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 No.3124

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"Create in me a pure heart, O my God, and renew a tranquil conscience within me, O my Hope! Through the spirit of power confirm Thou me in Thy Cause, O my Best-Beloved, and by the light of Thy glory reveal unto me Thy path, O Thou the Goal of my desire! Through the power of Thy transcendent might lift me up unto the heaven of Thy holiness, O Source of my being, and by the breezes of Thine eternity gladden me, O Thou Who art my God! Let Thine everlasting melodies breathe tranquillity on me, O my Companion, and let the riches of Thine ancient countenance deliver me from all except Thee, O my Master, and let the tidings of the revelation of Thine incorruptible Essence bring me joy, O Thou Who art the most manifest of the manifest and the most hidden of the hidden!"


 No.3129

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 No.3246

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Ain't nobody stoppin' my shine

They try to break me try to take me out

But I got Jesus on my side

Felt so bad I thought I would die

But ain't no power stronger than the one

That came and laid down his life

And I got mountains to climb

But the enemy can't stop me

'Cause there's a calling on my life

So, when I'm crying, don't last too long

'Cause he's gon' step in and make it alright

Won't He do it?

He said He would

Fight your battles for you

They gon' wonder how you sleep at night

Won't He do it?

Ah yes, He will

Anybody tell you something different

You know that's a lie

You gon' look back and be so amazed

How it turned out

It's only His grace

Won't He do it?

He said He would

So, I trust Him at all times

I'm about to lose it again

I'm about to let them know where I'm from

Don't take me there again

I just call on Jesus, my friend

Get me back in line one more time

'Cause he's always listening

Ain't nobody perfect, everybody's hurting

I need your whisper Lord, save me from my weaknesses

'Cause you're always on time

Come and get your breakthrough

'Cause I'm gonna get mine


 No.3341

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>A Urantia Book-inspired Song giving praise and Thanks to the Universal Father whose personal name is Deity Everlasting.


 No.3391

>Orthodox Divine Worship - Children chant Christmas carol

https://youtu.be/M19OOy-HTyE




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 No.3264[Reply]

Provocative Memes to Inspire the soul and enlarge the mind's capacity to actually know God.

 No.3382

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 No.3385

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Mota would make good memes


 No.3388

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 No.3378[Reply]

The Six Sangik Races of Urantia

 No.3380

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>Newton's color circle, from Opticks of 1704, showing the colors he associated with musical notes. The spectral colors from red to violet are divided by the notes of the musical scale, starting at D. The circle completes a full octave, from D to D. Newton's circle places red, at one end of the spectrum, next to violet, at the other. This reflects the fact that non-spectral purple colors are observed when red and violet light are mixed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_spectrum


 No.3384

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78:1.3.1. The violet race—Adamites and Adamsonites. The chief center of Adamite culture was in the second garden, located in the triangle of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers; this was indeed the cradle of Occidental and Indian civilizations. The secondary or northern center of the violet race was the Adamsonite headquarters, situated east of the southern shore of the Caspian Sea near the Kopet mountains. From these two centers there went forth to the surrounding lands the culture and life plasm which so immediately quickened all the races.


 No.3387

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>Human Origins According to the Urantia Book is a LOT Different to What We Have Been Taught




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 No.1880[Reply]

>tfw God exists

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 No.1953

>>1951

This is a semantic issue. From the perspective of true reality, there is only one, all separation is an illusion.

From the perspective within the illusion, the illusion of separation appears real

But because the illusion is the separation of the one, of infinity, of God, then everything is actually God.

God doesn't exist. You do.


 No.1958

>>1953

Well said, and a valid point- but by your own definition that which is would encompass a greater divinity. That is to say, the collective unconscious of all creation combines to form the supreme personality of Godhead. And by the same token, if there is no God in the sense of a primordial intelligence, there is no true existence in any sense. If Atheism is to be believed, we are all nothing but automatons fulfilling roles predetermined by our baser natures. That is to say, "mindless mirrors laughing screaming as they parade about…" etc.


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 No.2428[Reply]

What should I know before deciding to read this?

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 No.2620

>>2591

Yes. It's interesting.


 No.3316

>>2428

>What should I know before deciding to read this?

It claims divine authorship: that angels and other celestial personalities are the authors of the papers.

>Sponsored by a Uversa Corps of Superuniverse Personalities acting by authority of the Orvonton Ancients of Days.

