No.5
Why aren't you orthodox yet, anon?
No.6
>>5Because I'm converting to Russian Orthodoxy
No.12
>>6Theologically: Calvinism is the only consistent, logical and good system of Christianity to follow; you don't just join a church becuz of 'muh history'
No.14
>>12>calvinism>God is playing mind-games with humanity No.15
>>12The Calvinist God is evil and arbitrary.
The classical Christian God is logical and Good.
No.19
>>12>Calvinism>posting alchemical emblem painted by a Catholic No.22
>>12>Calvinism>Men who compiled the Bible were inerrant when doing it>They were wrong about everything else No.23
>>5I don't live near an Orthodox church.
No.25
>>15because I'm already protestant
No.26
>>22No, don't forget, they were also wrong about what books belong in the bible.
No.32
>>5Because Catholic is close enough.
No.36
>>32Catholicism also exists within the cultural milieu of the Anglosphere and the west, and has exerted great historical influence on both.
As westerners (assuming we are westerners) the Catholic Church is "our place" culturally and geographically if we want to follow an Apostolic Church in our place and time in a way that is most relatable and practicable to us.
Despite our theological differences I feel like every Orthodox should be able to appreciate that.
No.53
>>5Because I'm a Runt mix of english, french and primarily native american. I can't just join a "greek" or some race orthodox church, it doesn't make sense.
Though I have come to have a much higher appreciation of a liturgy.
No.61
>>5I am, I converted from fundamentalist Protestantism and was Chrismated 2 years ago
No.67
I want to, but I'm not sure exactly where to begin. I thought I'd start by writing an email to the local church, but I'm not sure what to write.
No.77
I am nominally catholic. I have been slowly becoming more interested in becoming religious. Over the last year or three i have been looking into it, and i have great respect for orthodoxy. I have considered converting, however i have no idea where to start. I assume just walking into a OCA church. Do the ethnic (greek, russian) ones allow non ethnic converts, or should i look for an OCA?
also i have a fear that the surge in orthodox exposure is some kind of Russian propaganda or something.
No.88
>>77Did you receive all the sacraments up to and including confirmation as a Catholic?
What exactly is attracting you to Orthodoxy instead of Catholicism? If it's the ancient liturgies and mysticism I can assure Catholicism has all of that if you're willing to look for it. I'd recommend looking for a parish that celebrates the Traditional Latin Mass, if that would be your kind of thing.
If it's something more theologically or philosophically substantive I'd also like to hear it.
I'm not saying you should stop investigating Orthodoxy, just wanting you make sure you have good reason to turn away from the Catholic Church.
and 'lol pedo priests' is not a good enough reason to leave the Church. No.101
>tfw Calvinist
No.103
While i was christian for a few years when i was younger i wanted to explore orthodoxy but there just simply weren't any orthodox churches where i lived so i somewhat begrudgingly joined the catholic church. I have decided to leave the catholic church in favor of my ethic European paganism.
No.104
>>101Why are you Calvinist anon?
No.113
>>104Because God decided he would be.
No.132
No.146
Posting my Orthodox feel OC
No.149
Does anyone know where I can get a good icon of Christ online for cheap?
I want one to do devotionals at, but I'm a poorfag and everywhere I go irl sells them for like $40-50.
No.152
Because I reject almost every single council.
No.161
>>155Well, there's a lot of reasons, and I won't write them all. But let's say that I think that the demiurge isn't the Father and that Jesus is the son of God by adoption.
No.172
I'm Greek; for some reason my grandfather ended up going to a Roman Catholic church when he came to America at the turn of the century. Since he was completely isolated from the family back home and a pre-teen, I guess he just went to a church, learned English, and by then he was already confirmed or what-have-you so he technically converted. Something similar happened to my Grandmother.
The long and short of it is that my entire Greek family is Greek Orthodox while the American branch is Roman Catholic, but neither branch sees any real differences aside from theological scruples for priests to argue about.
To make matters even better, the Greeks love our popes. John Paul the second really captured everyone's hearts and his efforts to unite the faith were apparently really well received by my Greek cousins. They apparently adore the new pope too, but no idea what they think of the pope emeritus.
What I'm saying is, I just don't think there is any real point of converting between Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic unless one of the tiny theological differences makes it impossible for an anon to do otherwise.
No.178
>>172Well, the new order mass is just awful. The Low Latin Mass is boring. The High Latin Mass is never used. The Liturgy of John Chrysostom, in the Byzantine scale, is poetry in motion.
But, for most of the theological issues, there really is no difference between Rome, Constantinople, or Alexandria.
The fact is a council should be called to finally rule on Miaphysitism and whether "from the Father through the Son" are canonical.
No.186
>>172If you want to be a priest and have a wife, you're not gonna find that in Catholicism, for old school it's either Lutheranism or Eastern Orthodox.
