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 No.1646

To explain why the occasion is far from a momentous one where I'm concerned, I wrote a 2 page letter to my mother that conveys my unhappiness at an anniverserial celebration that only commemorates the passage of redundant time in a completely desecratory way as to only symbolize my failure.
My schizophrenic thoughts and feelings resurge several times in the piece and I'm worried that if I give this to my mother, that she will call A&E to commit me again, but if I don't, I feel as if I'm continuing to suppress my true sentiments for the sake of falsely impressing a sense of sanity (from "sanitation" as in mental hygiene; appearing to be an oblivious, happy, normalfag retard makes me feel weak.)

Vid semi-related; a black man's schizophrenic word salad which should give you an idea of how disorganised my own thinking is at times.

 No.1649

>>1646
> in a completely desecratory way as to only symbolize my failure.
Where did you get this out of the traditional birthday celebrations? It's just a celebration of age that literally everyone participates in because everybody grows old and has birthdays.

You ought to just explain the feelings to your mother. Perhaps if you were committed you'd be able to get some more help, and you could also discuss the possibility of being Schizotypal and other things to people that will listen and know how to help. I also hate those Schizophrenia videos. When I was in AP Psychology, I was deep into conspiracies and paranoia and I was terrified that I could perhaps have Schizophrenia because my teacher's "word salad" example was a guy discussing that he felt like he was being watched by the feds in a way similar to the stuff I was reading online. Those videos are scaremongering, man.

 No.1655

>>1649
In a traditional birthday celebration, the ceberatant is typically a normalfag with the path of resistance on the easiest mode possible allowing him the swiftest and most scenic route to success. I'm not a traditionally middle-class upbrought normalfag with psychologically sane parents who properly cared about his well-being, they were parasites who bred children merely for their own ends (tax credit and child benefit among other things) and this reflects itself in the unrelenting psychological and verbal abuse which had been so instrumental in demotivating my self-esteem to the degree where I'd regarded myself so worthless that it was inevitable that I'd slip into sanity in order to escape this notion (yes yes go on your little feminist rant about how 'refrigerator mother' theory for mental illness is 'misogynist'), though it is inevitably unavoidable as a conclusion just from my very surroundings.

I'd been committed three times last year, and the only thing they were interested in was scapegoating all of my foibles on Aspergers (because it's really that horrible and heartless of a condition guys, it's not because of our third-tier toilet B'nai-B'ritish-communist education which hasn't taught us to distinguish somebody cold from somebody distant, or that neither of those things in any case are autism! –erm, no the former is not misandrist propaganda!). If they're uninterested in properly interepreting my symptoms, I'm uninterested in their dilettantish posturing of 'expertise'.

I used to think my mirror was bugged by the trolls on Tinychan in order to give themselves a live feed of my life so that the PVCC – in reality a trolling crew run by a stupid autistic tranny from the Midlands, but in my mind a Jewish, Mossad conspiracy who had ties to Cohen and Jason Scott – could not only profit off the proceeds, but conjure up their counter-arguments to my exposé of their conspiracy (which were all completely incogent and incoherent gibberish, btw) in addition, to which I imagined they were so retarded to me in comparison (grandiosity) that they needed 'battlefront intelligence' to supplement their negroidic ingenuity deficit.

Besides, the only treatment is anti-psychotics and you should know what happened the last time, as I told you.

 No.1656

>>1655
celebretant*

 No.1657

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Here's another of my favourite schizophrenia videos:

 No.1658

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Here's part 2 of the aforementioned video:

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>>1655
I'm gonna fix your statement for you and reword it so that it's correct.

"In a traditional birthday celebration, the celebrant is typically literally any person who grows a year older, regardless of their race, gender, creed, income, happiness, etc."

The rest of your word salad is completely irrelevant to the topic of your birthday, which if you're 5 hours ahead as well, should have been an hour or so ago (Happy Birthday~~). I'm also not a feminist but I'm not a misogynist either, nor am I paranoid. I am sorry your parents were shitty people allegedly. I have not heard of the refrigerator mother theory so I am not going to comment on it.