Part I: The central and superuniverses

1. The Universal Father – Divine Counselor

2. The Nature of God – Divine Counselor

3. The Attributes of God – Divine Counselor

4. God's Relation to the Universe – Divine Counselor

5. God's Relation to the Individual – Divine Counselor

6. The Eternal Son – Divine Counselor

7. Relation of the Eternal Son to the Universe – Divine Counselor

8. The Infinite Spirit – Divine Counselor

9. Relation of the Infinite Spirit to the Universe – Divine Counselor

10. The Paradise Trinity – Universal Censor

11. The Eternal Isle of Paradise – Perfector of Wisdom

12. The Universe of Universes – Perfector of Wisdom

13. The Sacred Spheres of Paradise – Perfector of Wisdom

14. The Central and Divine Universe – Perfector of Wisdom

15. The Seven Superuniverses – Universal Censor

16. The Seven Master Spirits – Universal Censor

17. The Seven Supreme Spirit Groups – Divine Counselor

18. The Supreme Trinity Personalities – Divine Counselor

19. The Co-ordinate Trinity-Origin Beings – Divine Counselor

20. The Paradise Sons of God – Perfector of Wisdom

21. The Paradise Creator Sons – Perfector of Wisdom

22. The Trinitized Sons of God – Mighty Messenger

23. The Solitary Messengers – Divine Counselor

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>>3316

>Sponsored by a Nebadon Corps of Local Universe Personalities acting by authority of Gabriel of Salvington.

Part II: The Local Universe

32. The Evolution of Local Universes – Mighty Messenger

33. Administration of the Local Universe – Chief of Archangels

34. The Local Universe Mother Spirit – Mighty Messenger

35. The Local Universe Sons of God – Chief of Archangels

36. The Life Carriers – Vorondadek Son

37. Personalities of the Local Universe – Brilliant Evening Star

38. Ministering Spirits of the Local Universe – Melchizedek

39. The Seraphic Hosts – Melchizedek

40. The Ascending Sons of God – Mighty Messenger

41. Physical Aspects of the Local Universe – Archangel

42. Energy — Mind and Matter – Mighty Messenger

43. The Constellations – Malavatia Melchizedek

44. The Celestial Artisans – Archangel

45. The Local System Administration – Melchizedek

46. The Local System Headquarters – Archangel

47. The Seven Mansion Worlds – Brilliant Evening Star

48. The Morontia Life – Archangel

49. The Inhabited Worlds – Melchizedek

50. The Planetary Princes – Secondary Lanonandek

51. The Planetary Adams – Secondary Lanonandek

52. Planetary Mortal Epochs – Mighty Messenger

53. The Lucifer Rebellion – Manovandet Melchizedek

54. Problems of the Lucifer Rebellion – Mighty Messenger

55. The Spheres of Light and Life – Mighty Messenger

56. Universal Unity – Mighty Messenger and Machiventa Melchizedek


 No.3372

You should have a liking to concept. Concept is always relative so you will have to update often. The philosophy is the most important to acquire through the building of concepts.


 No.3381

Read The Urantia Book while you are still on Urantia.




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 No.3181[Reply]

Bible Study time in 15 mins Join us!!

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 No.3368

Bible Study

40 mins 9:00 AM CST (3PM UTC)

https://twitch.tv/a7runaway

Apostles Creed

Our Father/Lords Prayer

2 Kings 7-9

Avoiding Impurity Ascension Presents

Randy Newman - He Gives Us All His Love

James 3-4, Daily Reading USCCB

Daily Reading Reflection USCCB

Sister Cristina & the Current Church Crisis by Sensus Fidelium

Vince Gill - Go Rest High On That Mountain

2 Kings 10-12

Our Father/Lords Prayer

Bengel's Gnomon of the NT, Haydock Catholic Bible Commentary, Keil and Delitzsch OT Commentary, Thomas Aquinas and Tyndale.

- http://ccc.usccb.org/cccradio/NABPodcasts/18_12_30.mp3 Daily Reading USCCB

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNU2LseHjls Daily Reading Reflection USCCB

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y2S58hTLqA Avoiding Impurity Ascension Presents

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcjgL-n8B2I Sister Cristina & the Current Church Crisis by Sensus Fidelium

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VrJsFpmG2w Randy Newman - He Gives Us All His Love

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jXrmAKBBTU Vince Gill - Go Rest High On That Mountain

https://discord.gg/j7JPZ5Z


 No.3371

Bible Study

15 mins 9:00 PM CST (3AM UTC)

https://twitch.tv/a7runaway

Apostles Creed

Our Father/Lords Prayer

2 Kings 13-14, 1 Peter 1-2

Hope for a Wounded World - Archbishop Fulton Sheen pt 1

James 5, Acts 15, Daily Reading USCCB

Daily Reading Reflection USCCB

Hope for a Wounded World - Archbishop Fulton Sheen pt 2

Jonah 1-4, Mark 16

Our Father/Lords Prayer

Bengel's Gnomon of the NT, Haydock Catholic Bible Commentary, Keil and Delitzsch OT Commentary, Thomas Aquinas and Tyndale.

