/removemask/ - Mask removal

>>2707

31-32 are my favorite

could give out the badges as wedge shapes, like the artist depicted, or we could have a the wedges/larger circle be a badge case, and have just the inner circles awarded as badges

>>2707

I don't really like any of these. The ones I dislike the least are 10-11, 24-25, and 31-32.

I also don't care if the badges interlock or not or are circular or whatever, I just care that the badge designs themselves are good.

For those of you that do care, I think it's important to note that we can still have a circular key that the badges go into without the badges actually being shaped like that. For instances, the badges themselves could be like the first few sets in that image, but the badge case/menu where you have them in game could have slots that make a disc, and the badges placed into those could act as a key.

31-32 could very much be that as each badge is clearly merely a circular piece in the center of each arc.

>>2707

imo we should just go forward with 31-32. shit looks great.

>>2707

31-32 seems to be the cool kid in town. Its my favourite out of the options, but I think some of the individual badges could use some work. Sword one in particular doesnt do a good job showing its buggyness as much as it shows the gym leaders a weaboo.

>>2707

Here's the survey itself:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/create/survey/preview?sm=M3Qk1Bxdaxq_2B_2FBwLl74FMOlJfaTkywWjplD0VSR4UyK4E1gP4UU3Snjw2itTAsTG

Maybe another week?

>>2945

I like them, in my opinion, the circle doesn't have to be a perfect circle, so you could try tweaking it here and there to get better badges.

>>2945

I like these because they can be put in a badge case that isn't a circle, and it's not immediately obvious they're interlocking. Then the badge gate can have them interlock.

>>2956

>>2945

Agree with this, though they would need to be simpler for spriteability

>>2707

IMHO opinion 16-17 is the best due to how good the colours and design of the badges work in tandem with each other. The other badges should take from that, especially the vibrant colours.

31-32 is nice, but a too obvious circle and maybe also too dark/brown, we ain't making a "next gen" game here

Also testing new trip since I forgot mine

>>2959

*31-32 is nice too, but the circle is too obvious

>>2946

Most of the lore behind Quetz or any other legendaries being known by the Urobos people is still unconfirmed, so I'd refrain from obvious references to Quetz in our art just now

Regardless, that thing's nice. Things like that might make the game too esoteric though, since Ouroboros and all that.

I've had this idea ever since people mentioned VS portraits in the hole in the center of the badge circle. I can't even hope to sprite this in less than 2 months of trial and error though, so I figured I'd just draw it and leave it here.

>>3031

I fucking love some of them. Wish that there were more colors though. Too much black and bland colors. I'd tinker with the colors for the bug gym and the dark gym fwiw

>>3140

Sounds good. I'll do that once I find the time.

>>3385

I adore the Ice, Steel and Water badges. I like the Bug and PsyFi badge as well.

Whilst I get why you made the Dark badge yellow, I don't think it suits it. In addition, the GraGho badge and Fire badges look… uninspired, for lack of a better word.

>>3390

These look fucking awesome but the dark type badge needs work. I'd have no idea what it's supposed to be without you telling me. Maybe try redesigning it to look like a circus tent or something card-related like a spade, right now it doesn't really tie into the gym's theme. Dark Type is pretty hard to personify in a symbol but going with the gym's theme would make it easier.

Also requesting the water type badge be a sub instead of a boat, since Cameron is a diver and his gym is underwater. Should be a minor change.

Also you could try shaping the Steel badge like an anvil if its current shape displeases you.

>>3391

hmm, making the dark badge into a circus tent seems too simple, and it would have the same shape as the water one which is right next to it, making it easier to tell they're puzzle pieces.

what do you think about changing the current one's head into a circus clown? cuz u know, clowns are the personification of all things dark and evil? or maybe a harlequin … though theyre practically similar

>>3390

YOU DID A GOOD JOB

they are beautiful and quasi abstract. the negative space they make (circles) it fantastic as well.

maybe replace the flower with something less cliche though. i'd suggest a lilly instead, as they are traditionally associated with funerals.

the dark badge is my least favorite atm.

>>3394

I like the top Dark badge very much. Also I prefer the old flower on the GraGho badge, it looks more like a flower and less like some sort of gemstone because of the circle in the middle. I also think the bug-type badge could use a second color.

These are easily my favorite badges so far out of any set. Good work.

>>3390

>>3394

Now THIS is lovely.

I can see absolutely no faults with this. Every single one of these badges is great. I'd vote for these in a heartbeat.

I agree with Requestee, the top dark badge is the better of the three variants. I also prefer the flower for the Grass/Ghost badge.

Would there be a possibility to introduce a few more varied colours into the designs? Just a few highlights, nothing extravagant.

I'd vote for these in a heartbeat.

>>3407

By top I meant the top one from the second picture, the one with the intersected face.

>>3390

>>3394

>>3385

Oh wow these are cool. Not sure if I like them better then a few of the other ones, but the are still really great.

>>3394

GOAT

Loving the colour-balance, though water and ice could be a bit more different in colour.

>>3422

I was talking to a friend about these badges and she had some critiques ideas for your badges.

>too much going on, too busy

>nah, as a concept it works

>you need to tone the voltage on the details of the badges like

>waaaay the fuck down

>and find some way to make them easy to differentiate

>visually, from each other

>picking each badge out is like a finding waldo thing

>I'd say to keep the overall concept

>you can still work with that

>but the badges need to be toned a bit down

>another choice

>the easy way

>is that when you're seeing them in the menu, you can cycle through them and the badges get highlighted individually

>that would solve that

>you'd still need to have them separate from each other

>when you go to select them

>in your badge case or whatever

>select the badge case

>get badges

>select that

>start with the first badge, all other badges are darkened

>cycle though

>each badge gets highlighted individually

>>3422

I'm gonna disagree with Dunky here and say that these are brilliant.

I love how colourful they are. It sets them apart from GF's boring badge designs.

>>3424

it seems like the person you were talking to is under the interpretation that the badge case would have the ring in it?

i thought the badge case would show the individual badges, and then they would join together circularly at the VR gate

>>3435

what was your intention for how these would be displayed in the badge case?

>>3436

Badge case holds them in a ring like fashion or there was some sort of ring that you place them in as an option.

>>3394

top left here is my preference as far as the dark badge is concerned

>>3436

same as what you thought

>>3435

While the badge designs are great individually, the mini-rings between each badge defeats the purpose of having the badges in a ring.

It takes out elements of having the badges interlinked with a massive circle each time. I get the appeal of having some of the badges be a similar shape to their "opposite", but I personally don't like it.

ROUTE TO THE BADGES FINALIZATION!

So Badges are going to be finalized!

You have two months from today to submit all Badge sets!

Submit your badges in sets of 8. What does that mean? When you submit your 8 badges, you will submit one badge for each gym. So each set has all 8 gym badges! We will vote on badges by set to maintain style and synergy between designs.

If you see something you like with another artist, collaborate with them and make a set that works! But we won't be voting on individual badges because as of now, we are still in the air with regards to how we will have our badge case/trainer card/key thing work.

