/r9k/ - ROBOT∞

Maybe their just attractive it 7/10 but when hanging out with you it bumps up their "status"

iunno maybe when you talk to people like your already friends so they feel comfortable with you

Ummm… Does it have something to do with being attractive? Maybe having confident body language, dressing well? I realized that people are influenced a lot by how you look.

You say that people didn't even get to know them and would already like them? Maybe they were interesting, fun people.

Hardly seems like it matters. I can guarantee the road to happiness isn't other people.

>>98815

No shit. My point is that, speaking as someone that has a little charisma, popularity is not going to make you happy. It's not going to fix any of your problems. As a matter of fact the older and more bitter I get the more I'm starting to think happiness isn't even something you can achieve if you're as abnormal as most robots, it's something you're born being consistently capable of or not. I literally haven't experienced joy in years.

>>98791

my older brother also has the "Bill Clinton disease" but hes a normy and only has smidgen of edgelord in him against women

I think its because hes handsome and smiles a lot

your friend and ex-BF are probably just really attractive miserable people, I mean one of them got you to suck their cock

They were raised right and/or learned.

>>98820

First, stop avatafagging, it's gay as Hell. Second, it wouldn't be a bad thing, but like I said it's going to fix precisely zero of your actual problems. There's no reason to chimp out about not having 'charisma' because happiness through popularity is a fake idea.

>>98848

What the hell are you even doing here, you literal faggot? If you're going to act like a bitch then go back to 4chan.

>>98848

Listen you namefagging little faggot, if the biggest problem in your life is that you're unpopular then my envy for you is deep and abiding and I legitimately wish you ill. FUCK you.

again, it's probably the result of lifelong abuse.

some of the most prolific serial killers were considered very charismatic.

This thing is always learned and my general perception of this issue is that it is almost always a result of lacking empathy or general apathy. Social interaction becomes some sort of game and games are played to be won.

The key is making people feel good about themselves when they are in your presence. People need to look up to you for this to work. Good grades or a special talent, really anything that can make you look special and individual. People are drawn to characters, so you got to be a character.

The main ingredients to make this all work are wit, indifference, humor and appreciation. You should at least look normal. Basic hygiene and clean looks are important.

There's also another thing. Getting along with people or getting close to people and getting to know new people are two different skill sets. Having a companion that introduces you to new social circles may be necessary.

>>98802

that faggot sounds so much like me except the faggot part.

>drunk

>lived in car

>mallgoth

>pulled bitches

>>98874

>Having a companion that introduces you to new social circles may be necessary

It's absolutely necessary, you're fucked if you ever hit 0 friends, especially if you're NEET. Decaying social ability and increasing social anxiety until you're just an autistic shell of a person, and there's nothing you can do about it. >tfw

Every single person I've seen on here who has ever written about their experience with transcending robothood to becoming semi-capable in social situations, had done so because they had an existing friend/cousin/whoever that invited them out one day, and then things built up from there. The robots without friends however, I've never heard of one making it. Even if they claim to be friendless, it's always some bullshit like "i have no REAL friends" or "well i have friends but i don't like any of them so they don't count".

Seeing how desperate everyone in here wants to know why they aren't loved, I've got the bright idea of opening a business that specializes in treating the socially abnormal, or maybe a shrink could do that? hmm

If the second guy was your boyfriend, shouldn't the answer be obvious?

If you were in love with him, had strong feelings for him, or were just in it for the sex, there was SOMETHING that drew you to him. Even if you're bitter towards him after your break up, you were drawn to him enough so that you put up with his dysfunctions for however long you were together.

Think about why that was and then extrapolate it onto other people.

>>98791

>You ever notice, some people - even Robots and losers - have that special kind of 'charisma' that makes others - even normalfags - like them and want to be their friends, lovers, etc.?

I am one of those people. It's awful and it makes me anxious as fuck. Whenever I meet someone new they want to get close to me, and for a few months or so we shoot the shit and "I just LOVE you, Anon you're just SO funny!" Eventually it has to progress into a real friendship, but I have no fucking clue how to be a friend. I sense that they want more out of me and start avoiding them out of anxiety, or else they sense that I can't give any more and just fuck off to go be someone else's emotional parasite. To be honest though, it's gotten better since I became an adult. More and more as I get older, people don't want anything more out of a relationship than to shoot the shit at work. Still a friendless virgin though, and don't see that ever changing.

OP, you seem to think that your problem is that you just can't draw people in. Did you ever stop to think of how you would make them stay if you did manage to draw them in? It's a full time job, and "charisma" doesn't stop someone from being dogshit at it. The fact that you've had someone you consider a friend tells me that you're doing better than I am.

>my ex-bf

[obligatory OP is a fag post here]

>>98875

Fuck off normie scum

>>98888

It seems like all your relationships tend to stay superficial, because you want friends for the sake of having friends and not because you want to be friends with that one person you're interacting with. Being entirely reactionary will never work out in your favor. You need to give and you need to take, otherwise you will appear as someone untouchable and independent and they will think that you don't need them.

I think this is something you can certainly fix though, it just needs time.

>>98891

meant reactive, not reactionary.

yeah its called luck, you're born with it or without it.

all normies are born with it.

>>98802

>what do they have that makes people want to be with them, that I lack?

Well, in the least, you seem to lack self awareness, considering you can't even tell what attracted you to your boyfriend.

>>98791

>The second example was my ex-bf.

>had a bunch of mental issues, homosexual

OP, you kinda seem conflicted

>Nobody talks to me: nobody has ever tried to be my friend, or come up to me and told me they liked me; people ignore me. Nobody has ever fought for my attention, or asked for me.

