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Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:03:32 No.907

Okay class, learn.

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:05:43 No.908

For consonants with two listed equivalent Latin sound values; first letter corresponds to Hangul latter's sound at the BEGINNING of a block, last letter corresponds to the Hangul letter's sound a tthe END of a block.

Except for NG. 'O' has no value at the beginning of a symbolic block; it is only NG at the end of one.

Negi Springfield !6THusU5GFo 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:06:42 No.909

This actually makes a whole lot of sense. Thanks for sharing it.

Александр Черемисинов !dBRyOPhYtE 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:08:03 No.910

>>907
oo, good stuff.
simply seeing the individual characters isn't adequate though. Ideally, tutorial videos would be useful, where they are read out and shown in examples of symbolic blocks.

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:11:42 No.912

>>910
Better illustrated example of constonant structure in syllabic block:

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:12:33 No.913

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>>912

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:17:52 No.914

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Forgive my shitty drawing…

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:19:55 No.915

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>>914
FUCK I knew I forgot one.

Александр Черемисинов !dBRyOPhYtE 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:26:25 No.916

>>915
in which order are the blocks read?

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:28:36 No.918

>>916
Left-to-right as in English, up-to-down.

Александр Черемисинов !dBRyOPhYtE 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:34:59 No.920

>>918
cool. so is the difference between, say, the second and third blocks (which arrange a consonant and a vowel to be read in the same order) merely down to the… orientation of the given vowel,
so that
o, yo, u, yu, eu would be placed beneath the consonant, whereas the others would be placed to the side?

And each symbolic block represents a syllable?

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:35:34 No.921

>>920
Correct.

Александр Черемисинов !dBRyOPhYtE 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:37:02 No.922

>>921
where can i find a tool for transliteration/typing in hangul, so that the syllabic blocks are correctly structured?
I want to test Hangul's use for writing in English.

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:40:14 No.923

>>922
I've never used a transliteration tool, instead installing Korean language keyboard directly from Windows boot disk, which I haven't done in a while, so I'm at a loss as to where to guide you.

I can tell you that English's spoken morphology would likely change as a result of dumping Latin in favour of Hangul.

E.g. of some English loan-words to illustrate this:

Transsexual becomes 'teu-ran-saek-seu-juul'.
Computer becomes 'kom-pyu-teo'.
Homosexual becomes 'ho-meo-saek-seu-juul'.
Etc.

Александр Черемисинов !dBRyOPhYtE 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:43:12 No.924

>>923
>>923
>spoken morphology
aka phonology
and yes.
i've already stumbled upon a hitch.
i can't figure out how you would transliterate for the phonetic sound of 'i' in… well, the words above (hitch, figure, transliterate, phonetic, in)

Александр Черемисинов !dBRyOPhYtE 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:44:26 No.925

>>924
hmm…
phonetics vs phonology, which word did I intend to use?
time to read up.
http://www.phon.ox.ac.uk/jcoleman/PHONOLOGY1.htm

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:53:05 No.927

>>924
Usually 'ae'.
'Aen', 'hae-teu-chi', 'peu-hae-gu-ra', 'teu-ran-seu-rae-te-rae-teu', 'peu-heon-eh-taek', etc.

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:55:05 No.929

>>927
Which brings us to an even bigger flaw: Hangul has no 'f' sound.

Александр Черемисинов !dBRyOPhYtE 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:57:18 No.930

>>927
but your infographic says 'ae' is pronounced as the a in hand.

which would mean 'kindle' and 'candle' would be pronounced exactly the same.

>>929
evidently, Hangul has a solid basis but it could do with a little extension if it's to be used for other languages.

My question now would be, which alphabet closest to Hangul has an 'f' sound, and what does that look like?

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 00:59:58 No.931

>>930
Needn't even look outwith Hangul. On King Sejong's 500th birthday – he was inventor of Hangul – in 1992, somebody actually made a modified Hangul alphabet with the sound 'f' included.

To best of my recollection, it was a triangle. Cannot find the infograph, sadly.

Александр Черемисинов !dBRyOPhYtE 02/06/15 (Fri) 01:02:50 No.933

>>931
there's no 'th' either…

let's face it. at the end of the day, the only alphabet which can ubiquitously cover every single language out there is IPA (international phonetic alphabet, not india pale ale, although i've been known to be partial to the latter).
IPA is, of course, based primarily off the Latin alphabet.

The aim then would be to create an equivalent with its' basis in Hangul.

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 01:05:09 No.937

>>933
I'm one of those lumpenprole niggers who pronounce f and th as the same letter anyway.

Александр Черемисинов !dBRyOPhYtE 02/06/15 (Fri) 01:12:25 No.938

>>937
yeah i know your kind, saying 'fink' instead of 'think', but that still doesn't account for a hard 'th' as in 'this'
don't tell me, you pronounce that as a 'v'
it's as if these mispronunciations have come about purely because people lack the fine motor skills in their jaw to use the tip of their tongue without biting it, in which case it's entirely understandable, as biting your lower lip is nowhere near as painful.

Александр Черемисинов !dBRyOPhYtE 02/06/15 (Fri) 01:17:17 No.939

>>933
I'm serious though. I've always thought it'd be cool if we used an alphabet that reflected phonetics to such accuracy that any person, anywhere in the world, could read a word they've never seen or heard of before in a foreign language and instantly understand how it ought to be pronounced.
Think how easy it would make SPG. No more "i before e except after c when it sounds like ee" no accounting for one ridiculous exception to the next, just solid, phonetic alphabet.

I've already taken a shine to Hangul's use of syllabic blocks, it'd be so much neater than IPA.

Autphag!MLHqI35Srs 02/06/15 (Fri) 10:53:56 No.943

>>938
Hard 'th' is fine. I just didn't make the distinction between f and th until someone pointed it out to me, embarrassingly enough.

/r9trip/!CraveNKrUM 04/06/15 (Mon) 23:49:04 No.1997

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>>938
>yeah i know your kind, saying 'fink' instead of 'think'
He says, not realizing that he does the same.

Whinging !lphnIgLpHU 04/07/15 (Tue) 02:00:30 No.1999

!
We were just talking about this.

Savvy!CraveNKrUM 04/07/15 (Tue) 20:11:33 No.2001

>>1999
That's actually really cute haha!
He still swears that he doesn't say "fink" but he definitely does, it's adorable though.

Do you have an accent?

Ginger !lphnIgLpHU 04/08/15 (Wed) 02:15:22 No.2005

>>2001
Coloradan accents are nasal, and often drop Ts or Ds in the middles of words e.g. mountain becomes mow-in, there's a sharp syllabic pause that takes the place of the missing consonant.

Savvy!CraveNKrUM 04/08/15 (Wed) 02:59:18 No.2017

>>2005
Ahh, my accent is similar. It's a weird blend of Kentucky/different parts of the South (West Virginia, Texas, TN), where I was born and raised and then California, where I began voice training in order to stop sounding like a hillbilly.

I chameleon really well to whomever is speaking since I moved so much when I was younger. Just a reflex.