So rather than argue with one another over deeply rooted personal beliefs, let's respect that we have different desires for circles or no circles and submit what we submit as is. If you submit an interlocking wheel, specify that you are submitting this set as an interlocking wheel. If you are submitting these badges for separate use in some other capacity, specify that. We are not embolden to follow what you say as rule of cool prevails, but I'd like to think we would honor what wins.

There will be a week of feedback taking and interacting with the final, submitted designs before voting happens, but try to remember the early days of sage when people took feedback when designing badges before submitting them and submitted what the people liked by working with the people in the first place :).

If you submit 50 variations of the same badges with the tiniest of changes, it is legal, but people will laugh at you and make fun of you and it will be voted on.

With regards to specifics, with respect to the potential for our badges being on the trainer card, all badge sprites must be 32x32, so keep that in mind when designing your badges! http://pokemonessentials.wikia.com/wiki/Trainer_card

To make things easy for us, I whipped up a quick Strawpoll

http://strawpoll.me/5549262

to get an idea of what the current vox populi is towards our badges and what the desire is for their use. Pretty self-explanatory, but fill it out and we'll see where it goes from there :).

With regards to names, keep names in mind when making your badges and when you see other badges. When we get to the final round of badge design surveys, we will collect names for badges and get the name surveys rolling from there! Don't post them, however, until we get closer to the design submission deadline.

This isn't going to be rocket science guys, just have fun making badges and remember to submit badges!

Deadline is officially, 11/21 November 21st, 2015 A.D. at 12 Noon (UTC-6).

That's 1PM EST, 11AM CMT, 10AM PST, and 18:00 Greenwich Mean Time.

Any questions, just post em here and happy badge making!

>>5701

>There will be a week of feedback taking and interacting with the final, submitted designs before voting happens, but try to remember the early days of sage when people took feedback when designing badges before submitting them and submitted what the people liked by working with the people in the first place :).

When we said we (I, brigand, mage, and others) wanted a feedback period, we meant a feedback survey. IE: After the 21st, a survey would be made with all submissions, where people leave detailed feedback in the survey, then once the results from that are done, people would get another week or two to tweak the designs before the actual voting.

Also, almost tall of our deadlines use midnight at EST as the cutoff, I would appreciate it if you could do the same here. Lastly, will existing badge designs that are mad be automatically included, or just they be re-submitted?

>>3436

>i thought the badge case would show the individual badges, and then they would join together circularly at the VR gate

this

>>3435

As for how these could be changed, I wouldn't do much other than try to make sure thy had a unifying theme other than the circular combination. Unnova had each badge long and slender, with some having embedded gems all deltora quest-ey. Sinnoh badges were all backed with silver in a similar way. Gen I and II all had small symmetrical (sans two) badges. Hoenn and Kalos badges were all shit.

I personally like the percious stone idea, or maybe use of gold throughout the badges to connect them all and tie them to the flavour of the region.

>>5710

>use of gold throughout the badges to connect them all

yes please

>>5747

I just pulled an image off of google, I didn't wanna use any particular book cover.

>>5763

I'd change the colors too. They're all super bright and it takes away from the concepts of them. The gold looks good, but I'd probably use some darker colors for the interiors.

My only but would be that the gragho looks weird being colored all green. If you made the skull an amethyst or other purplish gemstone that'd probably achieve the design you're going for.

>>5765

can you combine the colors on this one with the interior gold of the previous one?

>>5766

Why not a "shine" effect like the badges in gen 4? When you "highlight" the badge, a gold shimmer passes over it (a thin "line" of the black turns to gold and travels over it). It'd just be an animated gif.

Does that make sense?

>>5765

Also, dunno if this helps but:

- Frost Badge

- Forge Badge/Pick Badge

- Cruise Badge/Depth Badge

- Mask Badge

- Blast Badge/Flare Badge/Boom Badge

- Interrobang Badge/Balance Badge

- Beetle Badge/Chitin Badge/Carapace Badge

- Rebirth Badge/Renewal Badge/Cycle Badge/Life Badge

BTW, are the badges supposed to mirror each other in shape? Cuz that's kinda cool. Might need to flip the Dark/GraGho Badge vertically so it's not obvious from the silhouette.

>>5770

Now we're talking!

>>5767

I fear it would be too busy, but I need to see it in action to make sure.

>>5779

I agree that a diving helmet would be the ideal symbol for Cameron. We have to submit them as part of a set though. I don't think you can easily get a diving helmet to fit in the space occupied by the shit currently in Xenon's mock up, so a direct replacement would be difficult.

>>5789

Chao, only 8 in a set. You've got like 3 different water badges and three different psyfi badges. Split em up

>>5789

Don't worry chaos. As shown in >>3435, the original psy/fi badge is vaguely the same shape as the current one. Having the psy/fi badge being the same shape as the steel one would break it.

>>5801

Ok that's nice

but rules are

POST IN SETS OF 8.

POST IN SETS OF 8 means you post in sets of 8. It's not going to be surveyed a la surveymonkey, it's going to be on the board.

If it is not in a set of 8, it won't be surveyed. I want that to be clear, you can submit an image with a different badge and that's ok, but keep in mind that doing what you're doing will not have it counted and in November I don't want to hear you bitching about your options being left out.

>>5813

Am I the only one who thinks the Steel badge there looks like a glory hole with a tongue poking through?

Going to review badges properly now.

>>5813

>>5814

All of them are pretty good. The style of them when drawn will make or break it (remember, big bold shapes).

LOVE the psy-fi badge without having to hammer in the ?! theme of the gym leaders.

Dark could also be the hat turned upside down with something coming out of it.

The bug one doesn't need the samurai theme. It could just be the net, maybe with a beetle horn or bug mandible tearing through part of it.

The GraGho one could look better when styalized. You could even do a Flower with a skull patten in the center (or a skull with petals around it)

>>5822

I like these a lot too, this is what I meant when I said earlier about badges being made up of big, bold shapes. The top Ice badge and the far left PsyFi badge are the best IMO. Despite what I said earlier, this PsyFi badge uses the ?! theme perfectly, mixing it with the ying/yang theme.

The GraGho is interesting, but the holes in the leaf need to look more like a skull or spooky face IMO. Unless that's not what you were going for?

>>5816

So here: >>5789 I need to make a different image for each combination of each change? So that's:

- GraGho badge being flipped

- Alternate Water badge made by Slug. (since he hasn't done it the way that's allowed)

- Alternate water badge by Slug altered by me

- First alternate PsyFi badge

- Second alternate psyfi badge

That's (5 x 5 =) 25 different combinations.

I just want to check before I make them; is this acceptable? Or would I be "overloading" the survey with too many options?

Going to review badges properly now.

>>5813

>>5814

All of them are pretty good. The style of them when drawn will make or break it (remember, big bold shapes).

LOVE the psy-fi badge without having to hammer in the ?! theme of the gym leaders.

Dark could also be the hat turned upside down with something coming out of it.

The bug one doesn't need the samurai theme. It could just be the net, maybe with a beetle horn or bug mandible tearing through part of it.

