/r9trip/ - The Complete Robot

>>1870
Being this much of a moron hardly affords you a position to dissent with legitimacy.

Stop Legion Faggotymously posting on /cow/. Cheers.

>>1891
Take your anti-hallucinogenic meds. When I accused you of doing this, I was actually counting you and Moss as one entity, seeing as you've now conjoined into a singular, equally mindless entity.

Moss will recede into a defensive mode of feigned indifference towards my accusations to cover up his shit. That's a given.

I wasn't actually convinced it was him, nor was I convinced you were tag-teaming with him, until he deployed that inane 'special snowflake' rhetoric to dismiss my ideas. He's done this once before on YouTube to another autist. Here's what amuses me about the irony of such a claim:

He would be wiser than to role-play the pseudointellectual – and accuse others of doing it – when being retarded himself, the next time he engages in such a hilariously repetitive stimming routine. The only reason he wants to place himself in the good, Uncle Tom, deferential-autist category, is so that he himself can feel exceptional. It's why he turned about-face in political orientation from left to a form of neotradcon in the first place. He really is an insipid fuck, and I can't help but roll around in an autistically spasmodic giggle myself, thinking about the kind of rage that could've compelled him to rail against me rather angstfully on /cow/!

I personally can't wait until either of you two, as will be inevitable from the side-effects of SSRIs, kill yourselves.

>>1900
Okay, while it's generally conventional to expect redundancy in pronouns, I'm rather humiliated by my first sentence. Blame short-term memory loss. I made a mistake in taking too many aromataze inhibitors.

But hey, I enjoy the renewed sense of energy that I feel.

>>1895
In case you didn't get the hint, I wanted to be banned, so I'm breaking a rule such that you'd be forced to enforce it. This should've been obvious to someone even of your caliber.

I don't mind if you refuse to enforce your rule to make a point of how impotent I am. It just shows that, in cutting your nose off to spite your face, I've managed to pull your balls over a barrel.

>>1904
Niceties are superficial acts adumbrating behind them psychopathological archetypes. Ginger knows this, I know this, anybody who is either perceptive, has fair grounding in psychiatry prior to the Frankfurt school, or both, will find such an act completely transparent.

When I'm a cunt, it's because I'm brutally sincere. Deal.

>>1917
when we even hint at being cunts, or tired of your shit, you pull out every trick in the book to pathologise us.
honestly? i laughed at how delusional you are to think i'd waste time talking or even thinking about you after you lost your shit over me not bending to your shitty ultimatum over me and savvy staying in contact.
i only visited cow to check on how far your last thread was to getting bumped off the board, then put it behind me.
take a look in the mirror. you're the one who can't let go and feels this persistent urge to shit stir.

>>1918
>when we even hint at being cunts, or tired of your shit, you pull out every trick in the book to pathologise us.
As you try far harder to qualify your cuntishness than I do. Especially you, in retrospect. This is probably the most toxic manifestation of your bourgeois upbringing.
>honestly? i laughed at how delusional you are to think i'd waste time talking or even thinking about you after you lost your shit over me not bending to your shitty ultimatum over me and savvy staying in contact.
Yet here you are, doing it now, like the self-unaware autist you are.
>i only visited cow to check on how far your last thread was to getting bumped off the board,
Don't worry, that shit is archived for all time immemorial even when bumped off the board.
>take a look in the mirror.
I do. I see a man scarred by the microaggresions of his detractors.
>you're the one who can't let go
No shit, because I'm not the one having his subconscious and conscience suppressed with SSRIs to make him a seconary pseudo-psychopath. You're just an edgy shit who wants an ego to compensate for the fact that he's a spasmodic fuck.
>and feels this persistent urge to shit stir.
Preytell what rationalization you shall conjure to deny having done the same by way of this very post.

>>1917
I don't even know why you involved Ginger in the first place since she's clearly an outsider. I also find it funny how much you claim to hate neurotypical women yet if one panders to your desires you'll do whatever you can to attempt to try and mold their thinking in order to suit yours. Quite frankly, Ginger is probably going to outright disagree with me for this next bit, which is to be expected, however using her for your own gain is just shameful and downright humiliating. If you have any shred of decency or respect for her, you'd leave her out of the conversations.