The good thing about therapists is that if you dislike their diagnosis, you can switch until you find one who actually listens to you and is willing to diagnose you with something other than Aspergers, which is clearly NOT your only mental illness.

You haven't tried every antipsychotic, therefore you cannot rule them out.

When I was first depressed, they put me on something, I dunno my mind keeps popping back to "Klonopin" but I know it wasn't a Benzo since I used to be paranoid about the government trying to mind control it's populace using pharmaceuticals (and I also knew it was an addictive drug and I was uninterested in them whatsoever). Alright, after a quick google search it was "Celexa". Anyhow, after they put me on Celexa I was sleeping around 16-20 hours if left alone (if my anxiety would let me go to sleep), lost like 10 lbs, had some other issues I won't delve into and most of all it just made me worse. My psychiatrist almost sent me to a mental institution but thankfully I managed to talk my way out of it.

Point being, they switched me onto a different medication, Zoloft, and I did fine with only like one or two minor side effects. Both are SSRIs. You have no clue how one antipsychotic might differ from another, they're all made with different things, so you have to keep trying man.

Also, it's funny that you bring Gerald into the picture because my AP Psychology teacher genuinely had us watch this video.

 No.1677

>>1659
It's correct only from the psychotropically-intoxicated, cognitive-behavioural-therapeutically-modified, psychiatric-dictatorship worldview of liberal-totalitarianism, which wants to moderate all hues of emotion so that nothing bares significance anymore, placing you in a state of permanent denialism ala Que Sera Sera.

I've studied the pharmacology of anti-psychotics and something occurred to me in the logic of how this treatment was supposed to work. If anti-psychotics inhibit dopamine's uptake (antagonizes it) by dopamine receptors in neurons, then that must imply there is a dopamine excess. Dopamine should be measurable right? Oh, wait, you're telling me the entire basis for you determining whether I'm mentally ill is a symptomal checklist? Oh gee…

So you see, therein lies my philosophical and scientific contention with the use of drugs when the right instrument for its analysis isn't even available to us (an intra-spinal-fluid measure of dopamine levels available in the brain).

When you combine that with the fact that it has a track record worse than placebo and a side-effects profile to match, you wonder whether it's just the accumulation of side-effects to fight with more "medication" that is the end goal of the psychiatrist: to get you on a merry-go-round of polypharmia.

 No.1680

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>It's correct only from the psychotropically-intoxicated, cognitive-behavioural-therapeutically-modified, psychiatric-dictatorship worldview of liberal-totalitarianism, which wants to moderate all hues of emotion so that nothing bares significance anymore, placing you in a state of permanent denialism ala Que Sera Sera.
Not bothering to try and translate this because you threw a bunch of sensible words together to make something completely gibberish.

>Oh, wait, you're telling me the entire basis for you determining whether I'm mentally ill is a symptomal checklist?

It's not like they're gonna go into your brain and extract shit to determine the levels of dopamine you have, man. They've gotta try somehow.

>right instrument for its analysis

Even if it isn't due to dopamine excess, if it makes you feel better then just let it happen. Tbh they wouldn't prescribe you anything that could hurt you, they're licensed professionals.

>a side-effects profile to match

All medicines have side effects

>the end goal of the psychiatrist

Dude all your psychiatrist wants is for you to feel better so she can go home and sleep instead of having to constantly be told she's an evil, jewish federal agent who is trying to poison her patients (I'm sure she hears that on a daily basis tbh)

Just try taking new meds and if they don't work out, get back to me.

 No.1682

>>1680
They follow a logic alien to you because the psychiatry that's portrayed by mainstream Jewsmedia isn't the psychiatry that developed and gradually warped itself over the course of history. To say it was "trial and error" that brought nearly all its discoveries – and not just the one odd invention here or there as with other fields – would understate the degree of dumb luck involved in modern psychopharmaceutical's founding.

The point stands which you haven't disproven: psychiatry's not a science and certainly not even 'medicine' where it's application as an art is concerned. That would imply it had real methods of medicinal analysis beyond a superficial checklist, and that any degree of genuinely profound or nuanced interpretation is involved in reaching conclusions even based on such a checklist. Psychiatry was frequently regarded the science 'medical professionals' who weren't cut out for real medicine had been consigned to in their inability to get accepted into proper programmes.

