Christianity is Anarchist

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Christianity is Anarchist Anonymous 09/25/14 (Thu) 07:05:48 No.33

1 Samuel 8:6-18

But when they said, “Give us a king to lead us,” this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the Lord. And the Lord told him: “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will claim as his rights.”

Samuel told all the words of the Lord to the people who were asking him for a king. He said, “This is what the king who will reign over you will claim as his rights:

He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots.

Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots.

He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers.

He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants.

He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants.

Your male and female servants and the best of your cattle and donkeys he will take for his own use.

He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.

When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the Lord will not answer you on that day.”

Anonymous 09/25/14 (Thu) 16:29:07 No.37

How is this anarchist in any way?

Anonymous 09/25/14 (Thu) 16:54:10 No.38

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Romans 13

Anonymous 09/26/14 (Fri) 21:48:41 No.40

This is when the Israelites were uber-mad that they didn't have an earthly king to rule over them; only prophets and judges set to enforce God's law.

So, basically God's saying, I'm cool with you guys following a King even though I saved you all from slavery, put you in a fertile land, and helped you kill everyone who was subhuman; but if he's bad, it's because y'all didn't listen to me.

Anonymous 09/26/14 (Fri) 21:56:21 No.41

>>40
an effective way of putting it

Anonymous 10/09/14 (Thu) 00:00:47 No.301

Why else do you think the anabaptists were persecuted so strongly?

Anonymous 10/11/14 (Sat) 20:30:46 No.340

>>33
If I'm off-base here I hope someone will correct me.

My opinion on the Old Testament is that it's a collection of stories, some of them historical, some allegorical, that are there to teach lessons. People like to take certain parts of the OT and say, "See! This specific thing has to be done by everyone everywhere!". Imo, people who do that are completely missing the point. Christianity isn't a governmental, economical, or political system. It's not of this world. The underlying message in almost every lesson in the OT is that when you don't maintain your faith in God and try to find the answers in worldly things, you lose your way and risk peril. People get so caught up in details that they completely forget about the prevailing themes.

Sold Out 10/11/14 (Sat) 20:49:29 No.342

>>33
No it isn't. You are a monarchist through and through. Jesus is the king. To accept otherwise is sin. Anarchism is the (un)law of Satan. That is why its colors red/black are his own.

Anonymous 10/12/14 (Sun) 05:36:48 No.344

>>33
The israelites were essentially whining "but daaaaad, all the OTHER COOL NATIONS have one!! Why can't I have one too?", that is, having a king.
With a king comes prestige, but also meant that they were following an earthly ruler rather than just God.
Nobody can serve two masters, and when the ruler turns from God, and people turn to the ruler, things go downhill.
There is not a dichotomy between monarchy and anarchy, this passage isn't in favour of the latter, and expresses the earthliness (and thus possibility of failure) of the former.

>>340
> Christianity isn't a governmental, economical, or political system. It's not of this world.
True, true. There are social teachings derived from the Bible- "Share with others, be generous and have a giving heart" or "be charitable". The trap is deriving from these a system that supports them -someone saying "WELL THAT'S SOCIALISM, WE GOTTA SOCIALISM IF WE'RE CHRISTIAN, IF YOU DON'T SOCIALISM YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG. SUPPORT SOCIALISM, VOTE SOCIALIST.". This pulls the focus away from Christianity, and then the front falls off.

> The underlying message in almost every lesson in the OT is that when you don't maintain your faith in God and try to find the answers in worldly things, you lose your way and risk peril.
Exactly- we've all got to watch ourselves - it's all to easy to fall into the trap of putting a system,ideology etc in front of God, faith and the bible. It should always follow in tow. Otherwise, we run the risk of fettering our faith to a system/ideology, and soon start using Christianity as just a tool to justify said ideology.

PS: Please correct and critique my TL;DR comment as necessary, I'd hate to have said or implied something wrong.

Anonymous SAGE! 10/12/14 (Sun) 05:42:23 No.345

>>344
>it's all to easy to fall into the trap of putting a system,ideology etc in front of God, faith and the bible.
and I should add, the big issue of our time is putting materialism, earthly matters, as more important than God.

Build house on the rock- centre life on Christ.