

It is proof that judaism is wrong.


 No.316636

I like veganism, when i grew up schools had to serve on vegan meal (out of three total) a day but whenever anyone went for the vegan food the cooks came out and told you that you need milk bread and meat and cheese and eggs otherwise you will get sick and stop in growth.

Now i eat 2 vegan meals a week, 2 chicken and 2 fish and one red meat. Lost 13 kg last 2 years and feel fine, 3 kg left to my optmal weight 78kg.

Noticed that the 1000 meters steep climb bicycling to work has gone from close to needing medicare to virtually nothing.


 No.316715

>>309028

Although this might sound like a religious response, it is not. It predates Christianity. It is the science (theology in its infancy) and logic (suppressed nowadays) of the ancient Greeks, with complete logical proofs, from 350BC. Aristotle resolved the issues that Plato couldn't, and wrote 31 volumes, a complete treatise.

This is the truth is Western Civilisation for 2,350, up to the beginning of the 20th century, when thought and science were perverted, sabotaged. No amount of your insanity can destroy the truth.

======

The first problem is, you are not fully human, you do not know what it means to be a human being. And then, in that sub-human (animal normative, bestial) state, you relate to animals more than you do humans. Qualifying questions:

1. Do you have a soul ?

__Yes = you are a human or animal

__ No = you are more primitive than humans and animals

__ Don't Know = you are more primitive than humans and animals, and can't be bothered to resolve the issue

2. Is your soul immortal ?

__Yes = you are a human BEING

____ Human souls have a final residence in eternity, which is their purpose

____ Animal souls are mortal, not immortal … they have no purpose in eternity

__ No = you are an animal plus an intellect (a very damaged one)

__ Don't Know = you are more primitive than humans and animals, and can't be bothered to resolve the issue

======

The second problem is, in your bestial state, you give animals human attributes and faculties /that they do not have/. Such as "sentient being". Animals are sentient, which means they have the faculty of the five senses, some more than others. Beings are spirit (immortal) creatures, which are only angels and human BEINGS. Spirit is immortal because it cannot be killed. A [spirit] being has:

a. Intellect (reason, abstraction, conceptualisation, …)

b. Will (power to choose) (love is an act of the Will)

c. Personhood (sense of Identity, self-reflective consciousness)

Beings also have the capacity for feelings, which are unreliable and of little importance.

So, yes, animals are "sentient" to the degree of their position, lower/higher order, in the taxonomy, as long as you do not anoint "sentient" with some magical quality.

And no, animals are not "sentient beings". They have not a shred of being-ness in them, nothing of (a)(b)(c). Instead they have instinct and nature, urges to pro-create. Immediacy, like you, not reason to delay gratification.

The purpose of man is to reside in heaven. So what is the purpose of animals ? Primarily to serve and feed man, and secondarily to teach man (we learn something about the nature of the universe by watching animals). That is why we have dominion (including responsibility to be humane) over them.

======

Third, you have this idiotic idea that if you say something, it is twoo. It isn't. It is shit from a sub-human. The only place that it is twoo is in your deformed cranium, and then only for a short duration. All real truth is permanent, and does not need support, it stands on it own.

Some egs:

__ "murder" = No, one can only murder a person. It is not possible to "murder" an animal. It is possible to kill an animal, and some are edible.

__ "hypocrite" = No, a person is not a hypocrite just because you say so, a person is a hypocrite if they satisfy the dictionary definition.

__ "compassion" = No, it is normal to feel compassion for other human beings. One cannot feel compassion for animals. Whatever it is that you are feeling for animals (species kinship ? equality ? same loss of purpose as an animal ?) is not compassion.

____ No, compassion (all feelings) are not in the brain, they are eslewhere in the body, and fleeting (no organ is required to host them)

____ No, brains do not grow, you nutcase. You have as many brain cells as you are born with. Brain cells are the only cells in the body that do not regenerate. But they can shrink, due to insanity; dementia; drugs; alcoholism; etc.

__ "ethics" = No. Ethics are created by man, and are forever changing. I have morals, which are permanent.

Keep your ever-changing (which means false) pseudo-science and anti-science to yourself.

