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c2905c No.576[Reply]

In this thread post:

* suggestions for board features

* suggestions and contributions for board assets such as flags, banners (when they are enabled) et cetera

* criticism of moderation

Flags we need:

* Hinduism

* Atheism

* Agnosticism

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c2905c No.615

Should we have IDs enabled?



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b70002 No.617[Reply]

Why should I be Protestant rather than Catholic or Orthodox?

97370c No.635

You shouldn't.



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9c7790 No.633[Reply]

Why aren't you Zionist yet, /rel/?

9952f8 No.634

Cause I don't want to go to hell



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67f1ec No.621[Reply]

January 20, 2006 by Jayadvaita Swami

from Back to Godhead, May-June 1994

Here’s a page full of reasons. I’ll spare you the footnotes, but each reason is fully upheld by evidence from Vedic writings like Bhagavad-gita, the Upanisads, and the Puranas.

Chanting Hare Krishna awakens love of God.

Chanting Hare Krishna brings liberation as a side benefit along the way.

When you chant Hare Krishna, you automatically develop knowledge and detachment.

Chanting Hare Krishna gets you out of the endless cycle of birth and death.

It is the most effective means of self-realization in the present Age of Quarrel. Nothing else works nearly as well.

Chanting Hare Krishna cleanses the heart of all illusions and misunderstandings.

By chanting Hare Krishna, you become free from all anxieties.

Chanting Hare Krishna brings you to self-realization—and shows you how to act as a self-realized soul.

It keeps you ever mindful of Krishna, the reservoir of pleasure.

There are no hard and fast rules for chanting. You can chant anywhere, any time, under any circumstances.

Krishna Himself is fully present in the transcendental sound of His name. And the more you chant, the more you realize it.

All other Vedic mantras are included in the chanting of Hare Krishna. So just by chanting this mantra, you get the benefit of all others.

Chanting Hare Krishna purifies not only you but every living entity around you. Whoever hears the chanting gets spiritual benefit.

A person who chants Hare Krishna develops all good qualities.

You can chant Hare Krishna softly for personal meditation or loudly with your family or friends. Both ways work.

Srila Prabhupada chanted Hare Krishna, and so did great souls in the past. So why not you?

It’s free. Chanting Hare Krishna never costs you money.

Chanting Hare Krishna brings the highest states of ecstasy.

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811206 No.627

Hey, I'm reading Srila Sridhara Swami' Subodhini tika(tika=commentary) on the Gita. My edition has the original Sanskrit text, though in a different Indian script. Anyone else game for it?


3b02a8 No.628

Even Advaitins hold that mantra in great esteem. Here is from the most Orthodox of sources

http://kamakotimandali.com/misc/harekrishna.html


11ce0a No.630

"The first reason is because it cleanses the heart of all the dust that’s been there for many years. This refers to an internal cleansing process. If we neglect to clean a room, soon dust will appear on the furniture and under the bed. But the dirt that the chanting of Hare Krishna cleans is the dirt of material desires within the heart. Whenever we desire something and forget the pleasure of Krishna , the Supreme Personality of Godhead, that is a “dirty” desire. Otherwise, nothing is innately good or bad. But if we desire anything other than pleasing the Supreme Personality of Godhead, that is inauspicious."

— Satsvarupa dasa Goswami


11ce0a No.631

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1

Glory to the śrī-kṛṣṇa-saṅkīrtana, which cleanses the heart of all the dust accumulated for years and extinguishes the fire of conditional life, of repeated birth and death. This saṅkīrtana movement is the prime benediction for humanity at large because it spreads the rays of the benediction moon. It is the life of all transcendental knowledge. It increases the ocean of transcendental bliss, and it enables us to fully taste the nectar for which we are always anxious.

2

O my Lord, Your holy name alone can render all benediction to living beings, and thus You have hundreds and millions of names like Kṛṣṇa and Govinda. In these transcendental names You have invested all Your transcendental energies. There are not even hard and fast rules for chanting these names. O my Lord, out of kindness You enable us to easily approach You by Your holy names, but I am so unfortunate that I have no attraction for them.

3

One should chant the holy name of the Lord in a humble state of mind, thinking oneself lower than the straw in the street; one should be more tolerant than a tree, devoid of all sense of false prestige and should be ready to offer all respect to others. In such a state of mind one can chant the holy name of the Lord constantly.