The GraGho one could look better when styalized. You could even do a Flower with a skull patten in the center (or a skull with petals around it)

>>5822

I like these a lot too, this is what I meant when I said earlier about badges being made up of big, bold shapes. The top Ice badge and the far left PsyFi badge are the best IMO. Despite what I said earlier, this PsyFi badge uses the ?! theme perfectly, mixing it with the ying/yang theme.

The GraGho is interesting, but the holes in the leaf need to look more like a skull or spooky face IMO. Unless that's not what you were going for?

>>5816

So here: >>5789 I need to make a different image for each combination of each change? So that's:

- GraGho badge being flipped

- Alternate Water badge made by Slug. (since he hasn't done it the way that's allowed)

- Alternate water badge by Slug altered by me

- First alternate PsyFi badge

- Second alternate psyfi badge

That's (5 x 5 =) 25 different combinations.

I just want to check before I make them; is this acceptable? Or would I be "overloading" the survey with too many options?

>>5822

I really really like that bug one

I'm replacing Dunky running the badge surveys so there are a few slight changes to the rules to give some freedom to edit the badge submissions, but still try and keep enough of a lid on them that we don't end up with way to much for any normal person to decide between.

So for example, while people are still required to submit 8 badges at a time, people, (including the artist), are allowed to suggest edits for the badges. Don't go overboard though. I don't want more than 3 variations on a badge per person.

Its also important that when making edits, you make sure that the edits still fit together! Its no good if they don't.

They have to follow the same style as the other badges in the set to avoid any frankensteining of designs.

While voting, people will vote on their favorite sets and their favorite badge variations separately and people will vote on names separately after the design survey.

An external voting calculator will be used to count the votes and give winners. because the calculator is really fancy, you can make abnormal votes like A>B=C.

In the event of ties, 1 runoff will be done.

Just post any questions here or in skype. I'm sure I've left a hole somewhere in this plan.

>>5831

I'm not really clear on what you mean by "allowed to suggest edits" or how that will work logistically, can you clarify?

****

Also can we please just have carson do it? No offense to you leda but he has a very long and good track record with surveys

>>5836

By that I mean that people can suggest edits to the badge designs like in >>5801. Dunky wasn't happy about that before. The idea being we can save some time with minor edits by doing it all in one swoop. We can get badges out of the way faster and get on to other things.

Also, rude.

>>5836

Can you please just suck my balls? See I can ask things too.

>>5831

Let me know when I can start name submissions and start the name surveys.

>>5839

i think regardless of whether or not edits are allowed during the submission/survey process, we should still have a minor changes process after the badges have been chosen in the same way we have for all our other designs

stay with me here though

instead of charging through and doing badges then minor changes immediately after once people have inevitably grown tired of badges, let's wait

pick badges, pick names, put them in demo 2.0, and then come back to them and do minor changes in a few months so that people actually care about them

>>5844

Your suggestion is compelling. It will give people a chance to detox from all the heated badge debates before returning to the topic. It might be a good idea just to get a variation in place to begin with though, so instead of just changing my plan for badges now, we can just add minor changes later.

>>5849

>so instead of just changing my plan for badges now, we can just add minor changes later.

i support this

>>5875

That is a thing of real beauty

But it actually bothers me quite a bit that they aren't arranged in proper order.

>>5875

individually:

Slope - really great interpretation of that concept, awesome

Forge - i like the design itself but i think the other steel proposals have done a better job of showing that it's a steel gym

Depth - i like the concept of a sub, but i do think it's too simplistic. i think the curviness of the lines has a lot to do with it. it looks like the outline of a fish colored like a sub instead of like a sub, if that makes sense?

Curtain - very nice. does a good job with the theme, seems like something gf would do for a similar gym, isn't too reliant on the circus theme

Duality- i don't really care for this one. i think it works well as a shape for quetzar's head, but as a standalone badge, it doesn't have a lot of pizzazz

Rocket - clean, simple, to the point. i like it

Pincer - see Rocket

Cycle/Infinity - i like the idea of an infinity vine that is both living and withered, but i don't feel like it's clear enough that the half of the vine is supposed to be dead

in general, i'm not that into the quetzar shape here. i don't like how the badges are all in different orientations, and i think the wing part looks sort of out of place. i prefer all of these as individual badges over a joined image

>>5822

Ice - i like the top one a lot. is the bottom one supposed to be a toboggan? the wiggly shape makes that unclear

Steel - seems a bit too plain. what would the background be on this?

Water - i love it. looks really cool

Dark - i'm unsure what i'm looking at here. it seems like a hat with something coming out of it? i'm hesitant to use a hat motif in the dark badges (even though i did it myself) because i think, even though shadini does wear a hat, that says "magic" which is distinct from "circus"

Fire - this is the best "it's an explosion" submission in this thread

Psyfi - i prefer the yin yang version, i like how that one is something as opposed to just the ?!

Bug - really great, probably the best one in this set

GraGho - would this be half dead/half alive? i think that could work, but i'm not very clear on what it is right now

>>5857

>>5849

>>5844

>>5840

>>5839

I don't care about minor changes as long as we get the feedback round that me, brigand, mage, and other people asked for.

>>5913

I think its reasonable. Since we will have a space between when the badge set is decided and when minor changes happen, it can go in there somewhere. I still expect that no minor changing will happen to the badges before 2.0 is out though.

>>5928

just to make sure you and majora are on the same page and there's no misinterpretations here:

majora wants, after the submissions are closed, to have a formal feedback survey where people give organized feedback on each submission, then after that, a chance to revise the submissions based on that feedback, before the actual surveying starts.

similar in setup to the way the plot outline surveys were done if you remember that

>>2945

i forgot about this set - i like these a lot, consider this a submission if it isn't already

>>5932

It's not just me that wants it, brigand and mage did too

>>5932

I do have basic survey monkey, and I doubt I will need advanced tools. I'll have a play and see.

As I said earlier, we will have plenty of time to run a survey since the discussion is planned to take place over the period 2.0 is released.

I'd just like to say, if somebody with the artistic streak can make game ready versions of sketcher's and carson's submissions, that would be great. We can't use them in game as is.

>>2945

That is impressive but again I need to express the need for them to go in order (at least in my mind)

>>5999

Really good! Close to official badges.

The steel badge is kinda close to the Mine badge from D/P/Plt, but that might be me.

The dark badge is VERY close in design to the balance badge.

And yes, the Gra/Gho badge is a bit simple, but the concept is sound (a plant with a skull/spooky face)

LOVE the Psy/Fi badge.

>>5999

that bug badge is GOAT, really love gragho, not a fan of the fire badge honestly. I'd be concerned that the psyfi looks too much like the soul badge and yeah, dark looks too close to balance badge.

Good stuff overall

>>6014

me btw

>>5999

ice - fantastic

steel - i like it as a steel badge, but the thing that seems off to me is that it has such an emphasis on pickaxes, which aren't used in forges at all

water - i prefer the version up top (looks more like a research sub to me), but both are fantastic

dark - i'm gonna reserve judgement because i'd need to see it colored i think. i like the concept of it looking like a mask, maybe you can put a little more emphasis on the mask element to make it more distinct from the balance badge?

fire - ii think this could be improved by using more straight and angular lines as opposed to smooth, curving ones. it kind of looks like bedazzled right now

psyfi - looks awesome, i think slug's concerns about similarity to the soul badge will be mitigated by color

bug - great

grass/ghost - i like the simplicity of this one, and the fact that the shape seems very badge-like. i can't think of anything to add that would improve it.

overall fantastic work, would def vote for these

>>5999

Ice - Fantastic. Great idea, I love how it works as a rolling snowball, a snowman AND a mountain.