- http://ccc.usccb.org/cccradio/NABPodcasts/18_12_31.mp3 Daily Reading USCCB

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC9SZQKYSZc Daily Reading Reflection USCCB

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve6P4QzqCGU Hope for a Wounded World - Archbishop Fulton Sheen


 No.3375

Bible Study

~20 mins 8:00 PM CST (2AM UTC)

https://twitch.tv/a7runaway

Apostles Creed

Our Father/Lords Prayer

Amos 1-3

Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions - People Get Ready (1965)

1 Peter 3-4

"Signs Of Our Times": Ven. Fulton Sheen on Anti-Christ & Crisis in the Church & Society (1947)

Amos 4-6, Daily Reading USCCB

Daily Reading Reflection USCCB

Janis Ian - He's a Rainbow

Galatians 1

Our Father/Lords Prayer

Bengel's Gnomon of the NT, Haydock Catholic Bible Commentary, Keil and Delitzsch OT Commentary, Thomas Aquinas and Tyndale.

- http://ccc.usccb.org/cccradio/NABPodcasts/19_01_01.mp3 Daily Reading USCCB

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4mlxwuzN1E Daily Reading Reflection USCCB

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdKEbnS1eBE Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions - People Get Ready (1965)

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhaCjUGamjk "Signs Of Our Times": Ven. Fulton Sheen on Anti-Christ & Crisis in the Church & Society (1947)

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWK3oAUwCBE Janis Ian - He's a Rainbow

https://discord.gg/j7JPZ5Z


 No.3376

Bible Study

~1 hr 4:30 PM CST (10:30PM UTC)

https://twitch.tv/a7runaway

Apostles Creed

Our Father/Lord Prayer

Amos 7-9, 1 Peter 5

Why Confess My Sins to a Priest? by Ascension Presents

Judee Sill - The Donor - Heart Food

Galatians 2-3, Daily Reading USCCB

Daily Reading Reflection USCCB

Read Scripture: 1 Peter

Lord of Patience by Shai Linne

2 Kings 15-16, 2 Peter 1

Our Father/Lords Prayer

Bengel's Gnomon of the NT, Haydock Catholic Bible Commentary, Keil and Delitzsch OT Commentary, Thomas Aquinas and Tyndale.

- http://ccc.usccb.org/cccradio/NABPodcasts/19_01_02.mp3 Daily Reading USCCB

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqIx4UxKEc8 Daily Reading Reflection USCCB

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtvjmsPmVpw Why Confess My Sins to a Priest? by Ascension Presents

- https://thebibleproject.com/explore/1-peter/ Read Scripture: 1 Peter

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I61zfxc2cHo Judee Sill - The Donor - Heart Food

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR7jJqf5w_c Lord of Patience by Shai Linne

https://discord.gg/j7JPZ5Z


 No.3377

Bible Study

~1 hr 4:30 PM CST (10:30PM UTC)

https://twitch.tv/a7runaway

Apostles Creed

Lords Prayer/Our Father

2 Peter 2, 2 Kings 17-18, Daily Reading USCCB

Daily Reading Reflection USCCB

Invoking the Holy Name of Jesus by Sensus Fidelium

Oh Well Fleetwood Mac

2 Peter 3, Galatians 4-5

Read Scripture: 2 Peter by The Bible Project

I Think He's Hiding by Randy Newman

Luke 1, 2 Kings 19-21

Lords Prayer/Our Father

Bengel's Gnomon of the NT, Haydock Catholic Bible Commentary, Keil and Delitzsch OT Commentary, Thomas Aquinas and Tyndale.