When you're a cunt it's because you're "brutally sincere" but any time anyone else expresses honesty, we're "hurr illuminazi mind readers out to get you!!!"

You're the narcissist thinking that we're so focused on you. Like I said, you were happily out of our lives after being banned.

Quite frankly, I think you're upset that you're not receiving the same attention that we initially gave you. I think you thrive on attention and project it onto others (especially women) because you're in a hugbox type environment where people are more inclined to agree with the male based on his gender rather than the merit of what he has to bring to the table. I think the reason that you came back is not because you have any feelings regarding either of us, I mean after all I've seen you when you are frustrated and you're unable to properly formulate an argument, you go on a spergrage and have to cool down. I've seen it happen multiple times. Therefore, you're not upset anymore, and clearly you don't care for Moss as a friend otherwise you wouldn't be such a fucking twat about everything.

Your emotions aren't fueling the posts at all and logically there's no reason to continue to beat the dead and currently decaying horse of an argument we had weeks ago. Therefore, the only reasonable explanation for your behavior is that you're here to try to prompt a reaction from us so that we'll give you attention.

Have you no shame or fucking self-respect? Jesus. Grow up.

>>1920
>Yet here you are, doing it now, like the self-unaware autist you are.
pot
kettle
black

i'm not going to try and hide my position on this in anymore of a refined argument than the infantile "he started it", but yeah, that's all the justification i need. at least it's blatantly obvious who started this altercation. you have absolutely no backing for your paranoid delusions about our apparent posting about you.

>Don't worry, that shit is archived for all time immemorial even when bumped off the board.
i wasn't going to let it slip into obscurity either, i have it saved too, no need to worry about that.

>I see a man scarred by the microaggresions of his detractors.
I see a man scarred by his complete ineptness to function in society, harden the fuck up and not take every slight against him as a conspiracy theory.

>No shit, because I'm not the one having his subconscious and conscience suppressed with SSRIs to make him a seconary pseudo-psychopath. You're just an edgy shit who wants an ego to compensate for the fact that he's a spasmodic fuck.
not on SSRIs anymore, not on anything at the moment.
turns out all i really needed to help me get through that shit was getting to know and talking with nice people. and yeah i might be weak in that respect but if that makes me an inferior person so be it.

>Preytell what rationalization you shall conjure to deny having done the same by way of this very post.
see above. you have no proof that i spent any time on cow talking about you and yet here you are, kicking up a fuss, whining and bitching about a situation everyone else had thought we had moved on from.

>>1923
So, you are denying having posted on /cow/?
It doesn't stop such a denial from being baseless in reality, especially when Jews is easily approachable for requests in doxxing Legion Faggotymous user's activity.
Then again, you could be using a rotating IP.
Since there's nothing verifying you haven't, and absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence, no, I'd find your leg to be more standless.

>>1922
Ginger involved herself, actually; she approached my e-mail inbox saying she wished to add me to Skype. I simply asked if she had it; that's not active recruitment, just a general query. You have a strange idea of how the free will of people works, to paint me in the role of manipulator and aggressor. As all feminists do, mind you.

I'm going to parse your arguments as "lol no u", "hypocrisy!1111!!!" and a bunch of other more verbosely stated versions of common cliches, but I have to laugh at this one:
>I've seen you when you are frustrated and you're unable to properly formulate an argument, you go on a spergrage and have to cool down.
Look, Ginger and I can see that you're actually the dullest out of the lot of us, it's abrasive for you to deliberately antagonize somebody with deep convictions using cutely-hidden advances of aggression, as were the entirety of the contents of your tripfriend chat exchange. Ginger's observations of you have been largely her on, which I've found very valuable insights to build upon, but most succinctly distilled, she just sees you as a sociopathic retard who punches above her weight far too often, and I'd say that's fairly true to form.

>>1926
I'm not making claims based on conviction, the nature of my words are admittedly fully speculative, thus, the fallacy is inapplicable.

>>1927
I should clarify, not in all instances, but in this instance, yes.