Steel - Also great.

Water - I like the simplicity of it. I needed a few moments to see the submarine, but once I did it really clicked.

Dark - Needs work. The question mark motif is already used for PsyFi, and using it more than once is not a good idea. I liked the idea of a mask or a clown. Maybe work off of a Venitian carnival mask or something.

Fire - I like the blooming flame idea, but it needs more pop. Add straighter lines, more pointed shapes, to really give it that feeling of an explosion happening.

PsyFi - I like it. Very creative, and it works well visually.

Bug - Best Bug badge so far. Bug has so far been obscenely hard to make badges for, but I like the idea of a kabuto helmet combined with a beetle's carapace.

GraGho - Needs work. It's a little to light, in my opinion. Maybe make it a little bit more morbid, for instance by making the plant aspect more of an overgrowth rather than a happy little flower.

>>5999

All of these except grass/ghost are excellent.

>>5999

I can't really accept the dark badge. When people play the game, that's what they will see. They wont see it as interlocking question marks. they'll just see the balance badge.

The others are generally good though. The bug helmet is the best bug idea we've had imo.

>>6038

I really like the idea with this one but it doesn't look that "badgey" as it is right now.

>>6051

Your dark badge is the Relic badge from Sinnoh.

I don't really like the steel one visually, because somehow it's both too simple and noisy at the same time.

Ice and water are meh.

>>6052

Your psy/fi are probably the best I've seen yet. Top left or bottom right would have my vote. they really nicely combine the ideas in a simple geometric way. Well done.

Fire bug and gragho are meh.

>>6051

The dark badge is abstract but relevant, I really like it.

>>6056

your left badge has 15 shapes, rainbow badge has 13. Right is a possibility, but start with either taking out or enlarging some of the details. Taking out the entire eye socket would make it immediately more interesting than a perfect circle silhouette. I'm not saying throw it out, just play with it more.

>>6058

I think we're nearly there with these ones, just a few things a'la personal preference, making the badges fit together somewhat circularly and nitpicking.

>Ice

Make largest snowball larger so it's a smoother progression.

>Steel

I think the picks fit a bit better, and also make the whole shape fit a wedge.

>Water/Dark/Psyfi

Like em

>Fire

Don't like it

>Bug

Maybe make it slightly narrower just so it will fit the wedge shape a bit better.

>Gragho

I think I worked out why I have an issue with the design, it's the narrowness of the branches, maybe thicken them a bit and see hhow that goes.

>All

GOLD TRIIIIIIMMMMM

>>6057

>slug is shit at remembering his trip, please rape his face

>>6058

I'd ind of like the Gra/Gho badge to have the circular eyes from >>6056, though it doesn't need to have it's circular boarder (tough it will need a black backing around the eyes).

I like them all (though I do have individual faves from other sets. IMO if the badges don't interlock we should be able to pick whatever since they'll all be made into the same style later on).

We could also experiment putting gemstones in the badges? (Ice having an aquamarine in the bottom most snowball, fire having a topaz in the middle, etc).

>>6058

ice - bottom snowball needs to be bigger. otherwise, this looks solid to me. perhaps having the shape in the background be a trapezoid instead of a triangle would make it look more hill-like

steel - i like this better than the pickaxes, but something still seems off. is there any good way to incorporate molten steel into the badge since that's what the gym is all about?

water - this is well executed, however the reason i preferred the alt water pictured here >>5999 is because cameron is a researcher, so having a research sub like that would make more sense

dark - i am very put off by the fact that it's the only one in the set that isn't symmetrical. also i'm getting "bat wings" more than "cape," but that may just be the color

psyfi - great work

fire - this is really fantastic. we've been trying and trying for firework but i think going for sun is going to look a lot better, and this is great

bug - perfect

grass/ghost - i'm not feeling this badge at all. i don't think that either the skull or tree shapes are evident enough upon first glance. i don't like how this badge is so, for lack of a better word, flimsy compared to the full, meaty shapes of the rest of the badges. i also think the symbolism is a little off because the tree has bare branches, which doesn't typically connote life.

one way this badge could be improved is by straightening out the bottom instead of having it rounded, which would reinforce the skull teeth better as well as the tree roots

>>6058

You should post all the variants you made.

In any case, I do prefer the fire badge that was here >>5999, but I think a mix could work. I also prefer the steel badge shape there, but I think either could be simplified a bit. Not really satisfied with either of the dark badges. Lastly, I feel the concept of the ice badge s great bu the excution is a bit lacking, but i'lm gonna make a fix to that myself, i'd like to see the steel/dark/fire stuff be taken a crack at.

Overally, these (your image, all your varients, and >>5999 ) are still my favorite set of badges by FAR. If my issues can be corrected I probably won't even have to make my own of badges.

>>6058

overall really nice.

>ice

i agree with the others that the snowball transition is kinda off.

> steel

personally not in favor of. ill try making a new one later

>water

neutral. gonna try using my alt and see what happens

>dark

personally not in favor of, though the concept is solid

>psy/fi

i really thought this was gonna get bad reviews cuz i never really gave it much thought, but in retrospect i guess it was out of bad habit to think that way. the execution of the concept is great here

>fire

not in favor of

>bug

same impression when i came up with it

>ghost

the tree skull concept is great though i agree it does look kinda hollow

thanks for all the feedback btw. will be making some suggestions later

>>6093

Was my feedback I gave here: >>6069 detailed enough?

>>6095

>>6094

>>6093

Just realized I never explained what my problem with the dark badge is: It's not clear what it actually is, and I feel the color scheme should be black, red, and white.

>>6101

Me

>>6095

Looking at the colour selection, the Bug and GraGho badges are kinda close.

Would it look better if the Bug was a dusty red with a faint red/pink diamond in it? (orange bits could stay the same or be made pink).

Colours we have used: Lite Blue, Grey, Dark blue + yellow detail, purple, purple + orange, yellow + Orange, Light Green + orange, 2 shades of Green.

Colours we have not yet used: Red, Pink, Brown, Teal.

>>6093

holy moley that fancy psyfi is awesome

ice - trapezoid is much better than triangle, but i think the top could afford to be slightly narrower to make the hill seem larger

steel - well executed, but i'm still not sold on this hammer design overall

water - lights are a huge improvement (i prefer yellow over orange). i think this is looking a little busy with the multiple interior rings. i actually prefer slug's edit of water with the solid front color >>6098.

dark - outlining is an improvement, but i'm gonna keep complaining about it being the only asymmetrical badge, and not being obvious what it actually is.

psyfi - flawless

fire - i love this fire badge, but i'm thinking we should include some red in there somewhere. that's like the only color really missing from these badges

bug - i like the jewel, but i don't think the outlining of the jewel should join with the outline below it. there should be a gap below like there is on top (not sure how this will translate in sprite form)

grass/ghost - great, maybe make that interior vertical line a little thinner.