- http://ccc.usccb.org/cccradio/NABPodcasts/19_01_03.mp3 Daily Reading USCCB

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Obd8Nl6Qqzo Daily Reading Reflection USCCB

- https://thebibleproject.com/explore/2-peter/ Read Scripture: 2 Peter by The Bible Project

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ohGnkn5Sgw Invoking the Holy Name of Jesus by Sensus Fidelium

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE4HGlmtOcg Oh Well Fleetwood Mac

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuL70a9xpD8 I Think He's Hiding by Randy Newman

https://discord.gg/j7JPZ5Z




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 No.1840[Reply]

32:5.4.To me it seems more fitting, for purposes of explanation to the mortal mind, to conceive of eternity as a cycle and the eternal purpose as an endless circle, a cycle of eternity in some way synchronized with the transient material cycles of time. As regards the sectors of time connected with, and forming a part of, the cycle of eternity, we are forced to recognize that such temporary epochs are born, live, and die just as the temporary beings of time are born, live, and die. Most human beings die because, having failed to achieve the spirit level of Adjuster fusion, the metamorphosis of death constitutes the only possible procedure whereby they may escape the fetters of time and the bonds of material creation, thereby being enabled to strike spiritual step with the progressive procession of eternity. Having survived the trial life of time and material existence, it becomes possible for you to continue on in touch with, even as a part of, eternity, swinging on forever with the worlds of space around the circle of the eternal ages.

32:5.5.The sectors of time are like the flashes of personality in temporal form; they appear for a season, and then they are lost to human sight, only to reappear as new actors and continuing factors in the higher life of the endless swing around the eternal circle. Eternity can hardly be conceived as a straightaway drive, in view of our belief in a delimited universe moving over a vast, elongated circle around the central dwelling place of the Universal Father.

32:5.6.Frankly, eternity is incomprehensible to the finite mind of time. You simply cannot grasp it; you cannot comprehend it. I do not completely visualize it, and even if I did, it would be impossible for me to convey my concept to the human mind. Nevertheless, I have done my best to portray something of our viewpoint, to tell you somewhat of our understanding of things eternal. I am endeavoring to aid you in the crystallization of your thoughts about these values which are of infinite nature and eternal import.

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32:5.2 The eternal purpose of the eternal God is a high spiritual ideal. The events of time and the struggles of material existence are but the transient scaffolding which bridges over to the other side, to the promised land of spiritual reality and supernal existence. Of course, you mortals find it difficult to grasp the idea of an eternal purpose; you are virtually unable to comprehend the thought of eternity, something never beginning and never ending. Everything familiar to you has an end.

32:5.3 As regards an individual life, the duration of a realm, or the chronology of any connected series of events, it would seem that we are dealing with an isolated stretch of time; everything seems to have a beginning and an end. And it would appear that a series of such experiences, lives, ages, or epochs, when successively arranged, constitutes a straightaway drive, an isolated event of time flashing momentarily across the infinite face of eternity. But when we look at all this from behind the scenes, a more comprehensive view and a more complete understanding suggest that such an explanation is inadequate, disconnected, and wholly unsuited properly to account for, and otherwise to correlate, the transactions of time with the underlying purposes and basic reactions of eternity.


 No.3314

112:7.1 Thought Adjuster fusion imparts eternal actualities to personality which were previously only potential. Among these new endowments may be mentioned: fixation of divinity quality, past-eternity experience and memory, immortality, and a phase of qualified potential absoluteness.

>past-eternity experience and memory

I think the Urantia papers say the Thought Adjuster is a fragment of God's Spirit indwelling your mind, and it has had many past lives indwelling beings on other worlds or universes; so as you fuse with the Thought Adjuster the experiences and memory of the Thought Adjuster is imparted onto you, your personality, as well as 'fixation of divine quality' and immortality.


 No.3373

Past indwellings is more accurate.


 No.3374

>>3314

The term past-eternity implies that we are a current cycle is eternity. I suspect that the Havona system was built is the first eternity. The Adjuster might as well give us that experience.




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 No.2560[Reply]

I've been researching religion quite a bit, and determined that Sufism or Hinduism are my best bet. They are both very traditional, spiritual, and recognize other faiths. It's hard to choose between the two. Technically speaking I'm not missing out on any spiritual opportunities because they're both based on the same primordial tradition. But other factors make the decision difficult.

Due to being raised Christian, Islam might be a lot easier to convert to, as they are both semitic religions. It would also make me a lot more welcomed should I ever expatriate to the mid-east. On the other hand Islam attracts a lot of fundamentalist types in the same way modern Christianity tends to. They might be very inhospitable to esoteric beliefs. Another issue is the concept of Hadith which makes Islam extremely difficult to decipher, as you have to hit the ground running. As an American Republican it might also alienate me, but politics shouldn't influence personal religion beliefs.