>>1924
>So, you are denying having posted on /cow/?
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH NO SHIT SHERLOCK

>especially when Jews is easily approachable for requests in doxxing Legion Faggotymous user's activity.
oo, i'm positively quivering in my boots at the prospect of not being connected to posts i didn't make in any way whatsoever.

>I'd find your leg to be more standless.
since when did the unverifiable possibility of me apparently posting on /cow/ hold more weight than the solid proof of you posting here?

>>1926
Woops, forgot my trip. I refreshed the page and it cleared it for some reason.

>>1928
>>1927
>Clearly admitting that your claims are baseless and this is all speculation
>Still attacking us regardless even though you know there's literally no reason to and that we're willing to even go and take time out of our busy days to effectively "shitpost" on that board just to prove our identities.
Sad. We have better ways to be spending our time together.

>>1929
>since when did the unverifiable possibility of me apparently posting on /cow/ hold more weight than the solid proof of you posting here?
Because that is not the subject concerned here, it's how you've rationalized its misdirection.

>>1925
You have a strange idea of how the free will of people works, to paint me in the role of manipulator and aggressor. As all people who resort to using petty ad hominem do, mind you.

I would really love for Ginger to show up in these threads. Ever since she's contacted you, you constantly use pronouns such as "we" and statements such as "Ginger and I." This is clearly showing the deep rooted insecurity you have for your claims and how you feel like you have to be backed up (by a woman, someone whom you literally have no respect for based on her gender) Also, I find it quite hilarious how Ginger has all of these crazy ideas about me using cutely-hidden advances of aggression. If she truly felt this absolutely frustrated by me, then why would she be so civil and initiate contact in other threads. Oh wait, is it…perhaps her trying to deliberately antagonize me with deep convictions using cutely-oblivious advances of aggression, ignoring the fact that she's basically insulted both Moss and I on all sorts of levels.

Let her speak for herself and stop attacking me in disguise of those words coming from Ginger. She might share similar ideas or viewpoints to you, which is honestly quite silly and retarded of her, might I add. What kind of self-loathing woman would genuinely attempt to befriend a known unstable, autistic misogynist who literally hates both neurotypicals and people born with xx chromosomes (both characteristics of her), just to throw herself in the middle of an argument that does not involve her in the slightest. Sounds more like a grab for attention or a lust for drama, to me. I'm sure you'll whiteknight of course and claim that she is somehow exempt from these attributes, however if she is really so adamantly on your side as you claim she is and saying all of these vicious statements towards me while acting polite in other threads, then it seems like I've pinpointed the true sociopath.

>>1931
There literally shouldn't even be a subject, you just came here to shitpost and see if we'd notice you again. How embarrassing.

>>1932
>someone whom you literally have no respect for based on her gender
That's because I respect her based on her merit. Neurofeminine as she might be, she's a hell of a lot less histrionic than you, and probably towards the neuromale end of that distribution.

I'm not saying she's exempt from these attributes at a core biological level. That's fine. But she controls them, an effort you've never bothered to put in.

>>1902
not gonna ban you now, I'm enjoying this show too much. besides, even without your trip, I know exactly who you are

>>1936
Then what was the point of enforcing the rule in the first place?

Seems rather silly.

I haven't much desire to fan the flames here. 'He started it' might be Moss' raison juste for this altercation being provoked, but this is honestly just reaffirmation of my previous point about his evasiveness from accountability.
Then you have Savvy trying to be an armchair psychologist but just ending up producing text-walls worthy of an autistic spectrum diagnosis in themselves. Full of perfunctory detail, and things that could amply apply were the roles inverted (replace myself with Moss and Ginger with Savvy, and this – >>1932
– could've easily been re-written).

She is one to talk about hugboxes, yet this is what she does wherever she goes. In her accusation of my inability to handle being judged on my merit does she, by way of transferrence, reveal a deep-seated insecurity of hers, further exposed by her presumption that women should be judged on the basis of their gender, rather than their merit! She has constructed a blatant double-standard there, yet was too intellectually obtuse to introspectively notice it.

Meet Savannah Tygart, allegory of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

>>1932
I'm not frustrated as much as I am observant, and I see little point in contacting you because I don't think you'll listen, I don't think you'll respond with anything useful, and little good can come of it. I also don't like to be "mean" to cute girls, because I am a habitual puss-puss.