>>6101

i'm gonna say nay. i don't think it's really necessary to get the tree shape, and it looks like the skull has hair

>>6098

> it should be gold but that's besides the point

can someone do a mockup with gold outlines?

>>6104

new trip

>>6133

I like these better then the other steel badges in >>6095

>>6093 , but IMO it still could use some work.

>>6104

It would be nice if you made refined versions of all your badges. They look really messy right now.

>>6133

Please keep it to 3 edits per badge per person. Also, these could be used in Xenons badge set since they are the correct style or carson set. you decide please.

>>6135

Woops, meant to make this the best of. Just the two on the right for steel.

>>6138

That steel badge looks really cool, it's my favorite one so far.

Still not a fan of the dark badge. It'd try basing it on a jester, or perhaps the masks of Thalia and Melpomene. Maybe it could even be based on a Spade/Club/Diamond since Vivace is known for the casino, Shadini fights based on luck, and his sig is Howlequin. Another idea is to base it on a circus tent, I've seen one with that design before and I liked it. Also that means we can name it the Big Top Badge which just sounds so good.

Yeah, I do think the fire one is too busy. >>6058 is much better imo.

For the bug badge, try coloring it to match one of our bugs. Basilect or Mawasite maybe. Or look at Ento's art and try some of those colors.

>>6138

Oh, and I also like that Water badge much better.

>>6138

I do prefer the other colour schemes for the bug badge. Having 2 green on green badges seems too bland to me.

I don't feel that the fire badge is too busy. I actually think that the level of flare the badge has is representative of a firework, so its perfect.

On the other hand, i do feel that the bug badge with a gem on it is too busy. I find >>6137 and >>6098 ok, but here and above, the pincers/antennae are pushing too much in to the space where the gem is.

This one >>6138 with this bug badge >>6137 IMO.

The colors are all vastly different, and it's the best version so far.

>>6135

don't consider those as submissions. they were made to illustrate concepts i had, but were not intended to actually be surveyed

>>6137

this is my fav of the bug badges, nice

>>6133

i think far right is the best here personally

>>6138

i like the steel one a lot, i don't think it's too busy

fire i think is much too busy, and i prefer this version >>6098

bug, i prefer the colors and layout of the other one i quoted in this post

my single biggest problem is still dark though. i'll try to do some more brainstorming on that, but i'm going to continue harping on the fact that it's the only asymmetrical badge, so we should at least find a way to fix that even if we keep this general concept

>>6104

>>6133

>>6138

Okay so my biggest issue with these fire badge designs is the fact that it is based on a circle. In my current set of badges, 2 (fire and water) are loosly based on a circle. Now theoretically if we changed those other two badges it wouldn't be a problem, but my issue with the design extends be on that.

A well designed badge in my opinion involves an abstraction of a thematic element or idea relating each respective gym leader. But it is also a reflection of their ideals and personality.

Long story short, I dont think Stella is a circle. She is stubborn and strong and a more angular sturdy shape reflects these ideals much more prominently.

>>6138

I like this fire badge but it is a tad busy imo.

>>6137

I don't mind the changes to the bottom half, or the colors. But to me this looks more like a barbarian helmet with those horns. The old ones are much closer to representing a samurai helmet.

Anyway, I've read through a lot of ideas and feedback and Ill be making another round of revisions tomorrow.

>>6138

I think we got a near perfect batch of badges right here.

The new Steel badge is fantastic. Great job.

Whilst I too would prefer the jester mask design for the Dark badge, I don't mind the cape. It's good.

And I REALLY like the Fire badge. It has that "punch" I think other Fire badges lacked. Just simplify a couple of shapes, but keep the main idea intact.

>>6138

>>6167

>Long story short, I dont think Stella is a circle. She is stubborn and strong and a more angular sturdy shape reflects these ideals much more prominently.

what about something of a similar concept to xen's (gear with a forge in it), but instead it's an anvil with a forge in it? that's more angular but still relevant, although it would likely not be symmetrical, which bugs me a bit

>>6167

> The old ones are much closer to representing a samurai helmet.

The problem was they only looked like a helmet. It was a stretch to see a bug.

>>6178

While I prefer the fire badge from >>6138, as you've shown, it'd be a pain in the ass for the small scale sprite. (unless we do a case with a bigger view like in gen 4?)

Also, IMO, I still prefer this >>6138, bar some experimentation with the Steel Badge, using the red bug badge, and maybe making the center of the circle on the GraGho badge purple like you did (but keeping the silver "trunk").

The red dark badge looks too similar a shade to the beetle badge.

I can finally see the steel badge as forge instead of hammers. Maybe make the orange section bigger? Though I do like Xenon's molten cog thing, and experimenting with >>6133

>>6201

Love the new steel, and dark is a good departure. Though I think the bellballs are too small on dark, almost to the point would be better without. And I think it could use one more element, like if it could somehow have pointy teeth somewhere. Too tired to figure out where tho

keep up the good work

Oh, but I think the ghost needs that vertical line or the treetop just becomes a random dot

>>6201

The crown is much better then the cape, but I do prefer the Red/white/green color scheme, so i'd like to see it with that. I'd like to see even more shapes for it, though.

On a similar note, not fond of the red/salmon scheme for the bug badge. I'd try a dark teal/turquoise/emerald color along with salmon.

I prefer the shapes here >>6133 for steel, but what you have andd what >>6138 has are all way better then what we had before with the anvil/pickage shape

Could you try making a divers helmet badge for water? I think that could be just as good or better then what we have now.

As far as fiire, I prefer the one on the left, I also like the one here: >>6138

Still need to upload my ice suggestion.

>>6178

Keep in mind we can always have the badge screen set up in such a way that the badges can be as big or eveen bigger then pokemon sprites.

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Something we all need to think about is this: How are we going to coordinate submissions so we all aren't submitting the same shit? I think most of us agree queks/xenons set is best, but what indivual versions of each badge we all like I think differs, so we will all be submitting varients, I am guessing, but we need to make sure we aren't submitting the SAME variants, and what wiill be submitted for the base set.

>>6208

Shit, meant red white black, not red white green

>>6208

I'll just be collecting all the unique variants myself for the survey. I'm requiring you to outright say your submit designs. If you have a bunch, I'll take the most recent ones unless you say otherwise.

>>6210

fuck. I meant I'm NOT requiring you to outright say your submitting a design.

>>6210

>>6211

I'm confused, I thought we had a limit of 3 sets per person, and 3 variations per set, regardless of whose set it was?

How can we do that if you are compiling everything regardless? Please clarify sso I know how to handle my submissions

>>6251

Person X can make as many sets as they want so long as they're sufficiently different from each other. Anybody can make up to 3 edited versions of each of badge in each set. With that in mind, please state what set a badge is an edit for since lone badges aren't liable for surveying.