Hinduism would be good because it is very inclusive. The scriptures are also easier to understand: the Vedas, Upanishads, and Gita are going to be 99.9% of all discussion. It also has more sentimental value because it is an Aryan religion. The downsides would have to be navigating all the various denominations; Hinduism has far more branches than Islam. Technically Hinduism can be considered monotheistic, but it might alienate me from Muslims due to being considered polytheistic by most. I don't really care for murthi idolatry, but this is not a condemnation of it either.

I'm kind of leaning towards Hinduism just because it seems to be a "greater" religion. But Islam might fit my western personality more. What do you guys think? Any advice?

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 No.2630

>>2600

What is the best Eastern Orthodox mysticism?


 No.2636

>>2600

if you're going greek, go eastern rite catholic. Orthodox purity+Catholic Authority.


 No.2665

>>2560

Sufis are no less extreme or more extreme than any other Muslim sect. Some of the greatest legal jurists such as Al-Ghazali were Sufis. Sufis are as likely to attack you for heresy as any other Muslim group.

Hindus might think of you as a hipster orientalist though but would probably be accepting of nontraditional beliefs.

I think in the long run you In any case you might have much more acceptance among Hindus for very nontraditional beliefs.


 No.3367

>>2560

Sufism is monotheistic and I'd say that makes it better


 No.3370

Why not both?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satpanth

>Satpanth can be described as a synthesis of Hinduism and Ismailism as most who refer to themselves as "Satpanthi" claim they are Hindu and retain their Hindu names and traditions. This has resulted in a unique syncretism in which adherents strongly employ Hindu symbols, especially the Om and Swastika, keep Sanskrit names, and observe all mainstream Hindu religious occasions, while prayers can also include the fusion of Persian and Arabic Duas.




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 No.3354[Reply]

Jesus of Nazareth 1977

https://imdb.com/title/tt0075520/

4 day viewing starting tomorrow December 18th-22nd 5 PM CST(11 PM UTC)

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 No.3134[Reply]

Going beyond the greasy kid's stuff.

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 No.3147

>>3144

What was your experience of cosmic consciousness like?


 No.3150

>>3145

Older people like me…I don't feel old. I feel like the same 8 year old I've always been. But the body is older, less flexible, a few wrinkles…it's weird. It's also peculiar being old enough to outlive people you've known for decades. All those tv & movie & rock stars that were so young & beautiful, now old and ridiculous looking…

I am familiar with the Urantia papers. Not my cup of coffee. They probably inspired the Seth books by Jane Roberts, also not my cup. Both are not high level enough. Higher than the Bible, but not nearly high enough. There is no higher concept than Perfect Eternal Conscious Energy. There is no Better News than every physical creature and its life in this temporary physical universe is the product of its perfect spiritual self.

What other books have rang your bell?


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 No.3152

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>>3150

Well look at Dave Navarro, he's 51!

Are there any books that specifically speak of 'Perfect Eternal Conscious Energy' on a high level?

I like many of the sacred texts from the major world religions..

Carlos Castaneda and Robert Anton Wilson for quasi-fictional spirituality


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 No.3224[Reply]

Seems "scribes" harassed Jesus but wrote such out as they "posted" on their net of the day: small minds. The "media" of the day may even have written in the creation of a "church" in an attempt to intercept the power of and in, Faith, Jesus was attempting to teach. But then …..

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 No.3241

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Just as Jesus left peace along the trail somewhere, I leave Christianity and instead am prepared to "attack" the church as an obvious foreign "entry" of words at "..the rock upon which my church will be built". This "concept" of "church" is in disagreement with Jesus instruction on prayer: non theatrical and to the point. Only in "do this in remembrance" can we hint of "church". "The Church" was nothing but a power grab to control how "the words of Jesus" were to be interpreted… in favor of the church. See

https://youtu.be/Ye0EE7mtn7k

in early development where I attempt to show what I believe Jesus said in referring to "go to Him that sent me." It is in very rough form and difficult to read/follow. Through "the life force" as in "I am", God is within each of us unless we ignore, and mask out that "foreign direction we often sense.


 No.3242

>>3241

interesting video


 No.3266

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He said "woe unto those who would lead (the innocent) such as these astray", or something much like this. What the fake news, and other liars such as teachers and professors do to captive audiences, "innocent" students, is unforgivable. The false reality the fake news presents as "real" is unforgivable; it is such as they that are driving the world insane. The Spirit Of Christ will wipe such as these away; expect it, and deal with it.


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Those believing in God, usually believe in the "power" of prayer. If "our (collective) vision" is unclear, fogged by false realities created by false prophets, "We" can ask for "clarification of what we believe we are being presented". This is how "We" can collectively "take out" the FAKEs "prophess" falsities. If You Pray, Pray For Truth.