All medicines have side effects; psychiatric medicines don't even compete with placebo controls.

The end goal of psychiatry which can be logically deduced from the inefficacy of medicines is that the very objective they wish to reach is to make you suffer from as many side-effects as possible, giving them ample opportunity to diagnose more fake disorders. It's a vicious circle.

I won't bother. I've frankly had a better experience even with natural medicine (and I'm not even talking about illicit herbs).

 No.1686

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This is Bob.

He uses language in such a loose way that it reminds me of me during my worst at 2012-14.

 No.1688

>>1686
>an average of 195 at bowling
an average.. damn that's good. if i fluked i'd still max out before 160.

 No.1689

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>>1682
>They follow a logic alien
Like an illegal immigrant or as in "ayy lmao"
>psychiatry's not a science
It's a medical specialty, so yes it is.
>certainly not even 'medicine' where it's application as an art is concerned
Um, no, it, it actually is medicine.

>beyond a superficial checklist

Well geez, all doctors check to see if you have symptoms. If the diagnosis is unclear, they do further testing. That is how it works, Autphag.

>nuanced interpretation is involved in reaching conclusions

Nuanced interpretation is also involved in your counter-argument but you don't see me bringing it up every time.

> who weren't cut out for real medicine had been consigned to in their inability to get accepted into proper programmes.

Maybe, I dunno, they just had a passion for psychiatry? Maybe it interested them? For example, maybe they enjoyed watching videos of Schizophrenics, you never know. :^)

> I've frankly had a better experience even with natural medicine

Then try it.

 No.1700

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>>1689
Saying "psychiatry is a science because it's a medical specialty and it's a medical specialty because it's a science" is called a circular logical fallacy, and is also loosely related to a fallacy of false authority. Look them up.
Anybody with an >110 IQ (who isn't already on neurotoxic, consciousness-dulling psychotropics) should be able to see through that.

The checklist was developed before the investigation of symptoms' causes ever began during the era of Freud's contemporaries. If the diagnosis is unclear, they reference more unscientifically drafted checklists (unscientific because they draft the checklists before testing their claims with the intent of 'proving' it when the scientific method should, and does, work in the reverse direction for all other forms of medicine). Is that what you're telling me? Then you clearly don't understand what it is they're doing xD

You've missed my point about nuanced interpretation. You took a sentence fragment (grasping at straws, another fallacy) and then discarded the rest of my sentence. In real psychoanalytics, that was before psychiatry masqueraded as a science and was still an esoteric alternative medical form, a detailed life history is taken in order to trace traumatic causes of neurotic and psychotic phenomena.

Psychiatrists condense that in the space of a checklist which results in etiological reductionism (trivialization of the cause, in other words).

Psychiatrists go into the profession because 1. intellectual mediocres are attracted to its simplicity ("talk about vague feelings while pretending to have a wide base of knowledge entirely rote-memorized from etiological descriptions of diagnostic criteria") and 2. a lot of the entrants into that programme had already a few years of actual medical school under their belt, and couldn't crack it.

Relatively few people actually go into studying the field of psychiatry directly from secondary school, my own psychiatrist even told me.

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>>1700
I've been procrastinating responding to this for ages simply because I just cbf to write another novel explaining why you're wrong.

Since you can't seem to grasp a basic understanding of psychiatry and want to mold the word to fit your definition, I'll give you a simple link that very basically explains these concepts that you cannot wrap your mind around:

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychiatry

You're welcome Autphag~

 No.1814

>>1703
I've not visited in days but before you'd set me off on one, I had a response which I've just remembered.

http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

>It is an answer to the question: is there a way to tell whether a concept or theory is science, as opposed to some other kind of knowledge or belief?


Protip: psychiatry fails this test. There's no way to tell its constituent hypotheses apart from fiction. Now feel free to ban me 54m50n, I'm ready to retch just thinking about this spinster.



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