When the submission period is over, I'll be collecting all the edits made of badges in this thread for the survey. In the cwith the exception of badges people don't want to submit. In the case that a person has made more than 3 edits to the same badge, I'll ask the person what ones he wants to submit.

If people would prefer to submit formally thats fine too of course.

>>6253

Then I need to know:

Xenon, Queeks, what are you guys submitting? I need to know the exact set so I know what to submit for yours as variations

>>6201

ice

-design looks great

-color looks great

steel

-design is great, the angularity here and the fact that it looks like a hammer are better than the circular candy wrapper versions, although i might make the center a little bigger than the sides instead of the same size

-color looks great

water

-design still great

-color still great

dark

-fantastic design, echoing the desire for bigger bells. i don't think anything "darker" needs to be added as phenom suggested

-color is saying too "poison" for me. red/white/black seems like the obvious choice, but we've got a lot of red already. i'd honestly be fine with just white/black with yellow bells too

psyfi

-design still great

-color still great

fire

-design, i prefer the sun one, but of these two, i like the version on the left better

-color is great

bug

-i like the addition of the eyes, but depending on what size sprites we use, that might not be visible. also, even if the rest of the body and wings stays as-is, i much prefer the pincers in this version >>6137 over these teardrop/paisley shaped ones

-color could be changed. i know these are basilect colors, but we've already got a pretty warm pallet. i'd like to see a blue or green version, maybe light green/grey?

gragho

-agree with phenom about the vertical line helping with the treetop shape better, but that's also kind of based on sprite size that we decide on

-i don't have a preference on the color of the circle

>>5849

i'm thinking this gap between when we pick a winning set and when we start on minor changes would be a good time to decide things like how the badges will be displayed in-game, since that info will be helpful for deciding what kinds of details we want to add or remove

>>6201

I love these steel and dark badges.

>>6308

I like these a whole lot, especially the playing card feel they evoke.

>>6308

at least with the currently proposed sets, i think the top versions would fit in better

we can work that out in minor changes tho

>>6312

i could be interested in the jagged teeth element, but i don't understand the colors here, it makes it too busy. maj's with just red and black is my preference (black center, red had and rim)

>>6312

I think it looks too busy now.

>>6313

The yellow is the eyes. Its like a hat face thing, or at least tgats what I see.

>>6312

Whilst I adore this design, I'd have to agree with Leda and say that it's way too busy for spriting.

>>6312

I think that's too busy, but not because of sprites, again, we can have the sprites be super fucking big, if we design the badge display screen that way.

>In any case, if we do go with this, out of the two images here >>6201 we'll have to use the Fire Badge on the right. Otherwise we'll have 3 badges with red in them, which might be too much. (or the Fire Badge on the left has the red center changed to another color.)

Nah, We can keep the red for fire, we'll change the bug badge instead, everybody I have talked to agreed it's color scheme is bad anyways.

Also the cape is shit

>>6313

>>6315

>>6316

>>6317

So, (ignoring the eyes) the teeth don't work because it is lots of small details next to each other.

And then making the teeth larger would muddy it (instead of looking like a crown with teeth, looking like a crown on a bed of triangles).

I'm sure there is a way to make it look more dark-type like. Or maybe just throw on some playing card symbols since gambling vaguely ties to dark types (risk, luck, cheating).

>>6330

Perfect!!

The bug badge's shape is fine, but it might need to use the red colors from >>6201 (Not sure what colors the eyes should be if the body is red- orange like the inside of the wings/mandibles maybe?)

Snowball Badge, Forge Badge, Deep/Depth Badge, ???, Interrobang Badge, Blast/Boom Badge, Kabuto Badge, ???

Only names I'm not sure on are for Dark and GraGho. Kinda iffy on Psy/Fi as well.

> Dark

Grandeur Badge? Exalt Badge?

> Gra/Gho

Rebirth Badge? Tapho Badge (Taphonomy, study of decomposition)?

>>6330

Steel, i'd think the center hexagon should be bigger than the side trapezoids as opposed to the same height as them

Dark looks great - if it were black/purple instead of black/red, would that help with the 'dark' theme, or would it look to 'poison'?

Bug i like all the changes - color choice is good, pincers look great, eyes are clearer and more visible

GraGho i think the trunk looks better. for the color, though, i'd prefer more of a lush green. this is a little too mossy for my taste

>>6333

not sure about naming a badge Kabuto when there's a gf mon with that name, even though i know Kabuto has other meanings

also, i'm skeptical towards using Forge and Depth as badge names since we've already used those for the TM names

>>6334

I totally forgot about Kabuto/Forge/Depth! My bad. I guess Carapace wouldn't work either, being too close to the Cara- bugs?

Ok, Do over:

> Ice

Snowball/Avalanche Badge,

> Steel

Foundry/Alloy Badge,

> Water

Dive/Marine Badge,

> Dark

Grandeur/Exalt Badge,

> Psy/Fi

Interrobang/Balance Badge,

> Fire

Blast/Boom/Blaze/Flare Badge,

> Bug

Chitin/Beetle/Mandible Badge,

> Gra/Gho

Rebirth/Tapho/Renewal Badge

>>6330

These are really getting there. I love the Dark badge. I feel the old colors for the Bug badge were far better, you should use those. Everything else looks pretty good.

Also some shitty names that happen to start with "b" for fun:

>Blizzard Badge

>Blacksmith Badge

>Bathysphere Badge

>Big Top Badge

>Binary Badge

>Boom Badge

>Bushido Badge

>Boscage Badge

Yes, alliteration is my fetish.

>>6330

For the survey, can I request a version of this with the dark badge from >>6178 and >>6138?

I'm also gonna try and make a different colour bug badge frm >>6330

>>6383

Well the badges are all considered edits of the same set, so the survey has them all anyway.

>>6391

> Please just don't have it be the exact same one, the red/salmon scheme looked bad and it made red crowded when red is more important for dark and fire.

Ah, I was gonna put the old "dusty red" colour scheme onto the new badge shape.

But yeah, if that's crap I shant bother.

>>6391

far right green is best imo

>IMO, you should only survey stuff people specifically go "I am submitting this/these variants for X set"

i got messaged on skype directly asking if i wanted my images to count as a submission. i'm sure leda is competent enough to contact the people himself without you telling him to do so

>like 5 badges that all have the same colors and so on

the colors of the badges are essentially meaningless here, that can be changed in minor changes once we have agreed on a group of designs

>>6395

>the colors of the badges are essentially meaningless here, that can be changed in minor changes once we have agreed on a group of designs

But if a color scheme gets knocked out initially I would assume it wouldn't be allowed to be resubmitted as a minor change, and there's nothing preventing the problem from occurring during minor changes as well if they happen on a badge by badge case, not as a set.

>>6391

>>6396

It took me a minute to figure out what exactly you changed. Its so minute than I wouldn't even bother distinguishing between them. I'd accept a submission for green skull with purple circle for each of the rows, but nothing more.

Your concern for multiple badges being similar colors is valid, but the bug badge is kinda screwed anyway. Either its green, like the grass ghost one, or its red, like 2 of the fire ones or a few of the dark ones.