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Looking at the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem, it seems to fit "that great awful thing standing on Holy Ground. All we need is he who is "blessed…" as in "Blessed is He that comes in the name of The Lord." which just might be coming from the "new country" to who was given Jesus promise.




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 No.3272[Reply]

>The Urantia Book is approximately 2,000 pages long, and consists of a body of 196 "papers" divided in four parts, and an introductory foreword:

Part I, titled "The Central and Superuniverses", addresses what the authors consider the highest levels of creation, including the eternal and infinite "Universal Father", his Trinity associates, and the "Isle of Paradise".

Part II, "The Local Universe", describes the origin, administration, and personalities of the local universe of "Nebadon", the part of the cosmos where Earth resides. It presents narratives on the inhabitants of local universes and their work as it is coordinated with a scheme of spiritual ascension and progression of different orders of beings, including humans, angels, and others.

Part III, "The History of Urantia", compiles a broad history of the Earth, presenting a purported explanation of the origin, evolution, and destiny of the world and its inhabitants. Topics include Adam and Eve, Melchizedek, essays on the concept of the Thought Adjuster, "Religion in Human Experience", and "Personality Survival".

Part IV, "The Life and Teachings of Jesus", is the largest part at 775 pages, and is often noted as the most accessible[34] and most impressive,[35] narrating a detailed biography of Jesus that includes his childhood, teenage years, family life, and public ministry, as well as the events that led to his crucifixion, death, and resurrection. Its papers continue about appearances after he rose, Pentecost and, finally, "The Faith of Jesus".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ura

 No.3307

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I think the guy on the right is a spiritual fraud with delusions of grandeur.

He claims his books are a continuation of the Urantia papers

He claims in a past-life he was the person the Urantia papers came from

He claims Gabriel has fused with him

https://www.reddit.com/r/Urantia/comments/7nhu8a/have_any_of_you_heard_of_gabriel_of_urantia/


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 No.2775[Reply]

Post temples, shrines, places of worship etc

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>The largest and most impressive temple complex in the world, built between 9th and 14th centuries.

Temples in the video: Angkor Wat (0:05), Angkor Thom (3:20), Terrace of the Elephants (3:20), Baphuon (3:41), Bayon (4:09), Ta Prohm (6:15), Preah Khan (7:56), Banteay Kdei (9:00), Pre Rup (9:35), Neak Pean (9:59), Banteay Srey (10:11), Bakong (10:32), Phnom Bakheng (10:45).


 No.3333

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>>3123

Another pic of the Bahai temple.


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97:8.1 The custom of looking upon the record of the experiences of the Hebrews as sacred history and upon the transactions of the rest of the world as profane history is responsible for much of the confusion existing in the human mind as to the interpretation of history. And this difficulty arises because there is no secular history of the Jews. After the priests of the Babylonians exile had prepared their new record of God's supposedly miraculous dealings with the Hebrews, the sacred history of Israel as portrayed in the Old Testament, they carefully and completely destroyed the existing records of Hebrew affairs—such books as "The Doings of the Kings of Israel" and "The Doings of the Kings of Judah," together with several other more or less accurate records of Hebrew history.

97:8.2 In order to understand how the devastating pressure and the inescapable coercion of secular history so terrorized the captive and alien-ruled Jews that they attempted the complete rewriting and recasting of their history, we should briefly survey the record of their perplexing national experience. It must be remembered that the Jews failed to evolve an adequate nontheologic philosophy of life. They struggled with their original and Egyptian concept of divine rewards for righteousness coupled with dire punishments for sin. The drama of Job was something of a protest against this erroneous philosophy. The frank pessimism of Ecclesiastes was a worldly wise reaction to these overoptimistic beliefs in Providence.

97:8.3 But five hundred years of the overlordship of alien rulers was too much for even the patient and long-suffering Jews. The prophets and priests began to cry: "How long, O Lord, how long?" As the honest Jew searched the Scriptures, his confusion became worse confounded. An olden seer promised that God would protect and deliver his "chosen people." Amos had threatened that God would abandon Israel unless they re-established their standards of national righteousness. The scribe of Deuteronomy had portrayed the Great Choice—as between the good and the evil, the blessing and the curse. Isaiah the first had preached a beneficent king-deliverer. Jeremiah had proclaimed an era of inner righteousness—the covenant written on the tablets of the heart. The second Isaiah talked about salvation by sacrifice and redemption. Ezekiel proPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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97:9.1 There never were twelve tribes of the Israelite—only three or four tribes settled in Palestine. The Hebrew nation came into being as the result of the union of the so-called Israelites and the Canaanites. "And the children of Israel dwelt among the Canaanites. And they took their daughters to be their wives and gave their daughters to the sons of the Canaanites." The Hebrews never drove the Canaanites out of Palestine, notwithstanding that the priests' record of these things unhesitatingly declared that they did.