4

O almighty Lord, I have no desire to accumulate wealth, nor do I desire beautiful women, nor do I want any number of followers. I only want Your causeless devotional service birth after birth.

5

O son of Mahārāja Nanda [Kṛṣṇa], I am Your eternal servitor, yet somehow or other I have fallen into the ocean of birth and death. Please pick me up from this ocean of death and place me as one of the atoms at Your lotus feet.

6

O my Lord, when will my eyes be decorated with tears of love flowing constantly when I chant Your holy name? When will my voice chPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


11ce0a No.632

>>622

That's excellent friend. There is no ISKCON center near me either but am making a trip this spring to visit one. Hopefully it pulls through.

Will also say I can confirm devotional service and chanting sometimes you weep in loving service to Krishna. Some things in scriptures I cannot read without weeping heavily. And am usually a bit of a hard ass otherwise, not emotional at all so it is embarrassing to me.

Jaya Prabhupada!



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9c508f No.626[Reply]

Is there a BO present?

because I really, really want this board.

t. anon trying to claim /rel/


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0c4cab No.620[Reply]

>God specifically says NO IDOLATRY

>c*tholics do it anyway

06e574 No.624

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>>620

>that pic



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a9982a No.606[Reply]

Confession time!

Come in this thread and confess your sins. Tell us about bad things you did, things you feel guilty about, and sins you struggle with. People in the thread can console you and give advice.

b9b3d1 No.608

masturbation


597496 No.609

>>608

Same


d98110 No.623

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It's been 11 days.

Giving in to anger, several times

Entertaining impure thoughts, too many times to count

Lazy & hurried prayer, once

Disrespect towards parents, thrice

Wishing ill upon others out of anger, several times

Wishing ill upon others out of envy, once

Gluttony, in six or seven instances



aa2377 No.613[Reply]

Anyone hear of the Bahai faith? whats your thoughts or takes on it?

9b763b No.619

sounds zoroastrianism tier, in that it's middle eastern and barely practiced and therefore irrelevent



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5f5616 No.404[Reply]

Hello /rel/,

Are Yazidis devil-worshippers?
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f0896e No.424

You mean those nice and quiet people who never hurt anyone, and were and are constantly being persecuted by Sunni muoolsimes, and now being mass murdered and their daughters raped (especially the younger ones) by the murderous-pedophile ISIL? No, they're not Satan worshipers, and even if they were, it's their choice, they're not hurting anyone so leave them alone.

5f5616 No.434

>>424
Yeah, that's how the media portrays them. And we all know that Satan ultimately is behind most traditional media, considering he IS the Father of Lies.

The fact that the US is using the protection of devil-worshippers as the justification to go to war is frightening to me, as a Christian.

e7dd59 No.449

>>424

You dodged the question entirely.

Can tell you're new or totally estranged when it comes to mideast current events.

I first heard about yazidis like six years ago when they stoned a young girl for converting to Islam. The video released by the precursor of ISIS in response was great. They tracked down the stone throwers and shot them all against a wall.

Yes, the yazidis are satanists and they are also zionists. Thr fact they survived 1436 years of Islam is a great example of islamic tolerance. Their defense by USA, Israel and other allied troublemakers is no surprise.

74ace3 No.450

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>>449
>the fact that they survived 1436 years of Islam is a great example of Islamic tolerance.

Very good point, imo. Thanks for the response. I'd like to hear a few more people chime in. I'm kind of chilled by their "Peacock god's" mythos and how eerily similar it is to the fall of lucifer.

8094e7 No.618

According to the JoyOfSatan, yes.

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Yezidis.html

Posting on a ded board



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c8e1c3 No.473[Reply]

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What is Asatru?

Long before Christianity came to northern Europe, the people there – our ancestors – had their own form of spirituality that influenced every aspect of their culture. One expression of this European spirituality was Asatru. It was practiced in the lands that are today Scandinavia, England, Germany, France, the Netherlands, and other countries as well. Asatru is the original, or native, religion for the peoples who lived in these regions. Nevertheless, Asatru is more than just a religion in the narrow sense of the word. It is our way of being in the world; some of us call it the “Germanic Folkway” to underline this larger concept.