I'm fairly sure Autphag respects me, from what I've seen he's transparent in regards to his opinions and when we chat he acts very respectful.
I agree with numerous beliefs of Autphag's, while not strictly adhering to a dimorphic split between the sexes designating good and evil, I think femininity represents some pretty terrible/unrealistic social and philosophical trends, like collectivism or reticence to claim responsibility for one's own actions. This is both neurological and social in foundation, and I also consider many men to fall into the camps of negative femininity.

I talked to Autphag because I saw what was going on and I felt a sense of recognition. He was right and nobody seemed to recognize that.

>>1939
>this is honestly just reaffirmation of my previous point about his evasiveness from accountability
i'm not going to be held accountable for /cow/ shitposting i didn't partake in you smelly nugget

>>1941
>I think femininity represents some pretty terrible/unrealistic social and philosophical trends, like collectivism or reticence to claim responsibility for one's own actions.
You're both absolutely bananas.

>>1942
No, but you shall be held accountable for a number of things. Issuing crass and disparaging remarks about my socio-economic status in a post on the first thread I made about this which had only served to show your own materialistic presumptions about my character (a remark about being bribed out of my 'West Lothian shithole' or something to that effect), that seemed to be an extension of your expectations; constantly defending Savannah on emotional rather than principled grounds based on gut instinct, while deliberately ignoring counter-arguments which had correctly rationalized them to be insincere, as a means of purposely antagonizing me; revealing the entirety of your exchanged political fabric to have been farcical in its nature in such a hypocritical back-peddling on your own convictions in distancing yourself from them, showing a fickleness placing your own neurological integrity into question.
My honest guess is that you had diagnosis-sought for the purpose of explaining away generalized social inadequacy that had stemmed from being a dysfunctional failure; especially when you hold in shared contempt with Savannah, a mutually disparaging view of your own supposed 'ilk', that had extended itself in every single one of your correspondences with me. You hadn't given a single consideration to why I'd be hurt by being accused of being 'autistic as fuck', as if that's some inherently negative quality. You hate yourself, more than you hate anyone else, is what I got from that.
It's a shame. I'm not the one who needs sorting oneself out when you've baggage like that, I say that sincerely.

>>1943
She's right. One major hallmark of the sociopath, is that they try to place into question their critic's sanity. You've been doing that throughout this thread.

>>1944
>You hate yourself, more than you hate anyone else, is what I got from that.
>It's a shame. I'm not the one who needs sorting oneself out when you've baggage like that, I say that sincerely.
i thought that much was obvious. but yeah…
i have a lot of shit i need to sort out, yes, that doesn't mean you don't. but whether you do or not doesn't concern me any more.

>>1947
More to the point was that my self-acceptance, though very incomplete in and of itself, seems to have developed a considerable length further than yours. I'm fully accepting of the possibility that this is likely just due to having been diagnosed earlier in my life.
I feel guiltier for not working harder in spite of it, but my defense mechanisms, built to protect me from my social retardation being exploited, essentially prevented any real trust being establshed between myself and people. I'm growing closer to not giving a shit about anyone myself, though the autist still holds a special consideration in my thoughts, for ultimately, they are, in their variations, my cluster, if you like.
Look, I know you've antipathy towards me, and I know you've probably regarded the words I've said, primarily motivated by questionably-justifiable outrage, about you to be less than savoury. That's fine. I still wish you the best in your endeavours. Whether you return that or it's unrequited, is nothing I'm going to requisite to be made known, so I'm just taking your indifference as it is: you probably feel as betrayed by me. If it is worth anything, I can't apologise sincerely enough for my social ineptitude, because the uncontrollable and inevitably ordained biologically is an original sin we all possess. I was a bad friend, because I've been a less than honourable human being.
I'll hold myself as accountable as I need to for the breakdown of our friendship. My only hope for myself is that I can eventually move on. I hope that you gradually heal from any sore wounds I may've inflicted, whether you deny my word's effect on you or not. Feigned indifference is one thing; that's a defense you're within your right to engage in, but at least have a better feel for yourself than I did, take my tale to be precautionate and direct yourself in spite of that for the better.
Sorry for my genuflectively beseeching tone of desiring atonement. It's not from you that I'm asking this from, but for what little remains in the damaged spongiform that is my conscience, in confessing to you my deepest guilt for the wrongs I've committed. Please respect this little.