97:9.2 The Israelitish consciousness took origin in the hill country of Ephraim; the later Jewish consciousness originated in the southern clan of Judah. The Jews (Judahites) always sought to defame and blacken the record of the northern Israelite (Ephraimites).

97:9.3 Pretentious Hebrew history begins with Saul's rallying the northern clans to withstand an attack by the Ammonites upon their fellow tribesmen—the Gileadites—east of the Jordan. With an army of a little more than three thousand he defeated the enemy, and it was this exploit that led the hill tribes to make him king. When the exiled priests rewrote this story, they raised Saul's army to 330,000 and added "Judah" to the list of tribes participating in the battle.

97:9.4 Immediately following the defeat of the Ammonites, Saul was made king by popular election by his troops. No priest or prophet participated in this affair. But the priests later on put it in the record that Saul was crowned king by the prophet Samuel in accordance with divine directions. This they did in order to establish a "divine line of descent" for David's Judahite kingship.

97:9.5 The greatest of all distortions of Jewish history had to do with David. After Saul's victory over the Ammonites (which he ascribed to Yahweh) the Philistines became alarmed and began attacks on the northern clans. David and Saul never could agree. David with six hundred men entered into a Philistine alliance and marched up the coast to Esdraelon. At Gath the Philistines ordered David off the field; they feared he might go over to Saul. David retired; the Philistines attacked and defeated Saul. They could not have done this had David been loyal to Israel. David's armyPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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97:9.8 The difference between sacred and profane history is well illustrated by the two differing stories concerning making David king as they are found in the Old Testament. A part of the secular story of how his immediate followers (his army) made him king was inadvertently left in the record by the priests who subsequently prepared the lengthy and prosaic account of the sacred history wherein is depicted how the prophet Samuel, by divine direction, selected David from among his brethren and proceeded formally and by elaborate and solemn ceremonies to anoint him king over the Hebrews and then to proclaim him Saul's successor.

97:9.9 So many times did the priests, after preparing their fictitious narratives of God's miraculous dealings with Israel, fail fully to delete the plain and matter-of-fact statements which already rested in the records.

97:9.10 David sought to build himself up politically by first marrying Saul's daughter, then the widow of Nabal the rich Edomite, and then the daughter of Talmai, the king of Geshur. He took six wives from the women of Jebus, not to mention Bathsheba, the wife of the Hittite.

97:9.11 And it was by such methods and out of such people that David built up the fiction of a divine kingdom of Judah as the successor of the heritage and traditions of the vanishing northern kingdom of Ephraimite Israel. David's cosmopolitan tribe of Judah was more gentile than Jewish; nevertheless the oppressed elders of Ephraim came down and "anointed him king of Israel." After a military threat, David then made a compact with the Jebusites and established his capital of the united kingdom at Jebus ( Jerusalem ), which was a strong-walled city midway between Judah and Israel. The Philistines were aroused and soon attacked David. After a fierce battle they were defeated, and once more Yahweh was established as "The Lord God of Hosts."

97:9.12 But Yahweh must, perforce, share some of this glory with the Canaanite gods, for the bulk of David's army was non-Hebrew. And so there appears in your record (overlooked by the Judahite editors) this telltale statement: "Yahweh has broken my enemies before me. Therefore he called the name of the place Baal-Perazim." And they did this becPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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97:9.16 After David's death Solomon purged the political machine of all northern influences but continued all of the tyranny and taxation of his father's regime. Solomon bankrupted the nation by his lavish court and by his elaborate building program: There was the house of Lebanon, the palace of Pharaoh's daughter, the temple of Yahweh, the king's palace, and the restoration of the walls of many cities. Solomon created a vast Hebrew navy, operated by Syrian sailors and trading with all the world. His harem numbered almost one thousand.

97:9.17 By this time Yahweh's temple at Shiloh was discredited, and all the worship of the nation was centered at Jebus in the gorgeous royal chapel. The northern kingdom returned more to the worship of Elohim. They enjoyed the favor of the Pharaohs, who later enslaved Judah, putting the southern kingdom under tribute.