What does the word “Asatru” mean?

It means, roughly, “belief in the Gods” or “those true to the Gods” in Old Norse, the language of ancient Scandinavia in which so much of our source material was written. (A more literal translation would be “gaining experience of the ancestral sovereign gods.”) Asatru is a name given to the religionPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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c8e1c3 No.475

Don’t all religions believe in these things you’ve just named?
No. People may honestly believe that this is the case, but examination does not bear this out. They believe in freedom on the one hand, yet at the same time admit they are slaves to their God. They agree that joy is good, but their teachings laden them with guilt because of some imaginary “original sin.” They want to accept the real world on a pragmatic basis, yet they are trained to believe without questioning when the teachings of their religion conflict with reason or with known facts about the nature of the world (“You must have faith.”).
Of course, many people believe in the values of Asatru on a gut level. After all, they’re instinctive, passed down to us from our ancestors. We want to believe that the better-known religions espouse those values, so we see what we want to see. Most people just haven’t yet realized that the major religions are saying things that conflict with the values we know in our hearts are right. To find European virtues, one has to look to a religion truly consistent with those virtues – Asatru.

What do you have to say about good and evil?
Good and evil are not constants. What is good in one case will not be good in another, and evil in one circumstance will not be evil under a different set of conditions. In any one instance, the right course of action will have been shaped by the influence of the past and the present. The result may or may not be “good” or “evil,” but it will still be the right action.
In no case are good and evil dictated to us by edicts written by an authoritarian deity. We are expected to use our freedom, responsibility, and awareness of duty to serve the highest and best ends.

What does Asatru teach about an afterlife?
We believe that there is an afterlife, and that those who have lived lives of virtue and power will go on to experience greater fulfillment, pleasure, and challenge. Those who have led lives characterized by vice, weakness, and a low level of consciousness will be separated from kin, doomed to a vegetative state of dullness and gloom. The precise nature of the afterlife – what it will look like and feel like – is beyond our understanding and is dealt with symbolically in the myths.
There is also a tradition in Asatru of rebirth within the family line. Perhaps the individual is able to choose whether or not he or she is re-manifested in this world, or there may be natural laws governing tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

c8e1c3 No.476

>>473
Ok. The featured threads at the top are all messed up. It works right in the /asatru/ board. My bad.

8d02e6 No.479

>Long before Christianity came to northern Europe, the people there – our ancestors

So whoever has been Christian in Northern Europe for the past 500 years is not your ancestor?

6c4557 No.584

>>479

They are, and yet the old religion stretches back as far as the stone age.

I'd say it's deeper rooted in our culture and heritage than Christianity is.


cd401f No.616

>>584

That's like saying "gramps lived 84 years, but he's been dead for 26, he's spent more time alive than dead so we should acknowledge him as being alive."



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35eab9 No.477[Reply]

What are your thoughts on Hinduism? Has anyone else considered this religion?
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0c64e8 No.516

>>506
It does, but it isn't a proper trinity.
They are all the major Brahman, but 3 different emanations in form of Devas

0a975d No.560

>>506

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trifunctional_hypothesis


5e4ae0 No.561

The trimurti isn't that relevant even from a classical point of view(in Hindu theology and soiterology). Compare it to the Christian heresy of modalism-that's what I would say.


d60641 No.593

Read the Bhagavad Gita, its a classic.

Also check out Kashmir Shaivism.

Also Yoga Sutras of Patanjali:

1.17. Cognitive meditation is accompanied by reasoning, discrimination, bliss and the sense of 'I am.'

1.18. There is another meditation which is attained by the practice of alert mental suspension until only subtle impressions remain.

1.19. For those beings who are formless and for those beings who are merged in unitive consciousness, the world is the cause.

1.20. For others, clarity is preceded by faith, energy, memory and equalminded contemplation.

1.21. Equalminded contemplation is nearest to those whose desire is most ardent.

1.22. There is further distinction on account of the mild, moderate or intense means employed.

1.23. Or by surrender to God.

1.24. God is a particular yet universal indweller, untouched by afflictions, actions, impressions and their results.

1.25. In God, the seed of omniscience is unsurpassed.

1.26. Not being conditioned by time, God is the teacher of even the ancients.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/yogasutr.htm


2aaca1 No.612

I'm considering it. And I thought that Hinduism predated both Christianity and Buddhism, rather than being influenced from them?