======

Fourth, I do not have a problem that you refuse to eat the meat and meat products that are provided for your health. I do not have a problem that you relate to animals and cannot relate to humans. Knock yourself out. Fuck them if you like. Now that homosexuality has been decriminalised by your kind, the next step is bestiality and coprophagy, which has already started, the decriminalisation of which has commenced in some Western countries.

But I do have a problem with you trying to get us undamaged, sane, people to think like you, that what you fink is froo is froo for everyone. Eat shit and die.


 No.316716

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>>316715

If you were human, you would concern yourself (have compassion) with the millions of humans who are starving; or who live without medicine or electricity; or are homeless in Western countries. But you have no compassion, you have only feelings for animals.

You are so retarded, and in so denial of nature, you do not understand that the entirety of it is predator animals killing and eating prey animals. Millions of animals are killing and eating tens of millions of animals EVERY SINGLE DAY. If you had half a human brain (instead of the animal one you have), you would realise that you can be far more successful in your idiotic endeavours, by killing a few predators, in order to "save" the far more numerous prey animals from horrific slow death and ingestion while alive.

But no, you would rather focus on telling human beings what to think.

======

> have you been inside a slaughter house?

Yes.

Actually, I slaughter all the animals that I kill for meat.

I kill them humanely.

> have you personally killed a pig that was very nice and cuddly to you 5 minutes ago?

Pig, goat, deer, rabbit kangaroo, wallaby, yes. All the time. Excellent meat, no cholesterol, no hormones, no fat, all free range.

This is a Sambhar stag in prime condition, taken in the Victorian Alps. Examine it. Notice the perfect bullet placement, so that it bleeds out and dies quickly. (The ignorant think that a head shot is best, but the brain is too small a target at any reasonable range, allowing for a shot that does not kill, but the lungs are a nice large target, and guarantee death.) Nice fine layer of fat. The antlers are in velvet, and only half grown, meaning I was hunting for meat, not trophies. I had just started butchering it. 83 kilos. Fed two families for a month, gave away choice cuts to about ten other families.

That particular death was far more humane than from being killed and eaten whilst alive by a prey animal (leopard; tiger), or dying or "natural causes" which means slow agonised starvation over a long period. I have shot a couple of withered stags, and examined the carcasses. I have also seen quite a few animals that have fallen into holes; etc, that they couldn't get out of, and starved to death.

======

Now fuck off and eat or don't-eat what you want, live your sub-human, purpose-less life as you wish. But do not attempt to tell full human beings what to think or what to do. If I ever wanted to live a sub-human life like yours, full of feelings, in schizophrenic denial of Reality, and avoid my eternal purpose, I will ask for your advice, believe me. Promise.


 No.316717

>>316507

> You need to understand that when it comes down to it, animals are not humans.

Exactly. The vegans think and operate at an animal level, not a human level.

> Why do I need to logically defend my dietary habits to you anyways?

Exactly.

Since OP is proposing a new way of thinking, the onus is on it to supply the logic and proofs, not on us to justify what we have being doing since we lived in caves.


 No.316718

>>316716

>that was very nice and cuddly to you 5 minutes ago?

I don't cuddle animals (they are filthy … dogs lick each others assholes … ticks, fleas, etc). I cuddle only humans and then only small one or my wife. I do however, form relationships with all the animals that I conserve. Not the kind you have but normal human-animal relations. Eg. the science of animal husbandry; the science of roo conservation (for culling); rather more closely with horses that I ride. With this deer, I had a personal and passionate relationship with it for the hour or so that I stalked it and confirmed it would be a good productive (meat) kill. After the shot, I thanked the bastard for giving me its flesh.


 No.316719

>>309099

I grew up in the country. We mostly shopped for food at the nearest town, but we had a full vegetable garden and a chicken coop. When we had guests, mum would send me out to fetch a chicken or three. That meant chopping off their heads with an axe, carefully, so that they did not cause a commotion and alarm the guests.

We had about 200 chooks. I formed a personal relationship with each and every one, giving each an unique name. The only problem was, none of them knew their names, or knew how much each of them meant to me. So I killed the bastards, one by one.


 No.316750

Insect protein is the way to go.


 No.316765

I eat meat because your mom does. Just as she eats ass and cock from wherever she can get it - regardless of whether it will give her AIDs or not. that's why you're here.




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