No.207
Because my closest Orthodox church is a 40min drive away.
No.211
>tfw believe in Orthodoxy 100%
>tfw no Orthodox church around me
>tfw will never be a part of God's church as I have never been baptized as an Orthodox Christian
What am I to do /rel/?
No.217
>>211Move to somewhere that does have an Orthodox Church, or get permission to create a new one in your area
No.243
>>186>…for old school it's either Lutheranism or Eastern Orthodox.One of those is not at all even close to either of the others.
Hint: it's the fakey protestant religion.
No.314
>>5I-I'm scared, anon.
My family's been in our denomination for five generations (ever since it arrived to our city) and I'm the last one of my generation that's still a member (I'm 21), while others have left for other denominations.
I love Orthodoxy for the tradition, and because I'm an Identitarian. However, since other Identitarians have been excommunicated for their views, I fear that the Orthodox Church in the U.S. isn't as based as the ones that are in Eastern Europe.
No.315
>>217>or get permission to create a new one in your areaWouldn't he have to be a Priest to do that or does this just mean that clergy would arrive and start one for you?
No.316
>>161What are you, a Universalist?
No.319
>>314The Catholic Church has never excommunicated someone for their political views, unless those views were explicitly heretical and they were publicly pronouncing them or exerting power with them.
I have never heard of a Catholic being excommunicated for being a right-wing nationalist or identitarian, as was the case with Matt Heimbach and the Orthodox church he was a member of, which you seem to be alluding to.
I suppose it may be the centralized nature of the Catholic Church contra the Orthodox Patriarchates. If a Catholic bishop excommunicates someone, the Pope will likely look into the matter to ensure fairness and consistent application of doctrine. Whereas I get the impression that Orthodox prelates mostly rely on their own conscience when it comes to these decisions. The Pope would likely have intervened in some manner in the Heimbach case, whereas to my knowledge the Ecumenical Patriarch may not even know it occurred.
If you find yourself unable to remain in the Orthodox Church for any reason I would encourage you to look into Catholicism. If you find your conscience demands you remain Orthodox, I can respect that as well.
Also, if traditional liturgy is a turning point, there are Eastern Catholic Churches in communion with Rome that practice liturgies virtually identical to the Orthodox ones. And of course there are still Roman churches that celebrate the Latin Mass. Something to think about.
Good luck bro
No.320
>>316Sounds more like a gnostic or Marcionite, the son by adoption bit sounds vaguely Arian.
I've only just started studying the Early Church and the heresies that plagued it, so I'm not 100% sure.
No.322
>>319>as was the case with Matt Heimbach and the Orthodox church he was a member of, which you seem to be alluding to.That's exactly what I was referencing.
I'm not Orthodox, I'm in a Protestant Demoination. I was answering OP's question
>why aren't you OrthodoxBecause I'm the last generation of my family to be in my current denomination (I care deeply for tradition and continuity), and because I don't want to step on any Orthodox toes for being Identitarian/Nationalist.
I still respect Orthodox and Catholics, though. I watch EWTN on TV every once in a while, and I'm into Dugin and listening to Orthodox Priests on youtube and all the imagery and whatnot.
No.323
>>322Ah, my mistake.
My advice still stands though, if you find difficulties within your denomination.
No.324
>>322I have similar views that have made Orthodox very appealing to me, but I question if that is for the right reasons. Something just feels wrong to me about adopting a religion due to my ideology. I'm always seconding guessing myself and thinking, "Do I truly believe or do I just think all the decorative and traditional appearances are alluring?". Feels idolatrous man.
No.332
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>>324Observing the perennial traditions of the Apostolic Church is not idolatrous.
Joining the Church that Christ established is not a betrayal of conscience, it is an affirmation, it is a homecoming.
No.349
I will soon be
No.354
>>5I'm working on it. I've been a catecuhmen for over a year.
No.355
>>207I drive 50 minutes to my church. You get used to it.
No.364
>>5Because I'm pagan, and christianity is a foreign middle eastern slave cult.
No.377
I live in a big city, and there are Russian, Greek, and Antiochian Orthodox churches nearby. Which one should I go to? They all offer liturgy in English, so that's not a concern.
I know that they all have the same doctrines on paper, but are there any unspoken differences?
No.379
>>377Greek is probably the closest you'll get to the original Orthodox Church.
No.390
>>379Thanks, man. I went to the liturgy at the Greek one yesterday, and it was awesome. The people were really friendly, and one priest that I talked to said they were starting a catechism class next week.
I'm still going to check out the other two churches, though. My experience was very good, but I still want to see the alternatives. Only problem was that I'm pretty sure everyone else there was ethnic Greek, so I felt a little bit out of place. I'm sure I'd get used to it though.
No.431
Daily reminder that there are Eastern Rite Catholics.