@ your concerns about the surveying process, rude. Also, whether they are submitted automatically, which they're not, edits are for badges within the same set only. Its up to the voters, not me, to consider how well the badges "synergize" and vote accordingly.

There is nothing stopping people bringing back older color schemes in following surveys. The final results will affect how people feel about each badge individually.

>>6401

> I'd accept a submission for green skull with purple circle for each of the rows, but nothing more.

Right, that's what I intended, just submit a single color depending on which nose shape wins, with color depending on what people told me now, though so far only Carson has given input…

It might have to wait till the feedback round, i'll get feedback then (We are still having a feedback round before voting, right?)

>There is nothing stopping people bringing back older color schemes in following surveys.

Okay, good, then there's no issue.

>>6441

significant improvement, these look really great! i would make the circle a little wider so that there's more of a gap between the nose and the tail, but otherwise i think these are all nice badges

>>6441

I need a bit of clarification, and a trips :^) that you do wan this to replace the older version as a submission. I don't think anyone will like the older one better. I was just comparing them side by side and yes, I think I prefer all the changes you've made.

Maybe one issue though, the dark badge is quite big now compared to the other badges, can you think of a decent way to deal with that and not make it stand out so much when they are separated?

>>6308

I'm asking people what badges they are wanting to submit and as you know, the rule is 3 edits per badge per person. I'm gona need you to decide what badges from this image you do want to submit. Honestly, I think you only need to submit 2 of them. The black and red saturation are going to be unimportant until minor changes and I'm allowing for people to propose older color schemes anyway.

>>6448

Well if you really think that no one is going to choose the other ones then I guess it can replace it. However, I'd like to at least get some confirmation on that. Also, remember that the earlier version has the nice border, so showing them both just so people could get an idea of the border could be a thing.

As for the Dark Badge, yes, I'm aware of that. Like I said it's was just a quick fix, so it's not exactly finalized. I could try and fix it up as well as doing the border if I have time.

>>6453

can you explain what this is? I have my own charts with badges and edits on it. None of that stuff takes gold and silver edges into account. I don't even know what your trying to show with the two sets on the right.

I'm only going to use the left column, just so the badges and the edits that have been made are consistent.

>>6455

the boxes separate the 4 sets of badges im submitting. inside each set are the badges and their edits beside them. you told me colors mattered so i made versions which have gold rims instead of silver, and then made two other sets that only use a gold and black scheme for elegance

>>6457

I did not consider the borders of the badges to be included in the badges color scheme. I won't stop you submitting them, but whether the badges were more suited to have silver or gold or some other kind of border, was something that was going to be decided separately. To that effect, the center left set would be considered the same as the far left one, and the edits proposed would be applicable to both.

>>6458

ah alright, then if everything on the right of the first column are eligible or more suited for the second round of surveying, then please count them as submissions for that survey if the first set wins

>>6453

>>6457

> two other sets that only use a gold and black scheme for elegance

that far right set is so fuckin cool

>>6464

I like these. It balances out the colors as well.

>>6453

Can we use gif's so that badges "glimmer" between the different shades?

>>6480

i don't think gifs work in game

>>6422

>(We are still having a feedback round before voting, right?)

I still want confirmation on this.

>>6481

Or whatever animation files it uses.

>>6501

>>6499

the octagonal bucket is a superior outline shape, but i don't like how small/thin the opening is in the bucket compared to the middle hexagonal shape

>>6501

The far left seems best IMO.

The middle's molten trail is too long.

And the far right one looks the most like a candy wrapper.

>>6499

No wonder you were taking so long to make badges. I don't know why you went to the trouble to model them, but its going overboard for just design surveys. I'll put >>6501 under you name in the surveys though.

>>6504

>>6501

whoops i'm dumb, the middle one here is the best. larger opening makes it more clear that it's a bucket

far right, i don't like the angled bucket as much

Chaos, Sketcher and Phananon need to check there PMs on Skype. i need to ask you about your badge set submissions and edits. If I don't get word from you, I'll still accept any edits, but some of your guys sets aren't ready enough to be used in the game until after someone has made game ready versions of the badges. I'd be unwilling to survey them unless you explicitly say you want to submit them.

>>6522

hesitant to have the outline be a color specific to the color scheme, since i don't think that outline would look good on all the other badges

>>6522

>>6524

Yeah, I didn't mean the outline.

That said, how would people feel if some badges had a gold outline and some had silver?

>>6527

I think they should be gold, or silver. Not a mix.

>>6528

nice

>>6536

Don't submit the first ice badge.

Bottom.

>>6536

Actually, leda, for the bug badges I am submitting as variations for xenons set, can you just ask "which color do you like best" for xenon's bug submsisions, since they only differ color wise anyways, and then as a follow up question, "Shape wise, which do you like best (the differences are X, Y and Z)?" between his default and my edits?

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That would avoid the whole problem.

>>6536

ice badge, don't submit 1.

bug badge, bottom, 2.

>>6536

Id say drop the 3rd ice badge.

The bottom row illustrates the edits better.

You don't HAVE to submit coloured, but I wouldn't expect people to vote based on shape alone. Colours just look better. The dark muddy blue in the ice badge doesn't look so hot though. Hopefully it gets improved after feedback.

>>6542

>You don't HAVE to submit coloured, but I wouldn't expect people to vote based on shape alone. Colours just look better. The dark muddy blue in the ice badge doesn't look so hot though. Hopefully it gets improved after feedback.

please for the love of all that is holy just do >>6538, I won't even beg/campaign for pre voting feedback round if you do that for me, I already have BW versions as well here >>6513

>>6541

drop 3

>>6536

bug badge 2nd line

>>6541

>>6536

Drop 2nd ice

Submit bottom row of bug

Slug, Phanomanon and sketcker need to confirm their submissions. I've messaged you on skype. either PM me, or just say here.

>>6538

The whole point of the system is to force you to submit the edits you like the most. You get 3 submissions. That should be enough by far.

Also, you're assuming your the only one that has made edits to xenons bug badges.

>>5801

>>6308

>>6501

>>6528

>>6536

>>6541

I need you to confirm what badges in images sets you would like to confirm.

>>6546

>Also, you're assuming that you're the only one that has made edits to xenons bug badges.

I suppose I am assuming that.

Anyways, I hope you are open to discussing this sorta again f the minor change stages forr how we can work out physical changes vs colors and avoiding tons of bullshit that's the same color once we get there, and that you post the survey preview for this before posting the working survey; We've had this planned 2 months in advance I really don't want this being a clusterfuck due to stubbornness in the end.

As far as what I am submitting, I am submitting the top row here >>6308 as dark badge variations, >>6501 as steel badge variations, >>6528 and the the right silver edged fire badge in >>6453 as firer badge variations, the 2nd and 4th ice badges in >>6541 as ice badge variations, an the bottom row in >>6536 as bug bage variations.

Obviously, that might overlap with what other people already submitted, in which case of course don't have the exact same thing listed twice, but as I don't know other people's selections (which is a huge flaw in this) I can't be sure and have to list al of that. For the bug badge, please detail that the changes between my bug badge submissions and with xenon's bug badge of the same color if it is selected by him is that is how smooth the edges of the exterior gren and interior red wing are diiffers. I think listing the differences between visually similar voting options is absolutely appropriate for the survey and we've done it for other surveys.