>>1945
For this display of self-awareness, I'm going to commend you, because it's the closest thing you've been to modest in any of our exchanges. I'll get over it, as I've mostly have, on the condition that we leave each other in peace from here on. The "jealousy" (really just a feeling of abandonment, however justified; it makes little sense for me to be jealous, since I knew Moss was heterosexual, something he had stated clearly, and I don't tend to have subconscious lust for people, I'm much more directed in my tastes), as you would phrase my feelings and sincerely believe them to be for some reason, has mostly subsided. Whatever views Ginger and I hold about you, have not really been discussed at length far beyond this falling out. You may even grow up into a completely different person to our expectations. I can accept that people can change, having gone through many transmogrifications, for better and worse, myself.
I know you're less than trusting of my word, so I'll spare the apologies at the risk of being misconstrued as insincere. I know the neurotypical expectation is for those to be made explicit as a courtesy of good mannerisms. My intuition on that runs differently; a mannerism is insincere and cannot be held to good honourability unless substantiated by a similarly principled action, such as that expressed in one's conduct. So, to leave you be would probably constitute the most sincere apologetic gesture that I could make. Let it speak for itself and in doing so, let bitterness fall underneath the stream running beneath the bridge.
My hope for you is that you can bring happiness in a more deeply fulfilled way, however you attain it; I think the persona you convey is to a certain extent a distraction from a more greatly underlying misery. There is a passage from the Lubevich Chabad work, The Tanya, distinguishing emotion contrived in a shallow way, from that construed by a deeper sense of awe over one's existential epiphany. I hope that you reach the latter, later in the course of your life.

>>1951
>the persona you convey is to a certain extent a distraction from a more greatly underlying misery.
…Well, you're not wrong, although I've been a lot happier lately.

I wish I could understand more about why you feel I'm not living my life properly and am indulging in shallow, unfulfilling emotions, because I honestly am not seeing it that way. I'm doubtful that either of us will ever be able to see each other in a way that's understandable to the other though, of course, due to our vast differences. That's alright, though, we just weren't meant to.

I'm genuinely surprised by these posts and actually quite happy that you're willing to resolve this.

I know you're also less than trusting of my word, however I want you to know that there are no hard feelings and I hope that life gets sorted right for you as well. I appreciate your gesture and am glad we've settled this in a nice, mature manner. Hopefully you find out who exactly is harassing you on /cow/ since now you know that it's not us.

would someone explain these essayposts to me? i am unfamiliar with tripfriend lore

are there factions? is this level of animosity standard?

>>1955
Alright, I'll give you the basic gist as simplified and objective as I can muster.
>I stalked tripfriends on /r9k/ for fun and ended up becoming obsessed with the drama and one interesting trip in particularАлександр (Moss Hunter).
>I follow him to this board and assume a trip to interact with him and also because I am friends with quite a few trips since I thrive on the drama.
>Александр and Autphag bond over a similar diagnosis on the autism spectrum.
>I had a previous run-in with Autphag where I insulted his studies and he left in a rage, as a result he distrusted me.
>I befriended both of them and became even more obsessed with Александр
>Also tried making things up to Autphag but due to our first interaction, my neurotypical, female, mundane interests and shallow way of interacting on 8chan, he distrusted me.
>Александр and I got closer, Autphag felt he was being manipulated and gave us an ultimatum to stop talking or they wouldn't be friends anymore.
>A fight ensued between all three of us, Autphag angrily posted about us a bit on here and got banned, a female tripfriend named Ginger also contacted him for reasons aforementioned in this thread and it was basically Autphag/Ginger//cow/ v Александр /Me/a few other tripfriends.
>After a few days things died down and we moved on as normal but this thread happened and refueled the flames.
>We have ended it in a mature settlement and all is calm.