You seem kinda cute, OP. I would like to know you better.

Charisma is usually the ability to project confidence and make people believe you are the best.

Chads naturally have this ability.

>>98985

Is that you lucy

>>98791

Are you a girl or a faggot?

>My question is: how can people like that even 'suffer', when people actively try to interact with them?

Lets just say that Robots who can fake normalcy or have a certain 'charm' (Which is often more of a passing interest from normalfags along "Wow I never met someone like you" lines) get dragged further into social situations then you might, true. Before the novelty feel that you give off runs out you might even be strangely popular for some hours.

But trust me, in the end all we mostly manage is to charge our spaghetti up for one almighty drop later.

With the added bonus of having wasted hours with feeling all alone while in a damn crowd of fucks who are supposed to be "friends" but you still have shit all connection to.

>>98862

He's right though, what makes one happy depends of the person. Maybe people IS what would make him happy if he could have it.

>>98791

>Charisma

I never understood that either i met normalfags multiple times and all i did was make edgy comments or not speak at all then they at some point say i'm cool when in reality i was just being autistic in a corner

>>98882

you can't treat bad luck.

being socially successful is pretty much 100% luck that you need to have all the way from age 0 to 18, environment, people that will surround you, and other conditions that are all outside of your control. If these combine in certain ways you end up being sociable, and if they don't, you're fucked, you dont learn to socialize beyond age 18.

also, shrinks are the worst people to ever exist, you have to pay them for them to pretend they care and if basic stuff doesn't work, they'll pill the shit out of you, because they're in cahoots with the big pharma industry.

>>98791

>The two of the examples I gave have always claimed to be "depressed" and "suicidal", but in my opinion, they can go fuck themselves.

In my opinion, so can you. You have probably way less reasons to suffer than a starving orphaned street urchin.

i keep seeing tabs of this thread i have opened but yet to reply to so here it is:

autism vs bipolar/borderline

one is robot, the other is straight retarded asshole

I'm the guy that mallgoth, drank a lot, and pulled bitches (autism) because I was doing some sort of drug-induced act (protip faggots: drinking doesn't just affect your brain while you're drunk) which had an effect on my nonexistent personality during my years of use.

Since being clean I really don't have much of a personality.

But those attention seeking charismatic people are usually the biggest of drug users, doing anything from crack to heroin and meth. How many spergs do you hear of doing fucking dope? Usually the drugs match or enhance the personality, at first anyways. there you have it

>charisma

Listen to people when they talk, be interested in what they're interested in, fucking smile when you're talking.

When you go into a conversation like a self hating robofaggot people recognize you as a self hating robofaggot.

>My question is: how can people like that even 'suffer', when people actively try to interact with them?

Because loneliness isn't the only source of suffering.

>You ever notice, some people - even Robots and losers - have that special kind of 'charisma' that makes others - even normalfags - like them and want to be their friends, lovers, etc.?

I have it tbh

>The second example was my ex-bf.

Whats stopping you from putting a shotgun into your mouth and shooting it, fag

>>98874

>The main ingredients to make this all work are wit, indifference, humor and appreciation. You should at least look normal. Basic hygiene and clean looks are important.

I'm not witty or funny

>>110631

Oh, here we go.

The final authority has spoken.

Great /thread guys

Good read though, I wrote this earlier today and it's along the same lines without the whole failing part.

>>110560

>>98985

>Validate all their thoughts and feelings no matter how wrong they may be. Cry when they cry, laugh when they laugh. Never fail to offer your support.

I bet not many can see trough your bullshit, but those that do would actually pity you.

I'd actually say I have that charisma. I've never made any enemies besides the run of the mill bullies. I'm generally very well-spoken, can easily pick up social cues, and can assess a situation accordingly if something gets out of hand. People like me, and I could very easily make loads of friends with little effort, but I like being alone.

Wow this thread is brimming with faggots and normies, yall should kill yourselves tbh

You don't know shit about the real robot life

I thought I had that charisma.

Maybe I did, 5+ years ago, but isolation had ruined it.

I'm universally despised it seems. I don't know how to be around people and I'm mean and a bully.

>>98791

>don't give a shit about attention from others

>get it

>desperately crave attention from others

>don't get it

>2 + 2 = ????

>>98791

>Nobody talks to me

Have YOU tried talking to people or befriend them?

With an attitude like that, no wonder you have no Charisma, because you aren't reaching out to people. You are misguided in thinking people always flock to the charismatic ones - they themselves make clear signs that they want to open contact and people approach each other.

tl;dr - OP is a narcissistic shut-in cunt

its called good looks

>>98888

>people care about you and want to be closer friends with you

>call them emotional parasites

man, seriously fuck you

>tfw friend I know through mtg is traditionally attractive and "handsome" looking

>is a literal sperg but has had a gf for at least a year and has an active social life

>meanwhile i'm "the funny guy" whenever we're out but almost no one takes an interest in me beyond that

At least no one knows i'm a virgin.

I'm a fat neckbeard but people keep treating me so well and trying to be my friend. I keep getting free stuff and people will tell me absolutely everything even after I insult them. Every few months a girl will flirt with me but I have to reject them because they are normal.

I don't think it is about looks because when I infrequently post pictures online I get shat on for it and generally that person cuts off contact. I also have a motor disorder that causes me to move in a very bizarre fashion and makes me sound extremely drunk at all times. After much thought I have decided the most likely factor is total lack of fear. I do not give a shit what other people think about me. I tell them exactly what I feel. I have no issue with wading into a group of people to tell them something or other. Also I am completely faceblind and act like people are my friends because there is a chance they are and I don't realize it yet.

>>116337

U JUS GOTA B URSELF