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9b8e9a No.611[Reply]

So, I'm an American in Texas, and I'm trying to pursue the Purva Mimamsa tradition of Hinduism. In not sure how to start, though. Should I just read the pdfs on the tradition that I found online? Should I study Hinduism from a General perspective, even though the following of deities is not the focus of purva mimamsa? I'm atheist, and the atheist tradition interests me.

Or can I find a teacher? How? Should I just read the Vedas and go from there? Purva Mimamsa seems to be smaller sect, so I'm not surprised that opportunity to learn is so small in America, or at least my part.

Akkso, the of Om as an image is both irony and serves as a content marker.

Any useful help or advice is welcome.


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c55561 No.454[Reply]

>"The only reason Christfags use the fedora maymay is because they don't have any arguments left"
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bc6607 No.598

>>597

>What special pleading?

The part where God is supposed to be exempt from causality, without even explaining why


88374c No.599

>>597

>whatever caused the universe has to be independent of the universe and design it

Why would that be the case? There's no need for a design or intelligence for the universe to exist.


125e2e No.601

>>598

As God is eternal, he had no cause.

If the universe could be proven to be eternal, no cause would be necessary for it, but as all evidence points otherwise, a cause is necessary.

It would be like asking where the concept of 1 came from. The symbol has a definite origin, but the concept it represents does not. Therefore, there's no reason for 1 to exist; it just is.


3910ad No.603

>>591

>This is false.

>Proceeds to explain that the universe had a beginning, but we don't care to look for an externa cause because we have no way to do it

Try to understand that a technical limitation isn't a limit for philosophical thought in general. In a scientific theory this kind of reasoning is legitimate, because if you have no way to observe something then you can't test a claim. However, this doesn't mean the universe didn't have a beginnin or an external cause, it simply means you're not looking for it because you're pretty sure you can't.

>>598

Please stop considering God as a dude sitting on a throne.


3401dd No.610

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>>601

Why does the cause, "god", need to be immortal or intelligent?

Perhaps, there was a cause once but cause is now gone or dead.

Perhaps, a natural process like evolution created the universe. A living organism that could simulate the world around it might be able to reproduce better. The universe could simply be a simulation or "dream" inside an evolved creature's head. The creature need not be intelligent (in the human manner), moral or have any interest in us.

My personal view is that the universe is probably some sort of simulation of some sort but I cannot decide whether a natural simulation such as caused by evolution or a constructed simulation is more plausible.

>>472

Does the need to sacrifice oneself for a loved one in danger prove that self-harm is good for oneself? The need for spirituality implies that longing to belong in a group and conform is evolutionarily favourable and nothing more.



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6f7147 No.604[Reply]

I've got a bit of a problem. I don't know how to have faith. I was raised Baptist, but kind of fell out of it when I was 12 or so. I've always been really interested in religion and spirituality, but I've never really felt any sort of religious faith, or had any kind of spiritual experience. I've gone to a number of churches, but I just can't seem to actually believe. None of it seems to make any sense to me. Any suggestions?

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c48d4a No.607

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Supplement your growing faith, even if it is almost non existent. As a Catholic, there are thousands of years of sources available to me. There is The Bible (most important, read daily), the Catechism, papal encyclials, apologetics (Aquinas and Augustine are two you should start with), and other writings, including histories and homilies, made by people in the church.

Encyclials are here:

http://www.papalencyclicals.net

Fides et ratio by John Paul ll would be a good start, it is on faith and reason.

Also, stay steadfast in prayer; ignoring it would do more damage.

Continue in study, prayer, and community; I will pray for you, brother. May God be with you.



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6547d4 No.360[Reply]

WOLOLOOOOOO
AIYOYO
WOLOLOOOOO

You have now been converted. What are you now?

57facb No.361

>>360
Definitely not a faggot (-→ OP)

a1d2b3 No.378

>>361
Wololooo, nigga. You're a crazy wiccan psycopath, and prime Helepolis fodder.

3914f0 No.554

>>360
Lovecraftian.

Pls help

1214ab No.605

Blue, presumably



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