>>6546

>The whole point of the system is to force you to submit the edits you like the most. You get 3 submissions. That should be enough by far.

Also, I don't see how this has anything to do with what I asked. I did only submit what I like most, but what I lik has nothing to do with color, so t would only make sense to treat color and shape as separate categories so to speak so people are actually voting on what they like the best and not what they hate the least.

I don't see the benefit it not doing it.

>>6536

Ditch the last Ice badge.

Drop the middle Big badges.

Badge survey is live and closes Saturday 28th midnight EST

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/badgesfordays

>>6551

You forgot to ask for Skype Names.

I did the survey, yet it's letting me enter again (I recognise the first question).

IMO, if you have any issues:

Do a survey asking for usernames, then compare the IP address from that survey to the badge survey. Then, ditch the ones that don't match up. (any excess would be from IP scrambling entries)

>>6565

Its deliberate.

Xenon, so you know, I wanna speak to you sometime in the next 5-7 days

>>6565

it's a feedback survey, why would it be a problem if people gave feedback multiple times?

https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-FHWSHC7J/

Survey results are in. I'm going to give you guys a week to make changes based on the comments. Come that time, I'm going to be surveying the badges proper from the first time.

>>6592

> 6 votes

> 50/50 split on nose/no nose on GraGhost Badge

Disgusting.

>>6592

So 11:59 Post Meridian EST on the 5th of December?

>>6611

Wow, I really like these. They have a pretty consistent theme in shape and how they combine in the lock is interesting. Have a few qualms with some of the designs though.

A couple of them, I get what they are, but coul use a bit more to make it come across a bit better like the mountain cap and flippers. I feel the steel ones could maybe use something more as well to make them a bit more interesting.

I like the mask best for Dark. For Psy/fi I get that the the 4th one is supposed to be a yin/yang pience, but it's just too blank. don't reallt like the last three too much especially the last one.

I like both fire ones, but the second one might need thicker lines. I don't know what the bug one is supposed to be. Honeycomb? Spider Webs? For the Gra/Gho I can see the leaf, but I'm not really seeing where the ghost pat is coming in. Is it supposed to be an upside down ghost? Also I like the second one better.

Hey xenon did you ever make that thing?

>>6611

>>6611

these are all really swell

i think that 2nd ice one is the best, although if the 1st one had a more jagged bottom (like the 2nd one does), that would probably be my favorite

steel, i prefer the wrench over the gears sort of for the reasons described here >>6167

in keeping with Stella, though, i'd love to see an edit with a hammer in it instead of a wrench

i agree with brigand that the flippers/water could use more detail to make it clear what it is, but i like the flipper concept

dark, the mask is great - this might be the best dark badge so far

psyfi, i like all of these, and i actually think the simplicity of the center one is nice. best is probably the 5th one though

fire, both are great. i prefer the top one, but i think it could be improved by having another concentric outline of the explosion, if that makes sense? like right now, it's got the center spot and then the outline where it's orange, but i'd like if there was another outline in between in red or something? lemme know if this is unclear and i can try to draw it

bug, i think could use work. my guess is that it's the business end of a bug net, but without a handle, i don't think that comes across well

grass/ghost i like, but i think it could be improved by adding some more dead/ghostly color to it instead of having it be all green

>>6611

just so you know, we will be doing the final badge surveying in a few days and if you do want to put forward your badge set as a submission, we need you to follow a few rules.

It looks like your stuffs mostly fine, but you are limited to 3 edits plus the "original" for a total of 4 badges of each kind submitted. That means, you're going to need to decide which 4 or fewer psifi badges you would want submitted.

It would be great if you reply before the 6th, since that's the time when I'll be closing down submissions again and getting the survey ready.

>>6643

>>6640

Well shit, leda, obviously don't include the same submission twice.

You can ignore my lower saturation/larger bell dark badge, and my fire badge I guess, along with whatever duplicates exist for steel.

>>6644

Actually, since xenon has 4 fire badges, mine needs to be submitted as mine so all 4 can get in, same with the dupes of mine on his imagee.

>>6644

yea don't really know why xenon lifted your edit. guess he wanted to make sure it was included.

>>6645

Since he was the set creator, its fine. 3 are edits and 1 is the original.

>>2945

I didn't do any changes to these, since it seems like most people weren't going to like them anyways, but I might as well at least say what each badge is since people didn't seem to know.

>Ice

Igloo

>Steel

Anvil with a hammer on it

>Water

Wave

>Dark

A half closed eye

>Psy/Fi

! and ? crossed over each other

>Fire

A rocket shooting into the night sky with a smoke trail

>Bug

A beetle

>Gra/Gho

Skull with a leaf growing out of it.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/toomanybadges

The Badge survey is finally out.

The survey will end at 00:00 13th of December

>>6651

Marunos set is out of order, water and dark badges are swapped

>>6652

sadly I can't fix the question at this stage. I can only point out the error.

>>6746

Now we have badges, bumping names:

>>6337

Or is name thread for that?

>>6748

We need to wait for the badge runoffs.

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/badgerunoffsrgay

CLOSES THURSDAY 17TH, 00:00 EST

>>6746

the raw results link in this post has been deactivated. please use the following link:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-67X65BMJ/

Xenon, if you could message me sometime over the next 2-3 days i'd appreciate it.

>>6768

A few of these might already be suggested, they're mostly just brainstorming.

Ice: Snowball, Peak, Avalanche, Slope

Steel: Forge, Smelt, Mold

Water: Depth, Abyss, Dive

Dark: Motley, Jester, Trickster, Fool

PsyFi: Interrobang, Dual

Fire: Bang, Boom, Blast, Bomb, Sparkle

Bug: Chitin, Elytra, Mandible, Helmet

GraGho: Decay, Rebirth, Cycle,

>>6769

Additional (reposted my earlier stuff and removed what Mungo already mentioned):

> Steel

Foundry/Alloy Badge,

> Water

Marine Badge,

> Dark

Grandeur/Exalt Badge,

Balance Badge for Psy/Fi omitted as it's ORAS's normal badge.

> Fire

Blaze/Flare Badge,

> Bug

Beetle Badge,

> Gra/Gho

Tapho/Renewal Badge/Infinity

>>6768

Ice: Mountain, Summit, Snowfall, Peak, Slope, Avalanche

Steel: Ironworks, Foundry, Crucible, Forge

Water: Submarine, Abyss, Abyssal, Marine, Maritime, Naval, Nautical, Pelagic, Deep-Sea

Dark: Circus, Ringleader, Jester, Harlequin, Carny/Carnie

Psifi: Mind & Body, Duality

Fire: Explosion, Fireworks, Pyrotechnic, Gunpowder

Bug: Beetle, Armor, Helmet, Honor, Kabuto, Chitin

GraGho: Rebirth

The names are now locked in. They are:

Snowball Badge

Forge Badge

Depth Badge

Jester Badge

Duality Badge

Blast Badge

Beetle Badge

and Rebirth Badge