Yes, tripfriends have a lot of drama. We are clearly all attention whores and mentally ill, put us all in a room together and shit will undoubtedly happen. However, there are lots of cool bonds involved as well and it's interesting getting to meet new people. There aren't really factions and animosity between trips is usually on a person to person basis. It's more friendly than unfriendly.

Welcome to r9trip, btw!

>>1956
I was more opposed to the censorship of Autphag than anything, so it would be more Ginger v 54m50n (man was my ass chapped when he banned me).
Then discussion of Moss and Savvy with Autphag, and I can get carried away to the point of paranoid supposition that paints what is likely an overly drastic portrait.

The description of bananas is pretty adequate.

>>1950
Sorry for the late reply. I've tried a few times but I can't seem to get the middle line in tone correct between condescending and holier-than-thou, and a grovelling counter-apology, both of which would be disingenuous.
Once the fallout cooled down, I just did my best to put everything behind me as quickly as possible.
Whether you believe my indifference now to be feigned or not is one thing, I know in the days following our skype altercation I did feel drained and shaken. In spite of you laying out on the table all your past and present conditions and their implications from the very start, I was completely unprepared and didn't know how to deal with it.
As it is, I have plenty of other problems to deal with, shortfalls of my own to address.
My swiftness in cutting you off and not giving you a second thought should be taken less as an attempt to belittle you, and more as an indication of the sheer magnitude of other shit I have to do to improve as a person and move on in all spheres of life.
Of course I wish you the best, there isn't any need not to.

>>1956
>>1959
it's pretty interesting to follow this stuff through its course–i can see why you started stalking trips in the first place. i didn't realize everyone here essentially knew each other well.

thank you for the explanation and the welcome

>>1960
I'm just as worried that I failed to be such an effective funambulist in a similar balance between those myself.

You're a far more considerate person than most of the spergs and closet-spergs I've ever spoken to on /cow/.

Savvy maybe does deserve you, but perhaps in a slightly different way to the one either you or she thinks. I think you two would be most propituous in balancing each other. From Savvy, being provided an escape from your previous neuroses, and from yourself, showing a guiding light heading towards a path that's a little less astray from righteousness.

I have a lot more to contend with on my plate than any of this chan-drama anyway, these days. The progess of improvement in my health remains questionable. The wildest fluctuations in my day-to-day functioning seem to occur with increasing variability, and it's beginning to drain me in a greater way than our parting of ways ever did.

Having read the symptoms and being careful to rule anything mitigating out, it's beginning to sound a lot like multiple sclerosis.

Have a quick look here:
www.webmd.com/multiple-sclerosis/guide/multiple-sclerosis-symptoms

In particular, brain fog, co-ordination difficulties (I once tripped over and fell inexplicably, that is, without fiction or the aid of another object, several weeks ago, when having walked just a few yards from the bus stop), peripheral neuropathy (I'm 50/50 over whether this is diabetes or MS; no matter what I do for the former, it doesn't improve), and memory lapses are all increasing concerns. I never had near the problems with verbal articuation that I now do, as recently as 2014 yet.

Also, the local NHS foundation is really beginning to collapse around here. I can't get a doctor's appointment at my local surgery, there's 4 locums to 1 senior as a result of recent retirements. I doubt that I could even get it officially diagnosed. One look at my previous medical history, and the locums would dismiss me as a hypochondriac (they have a tendency to ignore the physiological concerns of the mentally ill – that stigma has subsided with younger doctors is rubbish, they grew up knowing nothing but the inherently pathological quasi-science of behavioural censure that is psychiatry); the senior doctor isn't as bad, he respects my inuition on these things, but to get an appointment with him is near impossible, as he's almost always fully booked.

There aren't any real treatments, even if I do get referred to a specialist. The only promises seem to lie in alternative health. As poor as I am, I do like to spend what little disposable income I have on any new herbs or micronutrients that I've researched.

That wasn't to elicit further guilt, just for the record. If you'd ever felt the desire to seek vengeance and retribution at any point, no matter how slight, maybe this will serve to your recompense: I'm beginning to suffer from the consequences of my karmic debt.

"Autphag" won't be much more as you knew him.

Tripcode is fan