97:9.18 There were ups and downs—wars between Israel and Judah. After four years of civil war and three dynasties, Israel fell under the rule of city despots who began to trade in land. Even King Omri attempted to buy Shemer's estate. But the end drew on apace when Shalmaneser III decided to control the Mediterranean coast. King Ahab of Ephraim gathered ten other groups and resisted at Karkar; the battle was a draw. The Assyrian was stopped but the allies were decimated. This great fight is not even mentioned in the Old Testament.

97:9.19 New trouble started when King Ahab tried to buy land from Naboth. His Phoenician wife forged Ahab's name to papers directing that Naboth's land be confiscated on the charge that he had blasphemed the names of "Elohim and the king." He and his sons were promptly executed. The vigorous Elijah appeared on the scene denouncing Ahab for the murder of the Naboths. Thus Elijah, one of the greatest of the prophets, began his teaching as a defender of the old land mores as against the land-selling attitude of the Baalim, against the attempt of the cities to dominate the country. But the reform did not succeed until the country landlord Jehu joined forces with the gypsy chieftain Jehonadab to destroy the prophets (real estate agents) of Baal at Samaria.

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97:9.25 With the overthrow of Necho by Nebuchadnezzar, Judah fell under the rule of Babylon and was given ten years of grace, but soon rebelled. When Nebuchadnezzar came against them, the Judahites started social reforms, such as releasing slaves, to influence Yahweh. When the Babylonian army temporarily withdrew, the Hebrews rejoiced that their magic of reform had delivered them. It was during this period that Jeremiah told them of the impending doom, and presently Nebuchadnezzar returned.

97:9.26 And so the end of Judah came suddenly. The city was destroyed, and the people were carried away into Babylon. The Yahweh-Baal struggle ended with the captivity. And the captivity shocked the remnant of Israel into monotheism.

97:9.27 In Babylon the Jews arrived at the conclusion that they could not exist as a small group in Palestine, having their own peculiar social and economic customs, and that, if their ideologies were to prevail, they must convert the gentiles. Thus originated their new concept of destiny—the idea that the Jews must become the chosen servants of Yahweh. The Jewish religion of the Old Testament really evolved in Babylon during the captivity.

97:9.28 The doctrine of immortality also took form at Babylon. The Jews had thought that the idea of the future life detracted from the emphasis of their gospel of social justice. Now for the first time theology displaced sociology and economics. Religion was taking shape as a system of human thought and conduct more and more to be separated from politics, sociology, and economics.

97:9.29 And so does the truth about the Jewish people disclose that much which has been regarded as sacred history turns out to be little more than the chronicle of ordinary profane history. Judaism was the soil out of which Christianity grew, but the Jews were not a miraculous people.


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97:10.1 Their leaders had taught the Israelites that they were a chosen people, not for special indulgence and monopoly of divine favor, but for the special service of carrying the truth of the one God over all to every nation. And they had promised the Jews that, if they would fulfill this destiny, they would become the spiritual leaders of all peoples, and that the coming Messiah would reign over them and all the world as the Prince of Peace.

97:10.2 When the Jews had been freed by the Persians they returned to Palestine only to fall into bondage to their own priest-ridden code of laws, sacrifices, and rituals. And as the Hebrew clans rejected the wonderful story of God presented in the farewell oration of Moses for the rituals of sacrifice and penance, so did these remnants of the Hebrew nation reject the magnificent concept of the second Isaiah for the rules, regulations, and rituals of their growing priesthood.

97:10.3 National egotism, false faith in a misconceived promised Messiah, and the increasing bondage and tyranny of the priesthood forever silenced the voices of the spiritual leaders (excepting Daniel, Ezekiel, Haggai, and Malachi); and from that day to the time of John the Baptist all Israel experienced an increasing spiritual retrogression. But the Jews never lost the concept of the Universal Father; even to the twentieth century after Christ they have continued to follow this Deity conception.

97:10.4 From Moses to John the Baptist there extended an unbroken line of faithful teachers who passed the monotheistic torch of light from one generation to another while they unceasingly rebuked unscrupulous rulers, denounced commercializing priests, and ever exhorted the people to adhere to the worship of the supreme Yahweh, the Lord God of Israel.

97:10.5 As a nation the Jews eventually lost their political identity, but the Hebrew religion of sincere belief in the one and universal God continues to live in the hearts of the scattered exiles. And this religion survives because it has effectively functioned to conserve the highest values of its followers. The Jewish religion did preserve the ideals of a people, but it failed to foster progress and encourage philosophic creative discoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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